But What About Righteous Judgement??? 

I think of Pope Francis famously saying "Who am I to judge?" Of course he received much righteous judgement for his statement!

When God hates all the same people that we do, then we know that we have created God in our image instead of the other way around. Really appreciate your conversations.

The verse saying "Judge Righteously and plead the cause of the poor and needy" in Proverbs gave me a different outlook on what that means. We're not called to use biblical laws to judge others. We're called to LOVE. And when someone is loved, cared for, accepted and have those needs met....THAT alone can literally be life changing!

"Remove the plank from your own eye and then you may see better to remove the speck from your brother's eye"- Matthew Thank you Rev Trevors!

Amen! From afar, I feel such affection for you, your humor, your patience, your passion, your commitment to serve. Thank you, I am always inspired!

Thank you Rev Trevors! Your explaination makes perfect sense. "Righteous Judgement" is Condemnation! Those who use it are ignorant, condescending, and opinionated people who want to wield God's power for their own personal status. We are all sinners.

"Judge not..." was one of my Mum's favourite quotes (with six kids, she had a lot of work keeping the peace!) "Two wrongs don't make a right" was another gem! One thing we are called to be is humble. When you judge, you are not humble. You are essentially saying "I am superior to all of you." The woman "caught in adultery" is a prime example of how Jesus viewed judgement. He agreed with the men who were getting ready to stone the woman that, according to the law, this was what was supposed to happen. Then he told them that only the one completely free of sin could cast the first stone. After they all left (because of course none of them were completely free of sin) Jesus asked the woman "Does no one condemn you?" when she confirmed that to be true, He said "then I don't condemn you either. Go and sin no more". The ONE PERSON who was qualified to make a "righteous judgement" refused to judge her. It is the height of hubris for anyone to say "Oh, yes judge not UNLESS it's RIGHTEOUS judgement". When you do so, you put yourself about Jesus. Not exactly humble.

Pleading with God on other's behalf, carries with it the implication that we get to know that person. And thru knowing them, understand them and then learn to love them ourselves. This is why God loves each of us, his indwelling spirit knows our every thought, thus he understands us perfectly.

Amen!

Good equating "judgement" with "condemnation".

Amen 🙏🏿. I’ve had to learn that none of us are anymore righteous than anyone else. We are all a work in progress.

Much love, Padre.

Matthew 7:1-2: "Do not judge, so that you won't be judged. For you will be judged by the same standard with which you judge others, and you will be measured by the same measure you use." (CSB) Speaking only for myself, I don't want to face harsh judgment for my lusts and prejudices because I judged others harshly in those areas.

Too many people just love being nosey. By looking for and at others faults they don't have to address their own.

This was really good talk on judgement..I think To have peace and to feel good as a person it's better not to judge..God bless 🙏

Amen and Amen I need to pray to be more like Jesus I did not realize that I was doing what they were doing, I would condemn them for writing hatred about how until we go back to man and woman that the world will not be healed. Even though I am a Christian, and accept all, I have been condemning them, when I should be praying for them Thank you for your video. I will try and remember to think before I speak and pray. Gods Love

" Mercy triumphs over Judgment '

Yet people Love ❣️ guys like Kenneth Copeland Who makes me sick 🤢 And why many people are Happy If there's a Hell So God can punish their enemies Instead of forgiveness Keep doing God's work 🙏 Ed 💪

Amen. 🙏 And Thank you. 🙂

I'm a believer in 1st epistle of John 1: 8&9. The Truth is not in us! Ties back to Gen 3 listening to the lies & failure to confess! I have to say Mea Culpa several times a day! As a son of Adam I should know how to discern Truth from lies! & follow the 11th commandment "Love one Another as I have Loved You"

Hi good morning I'm going to say this. I believe that righteous judgement does not belong to you or me or anyone else it belongs to God alone and who is the determined what righteous judgment is. To me it goes like this the United States I assumed Canada as well have laws that are created by man for man and therefore those who sit in judgment are there to sit in judgment against or for those who have either broken those laws or have been harmed by someone else who has broken those laws. To me all other judgement must come from God we who are not God or not in a place to judge rightly or wrongly what someone does or does not do. I am here to offer to people regardless of what they do to offer to them God's love and God's forgiveness.

