Correction at 1:50: We say that AMD doesn't really make Ryzen 3 or 5 Chips anymore then immediately install a Ryzen 5 Chip and call it a Ryzen 7. Fix Incoming
"He's been wanting to upgrade his PC, but the people around him keep saying it isn't a good time for it. This has gone on for four years" kinda paradox.
@@ccibinel Nice argument, however: *You own a 1080.* I used to game on a 970 for years before upgrading to a 3070 Ti and the difference was huge, as for the rest - CPU seems not to be to consequencial, and RAM is fine if you get 16 gigs anyway.
@@Box-O-Soldier Depends on what kinds of games you play games with what is commonly refered to as "good graphics" often rely more on GPU than CPU so the CPU is less important but there are many games (simulations and city builders mostly everything that needs to calculate a lot of internal systems) which rely a lot on the CPU to run those and for those it can be rather important.
@@paulpietschinski3282I think you meant "points out serious flaws and tries to hold a media company accountable for errors in their coverage and mishandling of valuable items that aren't their property".
@@AgencyNighthawkminus the part that they gave LTT the prototype and then got butt hurt and asked for it back. Yea they shouldn't have auctioned it but billet labs should never have told them they could keep it...
I basically built the old PC a few months ago. same 5700X3D, asus prime MOBO, 32GB ram, Only major Diff is i bought a Used 3080 and a bigger Power Supply.
Do you think the 3080 is a better choice? Also is that cpu worth planning a build around? Im new to pc building and comparing those 2 things keep confusing me.
@lilmancc35 5700X3D is essentially end of life for the socket, so if you go that route keep that in mind that if you want to upgrade the CPU you'll need a new mobo, and ram at least, AM5 will be supported longer but by the time you want to upgrade from the 5700X3D there may be a new socket anyways. For the price the 5700X3D is pretty nuts
@@lilmancc35 i love the CPU. If all your doing is gaming i think the savings of going AM4 to get a better GPU is the way to go. and i think the used 3080 was good, but it did die after a month and i had to buy a new card. i think that just goes to show the trade off with buying used. you can get a much better card but you are on your own if it kicks the bucket.
Still running a Frankenstein build for several years, where at least one component or more is from my previous systems. Pc after pc with same pattern of reusing what I can. Saves tons of money!
Buitl a pc since 2017 still uses a 1070 gpu with a updated mother x570 and a update cpu which I upodated since 2020. Still using my old hdd assweell and psu no need to upgrad emight do it for 5090
Same here. Recycle what you can, carry forward the bits and pieces that are still "working fine". My fractal case has survived 3 updates and my 1060 is still ticking along just fine. It really depends on what you use your PC for, and as I get older, games have been pushed out in favor of productivity and video playback. You don't need to chase the tech dragon to be happy with your experience.
That is great advice but it can totally happen in reverse to your analogy. I remember in reddit literally seeing hundreds of 4000 nvidia gpus specially the 4090 and 4080 had whole sets of issues specially nvlddmkm errors(i might have typed that wrong lol) where it all got fixed for the super series. Bought a 4070 ti super and avoided all of the drama, cause the issues were clearly fixed.
Agreed. Also, I never buy the top top tier chip because these manufacturers seem to be pushing their luck with how high they clock out of the box. AM5 has not had the same problems as LGA1700 - but it has problems nonetheless, first with heat and then with the mismatched chiplet CPUs underperforming because bios/Windows/software (7900X3D, 7950X3D).
With my friend we had created a cascade upgrade pattern: I need better component for my job (lot of 3D rendering) and my company pays me for hardware upgrade every couple of year, so I buy the latest tech and hand down my old to my friend, rotating between them. So every 2/3 generation every one gets an upgrade.
I just spent about $2200 on a new build (excluding mouse, keyboard, monitor, and speakers which I already had). Upgraded from an Intel 4th gen (2013/2014) to a Ryzen 9000 series (2024). NO RAGRETZ
Made similar jump in 2023. 13700k with 4070ti. I really love when you can feel how much better it is in every single game or even loading crap in windows.
I might be wrong but it feels like getting the (somewhat) latest for laptops does make more sense than a desktop, especially if you’re looking at efficiency gains that will directly affect battery life.
