Butch Hartman and Character Design

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*PLEASE READ!!*
I've seen quite a few comments about the color wheel I used not being a 'real color wheel' or some such, and I wanted to comment on it here, as I should have within the video.
I'm using a CMYK (cyan, magenta, yellow, key/black) color wheel in the video, as there is a lot of evidence to point towards it being a much more useful and 'true' color wheel for artists, over the traditional RGB (red, green, blue) color wheel. It's also the color wheel Valve uses in their write-up I've linked, as well as the color wheel used in Clip Studio Paint (what I use), Photoshop, and Procreate, among, I'm sure, many other programs. CMYK is, in my opinion (and many others'), a far more useful and aesthetically pleasing color wheel than RGB.
Here's some further reading, if you're interested:
www.ecgprod.com/everything-yo...
johnmuirlaws.com/color-theory/
• Colour Theory: The Tru... (a good, short video about it)
Also sidenote, because I've seen it mentioned as well, I did not design the character that I'm painting LOL, he is a character from Danny Phantom - specifically Clockwork -- and I was doing the piece for a friend. :) When I first made this video I was not expecting it to blow up the way it has -- I assumed it would stay mostly within the Danny Phantom fandom, and thus didn't feel a need to specify the details! Yes, his design is quite clunky! No, it is not my fault!
Thanks, yall :)
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Join me as I travel down the small rabbit-hole of why Butch Hartman is a bad character designer, and maybe we will learn something together
Thanks to Stove for letting me feature their fantastic Flynn redesign!
Clockwork painting timelapse in the background is mine, because I....... I just...... didn't know what else to put in those shots lol
Also sorry for the wonky editing in some bits, I literally had never touched a video editing program before this
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Screencaps from Butch's video were taken from Lurking's summarization: currentlylurking.tumblr.com/p...
Stove's amazing Flynn redesign: the-stove-is-on-fire.tumblr.c...
My tumblr: / skellagirl
Valve's incredible DOTA2 write-up: support.steampowered.com/kb/9...

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@artichokedip5761 3 года назад

the way Danny is posed with his gauntlet shooting into the air actually leads the eye off the page and for that I actually have to thank him

@bett1826 3 года назад

LMAOO

@asher-360 3 года назад

This comment deserves 1k likes

@Embertuft 3 года назад

I wheezed lmao

@weetdoog 3 года назад

LOOOL

@GoroAkechi_Real 3 года назад

Pro tip: If your art sucks, just make the viewer look away!

@inkybunny_8416 3 года назад

"it's because someone competent chose Maddie's color scheme for a reason." sassy professional artist destroys local cartoon creator for awful character design

@Rozdlc 3 года назад

You know, I was expecting her to bring up Jazz, but Maddie works too XD

@Impalingthorn 3 года назад

For some reason right as I started reading through this comment, it was right when she addressed it in video seconds later.

@kiricappuchin 3 года назад

with FACTS and LOGIC

@brainimpediment 3 года назад

Butch's art looks like it gets spraypainted on T-Shirts at festivals.

@stupidass69420 3 года назад

THANK YOU MISTA

@mangledfoxy2052 3 года назад

Hey, that’s offensive to the spray painters. At least they put some effort in. Butch put none

@bnuuuyy 3 года назад

@@mangledfoxy2052 bro I've met 9 year olds that draw better then him😔😔 it's a insult to anyone that you compare him to

@prophetofpants1906 3 года назад

His art is scarier than the number 4, wouldn’t you agree Mista?

@RyuuToon 3 года назад

Damn hahaha

@leejrjr2583 3 года назад

he practiced his autograph more than his actual art

@ikeasotbarnslig5228 3 года назад

Underrated comment lmao- Edit: I'm proud to see how far this comment has come :)

@stevenharper9108 3 года назад

I wonder if he traces it.

@faustaseporaityte4870 2 года назад

It’s like his pride and joy more then his vomit paintings

@icewingdragon3297 2 года назад

@@stevenharper9108 most likely yes since look up silver's signature he even copied it as well

@benfletcher8100 2 года назад

Probably thinks the autograph is the actual worthwhile part of his art

@leavemealone802 3 года назад

Everyone that consumes art can tell if something looks like shit. But a professional will tell you 'Why it looks like shit' in many details

@jameson8943 3 года назад

that's a big thing about creative stuff. Anyone can go "huh this music is weird" but a professional musician can explain why it sounds weird. same will art, dance, cooking, and most creative media, hell, most everything

@jameson8943 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art first of all anyone who's profession is art is a professional artist. two, I agree. he's not very professional in the traditional sense. Three, I also agree that he is not an artist who follows any sort of art theory of any sort. four, IDK if you believe this but I don't think he's good are art, I think his art is bad. nothing about my comment was meant to say contrary. I was just saying that well-trained people SHOULD be able to pick out and better explain the stuff they're trained in.

@ThiccFish 3 года назад

A professionals job is to look at what is done correctly, and give constructive ideas of how to improve and why. That's the difference between destructive and constructive thought, and critique.

@ThiccFish 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art This is true, but I'd like to add I think that it's good to help confidence building as a teacher, you need to say I like X, Y is excellent you did this well, here is what I would've done and why. In my opinion the reinforcement of improving in any skill helps people stick to it.

@nerdstorma8427 3 года назад

You say that but I see way too many people sympathizing with the Tumblr/Calarts/SJW artstyle. Not only is it ugly to look at but it spreads like a virus and anytime it gets criticized, they just reply with "just let people draw what they want"

@maybelater2160 3 года назад

He really likes green, but like the worst, most oversaturated shade of green. On everything. Thats the problem if you insist on green in complex designs just make it less... just less.

@ClockworkCrusader 3 года назад

Reminds me of vivziepop with yellow and pink. And liefeld with reds and blues. Idk why they like to stick to certain color pallets. Though I like liefelds are he tend to draw the same stuff. And I like todd mcfarlane better.

@gars129 3 года назад

So basically Butch is a 50 something Scene Kid

@kiroakimada2775 3 года назад

So butch is a scout main.

@Zeronigel332 3 года назад

@@ClockworkCrusader well I can understand Viziepop colors, they usually just pleasing to the eyes.

@ClockworkCrusader 3 года назад

@@Zeronigel332 yes, but it's every single drawing.