From the “get go”, my thoughts concerning the authority to employ “righteous judgment“ applies only to freedom of choice… Id Est “Is the behavior I am observing in others worthy of being emulated by me?” Or perhaps, “Is the behavior I am exhibiting something I would like to see emulated by others?” What Biblical “Righteous Judgement” does not provide, is the authority to enforce retribution. Just a thought…

❤❤❤❤❤ What a stressful life it must be to believe you need to judge other people's worth, rights or actions. The part I hate in my volunteer work is to try to decern wether I am helping a scammer or not. I prefer my rose colored glasses that let me think that everyone who is seeking emergency aid has actually suffered from a disaster. I can not imagine having to do that with everyone. That has to be exhausting and stressful.

I wish I could hear you better. I have to turn the volume all the way up. You're authentic and point to the real path to christlike love, the personally difficult path. The one that most folks I've met (of any or no religion) avoid. Thanks for encouraging us to take that harder path :)

"There but for the grace of God go I".

By your judgemenent of others , you are also judged. Your conscience remembers your judgements and holds you responsible the same as you judge others.

What makes them so righteous, what makes me so righteous to even have the right to righteous anger?! When God said the words "Vengeance is mine," he didn't intend for his followers to carry that out! God's Vengeance and judgment will come down on them, He doesn't need any help!!

I have had a number of people judge my daughter and by association me. Guess I should have told them thank you but I will be appealing to a higher court. I would so much rather have my father in heaven judge me for He knows my ways and my heart much better than some lower court who does not fully understand His law nor willing to look at the evidence. Thanks Rev!! I am ready to go forth now!

Amen, brother. Judgement is contagious. Judgemental people drive me to want to judge them with the verse, "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." Matthew 7:5. God bless you, Rev. Ed.

Thank You Rev Ed, I came across this randomly today and really needed to hear this .God Bless You.

given that we are, ALL of us, mortal, and, THEREFOR, lack PERFECT knowledge, we must never judge others, because, after all, " let who is WITHOUT SIN , cast the first stone! as for any one claiming that it's Righteous judgement" that's ONLY some mortal, imperfectly informed ( given the interconnectedness of all things, especially), person telling him/herself that it IS righteous, which in itself, counts for exactly Zip! i can SO agree with you, REverend! the tragedy is that so many people thses day , especially some in positions of power, completely Disagree here.. to much sorrow for those they claim to represent.. good to hear you again!

This is one of my favorite instructions from Jesus: "judge not that you be not judged." This includes self-judgement. If we refrain from judging others, we will likewise refrain from judging ourselves. That's not to excuse poor behavior, it's to encourage good behavior. People who judge others, have a nasty tendency to mistreat them as well. When we refrain from judgement, we tend to be more generous. We can express our opinion of another's behavior as being what it is, without impugning the character of the person. Of course, one of the main reasons for not judging another, is because we don't know all the facts. Only deity, which does know all the facts, (and I do mean ALL the facts), is in a position to accurately judge. Which God assigned the Ancients of Days to handle. God doesn't even judge us himself. Which facilitates being intimate with him.

Rev Ed. I really enjoy hearing your take on things and this is no exception. I’m not trying to be the alter boy, (I’m 74). I just feel most of us humans are unqualified to judge under most circumstances. That said I keep sinning because I catch myself judging in my mind almost every day! But I fight it as soon as I realize what I’m doing.

When I judge others it seems to get in the way. It breeds a sense of superiority when I should be humble. Mostly if I judge it makes them lesser than others in my mind and leads to distrust. A relationship of distrust is no way to share the joy of God's love. We all judge on a daily basis. Whenever I meet someone new I place them in categories based on looks and body language. However, I work very hard to treat them all with love and joy despite my preconceptions. I look at it this way. Each of us has our own path in life. The best way to teach others to walk the path of righteousness is by example alone. Our job is to love them the way God loves us. If no one you meet deserves your love and you give anyway, remember, none of us deserve Christ's yet he gave all he had. I know I can't possibly measure up to Jesus but I can give all I have and if possible find more. If you want to make the world a better place then make yourself a better person. You can't do that if you are too busy comparing yourself to others. That is what judgment is in the end. You believe yourself to be better than someone else. We are called to be servants not masters of mankind. God bless everyone.

If humans were capable of righteous judgement, Christ wouldn't have said let ye without sin cast the first stone. He knew nobody was sinless. If you're alive you've sinned.

