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Burning Alcohol in the 20 Dollar eBay Stainless Steel Wood Gas Stove. 

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Check out the second test with internal cup upside down. • Multi Fuel Testing of ... Several people asked what the little metal tray/dish that comes with the 20 dollar eBay Wood Gas stove does. I really didn't know but others said it holds either alcohol or Esbit type fuel tabs. Another person asked if it would work with a Traingia burner. I tested both the metal try and Traingia burner using denatured alcohol for the first time. The burner worked well however the metal try not as god though this wasn't a scientific test and it was done during a snow storm.

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@uspcompact4599
@uspcompact4599 7 лет назад
Brother...flip the inside piece that you put the bowl on. That piece can either be put in the way you did for wood or flipped to raise the fire. That brings the bowl up higher and closer to the bottom of your tea pot.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I sure will give that a try next time. It was my first go with alcohol and this stove.Thanks for the advice and comment!
@uspcompact4599
@uspcompact4599 7 лет назад
My pleasure my friend....thanks for the vids...keep em coming!
@bearmerica6668
@bearmerica6668 6 лет назад
Thanks for being out there in the NE woods in winter. I remember how it was brutal for me.
@rasputin0452
@rasputin0452 6 лет назад
I concur with USPC
@tedc3895
@tedc3895 6 лет назад
• USPCompact45 • he is a dumb ass.
@BingWatcher
@BingWatcher 7 лет назад
Greetings MW, it's much appreciated by me for your running this comparison with using alcohol. Isn't just amazingly hard to believe that there are other grown men watching another grown man boil water, all this on a Saturday night? And I am really glad to watch it. Thank You for your help today and for your great video.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
LOL! I hear that. It's fun for sure and thanks for watching!
@RedArrowTinker
@RedArrowTinker 7 лет назад
Thanks for taking us along on your hike. It was beautiful out there! That's a nice little stove. Seems to be a clone of the SilverFire Scout stove, at a much more reasonable price. I made my alcohol burner stove following the "Fancy Feast" pattern on a RU-vid video, and made a windscreen for it out of two beer cans. It works really well. Not as hardy or as heavy as yours, though. I'm looking forward to seeing how the tabs work. I've never tried them.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I made a Pepsi can and V8 can double walled stoves. They're fun to make! Thanks for watching!
@gonagain
@gonagain 6 лет назад
I have a warning for you. I did the exact same setup using the Trangia that you did, but on a hot day. After a minute or so the gasification process kicked in and the stove took off like a jet engine, burning up all the alcohol in about a minute and creating a very dangerous situation. I suppose that didn't happen to you because it was much cooler weather.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 6 лет назад
I had alky stoves do that before. If it's hot they can boil over and take off. More so fit their is a wind screen etc near the stove. Thanks for watching!
@bonibbly3057
@bonibbly3057 7 лет назад
Always learn something from you in a no pretense way. Awesome little burner with the pellets too.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Burned wood pellets great! Thanks for watching.
@dsmith3239
@dsmith3239 7 лет назад
Hello there, Just wanted to send a quick message to say I have really enjoyed watching your videos. Pretty much very down-to-earth, realistic, and what the average guy like myself can enjoy. Always look forward to the "sacred bacon." Usually, I use the sacred bacon as a form or grease on the cast iron fry pan when cooking some tasty moose steaks or sausages in the woods. Nothing outs a better taste on woods cooking than bacon. Looking forward to more interesting videos of your adventures. All the best.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment!
@Cheeso99
@Cheeso99 7 лет назад
Hi Woodswalker, great Video. I like your happy attitude. In the cold Trangia burners need some drops of Alcohol spilled on top of the side rim or body. Thus it will heat up the alcohol inside a little bit. It helps starting the alcohol to vapourize out of the jet holes. An additional windshield helps to reduce the amount of alcohol needed for each boil a lot. Especially under those windy circumstances. As being said, the middle part of the Lixada stove needs to be put upside down to have that sweet spot if one inch for the trangia. Try the Fancy Feast Stove by Hiram Cook. It is much more fuel efficient than the Trangia stoves. And it is a stove stand on its own. so you can reduce kit weight through using a pot, a windshield and the burner only. Greetings from Germany! Stefan
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Going to try that next burn. I made DIY double walled Pepsi can stoves which also work good. Once made a cat stove. It was ok but like the jets from the Pepsi can. Thanks for watching!