@cherrycordiaI 3 года назад

Chad Stephen Silver: Appealing, iconic character designs. Encourages artists of all ages and levels to create. Humble yet extremely skilled. Built his career on hard work and genuine skill. Speaks compassionately about mental health and lifestyle. Wonderful teacher. Virgin Butch Hartman: Ugly, wonky art. Coasts off of his undeserved reputation and little else. Traces anime promo art for commissions. Ego larger than the diameter of the planet Jupiter. Speaks condescendingly to anyone he thinks is 'beneath' him. Born-again Christian who puts himself on a pedestal for his faith. Joked about a former colleague's suicide.

@Lucifer-vb8gd 3 года назад

Honestly I don't know an artist who has enormous ego and is good at the same time. I mean, some of artist have well built healthy egos and believe in themselves and some are less confident, but artists with potenti are naturally critical of their work, which makes them improve. At least I think so, from my observations, and counting myself in (even tho I often overcritisize and tear my art down). With big ass ego you don't see a reason to improve, and that's exactly why Butch doesn't improve. At least I think.

@lamplol7120 3 года назад

@@Lucifer-vb8gd I was going to say that I’m a good artist with a big ego... But then I got what ur saying so I’m taking it back lmao

@Lucifer-vb8gd 3 года назад

@@lamplol7120 Damn I need to explain myself better in english lmfao

@lamplol7120 3 года назад

@@Lucifer-vb8gd what noooo ur good I’m just stupid lol

@Doritos-ik5eu 3 года назад

Thad Tetsuya Nomura: Recycles characters with tons of belts, no one complains except for virgins.

@judomoon8893 3 года назад

Butch‘s art be looking like those "How to Draw Anime“ Books

@noodlepoodle3582 3 года назад

So THAT’S why they make us paint in monochrome first in my painting class!! They were subconsciously teaching us values!

@DonVigaDeFierro 3 года назад

Values > Colors all the way. In fact, there's a video out there by Marco Bucci (Or was it Mark Brunet??) That basically proves that color choice doesn't really matter as long as the values are consistent.

@Jack_Woods 3 года назад

That's why Manga is first made in monochrome and then gets colored

@artbyatticus3001 3 года назад

@@Jack_Woods Actually most manga is made in monochrome using screentones to save time and printing money because chapters are released on a weekly basis. The coloured pages usually just have lots of planning sketches and ideas which is why they are so good to look at.

@yaboinoodle6878 3 года назад

I was thinking this

@giovannigiovanni.7220 3 года назад

@@DonVigaDeFierro Checkout my Danny Phantom Title Card: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FiH3bis2TuY.html

@belfriet694 3 года назад

He designs characters like a late 80s d-list superhero comic that's trying desperately to be the next cool™ antihero

@gooseypuckoosey 3 года назад

It's like he tried to incorporate every sterotypical bad guy color palette into one singular character.

@silverish9081 3 года назад

Black, acid green, Maleficent purple and R E D. All really nice 'bad guy' colours, but really an eyesore when combined together.

@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Год назад

Beast Wars’s Tarantulas made 3/4 of those colors work, but he’s at least got the restraint to tone down the vibrancy of the green and avoid red entirely.

@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard 5 месяцев назад

Like Finn said, value is the real savior, it's not that "these colors can never go well together", more so "these colors with these values rarely work together specially so saturated and in so much quantity"

@Marispider 3 года назад

to anyone confused about why she called the lips "minstrel," since it wasn't a main point and she moved past it quickly: it's not that they're full, it's that there's no separation between them. one of the core features of minstrel caricatures are the lips being connected into one big blob - it ends up making the lips look more like an animal's than a human's. i'm gonna safely assume this was NOT what butch meant his art to look like, i seriously doubt he had any ill intentions with this, but it's still something to point out as poor character design

@blvvdy.kisses 3 года назад

Ngl I'm black and I was confused about that so thanks.

@2bagels1toaster18 3 года назад

I have a darker skin character with pink as her main color so I have made her eyes, clothes, and even hair pink with it going from a black to pink ombré. Also with this have also given her pastel pink lipstick as well, is that racist or am I good on that? I really don’t want to offend anyone and I’m scared it will be taken the wrong way, am I okay on that part or do you think I should change it?

@blvvdy.kisses 3 года назад

@@2bagels1toaster18 As long as the lip shape is natural not too big and defined you should be good.

@ThexDynastxQueen 3 года назад

Don't know the Dan Phantom series so who is the Spider Lady?

@user-in1gv1uh2v 3 года назад

Yeah I was confused why she would mention the lips possibly being racist. Seemed like a weak point tbh.

@Wixi-2000 3 года назад

Whenever I feel down about my choices when designing a character, I look at Butch's drawings and tell myself "At least I don't still draw like an edgy middle schooler who calls everyone an idiot for critiquing their art"

@cartoonhippie6610 3 года назад

When ur family claims to support you but they don't even wear ur logo all over their bodies 😔

@maymay5600 3 года назад

damn

@notazula 3 года назад

id leave them

@LeGoodMusica23 3 года назад

Yeah...

@theteethburglar4716 3 года назад

What if you kissed me while wearing my logo all over your body... haha jk... unless😳😳😳

@Jazker_da_thief 3 года назад

@@theteethburglar4716 😳👉👈

@stealthguy7249 3 года назад

why does butches stuff always look like something off deviant art

@BinglesP 3 года назад

To be fair DeviantArt has all types of skill levels so it’s bound to remind you of some of the art there I know what you meant, just that the reminiscence is vague enough, probably

@StarlightPrism 3 года назад

Over-designing characters is a pretty common problem for beginner artists.

@lera2219 3 года назад

Man, that's insulting to DeviantArt. At least some people on there sometimes know what they're doing

@nole8146 Месяц назад

Bc Stephen Sliver was in charge of the character design. Even tho fairy odd parents and DP have similar art style it's the approach to the coloring, body language, and animation that makes them different which Butch didn't master

@zachmanf.7479 3 года назад

Butch's character design reminds me of that era of comic books where all the heroes had to be muscular and edgy.

@darealepic 2 года назад

1994-2007 comics lol

@kazimrittika783 2 года назад

Lol,accurate!

