Bulletproof just shows up, starts talking trash behind everyone's back, calls Cecil racist, then acts like he is forced to be there. Dude has main character syndrome.
That line was really strange to me "sacrifices everything to save white America" huh? He was trying to save America and the rest of the world, would Bulletproof rather Cecil did nothing and let Omni-Man take over Earth? Did I miss some context to that line or something?
So they have the technology to feed the homeless , stop world hunger. But yet he only cares about the outside of America being destroyed. But doesn’t care about the inside . Which many black hero’s no about .
@@inlaidaniki2999 Shapesmith is the reason why Earth was endangered to begin with. Of course he isn't well liked by the team, I'd be shocked otherwise.
Maybe once. But they are growing. Many of them will never reach the same heights as the prior guardians. But they each have shown the will and fire to be better. even the JL and Avengers started off bad at one point.
@@shadowagent7361They did get "smoked" by one Viltrumite. But consider the context. That Viltrumite is one of the greatest warriors of his race. The Guardians trusted him, and he caught them by surprise. Even then, they beat him unconscious and put him in a hospital for days, even with his Viltrumite healing -- the worst beating he'd taken in all his years on Earth.
@@shadowagent7361 To be fair, not only did they still give Omni-Man a smackdown before dying, they could have won if Red Rush hadn't been taken out so early
Gotta love how Bulletproof is projecting HARD here “everyone is screwed up except me”. I really hope they tie this in to his backstory and what he does later; where he’s just this insanely insecure man who feels he isn’t up to the roles he gets thrust into.
He never said "except me," he said everyone is screwed up and we're not a good team. And he's kinda right, the guardians aren't that impressive compared to the last team.
@@radioraheem9820 I’m not saying he literally said it; or that he’s wrong. Honestly bullet proof hit the nail on the head dead center. I’m just saying that his behavior also comes off as that one guy who sees something cringey; then he turns to the one guy he sort of respects going “man, are these guys losers or what? Ha HA HA HAHA GLAD IM NOT A LOSER!!!” The kinda guy who needs to be above it all, Y’know?
Only difference is that none of it bleeds into his work. Sampon’s problems are more a joke, but every other problem presents a legitimate threat to the team
@@Mika-jd3zt lol wtf are you talking about 😂😂 every thing he said was on point except for when he said immortal is so old that he’s farting dust. What makes you think he’s trying to convince himself of anything when what he said is exactly what’s happening 😂 “just as much baggage as them” what has he done that shows that he’s slowing the team down. He is one of the only characters that isn’t slowing the team down and hasn’t done any weird stuff like Rudy
@@lukehall2255 I mean, Bulletproof did kill that sequid in the martian space station, which alerted all of the hive. And I don't know if you've read the comics or not, but assuming the show adapts his backstory, Bulletproof ain't got shXt to say about anyone, especially Robot.
Yea so annoying that they had to force that in. His agency is literally the GLOBAL defense agency and he's always reacting to threats all over the world
@@michaelb5119 The GDA that we see is populated almost exclusively by Americans. Its office is in the Pentagon. I'm guessing it's "global" in the sense that the Coalition forces in Iraq were global.
@kakroom3407 ok but they still protect the world. Cecil has never acted in the way that bulletproof is trying to potray them. Yea obviously it's an American agency and cecil himself is American, but let's stop pretending that line was put in for any reason other than for modern pandering. Literally rolled my eyes when he said it
Cecil gathered a force of heroes to stop a squid army that probably would've enslaved the entire world in the last episode. The Viltrumite army wants the entire planet, not just America. We even see the GDA stop a dragon that was attacking Italy in season 1. The "save white America" comment makes no sense.
How the hell can he have a billion dollar teleporter, kill satellites, and superheroes on call, but Flint Michigan hasn't had drinkable water since the original comic came out. When he save the "Entire World", you gotta put an asterisk next to it?
Exactly, the rest I get but that line comes out of no where. He could have just said something about not trusting the government, but what he said had no reasoning behind it.
@@furioussherman7265 After seeing so many other hero teams (Guardians, Justice League DCEU, and the Seven) the Avengers are really a great team for putting their differences aside and saving the world in ONE day lol
@@furioussherman7265 The Avengers at least already had the benefit of being experienced adults by the time their team came together. These guys here on the other hand are living proof of what happens any time you put a group of angsty-hormonal teenagers in an adult-focused job.
Samson wanted them to be better and mellowed out after he got his powers back, more so a drill sergeant than anything else. Bulletproof isn’t doing anything except pointing out their flaws.
@@VSaber365 SPOLIERS!!!!!!!! Bulletproof had a twin whose parents valued more than him. Siad twin kidnapped him and tried to experiment on him, only for Bulletproof to get powers and accidentally kill his brother and take his twin's identity.