@robertbabula7632
@robertbabula7632 7 лет назад
I just purchased one of these. The instructions say to flip the little insert upside down so the alcohol cup is closer to the top. I haven't tried alcohol yet, but flipping the insert upside down works perfectly! :) The design is great! The burn of the alcohol will be a lot more efficient.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Mine didn't come with instructions but I tested that out in another video as others gave me the same advice and it seemed to work better. Here is the video and thanks for watching! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rv89RJWe32U.html
@robertbabula7632
@robertbabula7632 7 лет назад
Thanks! :)
@steveneugene339
@steveneugene339 4 года назад
Love your approach , enjoyed .
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 4 года назад
Thanks!
@faithrada
@faithrada 7 лет назад
Great Test , most helpful. I love my Trangia but just ordered one of these wood gassifier stoves. Always looking for dual usage stuff where I can. We got plenty of sticks here in New England... but they aren't always dry. I think I'll invest in a few wood pellets too. Watch out for those Turkeys!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for the comments and watching!
@TheGhungFu
@TheGhungFu 5 лет назад
A little alcohol stove is a must-have accessory for the wood gas stove. Lets you make a quick cup of tea/coffee/hot meal or sterilize water without building a wood fire. Flipping the inside basket, as others have mentioned, gives you a bit of heat control. Some things cook better on lower heat (like eggs), and some alcohol burners work better closer or farther from the pot bottom. You can also flip the alcohol/solid fuel cup over to adjust you burn height, I've built a number of beer can stoves and use two just for my wood gas stove. One burns hotter with a shorter burn time, about 18 minutes, and one burns a bit cooler but has a 30+ minute burn time; good for simmering or keeping the coffee hot. I set the alcohol burners in the little cup that came with the stove to use as a priming cup. All-in-all, a great system; very versatile. Thanks for all of your video's,,, and KEEP THE BACON SACRED!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@mildcamper5429
@mildcamper5429 6 лет назад
The boil time takes a little getting used to compared to gas canisters (being pressurised systems of course), but I really like the silence of alcohol burning and what's the rush anyway? Always strive to be in your limits.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 6 лет назад
I like alky stoves for many things. The primary exception being melting snow. For that it's white gas or wood. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J1HSWLX1vIs.html thanks for watching!!!
@EvansExplorations
@EvansExplorations 7 лет назад
+1 in flipping the solid fuel dish inside the stove to raise the trangia. It'd probably boil like a mad man then. I think for solid fuel I've seen the stove set up as normal. The dish goes on top sort of covering or filling the hole the wood would be in. This puts the fuel tab just a little below the pot. Similar to the set up catering companies use.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
The Traingia worked great but the dish not so much so will do a video comparing the tabs/sterno/alky/wood. Will flip the parts for sure. Thanks brother!
@ScanMan1967
@ScanMan1967 7 лет назад
I don't know if anyone has pointed out yet but you're supposed to turn the internal burn pan upside down and then lay the fuel cup on top of that. That puts the flame right on the kettle.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Yup some did and next time will try that. Thanks for posting the advice and watching!
@Tailslol
@Tailslol 6 лет назад
the double wall is very bad for other fuel than wood and so you have to remove it... the lil bowl is mostly for gel and esbit. you can put the wood tray upside down too.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 6 лет назад
I did a second video and had better results with Alk with the wood try upside down using the dish. Thanks for watching! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rv89RJWe32U.html
@TheSimplecanadian
@TheSimplecanadian 7 лет назад
I've nver actually used the boil method of treating water I usually use the gravity filter platypus or the katadyn hiker pro hand pump. Good to know that not even boiling water and you have been ok. I will play it safe and boil for 10min when I try it. Thanks for the video!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I normally use a Sawyer squeeze but not during the winter. Can't hardly ever go wrong playing it safe so boil away! Thanks for watching!
@timboehlke1227
@timboehlke1227 7 лет назад
seems to use a larger volume of fuel compared to gas, but ease of use makes a good back up
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Alcohol has less BTU I think. White gas is my preferred winter stove other than wood. Thanks for watching.
@JohntheBeastisthebeast
@JohntheBeastisthebeast 7 лет назад
Awesome channel! subbed! Great video MegaWoodStalker!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks. I appreciate it!
@Adventure_Coffey
@Adventure_Coffey 7 лет назад
I'd say the plate is for solid fuel or possibly even a Gel fuel.. you can also take the Thor lid off your stove put it right in the ground and put the alcohol fuel in the cup. You wouldn't need the body at all. Just a way to support your kettle over the pot. You should give it a go. I've been know to play around with stoves a little.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Playing around with stoves is fun and thought about the same thing when doing the test. Thanks for watching!
@67wing
@67wing 7 лет назад
I have the same stove but it didn't come with the tray, which I think is an ember catcher. I always enjoy your videos
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@overweighthikerwannabe901
@overweighthikerwannabe901 2 года назад
Sorry if someone already suggested this, I haven't read all the comments, but I'd have found something like an upside-down empty can of some sort as a platform for the stove to raise it hire in the burn chamber of the gasifier stove. I think I've heard its best to have a smaller gap between the alcohol stove and the pot for best fuel efficiency. Though I guess it works fine the way you did it with the trangia.