1:49 WTF is Linus saying about AMD not doing Ryzen 5 and where did he get Ryzen 7 9600X from? It is Ryzen 5 9600X, isn't it? Even on processor in this shot it is labeled Ryzen 5 not Ryzen 7. EDITED after finishing watching: The general Idea of video is pretty interesting especially since usually you suggest to buy used, when on low budget, but a lot of people do not like that (do not have good second market in their area or just want to have warranty). Edited even late: Now there is a pinned comment from LTT about that mistake
I'm still rocking a B450 and R5 2600 from 2019. Only swapped out my GPU a few years ago because of some hardware issues. I still have drives from 2014 as well.
Ha same, except I'm still rocking a 2070 Super I bought around the same time. My SSD is also more recent as it's a NVMe SSD. My displays are laughably old though, the youngest display I own is an Element LCD TV from 2012. 💀
@@Timmycoo My first pc was a ryzen 3600x with 1660 super, still good for 1080p gaming. Upgraded to a ryzen 7 7800x3d and 4080 super now I play everything in 4k at 100+ fps. Could never go back. I will just be building a new high end PC every 6 years or so now. Good until 2030 for now.
You can still buy AM4 new. A 5700X3D with 32GB is still very good for gaming. It is 229$ (with free 32GB RAM) at newegg and an average AM4 B550 board costs
if you are already on a budged and the 7800xt is over budged why you mention the 4070 that is already over the budged of a 7800xt but deliver less performance ? makes no point to me and before you come here and say "but raytracing" guess what... 4070 is as bad in Raytracing as the 7800xt is and most games you will play and are played by the people nowdays does not even support raytracing.
Once the restrictions of the "new" system are removed, if you can somehow buy a B650 motherboard and get its BIOS updated to support the 9000 series, you'd take off a huge chunk of the budget and invest that to a better GPU, a better case, a better PSU, etc.
I just built a B650 system, that does support up to a 9950X, it's the ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi. Highly budget but the only real downfall would be VRM and PCI-E 4.0, but one of the M.2 slots is indeed PCI-E 5.0 which is a nice bonus. I personally for now coming from an FX-8370 went with a Ryzen 5 8600G and already it's a massive improvement, and seems to benchmark closely with an i9 11th gen, to me that's not bad honestly since I don't crave latest and greatest like I used to. The upside is I went with socket AM5 to futureproof to an extent, and the mainboard does handle 48GB DIMMs, so I have up to 192GB RAM capability. To me this isn't a bad built considering it was downright a budget build. The main hiccup I have with the 8600G choice right now, is my 1080 Ti (taken from the FX machine it replaced to save on cash), is only running in x8 at PCI-E 3.0 speeds, but considering the FX pushed it at 2.0 x16 speeds, sure that works for now. A better CPU will gain me that x16 later, perhaps when I do upgrade the GPU (both will be upgraded at the same time). All in all, yes a B650 isn't entirely bad for a budget build if you get a motherboard getting proper BIOS updates. My new build which consisted of the case, CPU, motherboard and 32GB of 2x 16GB DDR5 RAM, was around $400, with the PSU, GPU and SSD's harvested from the FX machine. As for why I chose an APU, because the 1080 Ti is getting a little old at 7yrs old now, any bit of assistance helps if it means taking the load off of it, so using Hybrid graphics in reverse (monitor on the 1080 Ti, but delegating the low power apps to the iGPU instead in Windows manually since Auto will use the 1080 Ti even if it claims 760M), it helps with the micro stuttering quite a bit, especially if I want to have RU-vid up in a PiP over the game itself, as the iGPU will handle the PiP, while the 1080 Ti focuses on the game itself. This surprisingly has gone a long way.
the most important part ist the GPU. 9600x vs 5700x3D and then its like on par, some games are better for 9600x and some for 5700x3D. But here is the hack. You take the weaker Ryzen 5 7500F. Then you can buy the same GPU. This would have been a much better build for "new mid", even though its a little worse than "old", but you have an AM5, that you can easily upgrade in the future.
