The 180kg force is a bit misleading. The force they use is not just them pushing on the pedal, it is heavily influenced by the G-forces in play. So it is more like holding three times their bodyweight, it is not pushing 3 people off the ground with one leg. And they rarely hit the maximum. But even when you take away the misleading statements, it is still a hell of a lot of force they have to exert and they need to do that for 90 minutes. I wish they stopped saying that it takes X kg when that X kg isn't all done by the driver and when that X kg is done once in the whole fucking season... It just gives the wrong idea. The truth here is easily impressive enough: you or i will not be able to the same. We might have enough strength to push that pedal to about what it needs but we will not be able to do it multiple times in succession. About a decade ago i could've probably hold two people and take a step or two, and then my legs would've just given up. It is the amount of repetition they are able to do at around 90-120kg and still have great precision that is really impressive, and they do not have massive legs either. It is very compact strength.
Yes - the forces at play make a difference. The impressive bit is the fine modulation a driver is able to make under very high loads. I think of it in terms of "work" - the work load is still incredibly high regardless of G. That an F1 driver can do this consistently for a whole race is is more than impressive
I can't say you are completely wrong because there are subtleties to this. However, the whole load into the pedal is through the driver's leg and foot so he is pushing/supporting up to 180kgf, the exertion is the same. G is a big factor but the driver position means the seat, steering wheel and belts play their part in load distribution too (kitted driver of 80kg at 6g is about 470kgf)
@@ColinCarFanthere's some physics at play I don't fully understand to be fair, but I don't think the brake force comes for 'free'. The driver has to use a lot of force (how much I don't know), maintain that force and trail off in a controlled manner. The telemetry records the brake input in terms of hydraulic pressure, too - so how to get from one to the other I'm not sure. But we're not disagreeing for sure. And whatever the load may be, I'm pretty sure I could handle a few corners before I couldn't do it anymore!
i was about to comment on this, what the drivers do is so impressive by it's self, why do people then exaggerate it making it less impressive in the end? its so dumb
not exactly. all "scans" or "molds" are made with all safety equipment on, so, is a shoe scan, not foot scan... but i get the joke, hideo kojima would understand too
Braking is actually much more important than lap times! The vast majority of passes are made under braking. Even just in that example - if you brake at 100m, and I brake at 90m, then I already passed you!
An interesting fact about those carbon/carbon breaks is, that their coefficient of friction increases by temperature. That means the breaks reach their maximum deceleration a few moments after you press the peddal, when they are heated up, which has to be accounted by the driver. Normal steel roadbrakes behave exactly the other way
Excellent video !!! Keep them going! In this video, or any other, it could be helpful to say something about the rules because rules make the breaks the way they are; they don't have absolute freedom to do whatever breaks. The brake constraints should be clearly stated; this really affects their design. Also, it was not mentioned that ABS is not allowed -> significant influence on brake design. But I am not 100% sure if that is true. It would be nice to know the limitations or rules they needed to follow on a surface level so that we know a little bit more about the challenges that engineers face and find creative ways to compensate for the lack of something... I hope this message reaches you.
Look, the 180 kg of pressure needed to actuate a F1 break sounds impressive, but everyone who lift weights knows that there must be some major information missing. Look up a person deadlifting 380 kg and compare them to an f1 driver. Something ain’t adding up!
Go to a gym, find a leg press machine and put on 180kg of weights and with just your left leg, using just the base of the foot at the edge of the footrest, apply up and down pressure and do it for 2 minutes and come back and tell us how it went
f1 drivers are essentially laying on their backs. when they put THEIR effort into the pedal, the stopping forces push them harder into the pedal. as the adage goes "stand on the brakes", f1 drivers actually are doing just that.
Also the drivers use deceleration itself to increase the break pressure. It’s more like holding a180kg weight pushed, it’s difficult but not impossible for regular gym person to do so. But doing so 10 times per lap for 60 laps is the main issue
You showed a video of a driver vs a passenger in f1 car, of course their head is gonna move as they don’t see or control the car so they can’t anticipate it.
I am so strong that I'm actually able to move an entire car with one leg. A simple push and it goes flying. That's how strong I am. Ignore that it is a Hot Wheels car. So strong 💪🏻😂
180Kg of force! in that case Verstappen's Left foot needs to be studied... -Also - we need a (Group B) version of F1, Williams Racing may go straight to the top but F1 is kinda getting boring, we need RAW Spectacle & Theater coming from the unrestricted engines & future technology. Then schedule these limited races on the smoothest F1 tracks available.
you need 100 kg of force to full brake in a formula 1 car and i already know this since i was 11 years old i because i will be a engineer to make v10 v8 ,l6 so is not hard for me to study engineer so is easy because i was smart