@tuuperasus4202 Год назад

Also the amateur kinda coloring kinda gives off the same vibe to the 90's comics. because back then digital art was so new that the coloring (or anything in it really) wasn't fully utilized to the fullest extent. so alot of people just put in flat colors, add in black for shading, white highlights and maybe use gradients and the airbrush tool and call it a day. And this went on til the early to mid 2000's when people had a better grasp of digital coloring.

@superherochestsymbol1032 Год назад

Comics from back in the day, and even now at least had fun designs and silly stories, but Butch just throws whatever at the wall.

@anotherrightbrained2225 Год назад

@@tuuperasus4202 Ugh why this is so true lol

@skyty0 3 года назад

Butch drawing adult characters: man is LARGE and BIG and MUSCLE

@KhayJayArt 3 года назад

Lady have BIG THIGHS

@marmar3530 3 года назад

His anatomy is so odd

@3kojimbles895 3 года назад

@@KhayJayArt no complaint on thighs tho

@PotaraP 3 года назад

@@KhayJayArt AWOOGA AWOOGA

@creativepop8196 3 года назад

You haven't seen JoJo's

@nagtrimers1250 3 года назад

shout out to when he traced for a 300 dollar commission

@Fisinocean 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art i only learn to draw seriously for about 4-5 years now, and like-hell yes i agree. Sure, i get why you trace if you were super young and new to the arts BUT LIKE???? PROFFESIONAL 300$ ART? _REALLY??_ GODDAMN HAVE A CLASS PLEASE

@Trid3nt861 3 года назад

Wait let me get this straight.......... So Butch is charging $300.00 plus sales tax for a drawing...... that was traced off another persons artwork? I honestly have no words to describe the disgust I have......... As a self-taught artist of 16 years who never went to art college and basically drew a crapton for years, Butch makes me sick.....

@chasemorr4110 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art really seems like your trying to advertise for your commissions. I dunno tho, your point about Butch still stands tho.

@AlphaTengua 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art And if you're gonna trace do it over real life images , preferably ones you took or were given permissions too, or the how to draw books or bases and stuff, that's what they're for....lol. but ONLy for nonprofit personal free practice, to help train muscle memory or something and u should NEVER rely on it. its so weird we were demanded we trace when we were kids....my art teacher basically forced me. i hated it... it made me feel like she was saying I wasn't "good enough" when I was just a kid -_.'

@Minnow39 3 года назад

he did it again lmao

@spinejackel 3 года назад

“if you can reduce your art to black and white, and it still looks readable. that art has strong and good values” [exhales a HUGE sigh of relief at my own character designs] oh thank god, i’m doing something right

@Plant_btw Год назад

Thank GOD I made 90% of my ocs without color

@an0nym0us_slash35 Год назад

I am so glad that i only have a couple OCs that are a bit unreadable but they're all wearing tactical gear and muted colours, so makes sense for em to blend into the BG

@BigRedSocks 3 года назад

The fact that butch had made it so far in the art industry with a skill level that i have surpassed already, gives me a lot of hope

@JohnBrown-ox8pl 3 года назад

Tell me about it My inspirations were Sticking around and Turbo teen....look at those Yenny and ANYONE can make it in the industry!!!!

@ender5892 3 года назад

I mean, it's probably because he is white, a man and Christian. He is as privileged as someone can get. I can't imagine a woman drawing this way or a poc drawing this way without hearing any racist or misoginistic stuff about how untalented women and poc are.

@borderlines8021 2 года назад

@@ender5892 I don't think he's an actual christian I think he just uses it

@professornova1236 2 года назад

@@ender5892 this ain't got nothing to do with race or gender

@banjofangirl3458 2 года назад

@@borderlines8021 still uses the label, gives him privilege either way

@hunkymccree8458 3 года назад

legit, when you got to the spider lady i was actually like "why cant i stop looking at that spot, i cant be that shameless" and you spelled it out perfectly

@AlphaTengua 3 года назад

its also kind of the middle of the picture in a way? :/...

@SpringDavid 3 года назад

@@AlphaTengua actually you are right, it's also on the middle of the screen

@soulangela7154 3 года назад

For me I was staring at the chest, the spiderlogo gave me more rest for some reason but still. So I either look at the chest or the crotch, good choice :/

@yonicorn1641 3 года назад

bro i didnt even want to look for a second at her head, it was so busy i was getting headaches.. I'd gladly stare at her crotch

@tundrasome9409 3 года назад

It's because Butch is too #Christian to add detail there. He didn't even want to draw a crotch, but he couldn't just leave a hole there. Mostly because that could also be interpreted as sexual.

@WiFi-qj5kr 3 года назад

I'm gonna just use Butch as a "don't do what Butch does" tutorial

@anib8863 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art Do you mind naming a few? I'm honestly curious.

@anib8863 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art Thank you!

@TheDBPhantom 3 года назад

Danny Phantom was how I taught myself how to draw as a kid, oh God oh geez oh fuck.

@KF22TV 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art yeah he doesn’t respect much outside of himself it seems smh

@charlottecroom5159 3 года назад

@@TheDBPhantom don't worry Butch wasn't the main character designer in the series.

@kivets 3 года назад

Someone said Butch's art style looks like a parody of his old art style, and now i see what they meant

@gracekim25 2 года назад

The ‘old art style’ isn’t his

@weetdoog 2 года назад

yeah as the other person said, the "old butch hartman style" doesnt really exist, its just stephen silvers so he probably always drew like this 😬😬

@YowLife 3 года назад

I've been animating and designing characters for over 6 years and I'm still learning new things. This video really helped clarify some character design ideas I didn't know, as well as reaffirm some ideas I already had. I swear this video alone has taught me more useful lessons than my first year of animation school.

@eddieweird 3 года назад

It's..... it's you the one who animated gamerz 6 years ago ahh the good ol days

@CrispyFrise 3 года назад

Same!

@DeadCrowBar 3 года назад

my art looks like sh*t right now but I can at least say I don’t draw like him

@tr4sh37 3 года назад

wow 6 years and your drawings are still bad... what a waste of time.