@63viet
@63viet 7 лет назад
Great video. Where did you buy your big military burner? I have been looking for one for a long time.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I don't remember as had them for maybe 15 years. They're really good but dang I don't remember. Sorry brother.
@perunut4656
@perunut4656 2 года назад
So which is quicker? Using alcohol (once correctly set up) or wood? I'm guessing alcohol will be a lot less messy.
@Ratchety
@Ratchety 7 лет назад
I wonder if that bowl fits and sits in the top of the stove? then you would be nice and close to the pot stands for tablet use...less wind protection, but just a thought.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Might try that as well! Thanks for watching.
@antoniol3271
@antoniol3271 5 лет назад
@@MegaWoodswalker He's right. Taking the insert were the wood burn's & inverting it so the alcohol is raised higher. When you use alcohol, how high was the flame to the pan.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
@@antoniol3271 I did another video testing that out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rv89RJWe32U.html seemed to work better. Thanks for watching!
@antoniol3271
@antoniol3271 5 лет назад
@@MegaWoodswalker Thank You For The Reply I Watch Your Other Video Thank You
@linklesstennessee2078
@linklesstennessee2078 7 лет назад
Good test walker I have only used in solo stove and firebox
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I also have a solo stove and Firebox. You have good taste in stove brother.
@Creativecavemanagain
@Creativecavemanagain 7 лет назад
Got mine and it said right in the instruction papers that the mystery bowl is for alcohol. If in doubt, try reading the instructions. The burner basket in the bottom goes in upside down, so the alcohol is closer to the bottom of the pot. _______________________________________ Don't seem to be able to reply t your reply. Missing instructions and stuff happen, it's unfortunate. Like the videos. Always cheerful :)
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Sadly mine didn't come with instructions. Thanks for watching!
@jodyGOMERbutler
@jodyGOMERbutler 7 лет назад
what about putting triangia burner on the plate that you but just the alcohol in raise it up to burn hotter
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Will give that a go in the as well. Thanks for the comment.
@pyromaniac1491
@pyromaniac1491 7 лет назад
Always a joy watching. I love. Twig stoves like you but alcohol or white gas has its place.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I know you're big into twig stoves. I like um all!
@drewlucero3916
@drewlucero3916 7 лет назад
Nice test thanks for taking the time to do it 🔥 bacon 🥓 would have been a true test hahaha till next time have a great day 🔥🔥
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Next test I am sooooo bringing the bacon! Right on brother!
@cillaloves2fish688
@cillaloves2fish688 7 лет назад
Ha! I saw the other vid after this one first! Glad u know how to use the lil bowl now!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Yup. The community gave me some good advise on that! Thanks for watching!
@Terry14.88
@Terry14.88 7 лет назад
I allways have the same problem lighting the trangia in the cold . it's a great little stove, just need to remember to cary a lighter.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I am a BIG fan of the Bic. Just warm it in my hands and they're good to go! Thanks for watching!
@jasondundom1390
@jasondundom1390 4 года назад
The Trangia will always out perform any bowl because it's able to preheat and somewhat pressurizes the alcohol as it heats up.. and your bowl was set way to low.
@rickmiller8931
@rickmiller8931 7 лет назад
I have this stove mine has a defiant pot stand tho the bowl will set just below the pot stand in the opening
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for posting!
@zero00tolerance
@zero00tolerance 7 лет назад
Hello mate another great fun video can you please do a video comparing the Traingia military and civilian ones. Thanks keep up the good work !
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I will in the future! Thanks for watching!
@whoofit
@whoofit 7 лет назад
My cheapo stove is the Famely. Very similar to yours. In the instructions (amazing, right?) it says the bowl is for solid alcohol fuel. I don't use solid fuel so I can't suggest it or not.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
You got instructions? Dang. I didn't but came with a nice stuff sack. I do have some Esbit tablets. I should try those as well but might flip the inside piece like Brother Alex suggests. Thanks for watching!
@whoofit
@whoofit 7 лет назад
Yes, it says to flip the burn chamber like that. Happy testing and trails.
@gunnerair9375
@gunnerair9375 4 года назад
Flip the ash pan and use HEET for fuel works great with the Trangia
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning 7 лет назад
Wild turkeys forage for acorns in the snow. Winter time it takes much longer to get liquid to a boil. You will need at least double that amount of alcohol for that amount of water. In warm weather it takes 1 ounce for 1 cup of water. So in winter it is going to take much more and longer time.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching.