Ive got a 5700x3d w/ a Peerless Assassin, RX6800, 2x 16GB sticks 3200MHz ram, Samsung 980 pro 2TB w/ heatsink ( snagged it almost 2 years ago new on sale for $93, hell of a deal), MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk Max WiFi, and an 850W Corsair 80+Gold PSU. I built it like 1.5 years ago, minus the 5700x3d ( i got that on sale for $181 this year, and I wanted to try and x3d chip). It kicks ass at 1440p
Nice, mine that is almost exactly the same except I have a 6800 XT that got on sale last year. Crazy to me to think I upgraded to a 3 now almost 4 year old card that still is more than enough for 1440p for me.
@@gazehound 5800x3d rx6800xt and 32gb ram, and its been hobbled together over the years. The mobo is from 5 or 6 years ago. The AM3 was a GOAT of architecture for CPUs.
I dont see anyone talking about this, but i have reallt noticed the changes after lmg stopped posting every day. I am now looking more forward to videos because they are all well written and interesting!
With the upgradability, you have to consider too that the GPU in the older system is far better and will likely last much longer. That should make up for the fact that you gotta replace your Mobo and RAM later. Additionally, AM5 and DDR5 will also get cheaper in the future (albeit not by as much as recently) so this older system may end up only losing you a few bucks over time, if it loses any at all.
@@vista9434 exactly. And you could 1080 that PC with the 7800xt for a good while. I don’t play newer games all that often though, mostly racing and Minecraft so I’m not the ideal example.
Yeah they should also make some possible upgrades to each of those systems - like buying current used parts in few years for 50% of its price. I wonder which would come up cheaper, then add some graphs with FPS. It would have been nice. With older system it would be mobo/cpu/ram, but with new system it would be CPU and GPU which could be even cheaper. I know I know that you dont buy what a promise of what will you do in next 5years. But many ppl do that, including myself... Sadly win11 requirements forced me to throw out perfectly fine i7-7700k :(
The whole draw with upgradeability on the CPU/chipset really only makes sense if you upgrade often and hop on the new gen at the beginning. I upgraded my PC 2 years ago but that was the first time in 10 years. Upgrade paths don't matter on that timescale
Exactly. This whole "upgrade path" line is fear mongering. If you wait the right amount of time, you STILL save money even if you replace your entire rig.
I work on a trickle down model. Just built a 7800x3d/7900xtx rig two weeks ago. The old 2 year old PC parts get the hand-me-down treatment and upgrades trickle to the other 4 systems in my home network. I'm always on the top of the line main daily driver system, with the rest being upgraded to the previous generations top of the line parts. Works well. The last system with the lowest specs and oldest hardware is always the PC that was built purely to be a storage backup that's just packed with HDDs. With this system, I know that if I pay a premium for this years shiny new best thing, I will at the very least get 7-10 years out of that part without a doubt. Makes it easier to spend the $$ knowing that even if something comes along that becomes a "gotta have it," I didn't waste that money. It's going to get used somewhere. I never buy parts for any of the older systems. If something fails, I'm replacing a part on the always up to date system, and stealing the part from there.
I built a PC over the summer and bought new components, largely because I wanted to be on AM5 so I had an upgrade path, and because gaming wasn't my only goal, I had some CPU dependent things like photo stacking and I also cared about 3d rendering and video editing. I ended up spending like $1600-1700 I think I forget exactly, but I'm pretty happy with the computer and I'm hoping that I'll be able to roll over some of it's components a few years from now in a way I couldn't if I bought older components now.
I just built a machine with a Ryzen 5700X3D 32gb of ram and a radeon 6800xt and it 4K games with ray tracing off. (You barely notice the ray tracing off) It plays amazingly in the 100+ FPS range and I paid under 1000 CAD for the whole machine CPU, PSU, GPU, Motherboard, SSD, AIO cooler, and ram. To keep it under 1000 I chose POPOS linux over big brothers watching windows 11.
I could have yes. But I was a beta tester for 11 before it came out and used it for a few years. Updates kept making it worse and then copilot came along with recall and that was my final straw with it. I now like the savings of just using open source software for everything. Been using POPOS on everything for over a year now.
