Busting Drum Myths ...sorta... 

Do you all agree with these myths? 🤔🥁

I feel like this is the most honest information about drums and cymbals to ever come out of the mouths of brand reps.

Cooper goes: “it works wat better when you do it correctly!” Cracks me up 😂

2 things: I had a 12 inch Premier Soprano snare that people used to try to buy off of me all the time until I finally got an offer I couldn't refuse. Also, the Pearl guy's voice is smooth and soft, and I could listen to him speak all day.

Man that pearl guy has a great voice. Could listen to him ramble about drums all day.

The most underrated piece of gear is definitely the throne for me. I invested in a great Tama throne almost 10 years ago and it's a life changer! Makes the gigs much more bearable when you're comfortable!

We’re so driven by marketing and branding I sometimes feel overwhelmed by the amount of gear you’re “supposed” to buy in order to sound “great”. These answers were amazing and made me investigate and experiment with my kit and gear in general. Thank you

I have that same Pearl Sensitone Aluminum Alloy in a 6.5 inch depth. It's an EXCELLENT snare, my best one ever.

Absolutely one THE best drum channels on the platform.

My suggestion for underrated cymbals is the 14" Zildjian Trashformer. Been playing mine for over 20 years...I love that thing.

As an employee at a drum shop, thank you for this video. All of this info is great to keep in mind when talking drums and cymbals with customers.

You rock, David, Always excited to see a new video from this channel. Thank you for your service!

Been watching this channel since my junior year is high school. The year was 2017, first video I saw was making a cowbell out of an old fan. Been subscribed ever since. Long live this channel

9:15 The way that guy explains things is the most relaxing thing I've ever heard

Love love love your microphone!!!!!! Thanks for the video!!😊

This is interesting. All the answers here are level-headed and thoughtful, they explain well their answers too. Meanwhile in the guitar industry "yes, you need a vintage guitar for vintage tone, because yes. You need a custom shop guitar if you want better quality, everything is else trash." Not even entering the tonewood argument (PRS im staring at you).

Great channel man, love what you produce. Thank you.

This was super insightful thanks. Love the drum stick interview mic too lol 🎤

Unfortunately, the "B8 sounds bad" myth partially comes from other cymbal makers not knowing how to properly work it and relegating it to their lower, student lines. Yes, a Sabian B8 is the same alloy as a Paiste 2002, but that's where the comparisons end. Great video David!

I loved that format! 😊

I think it's time to see Dave review a Tama star kit 😎

This was soooooooo great. Thank you. Answered so many fundamental questions!!!

I gotta say, Tama make the best Microphone stands I’ve ever used. I’ve had Hurcules, Sennheiser, Beyer Dynamic and the usual run of the mill basic stands you’d get from any store or Amazon. Most if not all have broken and needed to be repaired or thrown out. But in 2003 we bought 3 tama stage star (I think they’re called) stands from a shop in Abu Dhabi while out there on a residency, and here we are 20 years later, so so many gigs played and they’re holding up as good as the day they were bought.

I've had that 12" x 8" PDP Dry maple snare for 2 years. It's so awesome and very affordable! You can muffle it and make it sound super fat or you can crank it and have that piccolo snap with extra body due to the depth. I love it! Best snare I've ever had!

Hi David, great video as usual! I love the fact you put clip of my friend and former classmate Tyler Smith in your video! He is one heck of an amazing human but also one fine drummer! Side note on the effect of wraps...I was once offered a $75000 a year job at DW by John Good if I could hear the difference between a wrap kit and a lacquer kit...needless to say I don't work for DW!

It was nice meeting you at Sweetwater that day. Love your channel!!!

I used to hear Cake use the vibra slap in their music all the time and I could never explain to my friends what it was. Thanks to this video now I know what it's called. Thanks!

I love the drum-stick-mic; kudos!

Thanks for the insights from this show and the exhibitors. Great questions and myth busting!

Love this video, would love to see more of these in the future! Also, PDP 12x8 dark snare test WHEN? I'm curious now... lol

bought a nice maple PDP kit this year, and the store was so awesome they threw in a hydrolic pearl throne. can't express how awesome it is

I have the 14x6.5 of the Pearl sensitone elite aluminum snare, that man wasn't lying. PHENOMENAL. Got it after finding out it was on a periphery record and LOVING the tone

All answers from all sales reps were awesome, great explanations behind each answer

Great underrated pieces of gear: old pearls mmx and blx

I went to a Carl Palmer demo… Drum kit with shells made from melted down cymbals. It was so loud, they didn’t even mic the kit up, and this was a pretty big room as well.