@trident88596
@trident88596 7 лет назад
Good test!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching.
@MrWmburr7
@MrWmburr7 7 лет назад
You have to get the alcohol dish within about an inch of the bottom of the pot for maximum efficiency. Same for the Trangia burner. You accomplish this by flipping the burn chamber upside down inside the double wall ring. It will then be at the optimal height.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I am going to try that next time. Thank for watching!
@redsorgum
@redsorgum 7 лет назад
If you are going to try a sterno can, put it on top of the little tray, not using it, may put the sterno flame to low.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I wonder what the ideal high for sterno is. Will have to see what combo looks good. Will try your idea as well. Thanks for watching !
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 7 лет назад
Nice video buddy
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching. Subbed your channel!
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 7 лет назад
thanks buddy
@59chevt
@59chevt 6 лет назад
Fun vid thanks.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 6 лет назад
Thanks again for watching!
@thecow123xxx
@thecow123xxx 7 лет назад
10/10, would invite the Walker to dinner
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching!!!
@Radoslaw731
@Radoslaw731 Год назад
Trangia is a great burner because its brass and it's Swedish 😊
@slickmouf879
@slickmouf879 5 лет назад
You have to flip the coal holder in the bottom upside down to make the alcohol pan closer to top. Try it it was in the description pictures on the one that I bought on Amazon so if I hadn't have seen those pictures I would have never figured it out myself. If the flame would have been closer to your pot of boiling water it would have been boiling halfway through the denatured alcohol burning out.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
I never got instructions with mine but based on people's comments I did a redo. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rv89RJWe32U.html
@RVBob
@RVBob 7 лет назад
Does a can of sterno fit?
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Don't know but will try that next along with the tabs.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
I purchased some Sterno smaller cans and they fit. I didn't buy the larger ones but think those are also a go! Will test the smaller ones for the next stove video.
@RVBob
@RVBob 7 лет назад
MegaWoodswalker I love sterno. You can poke some small sticks in it to get them jelled and they take a spark easy to get your fire started. I'm curious if it has the BTU's to boil water in your stove.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Got some gas so will test that along with the Esbit and alky (with inner part upside down). Thanks for watching!
@johnhoward7298
@johnhoward7298 9 месяцев назад
Looks like it's a little far from the bottom of the pot
@kennethwilson8633
@kennethwilson8633 Год назад
Love your videos what happened to you hope you are doing well.
@tjmatthews7474
@tjmatthews7474 10 месяцев назад
He passed away about 3 years ago.
@jameslane9918
@jameslane9918 7 лет назад
yeah I'll get up go to pick me up one of those military alcohol stoves at Mickey's Surplus pretty big store Jim always your friend Kansas City Missouri
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 7 лет назад
Those are great. Get one!
@geraldross5180
@geraldross5180 5 лет назад
Try wood pellets they work good .
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
Yes did a video on that as well. Worked great!
@aaronliu9945
@aaronliu9945 5 лет назад
I laugh at people who say you need to let water boil for 10 minutes. Water borne disease causing parasites and bacteria are rapidly killed in water at 140F, most viruses at 150F. By the time your water hits a boil it's at 212F and has spent a few minutes at and above the temp required for pasteurization. Really the only reason to hit a boil is for a visual indication that your water has reached a certain temp, since most people don't carry kitchen thermometers in their packs. At 10K ft the boiling point is 192F (and lower as you go higher) so to be very safe you might want to leave the water boiling for a minute but any longer than that is just wasting fuel.
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
Yes. About 156 F just about everything dies which could hurt someone drinking water. I think there is a wax thing in a little container which melts once something is within the pasteurization zone. I was going to get one for my solar over. Thanks for watching!
@aaronliu9945
@aaronliu9945 5 лет назад
@@MegaWoodswalker never seen that thanks for mentioning it. Great videos by the way, keep em coming!!
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
Here it is. I reviewed the stove and remember they had it. www.sunflair.net/product/wapi-water-pasteurization-indicator/
@margaretadler6162
@margaretadler6162 3 года назад
If you get rolling boil your water is purified.
@aprillecoore7264
@aprillecoore7264 5 лет назад
That bowl doesn't even come with that stove, it's for the liaxada folding pocket stove
@MegaWoodswalker
@MegaWoodswalker 5 лет назад
No. I got it with the stove. I also got the same bowl for the folding stove as well. You can see the metal bowl in multiple listings for the wood gas stove. Take a look. www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Wood-Gas-Burner-Backpacking-Camping-Picnic-Party-Alcohol-BBQ-Stove/253583635423?hash=item3b0ac333df:g:iFgAAOSw9uNa4EZV
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