@lawfulsoup8335 I have a 5700x3d with a gtx 1080ti, insane pc build for 1080p performance. I get over 240fps in cs2. If I upgrade my gpu it will be 4k worthy but I don't see the point especially when I can just have 2 goated parts - I call it the GOATED pc
@@the_fist_inyou4785 Its been a great build for me. I did not expect the performance on the 5700x3D It can actually do some blender work reasonably well and comparing it to my secondary system I have had longer which is a Ryzen 9 5950x with 32GB of ram and a RTX 3090 the performance really is not that far off in games except with ray tracing with the 6800xt.
Did they just use TTS to fill a gap ? and made a wrong statement about AMD "AMD doesn't release Ryzen 3 and 5 parts anymore" even though they are using a Ryzen 5 9600X in this video ? come on LTT
@TechMeldOfficial he referred to the 9600x as ryzen 7 in this video and a previous one. Which left me confused because from what I know, they are ryzen 5 instead. Right?
@@morrisshaye6994 yes, here is a simple explanation to not get confused anymore: 400 or lower in the SKU number is for Ryzen 3, 500 and 600 is for Ryzen 5, 700 and 800 is for Ryzen 7 and 900 and 950 is for Ryzen 9
Built my first pc 3 months ago (AM4) 5800x, 7900 GRE, 32 gb RAM, MSI pro B550M - VC, NZXT H6 Flow, ROG 360 Ryujin AIO. ended up being my dream build despite being on an old platform.
Thats a great first pc! I am also running an am4 build with 7900xtx/5900x, 32 gb ram. Have the NZXT flow as well. Great case. Playing all my favorite games with such great performance is amazing. Enjoy your build!
People look at PC specs > game-required specs. As long as your hardware survives the journey, 5-plus-year-old hardware is good enough for Rocket League, WoW, Valheim, Elden Ring, Skyrim, Baulders Gate and many modern games. If you want modern AAA games, maybe less so, but that is only a requirement IF you want to play them at all. Personally, the only reason I upgraded my 2015 PC build's GPU from a 970 to a used 3060ti was so I could couch co-op with my wife and play Elden Ring with a bit more detail.
still have a 2nd gen ryzen with a 1060 that's useable with most of the games i play. the only reason im thinking about building a newish system is so i can give this system to my dad.
If you dont need 4K and you are on budget and have/buy nice 1080p 60Hz screen you dont need much even for AAA games. Its all about preferences. If you need highest details on 4K, then you have to spend a lot of money.
Plus loads of bloatware, nonstandard case and shitty motherboard and powersupply, probably! And bo upgradability, meaning if one part becomes outdated, the whole machine turns e-waste
Thats why I upgraded from my 3600X and 2070 to the 5700X3D and 4070 Ti Super. Saving the £200-£250 on a new motherboard, ram and the new CPU (which as you can see performs worse or on par for a similar price) allowed me to get a much better GPU budget wise. I'll probably upgrade to AM6 at this point and have gotten my full use out of AM4.
i dont think theres one out there, but id love to see a 'How to buy a PC" episode kinda like the how to build a PC video. super long dumbed down and just plain informative for all the people that know its cheaper to build your own but dont really know how to start and where to look
My "oldie" I built last year, followed this principal. I found an open box Fractal Mini case, 32gb of DDR4 4000, an MSI B450 MOBO used an Ryzen 5 5600 AM4+ processor, a 3 year old RX 6800 16gb graphics card, a Cooler Master 212 CPU cooler + Wondersnail fans and a current gen 750W corsair PSU. I also used 3 TB of SSD/NvME storage. This thing can chew through games, and even handles ray tracing if I use FSR. It's fucking awesome. If I'd bought it all new for just the tower it comes out to around $1200. I bought a new monitor to go with it later, so $1500 for the tower and monitor.
For my current PC I built in May this year, I went with an AMD 6750XT and a Ryzen 5 7600. They came out in October 2022 and and January 2023. To me this upgrade was wicked and its a great system I have enjoyed a lot already. I would got with hardware that isnt on the bleeding edge of pricing (i.e. released within the last 12 months), because Deals just get way better. I think a happy medium is achievable between old high-end and current mid range components.