I would like to put in an aside for righteous forgiveness, which always seems to get forgotten between judgement and acceptance. Off topic, but my two cents.

God tells us what is right and wrong. It gave us a conscience. Most things are live and let live, but there *are* things where righteous justice must be meted out. Starving people, homelessness, racism. These are the things we use that righteous anger for. That's what God gave us anger for: to battle iniquity. Inequality.

Thank you for sharing, Rev.

Thanks for your message Seems to me that people that are self-righteous lack awareness. However regardless of this at some point, they will face the refiner's fire and my hope is that this is a cleansing and a rebirth and not a punishment. My hope is that all will come to joyfully bow their knees to Christ.

Oh I'm so glad you talked about this, because it has happened to me, and beyond holding on to Jesus's command that we are to love one another. It's a troubling situation to be in, all we can do is to look to Jesus as our example of how to live.

Amen

The only righteous judgement is His. We are each in our own test and answer only to Him. Society can make laws on social behavior only to the extent to let us function as a group. WE judge that murder is not acceptable in our group, but short of that like drinking or other ideas it is between that person and the Lord. We have the free will to act and chose. He gave us a brain to use.

Here's a quote I came across from a 1985 Christian Science Monitor article... "Judging righteously means judging rightly; and judging rightly, in its deepest sense, means judging according to the divine reality of being, in which everyone's true selfhood is recognized to be spiritual, reflecting the graces of God, divine Love." Sounds to me like judging from a place of equality, as opposed to from a place of superiority.

I think Jesus would be saying the equivalent of “per my previous email” a lot.😊

Ye who is without sin cast the first stone

Doesn't it say in the scriptures that none are righteous, no not one. For all have fallen short.

What is righteous is like beauty; it is in the eye of the beholder. Different societies have differing views on what is to judge righteously. And it is subject, to a certain extent at least, to evolving social mores. This variance and fluidity argues against the adoption of immovable absolutes.

Rev. Ed - good talk. I am still hopeful that other Christians will adopt a view similar to yours. Until that happens I remain vigilante to what goes by Christian morality. Perhaps some day you will make a video and discuss why you are a Christian. Not proof of Christianity, but why you take comfort in the teachings and stories that have come to be Christianity. Personally, in good conscience, I can not see myself following modern day Christianity. ♥

Only those who are sin free may judge, All of humans are sinners, and thus can not judge. Only God is sin free, and thus only God may judge. Our job is to live well and show the right way, by treating everyone we meet with love, honor, and dignity.

John 8 pretty well sums it up for me... The woman was guilty of adultery yet the pharisees could not condemn her, and neither did Christ condemn her. _Jesus answered and said to them, “Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. You judge according to the flesh; *I judge no one*. And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me._

It’s like the foot washing ad - some people said Jesus didn’t wash the feet of sinners. News flash! We are all sinners! Didn’t Jesus say to let the person who is sinless throw the first stone. None of us are sinless! We don’t get to judge! We don’t get to condemn! We are told to love one another.

...aaaaand RU-vid ate my post again. I'll see if I have the inclination to rewrite it when I have a proper keyboard.

Judge NOT lest ye be JUDGED what makes you less a sinner than them you condemn? They don't commit YOUR favorite sins, so they are to be condemned? When you judge you condemn yourself!

How about this: could righteous judgement and condemnation be directed towards those that judge and condemn?

Sounds like that guy is arguing for self-righteous judgement.

On MTN today, Ken Harbaugh played a clip of a Missouri legislator justifying a no exceptions stance on an abortion ban because, regarding pregnancies resulting from rape and incest, thst "God doesn't make mistakes" and it is God's will when those pregnancies occur. I hope you will comment on this in a future video.

IMO, the righteous judgment comes down in one of the gospels (??) that says if you don't point out your brother's "sins" then you will also be responsible for their sins before God!!

You mentioned C.S. Lewis -- allow me to offer these words that J.R.R. Tolkien gave to Gandalf, responding to a claim that someone deserved death: "Many that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement."

I don't believe I am righteous enough to be a judge.

I don't know if it's judgment, but the one "sin" that really still makes me angry is people putting themselves between other people and God. Whether it is saying that they need to do something{or not do something} before they can come to God, or they have to relate to God in a specific way or just trying to profit off of other people's faith and in so making it more difficult for them i've seen it hurt far too many people and drive far to many people away from God for it to not make me angry.