@@emantelololololol9199 Wow. I've heard of the golden child, but the golden TWIN is more effed up, and it'll surely make way for extremely effed up stuff.
That line was so left field and unnecessary. These left wing writers cannot help themselves. They think because they went to college they are masters of the universe when it comes to social commentary.
Imagine what he would have said about Invincible and Eve if they were on the team "there's the girl with daddy issues and the guy with even bigger daddy issues who is very much vincible"
@@VSaber365 Bulletproof's brother wanted superpowers and was an identical twin in the comics. Essentially kidnapped, and drugged Bulletproof, but died in the process while giving Bulletproof superpowers. Not sure how, but the idea was if his genetic copy could take it, so could he. Bulletproof has since then, kept up the ruse of being his identical twin brother, until his parents eventually discover the truth and violently believe Bulletproof is the murderer of his own brother. Cause his brother was the 'favorite' child. This led to a fight, and accidents, and they covered the sin up by putting his mom and dad in a car and pushing it off a cliff; suggesting suicide instead.
@@dewolf123Bullet boy is both right and wrong, he has a point about this whole squad is half baked and is pretty bad from sheer conception alone. But him being overly cynical and pissy isn't helpful or needed as much like Sampson says he's still new and he doesn't get all of it.
They are the best of the best. The problem is, “of the best” means “what Omniman left behind. Even if they are superheroes who aren’t as powerful as these members, they must have less baggage.
@@IStevenSeagal lol u here in another comment acting stupid HAHAHA u really want to believe America is just white people only in order to justify this crap being in shows LOL
that might be the intention, as he was annoying in the comics. with him trying to get on Eve's pants after she got married to mark. hopefully in the later season's he get's bodied by the other heroes since in the comics he never got out.
@@DctctxI mean he has a point like if these are the guys who gonna be guarding The Earth I think we'd be better off with no team. So far Cecil has only two seasoned heroes and the rest of these guys don't have special training as they all learned on the fly. But like Sam said he doesn't get it yet so he'll learn soon.
Ohh Zandale you are one to talk about other heroes considering who you end up siding with in the future over your teammates. And Samson my man you continue to show how much of a potential leader you can be with all your years of experience from being an original Guardian.
Immortal was kind of a bad president for suspending habeas corpus. Actually him going off the chain really shows that he has that ol' Lincoln dawg in him.
@@Azraelseraphimconsidering the context, you cannot be serious in calling Lincoln a bad president lmao. No president was perfect but Lincoln was a saint compared to most.
@@cobraxist Well its a question of whether Lincoln cared if the slaves were freed or if he could use the freed blacks in his union armies. Plus suspending courts and due process is not great and that's something America could have lost permanently. Yes, slaves were freed but that doesn't make Lincoln less of an Authoritarian. I mean you might not care because as long as your boy gets what you want done then anything is acceptable - anything is permissible. Right? Consequences and implications whatever they may be are irrelevant, correct? Reality is a bitter pill.
Zandale Is talking alot about the struggle that the Guardians goes through. But he has a fair amount of skeletons In his closest as well given the "explicit" content he likes to view and how he likes to keep certain women "company." If you ykyk. 😉
@@strangerinastrangeland3613what bulletproof was saying how Cecil was looking to save “white” America, as if the man hasn’t actively been trying to save the whole world? Did that really need to spelled out? Judging by your profile pic, I’d say you need a lot of things explained to you.
Bulletproof is that guy on the team that says what nobody wants to hear but says anyway, because he's too full of himself to know when to keep his opinions and facts to himself.
From what I've gathered from his backstory he seems to be projecting some stuff towards the end. Not to say all of this is projection he just seems to be realizing this "team" is straight up dog water but towards the end he seems to be very cynical towards the idea of these guys being a family.
@@Grievous_Nix they didn’t make him say that to make him sound like a flawed character, they did it because of wokeness, the kind these screenwriters put into shows these days so blm types find other scumbags to relate to. Let’s be perfectly clear about the agenda here. They’ve already race swapped characters who were original white, like Rex Splode and Amber. They’re doing it for that ESG score. Typical bs
@@B.I.G.TEA707 yup. Just more woke bs so that the BLM supports have another racist to relate to. The invincible comics were changed quite a bit in the show adaptation, like Rex Splode and amber getting race swapped and the shrinking girl who’s name I’m forgetting was originally a guy.
The fact that just about every super-powered person in this series gets some spotlight and backstory, makes Invincible one of the best superhero shows. Sometimes you think they’re just generic characters for plot driving purposes, but they’re given so much more than that.