Built my pc back in 2022, decided to go 10th gen while 12th gen was releasing. I'm so happy with how my pc turned out and I feel like I did the right choice by doing it because I saved a lot of money and got a really good gaming pc, and I can always upgrade to an i7 or 11th gen if needed.
Not from this generation , b850 isn't out but if you are willing to go last gen (You should do that) You can get a cheap b650e or even b650 , this isn't new vs used , this is current gen vs older gens .
It's 2024 and I'm still rocking the i7 8700k with a GTX 1080 that I built in 2017. Runs almost everything in 1440p medium without any problems. It was the first time I ever built with current gen (at the time) components aiming on longevity, and I'm not disappointed.
haha wut? cpu intensive? it runs at 500fps. a calculator could run it. did you mean cpu reliant? cpu bottlenecked? just has no graphics so cpu is all that matters?
I got new 2 months ago 32GB Corsair RGB 3600 MSI B550 Gaming Plus AMD 5700X Cooler for 320GBP Kingston PCIe gen 4 1TB for 45GBP All on Amazon a second hand AMD 6600 XT for 100GBP already had case and PSU (RM650) so 465GBP roughly $600 It has been rock solid, great performance - EXPO and ReBar Enabled
This is my first ever pc and i will upgrade around the same time next year: CPU - Ryzen 7 5800x (cooler : Be quiet dark rock pro 5) GPU- rtx 3060 12g Motherboard - MSI b550 Gen3 am4 Memory- gskill ripjaws v 32g DDR4 Memory- western digital 1 tb m.2 Power supply - Corsair 650w 80+ bronze Case - Phanteks XT Pro Ultra white mid tower.
The motherboard choice was pretty weird tbh. Cutting there and maybe finding some good deals, you could probably find a way to squeeze a 7700xt for the "new pc" and it would've been way more of a competition.
I have a 5800X cpu (not 3D btw) and recently upgraded the GPU to an RTX 4070 Super. It absolutely mashes modern AAA games at 1440p. There really is no need for DDR5 or PCIe 5.0, which is massively overhyped. Sure, in a few years this may matter, but by that point my system will be over 6 years old and I'll be looking to upgrade the whole system anyway. The key point here is that if you go last gen (or two) for everything but the GPU, you'll have a killer system.
I just finally upgraded my girlfriend's PC from a 10+ year old Haswell refresh to the AM4 platform for about $800 USD, including a new case! She has my old GTX 1080 at the moment, so that's the next upgrade. But other than that, it was basically a full system build. NZXT H6 Flow ($100) - Awesome value case in my opinion, SUPER easy to build in. Ryzen 7 5700X3D ($180) BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 5 ($70) - Awesome cooler, but does NOT fit in the NZXT H6 Flow, so Best Buy actually saved me for once with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Black for $30 MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk ($115) - Super value with dual NICs and ample PCIe options KLEVV Bolt X DDR4 32GB 3600Mhz ($54) - SK Hynix brand of memory that often gets overlooked but seems to be pretty solid BeQuiet BN515 Straight Power 12 850W 80 Plus Platinum PSU ($124) - ATX 3.0 ready if you have a newer GPU Silicon Power 2TB US75 nVME Gen4 SSD ($100) - No DRAM cache, but great price to performance
when playing shooters , dont focus on the middle screen as a crosshair, focus towards any movement shoot at it. The crosshair is to guide you. But focusing on the guide mark all the time will reduce time speed
Ffs, let's go report army! Remember, take your time and report the comment, as well as the profile, since you've been checking it out anyway 😅 But be a trooper and don't click the links ❤
I made an AM4 build for my girlfriend because I was updating my existing AM4 build, so I had the old CPU, RAM and GPU ledtover that just needed a cheap case, MOBO, and storage to make a second PC. In any other point in time it would be a terrible machine and unplayable, but it's not bad and runs everything we play. If she wants to upgrade later then the 5700x3D is an option that has amazing uplift potential.
@@naso_g I came to say the same thing, very noticeable I got visible disturbed lol, I’m supprised it’s that bad still they should have better by now, not that I like it since he’s still alive
@@charlesm3232 same, I had to go back cus I thought I imagined that. I guess that Linus's time is yo valueble to do small retakes like that but the quality just simply wasn't there. Maybe LS will call us fools next wan comes around and show that they used it a bunch recently and no one noticed, would be pretty funny. I don't rly care that they used an AI voice, it just threw me of fof.