Watching to the end for today's Outro surprise! Coop3rDrumm3r and the vibraslap! 😂😂 Very Nice!

Cymbal size, material and processing is everything in determining the sound quality. You can re-lathe, hammer and port cheap B8 symbols and make them sound amazing, if you know what you’re doing!

The stick microphone is incredible attention to detail

Very reasonable and predictable answers. Loved the underrated question and answers!

love your content david!

The vintage VS modern is more about how the drum is constructed, and the edges as was mentioned. A 6 ply maple kit with 45 degree edges is going to sound different than a 3 ply mahogany kit with re-rings and rounder edges. The latter is a vintage approach to shell building, but a new shell built to those specs would sound close IMO. Then again, the kit I use is made out of single tension mahogany marching drums with re-rings and wood hoops, so I won't get that tone from modern drums. And while it's actually pretty versatile, I'm not going to get a modern tone from it either.

A friend of mine had a vintage snare (not sure what brand). While tinkering with it, he noticed the lugs didn't have any fillers to dampen the lugs' vibrations like most modern snares. These and other details I'm sure help make vintage drums sound the way they do.

I love B8 cymbals - 2002s are my favourite.

I love the drumstick mic.

What I agree with is your microphone that’s used in all these interviews👏🏻

I especially think that you get what you pay for UP TO A POINT. My Yamaha RCs cost half of what exotic wood DWs cost, but they sound just as good (maybe better? YMMV). But the exotic wood finishes on DWs are SOOOOO much more beautiful. After a certain point, you’re paying for looks, nicer/more usable hardware, and other things, but not sound necessarily. Head choice and tuning mean a lot as well. Thanks for doing this, Rdavidr! Quite interesting to hear the opinions of the professionals!

Excellent video..., PDP dry 8x12... yes I want!

I've never been to a rdavidr video this early. It feels great

Fun stuff! Myth busting is always entertaining 🙂

For me dw drums are the best representation of a modern drum sound. No vintage kit or even modern kit I ever played sounded this clear and beautiful like dw does. The richness in the tone especially in the low end blows me away every time I play a dw set. I recommend every starter who wants to play drums seriously buying a dw right away. Maybe it hurts financially at first but you will never look back.

Outstanding!!!

Once when I was playing an open mike, one of the crash cymbals bounced off the stand after hitting it and I had to catch it mid song (I finished the song, such a pro). So, I'm a fan of loosely fitting retainers. I quite like the clip on, nylon type, such as Sonor or Tama.

I wrapped a set of Keller maple shells with jammin sam gloss white. You could play the drum and hear the LONG sustain. The wrap didn't kill anything. Large Hayman/DW turret lugs dampen a LOT more than a wrap does.

Also using drum stick as a mic is hilarious 😂

rip ndugu he was my old jazz summer teacher before he passed... absolute legend

Great video bro

This video is Fun!!! Thank you

I like DW stands because you can adjust the height or tension from the bottom. So you could get as loose as can be but still have that wingnut protection or choke it if you wish

Pearl guy was ON POINT!!! And I GOTTA find that Ndugu video 😮

Great vid. Thanks!

Great video ❤

Pearl guy has an ASMR vibe. Also, I got that sensitone snare. Indeed a sleeper.

Using felts and top-nuts is more of a style preference, with some minor safety features. It’s like playing drums barefoot vs wearing shoes. The idea that they choke the cymbal seems kind of silly, especially if you’re going to claim that wraps don’t choke the sound of the shell in any meaningful way. Have you ever tried to do a cymbal stop by grabbing the bell? … exactly!

Wraps choke drumshells if they are made of metal. Back in the day I wrapped my metal shell of a Pearl World series snaredrum..And what the result was..a choked sound, but that was the thing I was looking for. Btw choked cymbals are ideal for keeping sustain out of the way when preferred in some recording sessions.

first time i heard a vibra slap was on a rush album in the seventies. Neil Peart always had all sorts of percussive instruments.

For the throne thing, i have to say that it's something lots of drummers don't care about. i've owned a Tama Hydraulic throne ( TAMA HT750BC 1st Chair Ergo Rider Hydraulix ) and I would never change it for any other drum throne in the world. The most comfrortable ,robust and easy to set up drum throne in the world! ❤

Myth: Cooper knows what he's doing... BUSTED 🤣🤣🤣🤣

First 21 seconds and this is your funniest video yet! Idk, just funny 😅 Anyway, what classic truck or car are you driving? The steering wheel leaves me wondering… very excited to watch this video.