@CrispyFrise 3 года назад

@@tr4sh37 wow you must've pulled that statement right out of your ass huh, since it clealy looks like you don't know how art works

@Queen_Of_Discord 3 года назад

Okay but why does he color skin with a saturated orange/yellow, it’s such an ugly choice and it bothers me so much

@bluefalcon6356 3 года назад

He colors the faces with orange and yellow, and then scribbles a background in a random color.

@bluefalcon6356 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art the difference is, simpsons can use yellow highlights, because the characters have yellow skin, butch has characters with regular skin colors and yellow highlights, makes no sense.

@RC.- 3 года назад

Butch has no sense of colour theory. Everything is bright and clashes together. His backgrounds looks like he used the airbrush tool and sprayed whatever colour he can find. How this guy worked for Nickelodeon is beyond me

@malena111 3 года назад

all his color choices are bad honestly

@Rekter 3 года назад

@@RC.- The best part of his drawings is his signature, because at least that looks good.

@kpoptosis3667 3 года назад

if you showed me Butch's artwork without telling me who made it, I would probably mistake it for my old deviant art page.

@beywheelzhater8930 3 года назад

If you ever feel bad about your art *Remember Butch exists and that you have already advanced beyond him*

@HezrouDhiaga 3 года назад

Honestly when I saw his shitty 200 dollar commissions I legit didn't even think of him. I thought it was some 14 yr old's fanart. Someone out there went out of his way to redraw the commissions in his old style and captured it better than butch does lmao

@HezrouDhiaga 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art imagine being Butch Hartman and think you actually have 200$ level quality and not get caught tracing every single one of them. XD

@beywheelzhater8930 3 года назад

@@HezrouDhiaga actually that old style wasn't Butch's, he didn't animate his shows.

@an0nym0us_slash35 3 года назад

@@HezrouDhiaga fam I've seen 14yos that draw better than him

@aptalsandvic5355 Год назад

The spider lady design is so, so unintentionally funny i canot take it. She has a literal freaking spider on her chest, on her head, on her staff and as if it's not enough she has a spider web cape. She could have just had the cape, or just have 8 eyes, why is she so literal. Also as if the painfully on the nose spider theme is not enough, she is colored with red, purple, green and black. All the ''villain'' colors. Not one, not two, but ALL OF THEM. I can't handle this design. I can't.

@alwayssonnie 3 года назад

I guess Butch never heard of "you don't need to be a pilot to know what a plane crash looks like"

@Sirvaria 3 года назад

Or even "you dont need to be a cook to know the soup tastes like shit"

@mysryuza 2 года назад

@@Sirvaria More like you don’t need to be a doctor or cook to know what you ate made you sick. You don’t need to be a scientist or cook to know whether or not a piece meat is safe to eat when it has grey patches

@naqibdaik7241 Год назад

or even "you didn't need to be a writer to know the story is shit".

@libraeevee9467 Год назад

@@naqibdaik7241 or a ‘You don’t need to be a professor to know everything’

@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard 5 месяцев назад

I dont know from where i heard this but "Sometimes, an archeologist doesn't know how to cook a good steak"

@sephiriza 3 года назад

I'm looking at this lineart and can't understand how this guy had a job...

@purplelily2608 3 года назад

It's important to know he didn't do the main character art or really any of the art outside of maybe concept art. I'm currently studying game design and have been told by professors that you don't need to be a master artist to be a concept artist. You really only need to be able to get your concept across. His main job was writing the stories and coming up with the concepts of his stories.

@sephiriza 3 года назад

@@purplelily2608 I understand that but he's been doing art in some form for a while, I assume, and his youtube channel gives viewers an association of him as an artist. Not to mention he took pricey commissions that looked... well, not better than examples in this video.

@constantlykianna3685 3 года назад

I've heard someone say that's because it's easy to replicate. I've never been great at art, but I remember being little and copying his style fairly easily. Must make it easy to hire artists and merch designers and such since they don't have to work with something too difficult.

@jasminejacobs6862 3 года назад

@@constantlykianna3685 I like his cartoon cool book, when I was in elementary I loved it- despite some of the weirder paragraphs about how to make a teenager girl face look "sexy", and him telling me funny/goofy eyed characters don't look "sexy" Otherwise I like his style, I'm mediocre too but he really emulates simple old school and comic books 2000s cartoons went from retro (head variety for main characters) to bubble cheek head for most cartoons now.... I don't hold cartoons to realism standards. He probably got ahead in his career how so many youtubers do now, connections. Now hopefully you all understand, talent has little to do with it

@iwakeupandboomimarat 3 года назад

there was someone else who did a LOT more art on his old nick shows, i cant remember the guys name but he basically deserves all of the credit for making butchs shows look so iconic

@rodanandme 3 года назад

at my art school, one of the professors has done a lot of work on cartoons and describes Butch as "one of the biggest nightmares in the cartooning industry to work with" alongside Jhonen Vasquez

@plaguedfrost1753 3 года назад

Why Vasquez...?

@SPOOPINATURAL 3 года назад

vasquez?

@animeotaku307 3 года назад

@@SPOOPINATURAL Creator of Invader Zim

@SPOOPINATURAL 3 года назад

@LegalAssassin i’m aware, just confused as to why he’s being described like that

@rodanandme 3 года назад

dont wanna go into specifics, and my professor does respect the work Vasquez did with Invader Zim quite a bit, but he has apparently been late to a lot of things and when he does arrive, he is always surrounded by a circle of 20 year old women at every moment, apparently he has this kind of faux rockstar kind of vibe or at least he did when my professor was working with him

@mysryuza 2 года назад

If you feel annoyed with how VivziePop does pink and red a lot, you’d be surprised with how Butch does his green

@izachi-chan2432 2 года назад

Honestly I think Vivziepop works a lot better with these colors than butch and his eye soring green

@mr3rr0r15 3 месяца назад

I have mixed feelings about Vivziepop as well as her writing, Anatomy on certain characters and other things she did, but I'm convinced that Vivzie can make a better design that Butch can

@CassaliaRockz 2 дня назад

I knew I was going to see a vivzie comment under here

@teclinsoro4523 3 года назад

8:33 the switch from stephen’s actually good art to butch’s monstrosity was so jarring i had to pause and compose myself

@effeffiagonalick5078 3 года назад

I know you glossed over the anatomy portion but can we just talk about how gross the hair he draws looks? Grown-up Danny looks like he has a clump of cobwebs on his head. I'm not the best at drawing hair either, but a big difference between me and Butch is that I'm not a professional with 20-30+ years of experience under my belt. Also great video and I'll definitely be saving it and coming back to it later the next time I need to color something!