Old is gold. Last year, I picked up a 12700k, 2.5GbE capable motherboard and 16GB RAM, for just $20 more than the motherboard they used in the mid-tier new build. Slapped a free rx 5700 xt in and I get 1440p 120+ fps in Halo Infinite and Forza Horizon. Total investment was $540 including storage, PSU and a case. To save on energy I cap the frame rates at 60. GPU power consumption dropped from ~95w to ~40w. With the added benefit being frame times are absolutely rock solid, so there are no hiccups or drop in frames.
AM4 was the gift that keeps on giving.. I started out with a 1700 and I am still gaming in 4K with a 5900X.. To this day it still feels like plenty of CPU power.. I'm paired with a 6800XT and it's great for 60 FPS 4K high settings even ultra settings and high FPS in most older games.. I am all done trying to keep up with the latest and greatest.. Oh and Gen 3 M.2's are still faster than what most people need..
I built my system (first fully built pc) after coming off of a 600 dollar prebuilt from Walmart. I used the higher end parts available at the time so basically ryzen 5900x and rx6900xt and 32gb corsair vengeance. One 2 tb barracuda. On 1tb 980 pro. And a 256gb western digital blue boot drive. 750x Corsair psu. I'm planning on running it until it is obsolete. When I build my next pc. I will do they same thing. Building a new pc with new midrange parts is silly to me. If you want to go mid range I would definitely use previous generation parts. The cost to performance actually makes sense at that point
I run a 5700x and 6700XT combo and for my 75hz 1440p need it does the job nicely, while not making my life hard when working in Photoshop and Illustrator. It was the best upgrade I could afford last year and even runs on my 650w power supply I already had and used the same DDR4 RAM that my previous system used. I just had to get the mainboard, CPU, GPU and threw in a new cooler, since the other one stayed on my old mobo, that has now become a living room pc.
I recently built a used PC with the Same Budget. Managed to get a 5800X3D, 64GB with 3600MHz and a 3080TI. Looking at the current Intel 285K benchmarks the 5800X3D was a great choice even when AMD won't Support AM4 anymore.
9900k, z390, 32gb ddr4 and 3080 ti here and I'm starting to slowly save for a platform upgrade for black Friday 2025 which at the moment for me will be a 7800 x3d b650e and ddr5 ram. It might change by the time that comes around but at the moment my FPS in games is telling me I'm spot on with my upgrade plans for next year.
I finally saved a bit and changed my 3200 and 1650 super for a ryzen 5500 and rx 6600. Upgrading here is quite expensive, but happy with the update so far :)
I built my pc a little over a month ago for $1400 and it’s been incredible. Ryzen 9 7900x, 6800xt, 64 gigs of 5600 ram, and a seasonic 750w focus platinum the case is a be quiet one that came with 2 140mm fans. Forgot my b650 pro WiFi motherboard.
I will say this to anyone that is planning on building a PC and getting into PC gaming, I think the best way to build a pc rn is a mix of both used and new parts ESPECIALLY if you live near a micro center. You can go in there and get a killer deal on a CPU, MOBO, and RAM combo, and then maybe try to find your GPU second hand on the used market. I think stuff like that is where the true value lies.
I haven't bought a new PC in years. Used computers are still pretty good for a few years, and for what I'm doing I don't chase super high resolution because I don't notice much once I'm into the game a few minutes. Buying individual pieces is okay, but if you're looking for maximum value, I've bought more than a couple full pc builds off ebay. Sometimes I don't want the case or video card, but the bundle deal is so good, I'll just flip what I don't want back on ebay. Once I put the most random underpowered system in a glass case with a random GPU (totally did not belong) but someone wanted the parts and we all were happy.
