He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
@janecialalumeia8694 New Yorkers, the birth place of Hip Hop created Jamaicans, but here you are hating. I bet you're not even a true AA yet alone a NYer... stay hating🤡
This is true my mother who is Jamaican used to live in the Bronx. I am from the Bay Area in Northern California Kool Herc came to my hometown of San Francisco in 2005.
???? Who you think discovered Hip Hop?? Jamaicans created that shit, Hip Hop is the son of Reggae, it comes after reggae. People aren't too educated that Reggae is the biggest BLACK made genre in the world!
@@northside3701 Wrong. Herc wasn't playing Reggae or Dancehall at his parties.. he was playing FUNK and SOUL records. He's stated this himself.. Black Americans were not into Reggae like that back then..
He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
Jamaican Americans like Busta, Cool Herc, Biggie,Grandmaster Flash, Pete Rock, Chubb Rock, Slick Rick, Dougie Fresh, Pop Smoke, Chris Lightly, Aaliyah, Alicia Keys invented different styles and contributed a lot to hip hop
How is Dancehall the foundation of HipHop when the foundation of HipHop started in the late 1960’s, early 70’s? And the foundation for Dancehall began in the late 70’s and really didn’t take off until 1982🤦🏾♀️. The entire influence of Jamaican music is Black American music/culture. People need to pick up a book and do some research 🤦🏾♀️
I Was Born In Brooklyn And If you not influenced by Dancehall Music 🇯🇲 Something Wrong. Plus if you don’t know who Busta Rhymes is Something Definitely Wrong!!!!!!!
He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
1st dancehall came after hip hop n was influenced by hip hop...2nd black americans heavily influenced jamaican music culture ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uZpnImZuqh4.html
Ska, Reggae, Rock Steady and Dancehall ALL came from Jamaicans emulating FBA musical genres like r & b/soul, jazz and blues. Our music pre-dates theirs by decades. The only music genre Jamaicans created that wasn't influenced by FBA'S was something called Mento. Every other form of music they created was copied from our music. There were two FBA radio stations in Florida Caribbean countries were listening to get their inspiration and influences from. WEDR in Miami and WRBD in Fort Lauderdale. They picked up our radio signals and had listening to us for decades. We weren't influenced by them at all. They didn't have signals that reached us, we didn't buy any of their music, we didn't attend any of their concerts but the did all of those things when it came to us. Until Bob Marley came along I'd be willing to bet 99% of FBA'S couldn't have named one Jamaican artist if their life depended on it.
Bitch, we are foundational black Americans too. The Caribbean is in North America. Jamaicans have been coming back and forth the the USA for 200 years now. We influenced the music here through New Orleans where a lot of us immigrated too in the 1800s.
@BennyNegroFromQueens Y'all didn't have nothing fkn close to rap until we introduced Y'all asses to it. All of Y'all music came from copying us. Show me something from the 40s even close to what we were doing in this country. The first guy to do toasting in Jamaica was Clement Dodd in the late 50s and he admits he got it from Americans when he came here to work in the sugar cane fields in the mid 1950s. He said he taught it to Count Machuki and others who he came back to your country.
@BennyNegroFromQueens Ain't a damn thing foundational about Y'all in the United States. Yes, you were in the Americas but Y'all damn sure didn't influence our music. Blues, jazz and r & b influenced everything your people did. You didn't have an international artist until the early 70s with Marley so how in the hell did Y'all influence us. Hell Y'all didn't even get you fkn 1st radio station until the mid 50s and the signal wasn't strong enough to reach the other side of your island. All of the music you brag wasn't invented until the 60s so how again could you have taught us anything when most of our started in the early 1900s? We had hundreds of international stars 40 years before yall had your first one. If you had asked an FBA to name a Jamaican singer in the mid 60s they couldn't to save their fkn lives because there were none.
Look up Saxon sound system from out of London, Uk. The fast style was originated in 1983 by Peter King. Then Papa Levi, Tippa Irie and the rest of the Saxon crew took it to another level
He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
@Tony G I have no problem with that , I am just making sure that I point the people to the real origins so that they can know the true history of speed rap/ deejaying. Blessings for the input.
Rappers use Levi's pattern for "Cap a no buckers and buckers no cap," all the time and most don't even know where the pattern originates from. Any time I hear it used I laugh as I know they don't know.