As a marching percussionist, wraps, at least in a marching context, definitely choke the resonance of the drums a bit, and we sometimes tune or muffle differently to accommodate that. It's a lot more evident from a distance, which you're gonna notice better on a field when the drums are 100 feet away.

Yo David love your content bro keep these up Brody!!💪

Great video!

Was super sick seeing Daniel and Rob here!

The most underrated Tama drums are the newer superstar classics I love the superstars plus mine is a 7 piece I love having those extra pieces it’s my sound personality

My first crash cymbal was some 18” sabian B8 crash/ride. It sounded pretty good when paired next to a paiste 2002 medium crash in the same size. I always wondered why any other b8 cymbal I played sounded like garbage

New rdavidr vid? Yes please!😍🤘😥🥵🥲

I've never heard of Ndugu, but I appreciate the respect. RIP 🕊

Vibraslap!! Yo, Crazy Train intro without it…. Forget it. Gotta have it 🤘🏻

I love how you're using a drumstick as a microphone.

I just love the drum stick microphone lol

"Whoa! That's a nice thrown, man." I got an awesome dw thrown with back rest, I just wish it had more legs then three.

I really like the drum stick microphone

Off course you’re interviewing the sales. They make the myth. Brilliant

The Eagle absolutely cracked me up

Thanks for the video

some of the best drums I've heard or played are cheaper kits with decent heads and tuned well...as for cymbals I personally prefer are FX9 alloy (generation x line) or Nickel Silver NS alloy, not keen on the super dirty/dry cymbals that seem popular now.

Vibraslap is defiantly an underrated percussion piece, I bought one my freshman year of high school because of CrazyTrain. It probably does work better when you do it correctly but I got mine mounted.

david is so cool. I wanna be like him when i grow uo

Bill Stewart's (awesome) ride cymbal sound is in part from him using extra felts and clamping them down.

Stick mic is such a brilliant hack idea

9:00 - timestamp for the greatest Pearl advertisement I've ever seen.

Talking about pdp concept maple snares, they’re one of the best budgets snares I’ve ever listen

Clearly the most underrated piece of equipment is the Pearl tom arm. it's great at everything!

I do own a vibra-slap... and also the absolutely essential flex-a-tone.

That TAMA rep scares me every time I see him, he got mad at me and a random guy for shedding together at PASIC, we were probably too loud. I'll never forget lol.

While I don’t like marketing, I DO like that each company has its own approach. The differences do add up and give us so many more options

Nice Cooper cameo 😂

The most underrated Tama product is the "Cobra Clutch". It's an awesome piece of machinery and the best thing I have ever purchased for my kit.

My hot takes! (and clearly I am an expert. haha) Myth 1: Is a more complex topic than was addressed here. Wraps and adhesives were not all made equally. Vintage wraps were a much harder celluloid type material that was highly flammable, modern wraps are often a softer vinyl based material. Vtg glue/adhesives were also different and many now are banned due to high VOC contents. What era of wrap you have affects the tone because of the different physical characteristics inherent to different materials. As the entire drum vibrates when struck, everything you change on a drum - even mounting methods will change the sound. However, all of this considered - Wraps/paint is probably only 1-2 percent of the entire "tone" equation. Myth 2: Agreed Myth 3: Agreed Myth 4: China cymbal sizing is typically measured in inches which is based upon the Imperial Measurement System which was subjectively developed and has no basis on anything that would vary tonally with even numbers in ways that wouldn't also apply to odd number sizing. Myth 5: Subjective and subtle. But generally agree with people saying "heads and tuning." However, you just wont get vintage Broadkaster round tones with a sharp bearing edge no matter what you do. But you could still purchase a modern set of Broadkasters... That said, vintage wooden Ludwig shells were all made out-of-round with a "flat" portion at the scarf joint seam. This deadens overtones in a unique way that is specific to vintage drums, so it depends on how much of a tone-purist your are. I personally will be clutching my vintage drums with my cold dead hands in my coffin. Consider purchasing an original 1965 Stratocaster and it'll cost $28K, however a 1965 Ludwig drum set can easily be had for $2k. Vintage drums are one of the most accessible vintage instruments to get your hands on and I highly recommend it. Myth 6: Agreed Myth 7: Drums, like many other instruments, experience diminishing returns on investment after you surpass a median price point. However, sometimes people just want nice things cause they can afford them and it has more to do with user experience than tone. Have a nice day and I would love to hear your thoughts!

The lav on the drumstick like it's a handheld mic 😂😂😂

The Tama cobra hi hat clutch pedal was so underrated.