Y'all, Bulletproof's opinion on Cecil does not immediately mean it's what the show thinks. Bulletproof is a character, and characters can have opinions that don't line up with yours or all evidence.
Im not gonna lie he was wrong on shitting on everbidy like that but he was right about robot, what he did was just weird asf, I feel like robot should never have been leader and he should’ve never been the one to recruit people because let’s face it he was just being biased asf he literally only picked his old team and monster girl because he liked her.
Bulletproof talking mad shi for someone who cant think before he acts. He punched a sequid right after they were told the sequids are a hive mjnd species
Lmao, The Maulers are stronger than most of these Guardians. Cecil should just hire them. Better yet, Make a Thunderbolt/Task Force X team consisting of The Mauler Twins, Dark Wing 2 and all the previous GOTGlobe villains.
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyerdoubtful with Black liberals (honestly liberals in general) your race matters more b4 your ideals or character. Kinda crazy how we are reverting back to the old days.
@@B.I.G.TEA707 I know I shouldn't bother, it's pointless to get into this nightmare that is the RU-vid comment wars, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't lump all liberals, black or otherwise, into one big metaphorical tent together. It's a classic fallacy the human mind is all too prone to, but that doesn't change that it is a logical fallacy, and inherently inaccurate. TLDR: Please don't lump all liberals together. It's inaccurate.
At least shrinking Kate tried and besides she damn lucky to survive being crushed I mean Komodo is big and his inside are probably super durable But bulletproof has that swagger that on his head that says “I’m better than everyone in this room” and he probably has skeletons in his closet His ego is what makes him too cocky to admit what he’s done And bulletproof and atrain would make fine friends
Was with ya until the "white America" line. Cecil isn't racist. Cecil may do some shady s*** here and there but he's kind of like a Nick Fury he ultimately cares about saving everyone on the planet it's just sometimes he goes to extreme lengths to do it but I never once thought oh he's only trying to help white people in America or America in general he protects the planet and its people. Cecils a lot of things but bigoted it isn't one of them. That line just seemed to come out of nowhere and i am really getting tired of jabs at white people with this anti-white rhetoric thats been going around. Racism in general is stupid no matter who's doing it and everyone's capable of doing it. But the only person who should care about race is a racist
He wasn't calling Cecil racist, The term White America means America's high-class citizens, Places and public image, He's essentially critiziting how cecil only shows up when the country is physically in danger and not when its socially and economically in danger.
@@makislay8678 just me assuming since there was a ethnic descriptor in the term. But yeah Cecil isn't perfect and neither was Nick fury. I would just say corporate America or high class America.
@@isaiahhellems7901 Yeah I would have too since it's an old phrase. Writer probably 50+ and didn't know nobody calls corporate America by that term anymore.
@@makislay8678yeaaaaah unfortunately saying "white America" has connotations these days that does NOT relate to simply the high class. And worse, if that's what he was going for, he's STILL wrong. Cecil gives absolutely zero fucks about the rich and powerful, just like he gives zero fucks about race or gender or background. The dude casually burns the upper crusts funds teleporting a couple yards away just because. Cecil has always and will always care only about making sure humanity doesn't die at any cost. Bulletproof didn't have a good point no matter how you slice it.
The fact that most of the old and new guardians are poc makes Zandales statement even funnier. Aquarus was a fish, Omni-man was an alien, and Immortal probably did more for race relations than anyone else in history.
@@Avenus112Cecil *IS* protecting a country who was build on the bones of the natives, founded by their gen*cide. And let's not forget that segregation hasn't been a thing for less than a century.
Always gotta throw that racial jab in there somewhere... I'd like to find one show somewhere with black folk in it, where they don't take a pot shot at white folks someday.
@@hasturthekinginyellow5003womp womp literally every year black people are coming to America because their own countries are shitholes. Nobody wants to live in Haiti but everyone wants to go live in America
He's not the writer's moutpiece. He's, and I'm not being hyperbolic here, a delusional psychotic. Who is enjoying a period of relative calm before diving back into the deep end.
Bulletproof is slightly and crucially wrong about _everybody_ he talks about. The Immortal is an _excellent_ leader. Rudy is still finding is humanity (and holy future is it good that he's even trying) Monster Girl is suicidal, yes, but she's literally saving the world here as the group's tank. Rex is growing up fast, and still gloriously stubborn. Rae is slightly out of her depth, but this is what she wants to do. Shapesmith is horribly selfish. Isn't that human? He sure thinks so. And Samson used to have hair. ...and Bulletproof himself isn't as done with pretending as he thinks he is.
His argument is based on very specific circumstances (mentioning only their shortcomings) While at the same time excluding all the good things that they have done.