Busta lying his ass off. All Jamaican music came from they copying American music. The only music Jamaicans invented that didn't rely on Black American music was something called Mento. I even put a link to a video below that has Jamaican founders and inventors of Ska, Reggae and Rock Steady all saying exactly what I'm saying here. Mr. Clement Dodd the founder of toasting and sound systems in Jamaica admits where he got it all from. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C3bykCL3PM8.html
NEW YORK STAND UP!!! One thing I LOVE about Y'all is the rich diversity and the credit y'all give...If you're not from the birth place of Hip Hop hush! They big up Jamaica, and they are who matter when it comes to hip-hop truth👐🏿
James you are incorrect. These are rap songs over50 to 100 years old not by dancehall. This is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
@@massdisruption3437 Thank you so much for voicing this. Unfortunately, most, won’t even bother to research the history of their so called “beloved” genres (of anything for that matter), and will instead jump on the first “glorified” opinion, that matches their outlook despite fact staring them directly in the face.
Yes Freddie from outra youthman promotion sound, came england with them in 86.... he most likely was influenced by San, stitichie came a little after san, san himself listen to and respected the mcs on saxon sound London who were well practiced in the syle , papa levis mi god mi king was the first time i think a london mc brought the style to the world, he was influenced by Saxon mc Peter king. Who is regarded as the fast style originator.. Bless up
@@djbarbergreen3388 correct....first time jcans in Ja heard speed rapping was mi God mi king.when David Rodigan slew Barry G with it on radio lol...within 2 weeks Papa San dropped a tune name Animal Style...San never looked back ...I think if San and Stitchie was interested they would beat Daddy Freddie...I heard them on a calypso beat with the turntable up at 78....
Twista came out in 1991 after Busta and Jay. Never really knew where he got the inspiration from tho. shit makes a lot of sense now, they were all influenced by Jamaican artists
Lol we was thru with it before you knew what to do with it. Check the swag on both those songs. 1936 and 1968. Imitators can’t be greater. This is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
@@massdisruption3437 hip hop is defined by it's catchy beats and rythmic rapping. The second video i can see; but the first one, no. The title said influence. The pioneers of what we call hip hop are all carribean. Dj kool herc is a jamaican immigrant, afrika bambata has jamaican parents and grandmaster flash said his father used to collect carribean records which made him want to dj. These can't just be a coincidence. There might be remnants of rapping before hiphop; but the actual genre might not exist without jamaicans. First it was battle rap; but the mentioned pioneers brought it to records with the energy of the danchall artists they saw. Dance hall has been in existence since the late 60's and reggae even earlier. I know you noticed how dancehall and rap sound like cousins.
@@gmasters2 none of those so called pioneers you listed predate disco king Mario, grandmaster flowers, dj Hollywood, Pete dj jokes, Kool dj dee, Tyrone the mixologist, etc. all of them influenced the dudes you named. All of them. Battle rapping comes from no culture of Jamaica. That comes from doing the dozens. It was a game. Look up what the dozens are. I also find no evidence that dancehall existed prior to -975 but hip hop origins began in the late 60s but the factors that led up to it began as early as the 1890s as hip hop is nothing more than an amalgamation of Older black American culture.
If I remember right, it was a Jamaican electrical engineer who pioneered the cross fader used in pretty much every DJ mixer sold today. It wasn't just hip hop that was influenced by Caribbean music either, I've worked in studios recording punk where an engineer fed the output of a delay unit back into its input. A sound that is instantly recognisable in King Tubby's early B side versions. UK EDM like garage, jungle, drum and bass, dubstep all can have their musical and technological roots traced back to the land of wood and water.
@@walteralexander689 I mean you're welcome to dispute anything I've said geez. Music history is a passion of mine, I'm always happy to hear countervailing perspectives.
@@walteralexander689 Mate, you have to be joking. Hip hop and Rap are derived heavily from Caribbean music. Caribbean immigrants living out of New York had a massive influence on the development of Hip-Hop and Rap. The turntablist + MC act, as we recognise, was pioneered almost exclusively by Jamaican soundystems. Go listen to track called How the West was Won by Ranking Toyan. It's music like this which laid the foundations for Caribbean immigrants and African-Americans to develop Hip-Hop and Rap.
@@jh9667 Sound Systems have nothing to do with Rap, they're a part of Hip-Hop which is a subculture, not a genre of music. There was already a Sound System Culture among African-Americans in New York before DJ Kool Herc, their story has been told in a documentary entitled 'Founding Fathers: The Untold Story of Hip-Hop'.