@animeotaku307 3 года назад

And what’s up with his belt buckle? It looks so off I thought it was supposed to be a cod piece.

@itsjustvin7630 3 года назад

What about in this design images.app.goo.gl/M6kGL3VXBWP1mN3U8

@Flareontoast 3 года назад

Yeah his hair is really bad. It's not even like stylized it's more of a scribble without thought behind it

@WackuJacku 3 года назад

@@itsjustvin7630 That's quite nice in my opinion but that's also not Butch Hartman so I don't really see how it's relevant.

@itsjustvin7630 3 года назад

@@WackuJacku that it's less a design choice and moreso on who has the better art style. Alot of the bad concept drawings butch does looks better when someone actually draws them in the shows art style. Tho I dont think theres any saving to the ghosts design like Ember and Skulker (like did butch forget Skulker was a mechanical suit?)

@FabbrizioPlays 3 года назад

At this point I'm gonna start calling Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom "Stephen Silver" shows, rather than "Butch Hartman" shows. Hartman may get his name on the end-card but it's Stephen who carried the weight.

@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 3 года назад

You could say the later seasons of Fairly Oddparents is a 'Butch Hartman' cartoon, particularly 9 and 10.

@Angel-rr9il 3 года назад

HONESTLY

@wanderingsoul881 3 года назад

I'm pretty sure that the only reason Butch keeps using that neon snot green is because it was one of Danny Phantom's (the show) signature colors and he's trying his hardest to stay relevant by keeping a tight fist on that particular straw like, "Hey I'm the guy who made Danny Phantom! It's me! Wanna watch more of my stuff?"

@broadwayaddict6665 3 года назад

you’re roasting Butch Hartman’s “artistry” in the most professional way possible AND you brought up several design points that helped me improve my own character design, so thank you!

@AikamieliArt 3 года назад

I BEG of you to make a video on how to design characters, this video is a gateway drug.

@SpecialInterestShow 3 года назад

Damn he got you so pissed off that you posted for the first time in 4 years just to tear him down. What a power move

@LadiesHideYourMans 3 года назад

what a chad

@hawwaiipizzabad6793 3 года назад

@@LadiesHideYourMans fortnite

@seauqis 3 года назад

Its like that one lady who was so pissed at the mulan 2020 movie she created a whole ass channel just to critique it

@SpecialInterestShow 3 года назад

@@seauqis the chaos! reminds me of the dude who had a channel for like 10 yrs then just suddenly posted the SpongeBob Skin Theory. What possessed the guy.

@seauqis 3 года назад

@@SpecialInterestShow that video made me question my sanity tbh

@redshamrock5670 3 года назад

My art might be bad for someone my age, but at least my characters don’t have gross looking yellowy-orange skin.

@oninaru 3 года назад

I really start to think reason to that is that whatever device he is using is not calibratred and to him they look normal.

@mothhuuny 3 года назад

Donald trump lookin asses lmao

@ruchick6155 3 года назад

I feel like I can imitate him online and get away with it

@l.l.2046 3 года назад

@Conn Lucifer Probably, if they have a very good understanding of colour

@varianmetcalf8220 3 года назад

@Conn Lucifer I mean making a gross character that looks gross that works

@kaythetoon 3 года назад

As an aspiring 14 year old artist, I do often have moments where I feel like my art isn't that good, but Butch's art immediately makes me feel better about mine. Thank you for the great tips and I hope they'll help me improve! 😁

@damienhelms3249 3 года назад

"Calming black sea of crotch." That's one for the quote book! It would be interesting to see what you would have done differently with Missery Vex and how much you would change. (It would be a lot we all know! lmao)

@tayaseagrave7926 3 года назад

She did on her Tumblr! skellagirl.tumblr.com/post/637428207976579072/my-attempt-at-redesigning-misery-vex-aka-hot

@queersaint 3 года назад

I think I was a bit swept up in the hype the phandom was going through when that vid came out lmao, and I think I could probably do better now honestly! Thanks for linking! :)

@abbysol5812 3 года назад

@@queersaint I really like your design but also would love you to check out the design that Capcom had for the armor in their Monster Hunter Rise - Charge Blade video, I think they handled the idea of a spider silk cloak extremely well in that design, for an interesting comparison on a similar concept.

@mysryuza 3 года назад

The black sea of THICC

@orionbelt4013 3 года назад

@@queersaint ofc I like your style

@pikachuneoncat6480 3 года назад

I feel like in recent years Butch Hartman has sort of become the Ben Shapiro of the art community.

@Mae_Dastardly 3 года назад

Genius comparison

@pikachuneoncat6480 3 года назад

@@Mae_Dastardly Thank you.

@jomanahhassan3854 3 года назад

That... literally sums up everything omg

@liaminator4950 3 года назад

,,,,yeah that checks out

@samuelb3121 3 года назад

I don't get the comparison.

@matorihoji 3 года назад

The way Butch does his lineart is quite similar to mine, and it's concerning considering I have a total of about 8 hours of digital art experience under my belt

@maplewing_ 3 года назад

This video is not only super detailed but its chock-full of REALLY good character design tips and information, so I wanted to make some timestaps for reference! 3:04 PART ONE: General Design 9:42 PART TWO: Color 15:13 PART THREE: Value

@libraeevee9467 2 года назад

Why thank you on the timestamps

@casp_rr 3 года назад

Not only was it extremely satisfying to hear butch torn down like that, but I also learned a lot about character design. Great video 👍

@orionbelt4013 3 года назад

Same, it's also very informative to hear more about the importance of color. I'm self taught and partially color blind myself, so this is extremely helpful.

@orionbelt4013 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art true true, besides I know nothing about anything and I just wing it.lkk I do what feels right.

@katziliaf 3 года назад

I so agree! I noticed that I have made several mistakes Butch made on my own design! I never learned about lines, or value -and that having been to an art school + having an artist as a parent? Man do I feel cheated!