I think righteous judgment does not divide but operates in love reflecting God's own heart.

This is hard.

Every Christian has a choice, to become a judge, or a servant. Is this not the fruit? Fruit is not happiness, or success, or reputation, or image, or everthing else.

We're all GUILTY of sin. Some of us sin differently than others, but it's still sin. We deserve nothing but condemnation, and yet God loved us so much that He gave His SON to pay the price for all of our sins--past, present, and future. Each sin we (or they) commit is another drop of blood that Jesus shed for us. Not a single one of us has the right to judge others, especially if it's just to satisfy our petty jealousies and prejudices. I try to keep that in mind every day, so that I don't get a self-righteous "big head" against others.

Rev. Ed : Hi! What would you think of a short channel-description enumerating your long-term and your current goals? So that viewers know from the outset just what the channel is about and why you are doing this. One sentence about that which you feel is important for a viewer to know and to employ, when watching your channel - ("I feel that by acting kindly one .....and contributes to a more loving world.", in addition to, "I believe all people are created in the image of God and are children of God and are heirs to the throne of God - no conditions - therefore every single person we meet deserves our love, and respect", for example). I'm looking forward to seeing you here, soon. Thanks for all you do and are. Love.

Judging is GOOD! Judging is weighing the good and the bad to best understand the situation. I judge the pros and cons of sale prices in deciding whether to buy one item or save more money by buying half a dozen of them. I look at the traffic and judge if it's safe to cross the street. I even judge if a person seems honest or not in order to decide if I want to develop a relationship with them. What I try to do, though, is to not condemn them. Judges weigh the good against the bad, and then they decide if the person is guilty or innocent. If the judge has decided that the person is guilty, then he condemns their actions and punishes them. PLEASE help change the terminology. Judging is good. Condemning others is not. That's best left up to God. Edit: I judge that the 2ximpotus is not a good enough person to have a relationship with, so I'll leave him up to God to decide what to do with him. I DO feel sorry for the 2ximpotus and the trauma he must have gone through as a child that made him so (brain) damaged that he turned out this way. I sometimes think that's the best we can hope for... not to condemn. I judge that he's on the wrong side of heaven and hope that God will step in and take care of the situation. Brain/Amygdala damage comes from... Trauma, neglect, and/or abuse in early childhood overstimulates the amygdala (the brain's fear center) causing it to grow huge and results in aberrant thoughts and behaviors. This is damage you can LITERALLY SEE IN A BRAIN SCAN! Read the peer reviewed research on the fMRI differences between conservatives and liberals. Here's a little help; conservatives have larger amygdalas and liberals have larger anterior cingulate cortexes. Amygdala = fear. Anterior cingulate cortex= higher level, complex thinking. Red brain, blue brain: evaluative processes differ in Democrats and Republicans. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3572122/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23418419/

John 8: 7 - 11 Jesus had authority to judge the woman... His judgement was "continue living but sin no more." He also judged the men... "Let you who have no sin cast the first stone." 2 judgements - 1 lesson

Imagine believing in an omnipotent, etc god and then second guessing them!! It also occurs to me that the distinction between 'judgement' and 'righteous judgement' relates to the erroneous hierarchy of sins that you mentioned before.

The argument that conservative "Christians" make is that Christ said we could judge "righteously" (John 7:24), BUT when Christ says that is He not referring back to Proverbs 31:8-9, where we are told to judge righteously in defense of the poor and needy? The rest of the time scripture is pretty clear that we should avoid judging our neighbor (James 4:12, Romans 14:10, John 8:7-11, Romans 3:23, etc.). And also John 5:22 tells us that Christ ALONE has been given ALL judgment.

Righteous judgement (condemnation) 4:45 belongs to the righteous but as Paul writes in Ro. 3:10 "As it is written, 'There is no one righteous, not even one' " Truly righteous acts, arising from the actor's innate righteousness, belong to God alone. Jesus' admonition reflects the sin of taking on God's place (thus violating the 1st commandment) and saying things are "of God" is risking violation of the commandment against vain use of God's name.

Jesus talked about divorced people who remarrie are committing adultery, he never spoke about LBGTQ.