@@darealness514 not really. DC is super young compared to these guys. So you can forgive him imo. Chico is usually pretty well versed with older music. And you can see the older heads )being he and Karlous) just taking in the information instead of interjecting like DC. Watch any of their live shows and it definitely is apparent, the older guys know their stuff
Slim a little slow Busta says do your research alluding to the fact that he did a track with Tek9 and it went over his head. Then Bus literally had to hold his hand and walk him through it. Damn...
@@BennyNegroFromQueens It was never invented in Jamaica. The Jamaican Kool Herc who mostly Caribbeans claim created Hip Hop came to America when he was around 12 years old and he admitted he was imitating Black Americans playing our music through the Funk and Disco Era not Dancehall or reggae plus it's a contradiction when people say that he brought Hip Hop music over from Jamaica then they say he created Hip Hop. There's wasn't one creator of Hip Hop plus the Black American Coke La Rock was the actual Rapper at the parties so all these claims about strong Jamacain influence being there is wrong truth is it was a American Jamacain and other American caribbeans following what Black Americans was doing heavily to create Hip Hop.
@@BennyNegroFromQueens So tell the caribbeans to stop saying a Jamacain created Hip Hop if Kool Herc didn't create it Lol goofy I can name the Funk songs like "James Brown - Funk Drummer" that had a large if not largest impact on the creation of the Hip Hop sound as a matter of fact go read the comments on that song and see all the people confirming what I said now name the Dancehall song that had more impact or just as much of an impact as that James Brown song or name a Dancehall artist more influential to the birth of Hip Hop than James Brown? If you can't name it then take the FACTS I said as the history lesson and dismiss yourself.
Dancehall, reggae, Jamaica on a whole have been huge influences to the music industry. It is quite confusing looking at international awards and the category for Dancehall particularly is not there for more recognition to our peoples' creativity. Everyone incorporating dancehall and reggae in their beats for that gravitational pull for viewers but...no real love right? Y'all be taking our styles and people look at those hits as the originator, but really and truly unnu come a we yaaad, tek weh we style, vibes and leave us in the dirt.
He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
@Janecia lalumeia You sound crazy. Hip hop was created by a Jamaican by the name of DJ Kool Herc. Have some respect for Jamaicans and the hip hop culture.
@@takeprofits1917 no he didn't Kool herc wasn't the first one to even do the breakbeat he admitted himself he was the best at it also how come they didn't sample any reggae or dancehall music you know why because most African-Americans living in York hated reggae and dancehall music they sampled Funk and disco James Brown people like that I always hear them say that dancehall is the foundation of hip-hop when there's no musical connection to it and even if you go to toasting that came from America they got it from the radio host what Jamaica contribute to hip-hop was a speaker system and the parties outside but other than that most of the musicality of hip-hop comes from United States there wasn't no breakbeat and reggae music or dancehall like James Brown let's stop it give me the earliest reference point to a hip hop song having a Jamaican breakbeat and there's a song that's been using Funk or disco before it
Yeah what he said is false. Kool Herc interview is what you should watch. DJ Mario did it before Herc. Plus the dance hall rift is from an an Black American song.
Some Jamaicans tend to discredit African Americans and other Caribbean people. There are a lot of elements and sounds with Hip-Hop culture that Jamaicans did not create.