@seblorkhan2618 3 года назад

Butch isnt even good. The character designer is the one who deserves the praise

@febe1895 3 года назад

Same here I’m trying to be a better artist

@NovaNocturneArt 3 года назад

I feel like this is a prime example of the "Learn the rules of art before you break them" trope. It doesn't seem that BH actually learned ANY art rules but now goes around touting himself as some sort of idol amongst plebian artists.

@LizzieShiro 3 года назад

His ego actually got him blacklisted from a few studios... His name is like a curse word in some offices.

@poopsytheduck864 3 года назад

@@LizzieShiro Very interesting. *Adding it to “personal sociology, psychology & basic behaviors book”.

@Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 года назад

LizzieShiro Lmao that’s what he gets for acting like God’s gift to the entertainment industry. My man Steve is the REAL maker of our childhoods.

@MK_ULTRA420 3 года назад

@@LizzieShiro "You're being such a BUTCH right now!" 😂😂😂

@mikemorro140 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art I feel as though saying stuff like that makes you no better than him

@ari-ll9tj 3 года назад

8:11 “Buttons for cool stuff” Man I respect that

@deaththekiddeath6093 3 года назад

As an artist who does really bright neon art there is a certain way to do it without it looking ugly and butch doesn't seem to know how to do that it's all about matching certain colors I seen many artists who use neon colors to make beautiful pieces of art

@user-xm4gl2bg7q 2 дня назад

I luv ur pfp

@emmareiman64 3 года назад

Me: "Mmm, yes, uhuh, keep talking, this is interesting, go ahead, yes, yes" as I listen intensely while I look at my own designs on the side and drag them into a program to make them greyscale etc. to see if I've done XYZ and constantly find myself pleasantly surprised

@Onlytoview1 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art it’s pretty funny you say it like that. I consider myself someone who loves art and does it but isn’t very good. But I know my art is atleast art because people’s eyes don’t hurt when they see it lol

@mangledfoxy2052 3 года назад

Sometimes I wonder if he was trying to make his art look that bad because I refuse to believe a man who’s had that much industry experience doesn’t understand those basic concepts

@prosperosmoon 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art Your art is so cute!

@imjustgr8 3 года назад

honestly same- -i'm still not even super 100% sure if everything i did was right or wrong and it's driving me paranoid lmao--

@cartooncottage2024 3 года назад

Same.

@hannatglicksman3162 3 года назад

I've been making art for about 18 years and I've always been absolute shit with colors. I've seen tutorial after tutorial about color theory and why to use particular schemes, but this is the best explanation I've ever seen of why it matters, and such a clear visual example (contrasting Hartman vs stove's designs of flynn)

@NIGHTMARE-kk6oi 3 года назад

Butch’s art lately is so good I would put it on my trash can

@thatnerd7351 3 года назад

I feel better about my art now

@giovannigiovanni.7220 3 года назад

@@thatnerd7351 Misery Vex: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hp-Nr5Ogb7A.html

@DONNY_G1028 3 года назад

Or we can say he BUTCHers the designs. I'll see myself out

@pranavghantasala6808 3 года назад

Really breaks my Hartman Where did those torches and pitchforks come from

@purpation3408 2 года назад

This joke make's me wanna BUTCH myself. Welp I feel Disappointed in myself.

@Chichi0013 2 года назад

Stayyyyyy

@No.NotAgain Год назад

@@pranavghantasala6808 Run, for they only have one wish, that being to BUTCHer you Okay jokes arn't funny when repeated I'll see myself out the doooorrrr

@thomaszloi9444 3 года назад

Can we talk about that Butch wasn't even involved in art or writing of Danny Phantom. Why he thinks he is the only one who created everything good about DP

@animeotaku307 3 года назад

That's my thought. He keeps saying he "made your childhood," but aside from concept and storyboarding (which is the bare skeleton of the show), other people created what was more memorable about it, both how the story and characters went and how they looked.

@pomfpomf 3 года назад

It’s sad that it’s just seen as another Butch cartoon. Like I always thought he designed the characters because of the fact that he tries to plaster his name,all over these shows. Feel sad for the people who actually deserve the credit like Silver

@Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 года назад

Steve was the guy who made our childhoods. Not only did he design the characters for Kim Possible (one of my favourite Disney cartoons of all time), but he also designed the characters for and did the majority of writing for Danny Phantom. And the Ghost designs ROCK in that show. Shoutout to my dude Skulker: his design screams “Cool Bounty Hunter”.

@whatthehell8418 3 года назад

i’ve heard he was more involved in the third season, which was ironically the worst one

@Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 года назад

@@whatthehell8418 That was also the season when Steve was kicked from the show over 'creative differences'. I think we all know what's happened here...

@jaguarenduda 3 года назад

it felt like mercy when you turned his drawings black and white and spared me from looking at those hideous colors again

@TheClockworkgal 3 года назад

You can really distinguish the priorities of an artist when they seem to spend more time on their signature than their actual work.

@yeethittter1285 3 года назад

His art looks like he got all his knoeledge from a "how to draw manga" book

@JazzonAA 3 года назад

The funny thing is that Stephen Silver doesn't even care about Danny Phantom that much because he's an actual prolific artist and keeps doing incredible art.

@donaldyoungberg3235 3 года назад

I'm not a professional artist, more of a hobbyist, I guess. But your insight on value, clutter, and saturation has really helped me. I love your art, by the way.

@whothatanthony3861 3 года назад

Lamo

@Fisinocean 3 года назад

I'm kinda a beginner at art, i only seriously learnkng about art for about 4-6 years (?) And FRICK IT HELPS

@donaldyoungberg3235 3 года назад

@@whothatanthony3861 ?

@alchemistghost8329 3 года назад

I honestly would have never realized that was supposed to be Jazz if you hadn't said that's her there's nothing that connects her 10 years later design to her og look in the show

@elemenopi9239 3 года назад

5:15 misery vex’s hand looks like she just left kindergarten after finger painting

@terrysyvertson9205 3 года назад

the character and art designer for danny phantom was Stephen Silver, butch obviously gave up on copying Stephen Silver's artstyle

@Mace2.0 3 года назад

Me: Draws a simple cute bunny girl with white & shades of blue Butch: *G R E E N*

@DonVigaDeFierro 3 года назад

But not just green. Ｎｕｃｌｅａｒｇｒｅｅｎ．

@ochielaraya 3 года назад

And this my friends is why green is not a very creative color.