Bullseye 🎯

Jesus didn't spend his time on earth going around judging and condemning those who were lost spiritually but showed love to those who hardly had love shown to them. He did however openly judge and condemn those who were deeply involved in religion, who spent all their time studying the law, and yet missed everything it said, and used it as a way to elevate themselves and make themselves appear better than everyone else, who showed no mercy to others and lived very hypocritically.

I think that too many Christians conflate " Discernment" with " Judgement". They are similar but definitely not identical.

John 3:17 For God did not send the son into the world 🌎 to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved. If Jesus didn't come to condemn anyone I doubt 🧐 God sent me to condemn anyone either.

In my belief, for me, "righteous judgment" can be met with Jesus' words to the crowd wanting to stone a woman accused of adultery. "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." ***** I've had this question for awhile: Why do some Christians consider, or come across as considering, homosexuality a far worse crime than murder? Because for me, it is the opposite. If I'm gonna be judgy, that is.

We are flawed. We seek our own interests a majority of the time. So we are in no position to judge another. Salvation isnt something to be made exclusive its to be inclusive. The only judging we should be doing without beating ourselves up is how can i personally be a better follower of Christ Jesus. How can i help out the poor the sick the widowed the orphaned the stranger the imprisoned and my neighbors. I hear Christian say when they do something hypocritical oh God's still working on me. Well i personal try to to have that view for everyone. With humility comes empath. And with empathy comes compassion. And with compassion comes love.

Father Ed, your sound levels are coming off as low to me. Shout

Righteous judgment belongs to God. By appropriating God’s right to judge for yourself is to proclaim yourself equal to God, which condemns yourself, as Lucifer did. Am I on track here?

Turn up the volume on your videos just a tad. Thank you.

As your basic human being, how am I to be qualified to determine what's "righteous" if I'm just like everyone else? I don't have any special connection to the Presence that's unavailable to everyone else. That being the case, judgment is judgment, and I'm excluded from being allowed to do that. So, I make every effort to avoid that presumption. I'm still working on doing that correctly. (Sigh!)

Its so weird there is this unofficial yet ongoing competition for God's favor we feel is best attained by putting down others. I have no idea where it came from or where its taught but its such an unfortunately prevalent checkpoint people arrive at and make their final destination when we're all supposed to be in personal ongoing journeys that last our whole life. A list of do's and don'ts is such a shallow takeaway from the Bible but mayhaps I'll need to rephrase that so I don't come off as too judgy for those that reach such a conclusion xD

1 Corinthians 5:12 NLT: paul says “t isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.” Paul contradicts himself many times I noticed, and contradicts what Jesus taught quite a bit. I find the books that Paul wrote very confusing and not in line with what the rest of the Bible teaches.

Judge not lest ye be judged. What about righteous judgement? Did I stutter? Was I unclear?

Jesus (or those who wrote about him) was not consistent. He judged people; he modeled judgment of those who opposed his way, those he considered to be serious sinners (in contrast to the "loose and lovable sinners"). Focusing only on the times when he said not to judge is sweet, but incomplete. Righteous judgment in the Bible is using God's word to distinguish between right and wrong. Now, some people do misinterpret or misapply God's word in very significant ways, but it's literally impossible (and very undesirable) not to stand against evil, corruption, and oppression.

i used to be able to listen to you, but now even with the sound at the max, I can't hear you. I am a little deaf, but it is only your channel. I can hear other channels.

Doesn’t the Bible say if your brother does sinful things to take him aside privately to talk to him and correct him?

Even with Trump? Ugh I have trouble with that

"for as you judge, so will you be judged..." If you are going to expect people to adhere to rules from Leviticus without considering Christ's grace or cultural/historical context... well, you'd better be adhering to all those rules too. Own a poly-cotton shirt? Then you had better not be judging someone over who they love or how they dress or whether they attend church regularly. If you use the Law to judge, then you will be judged according to the Law. Discernment is healthy. Judgement is better left to Christ.