Yep he is and!!!!!!!!! This is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
And did u know the UK dancehall MCs on Saxon sound system london..MC. Peter King is sed to be the fast style'originator, followed by Papa Levi, Tippa Irie, Daddy colonel, jamaicans DJs heard this through cassettes and visits to England, Saxon Mcs had the dancehall world on lock during mid 80s. Takimg trips to New york to clash sounds like Third world.. The fast talking as it was later termed continued in england and found a place in breakbeat jungle later to be called drum n bass,.. Using decks sound systems and Djs & MC.s as in dancehall the mcs sped up even more, spawning other styles of black underground street music in the time line of Uk garage.. UKG.... Speed garage...... Grime & and now drill.. Dizze rascal is a perfect example of the style that starting in the early eights south London.. Peace. Busta is the leggo beast pon any riddim, the master of the fast chat
THE TRUE FOUNDATION OF HIP HOP: Firstly. Hip Hop lingo was greatly influenced by the Jazz era. Jazz terms such as Funky, Fresh, Fly, Dope, Hip, The Bomb, Boogie, Cool, Chill, Crib, Down by law, Jam, etc were adopted by Hip Hop. Moreover, the break beats and soundscape of Hip Hop were greatly influenced by James Brown. In fact, James Brown is the most sampled artist within Hip Hop of all time. Technically, Janes Brown is The Godfather of Hip Hop. Respect to the legendary DJ Kool Herc. But, he was a major contributor to Hip Hop and not its creator. If a Jamaican created Hip Hop then why isn't a Jamaican artist the most sampled in Hip Hop history? Name the various phrases from Reggae, Dance hall or Jamaican patois that were adopted by Hip Hop. Can you show any Jamaicans rapping and break dancing in 30s and 40s prior to Hip Hop? The elements of Hip Hop started WAY before Kool Herc and WAY before 1973. Black Americans were rapping in the 1940s. Examples of this include “The Jubalaires.” It's important to note that Black Americans were holding house parties and block parties with booming systems and dancing to James Brown music back in the 1960s. Dancers would pop & lock, slide, and do splits to mimic James Brown’s style of dancing. Signature dances such as the Camel Walk, The Mash Potato, The Soul Train, The James Brown, etc. were all great influences on future B-Boys and B-Girls. DJING: Black American DJs Disco King Mario and Grandmaster Flowers are heralded as the real founding fathers of Hip Hop. EMCING Black American old school rapper Coke La Rock from New York City is oftentimes credited as being the first official MC in the history of Hip-hop. GRAFFITI: In terms of Graffiti, the 1st known Hip Hop or music influenced graffiti artist went by the name of “CornBread” in the 1960s. He was a Black American from Philadelphia. "CornBread" combined tagging with the music scene. BREAKDANCING: Black Americans invented acrobatic dances such as Tap Dancing, The Charleston, The Lindy Hop, etc. These dances would later become major influences on breakdancing. Additionally, in 1925, Earl Tucker (aka Snake Hips), a performer at the Cotton Club, invented a dance style similar to today’s hip-hop moves. He incorporated floats and slides into his dance. Similar moves would later inspire breakdancing. Breakdancing itself is also thought to have been inspired by the performances of James Brown, which included splits, popping and locking. According to legendary Latino break dancer Crazy Legs, there were very few Hispanic B Boys in the beginning. He said that almost all the B Boys were Afro American. Crazy Legs stated that the Latinos in the 1970's originally referred to breakdancing as Moreno Style dancing. BREAK BEATS/HIP HOP SOUNDSCAPE: In 1962, James Brown recorded "Live at the Apollo." Brown’s drummer Clayton F. introduced a sound that is now known as the breakbeat. The breakbeat would later inspire the b-boy movement, as breakers danced to these beats at block parties. More importantly, in 1969 James Brown recorded two songs that would further influence the drum programming in today’s rap music: “Sex Machine” with John Starks playing drums, and “Funky Drummer” with Clyde Stubblefield on the drums. BATTLING: Another early and continuing influence on Hip hop culture is the Black American competitive oral competition called “playing the dozens,” which combines humorous insults and oral skills in a battle to shock and ultimately silence one’s opponent. A famous practitioner of this oratorical contest was Muhammad Ali, who used short rhymes to belittle his opponents and stupefy pundits. In hip hop the “dozens” grew into the tradition known as “battling,” in which rappers face off against each other to see who has the best lyrics and stylistic flow. TOASTING: Equally important, toasting was derived from the “rapping” of black American radio DJs from the 1940s through the 1960s. These Black American Djs influenced the toasting style of the Jamaican dancehall producer Coxson Dodd. Dodd took toasting or rapping to Jamaica and Herc brought toasting back to the United States. BEATBOXING: Beatboxing is the fifth element of Hip Hop. Some of the historical influences of beatboxing include scat singing out of jazz. It's a historically Black American art form in that even the scat singing in jazz owes a lot of its roots to blues. Scat singing influenced the development of doo-wop and rap and hip-hop styles. Beatboxing is a tradition of vocal percussion which originates in 1980s Hip-Hop. The first pioneer of 1980s beatbox was Darren 'Buffy' Robinson, a member of the Hip Hop crew The Fat Boys. CALL & RESPONSE AND HIP HOP CADENCE: Hip Hop was greatly influenced and inspired by The Black American tradition of Call and Response. This tradition grew out of the Black churches in the deep South, whereby Baptist preachers would grunt, scream, and holler to elicit a response from the congregation. Music artists, such as James Brown, used Call and Response chants and grunts in their songs. In the deep south, Call and Response chants morphed into work chants. Singing work chants helped coordinate movements and build on collective strength in harsh working conditions. Cadence calls motivate, while ensuring unit cohesion and promoting fun. One man, known as the caller, would stand aside from the crew and sing verbal instructions. His commands were answered by the men’s lining bars rapping in rhythm in a call and response manner. The military adopted the Call and Response Cadence songs. Black American Army Private Willie Lee Duckworth Sr. (1924-2004) made up “Sound Off”, a.k.a., the “Duckworth Chant,” which is used to this day in the U.S. Army and other branches of the military. The chant later gained fame as “Sound Off” and remains one of the most popular marching cadences in Army history. Early Black American Hip Hop DJ's used the Black American tradition of Call and Response to format the beginning cadence of Hip Hop. A cadence is a rhythm, or a flow of words or music, in a sequence that is regular or steady. The "Sound off" chant greatly influenced the cadence of early Hip Hop emcees. The pioneering Hip Hop DJs used Call and Response chants and grunts to motivate, engage, inspire, and move the crowd by instructing the audience to scream, or repeat popular phrases.