@trickytrilobite 3 года назад

I was at an online talk with Stephen Silver last September, and he explained that he ended up changing his initial designs for Danny Phantom because “Butch wanted it to look more like the FairlyOdd Parents”. This is what happens when you’re so hell bent on having a style that you never let it change once you’ve made something work in a specific way and don’t accept crit or suggestions from any other artists. (Judging by the contents of this video, it’s thanks to Stephen Silver that the designs in Danny Phantom were cohesive at all)

@ZigealFaust 3 года назад

It's so bizzare growing up watching his shows and now being better at art than him. Like... I feel like a Robin who had to watch his Batman slowly turn into the Joker.

@RandoSando. 3 года назад

Could watch an entire series of you fixing Butch's art. His designs hurt my eyes so much. Seeing you fix his art was healed the pain

@saltybutter9874 3 года назад

His cell shading is just.... **shiver**

@crabstronaut9395 3 года назад

even worse than mine smh

@jordobuppo 2 года назад

Black person here. There's nothing minstrel about those lips. Shape and the overall character design/coloring matters. Just because they dont separate in the corners, doesn't make them minstrel. Appreciate the "concern" though, i guess.

@owllad8459 2 года назад

It's was a stretch for sure.

@KevinIsGhoulish 3 года назад

Every time I doubt that my dream of becoming a successful artist with like two animated series, I look at Butch Hartman and think "if THIS GUY made it, I WILL make it"

@buttercookies2265 3 года назад

Butch’s art looks like one of those create your own manga books you had in middle school

@user-mw8er6dp6m 3 года назад

Nah even those can do better than him 🤡

@KRMurdy 3 года назад

Stephen Silver came to my local Museum and I got to talk with him. He is a delight to talk to and a very humble person. His signed image of his KP character designs is a prized possession of mine (he signed it with his name and a little doodle of Rufus). His lecture was incredibly informative and fun.

@hagelgevaret5174 2 года назад

I never want to see that shade of green again now

@Awesome_Pichu 3 года назад

A lot of Butch's artwork feels like an assault on the eyes

@thebaker525 3 года назад

I think it would be interesting to see Butch’s art laid directly against what is really obviously his biggest influence: Jack Kirby. Especially because Kirby’s art itself provides an excellent view into how to balance incredible complexity and easy readability, as well as the importance of value and line weight.

@banjofangirl3458 3 года назад

Kirby???? You mean Sephiroth's child???

@thevioletbee5879 3 года назад

God, the prospect of being good at art is intimidating as fuck. I keep coming up with ideas for stories that could be put in a visual medium (specifically a webcomic), but never feel confident enough in my drawing to do those stories justice. But this... this was some genuine great advice. Not advice I’m anywhere near being able to utilize properly because I have no idea how to shade or draw fuckin’ hands, but I’ll have to keep this video in mind as time goes on...

@alexias.4702 3 года назад

For years I hated my art, my brother always seemed better, but I kept going, so my tip for you is simply if you want to get better just keep going. Idk if that's the best idea though, Idk I'm just a random kid on the internet.

@killerdoodlebug 3 года назад

Well, I hear that a TON of people who work on any sort of comic develop their art super fast, just because they are working on it constantly, and are forced to move on from a panel to start the next one, instead of agonizing over it for weeks/months like someone would with a single painting. So start a comic! You don't have to publish it right away, but if you do, you can always go back and redo pages.

@cortomaltese5206 3 года назад

@@alexias.4702 I drawed terribly and was considered to have a preschoolers level of skill by my art teacher at 5th grade. Nowadays my art is still flawed but I think its at least a bit charming and decent. It may not seem like much but it means a lot to me. I hope I can continue improving.

@alexias.4702 3 года назад

@@cortomaltese5206 I’m glad you’ve gotten more self confidence!

@cortomaltese5206 3 года назад

@@killerdoodlebug as someone with ideas for a wrbcomic, finding your comment was great.

@mocchite 3 года назад

I'm an animation student, and last year we had a few classes about character design where we were taught about most of the topics mentioned in this video. Even if I didn't feel like our professor didn't do a good job teaching us about the subject, I'm really glad I found this video, because due to the pandemic, unfortunately our classes felt a little rushed, and there were tons of interesting topics I'd have loved to have explored more during classes. It's really interesting to see what our professor taught us not to do in real examples. There were tons of little tips about character design that I either didn't remember or didn't know about. So, thank you, thank you, thank you for making this video!! Don't know if you're gonna ever read this, but it was great to listen to your thoughts, and I will definitely keep things from this video in mind for the future. I shall even recommend it to my classmates. Greetings from Brazil! 💕

@imadog3837 8 месяцев назад

So the reason why Butch’s art is hated is because the designs are super cluttered, therefore making them super complicated? And in order to maintain proper visual hierarchy, they need less stuff. This is really interesting stuff. I’m still very new to art, and this is really insightful.

@geckko-jl4hc 3 года назад

the fact that someone who worked in the industry so long still can't pick colours and values amazes me, you would assume after at this point it would just be instinct. like was he just asleep the whole time??? I'm honestly so confused??

@Rekter 3 года назад

This is what happens when you can’t take criticism and (most likely) you have a big ego. You’ll never improve. Butch is probably the biggest example of that.

@rubyy.7374 3 года назад

Getting into the industry doesn’t seem like as much as a skill game as it is a luck game. This guy didn’t deserve to win.

@mollietenpenny4093 3 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. The man went to Calarts; you'd think he'd know a lot about color theory by now.

@geckko-jl4hc 3 года назад

@@mollietenpenny4093 he went to calarts??? now im more confused,,,

@cheesecaker6542 3 года назад

I actually felt my headache alleviate when I saw your redesign of Exodus at 12:30

@idiomatic444 3 года назад

Same

@sir6379 3 года назад

Same, my eyes kept moving all over the place, then my eyes just rested on the face

@InvadeNormandy 2 года назад

Butch feels like a George Lucas scenario. He had brilliant helpers and handlers and connections and a stable of talent that could take the vague junk that was being supplied and find the gold in it. Without the people around them they are actually nothing.