Righteous judgment reminds me of one up-man-ship .. that’s it..superiority complex

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. Deuteronomy 4:8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day? Deuteronomy 16:19 Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous. Deuteronomy 25:1 If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked. Exodus 22:21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt. Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. Deuteronomy 24:14 Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates: Deuteronomy 15:11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land. Psalm 12:5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. Psalm 35:10 All my bones shall say, Lord, who is like unto thee, which deliverest the poor from him that is too strong for him, yea, the poor and the needy from him that spoileth him? And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts. Malachi 3:5 There are many verses that speak of righteous judgment, and anyone considering themselves a believer, are to judge those in power according to Hashems' Word. We are to judge those in power and vote them in or out according to my Father's Word.

It is righteous to run a shelter for abused women and children. It is not righteous to abuse women and children. It is righteous to protect and comfort the poor and oppressed. It is not righteous to oppress or steal from the downtrodden. I do not need to be righteous to know the difference. I do not trust those who cannot (or refuse to) make such distinctions. Judgement and condemnation are NOT the same. Condemnation is a religious concept; judgement is not. Condemnation requires the presumption that one is not worthy of love, or God's love; judgement asserts that someone may not be worthy of our individual love - the world is big; everyone loves someone - we do not have to do it all. I am guilty of many "sins." I am not guilty of abusing women and children, or intentionally harming the poor, and neither are most people. It would be unintelligent (and potentially dangerous) to NOT distinguish between an abuser and someone who let's say, indulges in sloth. We should self-reflect and be humble. We should not be so self-obsessed, neurotic, or concerned with ourselves that we are unable to make distinctions regarding the impacts of other people's actions. We should forgive and avoid judgement regarding shortcomings and mistakes (especially when people admit to mistakes and/or work to heal the harm they cause). We should be less quick to reserve judgement or forgive those who feel no remorse for the serious harm they willingly inflict, and seek to do it again. Those of us who have experience with the sadistic, psychopathic or just plain cruel don't lose sleep over such 'judgements.'

I was quoted Judge not least ye be judged by my family. It was used excuse abuse. I was not to talk I'll of others as I saw them abuse myself and my brother. I have no right to exist. God will bring me to my end and send me to hell for my taunt blood. You can only judge yourself and I know I am unworthy.

Jesus says to NOT judge by outward appearance but a righteous judgement !!!! So, not by behavior but by His Grace. The only way any of us are righteous is to be found In Him, rightheous by faith, His faith, see Gal 2:16 &20 KJ. Anything else is legalism and God won't accept that but He has accepted the perfection of Christ and that is The Gospel.

Judgement is Judgement. Christ's Judgement for example the woman at the well was love, forgiveness and grace. At the cross where he was being executed. Same forgive them for they know not what they do. Am I wrong?

I don't disagree with this, but it's a tricky path to navigate when, for example, people aid and abet an ongoing genocide. I believe it is my job to pray for grace, mercy and peace for those people, but it's also my job to reveal truth and demand justice and liberation. Sometimes that needs to be done robustly, but it doesn't negate my genuine prayer for them.

I don't remember anything about "righteous judgment" with regard to condemnation. If anything, it's righteous if someone doesn't show love to others (heal the sick, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, welcome the stranger, etc.), not that we get to decide which of the many sins are "righteous." It seems that most of the things that the person's pastor relative says are "righteous" are things that *man* has decided are to be condemned. We don't condemn someone for eating shellfish, which is also an "abomination", but they use it for "people not like them" (such as homosexuals.)

Ok. In the letters to the churches in Rev., Jesus, the Son of God, did not call on churches to throw out “Jezebel”. He didn’t judge the elders for allowing this woman to lead many astray. He said He would punish her,and her “children”. He is “the One who searches minds and hearts, and will repay each of you according to your deeds.” It seems every Christian is responsible for their beliefs and resulting deeds. Jesus is responsible for taking care of His church.

Overruled. Double stamped. No erasies.

Get to know yourself first. If some people were harassing a homeless man I would stop them then I would help the homeless man. It is simple forbid the bad and do good as you can. And encourage the others to try harder. We can have courts that follow universal law. How many times I have been condemned to burning in hell ( from Christians not Jews ) since I reverted to Islam is amazing but there is hope. Two pastors recently came to my shop listened to why I prefer Islam and did not condemn me . The first said I wish my congregation would take it as seriously as you do. I say if a prophet of God said something it is upon us to hear and obey. That being said I am far from perfect as we all are but thankful to be a work in progress. So Encourage Good and Forbid Evil either buy action or gentle speech preferably. Be wise as serpents but as GENTLE as doves maybe?