America and jamaica have a nice exchange of culture and I love what it gives birth to. Our RnB got them movin with ska and that evolved in so many great ways and then they allowed us to evolve into hiphop. Such a beautiful and legendary cultural exchange. But really its just all African music. Thats the real roots. Its all blues and the blues scale goes way bsck as a derivitive of the pentatonic scale which is acient. And then of course you have the clave rythms involved. I guess you could say Africa has been the powerhouse of western music.
No homie. They didn’t give us hip hop. Check out the first song listed below. Know your history. This is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
@@massdisruption3437 Ah I see. But I already knew Jamaics definitley didnt just straight up give us hip hop. Hip hop wasnt even a word yet. I Just felt they just speed up the birth of it by providing the sound system. Like when Dj Kool Herc brought in the sound system which allowed for easy access parties and gatherings in the hood with huge speaker set ups which served as a pitri dish for hiphop to grow in that hood of new york. As for MCing, Graffiti, breaking, the actuall essence of hip hop and what it is as a genre/culture, i give credit to African Americans. But yeah I agree rapping n all that is older than both america and Jamaica. Its just vocalization of a rhythmic pattern. Basic music theory. Music is ancient, humans just migrate and drop little pieces here and there as they stop by places over thousands and thousands of years. Ska, jazz, reggae, cuban salsa, the blues, hardbop. Its all African. The blues scale is just a derivitive of the pentatonic scale which is ancient music theory. No one really started anything. It just kept traveling and evolving. We went from tribal African tunes with vocals and 5 note wooden wind pipes to trap beats.
He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
Just because something's in history books doesn't mean much on its own. I say this as a history teacher. We all know how many lies are in history books! Just had to give my two cents. I agree with your first sentence though.
The original comment says Jamaica had some influence in the rap game. Look at the family tree from well-known hop hop artists. Genealogy can verify that most entertainers were first-generation immigrants. Colombian 'African' beat hip hop has roots from British isles. Let us appreciate that. The word Caribbean has its own meaning . This has always lost its translation in the younglins as a whole . 2nd generation and so on. Dem a call us pirates Dem a call us illegal broadcasters Just because we play what the people want And dem a call us pirates Dem a call us illegal broadcasters DTI try stop us, but they can't One station, dem couldn't run England Two station, dem couldn't run England Three stations, dem could not please the nation Everybody want fi listen to the B station Advertizers stay true from your session Him a take we equipment and a put it in a box If dem brought down one, build five more strong - strong Down in England we've got lots of radio stations Playing the people's music night and day, ye-yeah Reggae, calypso, hip-hop, or disco The latest sound today is what we play On and off (off and on), off…👌 Source: Musixmatch.
This is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
@@massdisruption3437 It was jamacian emcee's that brought their dancehall to america where it was built upon, and not only did it birth hiphop, but ALLOOTT of modern music... House, Acid, Drum n Bass, Jungle and in turn Dubstep, etc.. basically all EDM, was dancehall... Hiphop? yep dancehall. hiphop came from the riddim. for anyone who doesnt understand like these idiots... one word SAMPLING
@@HelloKurse Whoa! House came from disco music mostly from groups out of Philadelphia and acts like Sylvester. Actually, a lot of these disco acts like Sylvester and Ecstasy, Pleasure, and Pain are still heavily sampled in House music. From there in the 80s it grew into house between NY/NJ (it is called Club in NJ), Chicago, and Baltimore. I get wanting to be proud but let's not steal other people's history.