I sold a build on Craigslist a couple days ago that was i5 12600K, 32Gigs Ram, RTX 3080, Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, and in a Corsair 500D with a full load of corsair RGB fans for exactly $1000. I even delivered it and set it up for the buyer
I’d love to see an expanded series on this topic. Take each component and pick out a model from each recent generation and test them against each other. Then determine how far back you can go and still get decent performance for the money
I think I made a good choice for my new build. I only plan on 1080p so got 5700x3d. Currently rx 7600 but will get 7700 xt this Christmas. 32gb 3600mhz ram. Msi mag motherboard. Corsair 850x. Lian Li 216x case. 2 nvme drives all for around $1000 Canadian. It was cheaper than a similar performance am5 build.
Well, I'm glad my decision to build a new AM4 with 5700x3d and 7900gre is justified. My previous PC was i5 5820k with 980ti, so it was a big enough jump for me. Not to mention, I only upgraded my RAM couple years ago, so I'm glad I could reuse my DDR4 RAM. And seeing how Ryzen 9000 wasn't a leap from Ryzen 7000, I don't want to buy into the upgradability of AM5. And I probably will keep my PC for another 9 years.
My new $1000 build includes some used parts, easy way to save a couple hundred here and there. It's a i9-12900ks ($250 eBay) rtx 3080 10gb ($285 facebooks marketplace) asus rog strix z790-h ($185 Amazon resale) rest is basically new besides the 2 1tb gen 4 m.2 drives I had extra. 32gb crucial DDR5 6000m/t cl48, Corsair rm850x PSU, Corsair 500d airflow case, ek-nucleus 360mm aio
Just built a new PC (finally!) I was in the fortunate position to have just enough saved up to get some nice components. Already had a lot in used parts, so I only needed a mainboard, CPU and GPU. I'm pretty happy with an i7 13700, 64G DDR4 and a RTX4080S. And yes, more RAM is more important than faster RAM in my case, because I do 3D game development for a hobby. The 4080 still was over twice as fast as the 7900XTX when it came to blender rendering, even with less VRAM. Easy choice in this case.
I just upgraded to the 5700x3d, it was $180 usd and the 5800x3d is only testing 1.04x faster in multi core and 1.15x in single core. For 180, getting me that close to the best, I'm perfectly happy! Now to do something about my blower style 5700xt 😅
Having been shopping this exact level earlier in the year. I was finding that what you could build for 1000 isnt spectacularly better than off the shelf pre built. New, outgoing model, it didnt matter. In the end an ibuypower from costco made as much sense as anything
Just built a 12700k, 3070ti, 32gb ddr5 system less than 1k for a family member (who demanded intel) and was quite surprised by the performance. CPU and GPU got off of facebook marketplace, mobo from eBay and all the other parts new.
This is the info I need. Like when I buy a PC I don't upgrade it afterwards because when I feel the need that I need something better after 5 years or so nothing will fit. So buying next gen stuff so you can upgrade is bs. Add some ram or storage sure but a new cpu/gpu is always out of the question. So I'd rather buy a gen or 2 older and cheaper. Thanks for the vid.
I wouldnt buy a AMD GPU in 2024 to be honest. DLSS is supported by like every game nowadays and its so much better than FSR. You cant spot the difference between native resolution and DLSS quality mode anymore so there is no reason at all to not turn on DLSS. Meanwhile FSR looks like sh*t compared to DLSS or native
Ironically I just went from an Rx5700xt and Ryzen 5 3600 - to a RX7900XT and a Ryzen 7 5700X3d. And I am super pleased with the huge amount of performance gains I made for about 900$. But with that I still have 32GB of 3600 MHz Ram and a few NVMe drives. So where I splurged a little on the GPU I saved with the 5700x3d and it's very good.
I built a 3700x/2070 Super system in early 2020, right before prices got crazy. I can't imagine trying to build a new one today and feel like the price to performance ratio was as good.
I have *always* bought CPU+motherboard+RAM as a combination. Unless you intentionally buy inferior parts for the first round, there never comes sensible moment of time to upgrade just one part. The only possible exception would have been AM4 socket because there the latest CPUs would have been really good performance boost compared to first gen CPUs but I had Intel motherboard instead. In long run it doesn't make sense to buy inferior parts but mid-tier parts at minimum. And once you have mid-tier parts already, the extra price you would have to pay to get meaningfully faster upgraded part for your existing CPU+motherboard+RAM combination is usually way too high compared to expected performance increase.