@hilosopee9073 3 года назад

When I first saw the characters you were giving advice for. At first, I was like “They seem fine to me” but when you started talking about value and use of color, it made me realize what makes certain designs truly special. These videos could really help beginning art designers who would want to get into this sort of thing.

@solsock2197 3 года назад

20 minutes of preaching local deity stove, the new god of the hearth

@queersaint 3 года назад

as it should be

@shanedrawsart5631 3 года назад

I tried the grayscale trick on a drawing I was doing this week, and it felt SO SATISFYING to see every color still so clearly... This video, although a torn down for Butch, was a build up for me to know what to look out for in character design, so thanks for that!

@jamesont9028 3 года назад

Me: dissatisfied with my art style and progress at 14 Butch hartman's art skills: there there, it's ok, i got a job with this style, you'll be fine kid.

@alicepersson9568 2 года назад

My friend who literally has a fifty times better grasp on anatomy than butch when 16 y old: 🙃

@kassandrax2322 2 года назад

Same.

@bett1826 3 года назад

This advice is so VALUable!!

@kenzo8096 3 года назад

2:33 "buttons for cool stuff" Simplicity really is key in design.

@maririantarean3720 3 года назад

This video has actually educated me on how to verbalize why some art is bad. I was never formally taught about art and I've kinda just... winged it. I never want to be a professional with my art, but I am curious on how my designs look. Im kinda bad at critiquing myself because I usually just beat my art down to a point where I just hate it so I was wondering if I should take it to a professional to get it critiqued? I know my anatomy is off (I've been trying to make at least semi-recognizable hands for years) but I'm wondering about my colors.

@parentalonion6552 3 года назад

There's even a chance that you could message an artist you like on Instagram and ask if they could critique your work, of course they probably wouldn't answer immediately and it might take a few tries but it might work out ya never know.

@maririantarean3720 3 года назад

@@parentalonion6552 that's a pretty good idea. Im not much of an Instagram-type person but I bet all sorts of social media have artists out there willing to help! I'll see what I can find.

@RetroIsaac 3 года назад

My advice as an artist is to focus on gesture before anatomy and value before colors. You can study anatomy as much as you want but if you cant pose a figure or get the proportions down properly, it won't matter. As far as value goes, do some gray scale studies and that should help you understand contrast.

@UltraMarineBlue 3 года назад

I appreciate any good shitting on Butch video, but this was also really insightful and educational ^^ thanks!

@imkuelllgremlin 3 года назад

this video is great for two things 1. dragging butch down a few pegs in a calm and calculated way 2. genuinely educational and useful information! i legit started looking back over my own art and was like "OOOHH so thats why it looks weird" XD

@Mldy96 3 года назад

The fact that I, a person with 0 talent in drawing art and lack of studies of art in general, created my characters in games with complementary colour palettes instinctively all my life while this dude with decades of experience doesn't realise his art is legit painful to look at is both hilarious and makes me cry :')

@sonyakii 3 года назад

Now I'm a teenager, I'm no professional at all, but I do pursue a career in being a cartoonist. Now I'm a self learner, and over the past years I've been boosting my skill I've learned something. Neon colors can be great of use, and bring character to your, well, character. It's just, butch does it badly, and it's extremely overwhelming.

@n-extrafries-surprise 3 года назад

I agree. Just looking at Butch's drawing in this video is so exhausting

@sheepyart856 3 года назад

Yeah I feel like neon is good sometimes but when it’s everywhere in a character design... maybe rethink your colors. This is general btw you can obviously still use neon colors

@tseliius 3 года назад

@Darling Vexa Art 100% on that. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@bett1826 3 года назад

Same here! Kinda used this video as a warning of what not to do for my own character designs

@ciara.eason13 3 года назад

4:04 is a simple way to describe Butch's commissions and his "artwork" in general. Hell, it's very obvious when you see some of the commissions, he literally traced off of an anime character and changed up the colors a bit. Yeah, he's "definitely a better artist than anyone here" guys! (Not really obviously) Edit: almost forgot, your art is amazing and thanks for teaching me a bit more about character design and colors.

@TuberoseKisser 3 года назад

As someone who draws in a comic style....I can't even say that Butch's poor attempt at a comic style is good, I agree that it's baffling how he was in the industry for so long but yet DP fans can draw the DP style 100x more accurately than him.

@wispy_nova 3 года назад

I'm still learning about Character designs, despite being 19 and steadily becoming an amateur artist/cartoonist, and this was a good way for me to learn about this Edit: I'm 22 now and have gotten much better at character design. Still learning though

@steamboatwill3.367 3 года назад

Same '-'

@an0nym0us_slash35 2 года назад

Bruv I'm an artist that hates drawing and Butch's design literally made me want to draw again out of pure spite

@wispy_nova 2 года назад

@@an0nym0us_slash35 You have no idea how long I've waited to hear those words!

@an0nym0us_slash35 2 года назад

@@wispy_nova wait really? Damn why

@wispy_nova 2 года назад

@@an0nym0us_slash35 I mean the Butch's design part. I'm positive your art is great!

@cherryspice1011 3 года назад

As an artist, this really made me feel better about my art I mean my art is shit but atleast it isn't like BUTCH'S ART

@ballonstudios7799 3 года назад

Same i think Edit: i think i suck at value ;-;

@malikarsyasakani 3 года назад

Same here

@keepyourshoesathedoor 3 года назад

@@ballonstudios7799 I understand.😭😭

@ChocoPiesAreGood 3 года назад

If sensory overload were an art style...

@androkon6920 3 года назад

Valve also cited value as one of the core design practices used on tf2. That game was designed in black & white, and with darker bottoms on characters for visual clarity. The backgrounds are also generally unsaturated to make characters pop

@littlebaldedone 3 года назад

I always disliked the 10 year art of Danny phantom cuz I feel that the white parts of the suit overpowered the black parts. The neck is just the worst part of it. It looks like a piano notes. I like the old design. It's simple and distinguishing. Too much details can ruin something.

@animeotaku307 3 года назад

And the belt buckle thing is... weird. It just draws attention to his crotch. Butch, what is with you and crotches?

@kaledalvarado9266 3 года назад

Idk calvin, for me his art style looks like he's trying to make an odd version of anime art style combining Stephen Silver's art style with an rookie bad pallet colors