Calypso Artists have been Rapping, Freestyling and Battling each other since the the 1800's Early 1900's in "Extempo Wars". People like Roaring Lion, Lord Invader were Famous for it.
I'm a DJ, so let's stop the bull sh*t. What records were used for breakbeats was it Reggae records? Or was it Funk & R&B? It was R&B Black American musicians no damn Jamaican records was ever used for Break Beats I know this I have all the original Break Beats and none of them are from any Carribean islands. Stop the cap !!
Kool herc brought TOASTING to the Bronx, which eventually became MCING. Dancehall didn’t have an influence??! Biggie and Puffy’s first record was dancehall track by Supa Cat - Dolly My Baby.
As a pan africanist from America, I don't care who stated what and who influenced what. Its all Black music. I grew up listening to hip hop, I got introduced to reggae and dancehall by a Jamacian girl I was dating back in 2005-2006. I like afrobeat as well. Its all black music.
@@darrenpinnock6651 Baltimore MD .USA I've heard reggae and dancehall prior to 2005 coming from car speakers etc. But I never took the time to really listen to it until 05/06. Thats when I started knowing who is who
@@kareemeternal5914 ok so whos heavy D . And you didn't realise where snow came from or was that bfr you . If so say so . Learn the history of reggae music and why certain forms didn't and wasn't allowed overseas that led and gave birth too. Hence the sound system ext rap is dancehall over a different beat mate . New York is a immigrant city remember that. Being patriotic for America bfr culture
@@darrenpinnock6651 lol you need to learn where y’all got it from. Here you go son. his is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
@John Doe I Dont Know What That Had To Do With Fast Style Chattting. Prince Buster Was King Of Ska In The UK, Have You Checked Out His Style And Lyrics.
The Fu Schnickens were incredible at this. Not only were they KungFu before Wu-Tang but they were speed rapping before Jay Z and all that noise...Fu Schnickens were pioneers at this sound and had true Dancehall+Hip-hop intentions.
Flying junkies. Don’t stop there. Tell the truth and shame the devil. Tell the whole story. This is for those ignorant people in the world that falsely attribute so called hip hop and rap to reggae and dance hall. That is totally false. This culture existed in America and was birthed by American blacks. Not in New York but down south. Here is a 1936 song by Louis Armstrong(New Orleans) that shows you that they was rapping before anybody in Jamaica had a mic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oj8bnbXvcTo.html This is pig meat markam(north Carolina)) with his song in 1968 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NRS62nccwmw.html You can clearly see that so called hip hop comes from our previous cultures in America. This is nowhere near how many examples can be given. This type of thing has went under many different names scat,diddies, etc. just about every black entertainer from before then till the 80’s was expected to be able to be a master of ceremony(emcee), to improvise a song with on spot with poetry(flowing). That’s what made a show live. In the process of singing songs and working audiences around the country and the world for some. They developed these techniques that we call hip hop today. Now im not saying that Jamaicans haven’t had influence on the culture. What I’m saying is that People need to be honest with themselves. If you removed all the Jamaicans from the scene. You still have all the elements of so called hip hop here. I celebrate brothers like kool herc and let’s be clear. It was the brothers from here who showed him what time it was(five preventers)He played black American music. Not dance hall or reggae. As for reggae being the inspiration for rap. How can that be so when reggae artist like bob marley and the wailers was singing doo wop and r&b songs at the beginning of there career. I love there music and reggae took it to another level with there innovations. Yet let’s be clear. If you take out all of the influence of r&b on ska,reggae,and dancehall(they all-have numerous remakes of American black r&b songs). Would you really have all the hits in these genres????Now take out all the influence of ska,reggae,dancehall on r&b, would you have all the hits of r&b???? If you answer the question honestly. You know that ska,reggae,and reggae dancehall are way more influenced by r&b,jazz,hip hop. Also there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a numbers game. There’s more blacks in the United States than Jamaicans...... so I makes more since that we would have more of a influence. To those that grew up on the island. You know that you listened to black r&b stations from New Orleans. Fats Domino,chubby checkers, roscoe Gordon,Louis Armstrong influenced your singers singing........ the strong masculine voice lasted in the Caribbean while other people infiltrated our music with that falsetto style. To those that are true they know that they was singing in the fields(sugar cane,bananas,etc. in the fifties “ I found my thrill on blueberry hill” we sang them too. The reason why you sing what we sing is because we are the same people. Yet we have problems because a lot of Jamaicans make statements about our history that is false. Like bob marley singing about the Buffalo soldiers stolen from Africa. Them soldiers was the majority indigenous black from America. Ex Indians(get it Indians like West Indians) conscripted to kill their own kind. See bob didn’t know his history but made a song about us not knowing our culture. Everyone should get a pass once. I don’t hold it against bob. Yet let me clear up something. A lot of Jamaicans talk about the golf coast of Africa as their home. That they know where there from. Yet do many Jamaicans know that the two Gold Coasts in America. The east coast(south Carolina especially) and the east coast of Mexico and Belize) is where the majority of modern Jamaicans is from. Yet they know what tribe they are. Yet many don’t know of the 300000 yamasee Indians stolen from the gold cost of South Carolina by the English and brought to Jamaica also the indigenous black Indians of southern Mexico/Belize Gold Coast who fled from there during the arrival of the Spanish to Jamaica. That it was actually these two black groups of Gold Coast American blacks(not African Gold Coast) who stood strong and proud. Your so called oppressors have deceived a lot of you about you and yet still a lot of y’all don’t know us, which is in fact you.I suggest before you write the history about us and our music. Do your own history on you and yours.......
Yes Busta teach them ... Americans need to learn their history why is it that they believe they and only they had a hand in history.. Kmt as beenie said ah we set Di trend
@@Aboriginal_American_Hebrew very true. But you should all do understand Caribbean history (JAMAICAN MAROON).. This is apart of our culture and a very rich one at that to as i said the best rappers are of Jamaican heritage.. And the statement of Men of this Country.. Americans are not the only nation to add to greatness to history of black culture Caribbeans have to played a major.. My advice to you learn black history not just American black history 💋
@@thelastdon9000 Again educated yourself with facts of the world not facts of America... My culture did not start in America a few hundred years ago it started a million years before that... Kmt
@@thelastdon9000 the fact that your so quick to dismiss anything black that black Americans can not claim as theirs says it all.. young blood you got a lot to learn... Very strange you have not directed your comment to the person who Busta was honoring why is that???
@@AIWentz Kool Herc was one of several DJs who participated in a Bronx based youth movement that became known as Hip-Hop. He didn't start or invent anything.
@@AIWentz Dancehall didn't exist back then and there's nothing Jamaican about the movement. It was started by Black American gangs mostly the Black Spades.
Yes and we have to pay homage to the original fast mic talkers of whom inspired the same Papa San and Lieutenant Stitchie, like English danchall MC's like Peter King, Asher Senator, Papa Levi, to name only but a few. England soundsystem culture, set that pace. Big up Busta Rhymes said way. One of my favourites.
He didn’t create nothing. They are all a bunch of copiers.. when u look at how we influenced Jamaican culture it’s fukin crazy. American rnb paved way the way for y’all. Y’all had no musical culture until y’all seen our identity. Bow down and pay respect
@@janecialalumeia8694 what bollocks are you actually talking? Strictly speaking, we have to big up Afrika. Without the motherland, none of it would have existed. Reggae in particular ska and bluebeat, is a fusion of RnB, mento and elements of rock n roll, Caribbean afrikans took your shit and made it even more palatable to aural consumption, ALLOWING you to create hip hop, in which spawned many of todays popular genre's. You mean I have to teach you your own musical legacy? Lol 😆
nah bruh our music influenced every kinda genre including in the Caribbean. Big natural hair bel bottoms colorful shirts our slang an vernacular our music in the 60s an 70s influenced erbody including hip hop that is a combination of be bop soul jazz an Disco, yes Dancehall is a contribution yet it's BY FAR THE NOT THEE ORIGIN
@@darrenpinnock6651 once again It wasn't Called rap or hip hop it was Called spoken word an it was done over instrumentals if jazz an soul way before raggae was known in By us so That's Bulshit we always had music of genre dance in acrobatics of all genre. THE JUBALAIRS AND THE BEARS 1930s- 40s were one
@@bupoe4796 well like I said. Dance hall is new compared to music like rub a dub and early reggae. I have no doubts it has roots in America with clubs like cue club but on a real england has more roots to reggae than America musically specifically places like Brixton London where a lot of artists used to visit and live including Bob Marley
