Buying a Piper Cherokee 235 Sight Unseen and Flying It 2,000 Miles In 2 Days!

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We bought the cheapest Piper Cherokee 235 in the world! We bought this plane sight unseen cheap, and proceed to fly it 2,000 miles in 2 days all around the western USA. In my opinion this is the best single engine piston airplane for under $75,000. The useful load is insanely high, it is simple to fly, it has tons of power from the Lycoming O-540, and it cruises pretty fast! All way going well until we ran into our first problem landing in Utah... What do you all think of the raw polished aluminum? Should we do any mods?
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@JRGarage Месяц назад

Silver bullet 310 or Tin Can 235?!? What do you all think of the polished aluminum? Do you have any 235 experience? I you all enjoyed this one. Part 2 coming soon along with the other plane reveal 🙌

@calebalsford9797 Месяц назад

Am a fan of the polished look lads 👌 Something a bit different sets it apart from the others in the fleet ✈️

@dagger4146 Месяц назад

Polished for sure. Hershey bars rule !

@ELZCGIJoe Месяц назад

Tin Can 235, keep it polished metal with maybe blue accents. It's a classic airplane and the polished metal gives it that classic look. You don't want another white plane do you? :)

@LCRider13 Месяц назад

The 235 was my first airplane. Got my private pilot and instrument rating in it back in 1998. Never should have sold it.

@JohnMphs Месяц назад

I'm going to miss the Silver Bullet 310.

@jeffreyhughes7107 Месяц назад

The blue dye will sometimes cause the strainer to stick open. Just dabbing the dye out with a rag will fix the problem. - Cherokee owner

@eeyore.official Месяц назад

The Cherokee 235 has always been my favorite GA bird, and I agree, it's criminally underrated. The newer 235s with the constant speed props are great too, but there's something about these original 235's that is so captivating. Would love to be able to own one one day!

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Yes the newer 235s have even more capability, and they can still be had for not much! Cherokee 235s rock!!

@aaronbrown6266 Месяц назад

Great to see 8694W again. I got my high performance endorsement in her at KCHD on Halloween 2021! I understand there is quite the story of how she ended up in Chino. Would love to hear about it someday. Enjoy!

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Wow, you've flown it! Did you know the owner, or was it available for rental?

@aaronbrown6266 Месяц назад

@@JRAviation I met the owner once, but my CFI knew him pretty well. That's how I ended up flying it.

@alecw4646 Месяц назад

Got my private at KCHD!

@curtcoltharp3719 Месяц назад

I owned a 1964 235 and it, overall was best plane I ever flew. Mine carried 84 gallons and I could carry 4 adults and fly 150 mph. I also had the fixed pitch prop and per book, it flew faster than the constant speed variant. In my opinion, the 235 beats the heck out of a 182 Cessna and for way less money. Mine had the motor gas STC that made the 13 gallon per hour burn more manageable. I also had a nice set of radios. Initially, it took a lot of cranking to start until I read the published start procedure calling for rotating engine with switch off and then I think you switched it to one mag for start and then both when it fired up. Fuel management was more detailed with 4 tanks and on long trips, I ran tips first 15 minutes each side and each one to edge of starvation. You had to watch the fuel pressure gage closely to avoid running out which I occasionally did if I got distracted. I wish I still had mine.

@HappyLittleSquirrel Месяц назад

My old man restored and flew Tri Pacers and PA-140s for years, loved his Pipers ")

@yamilcabrera2111 Месяц назад

Without being there and knowing for sure, The fuel leak is related to the fuel sump check valve that costs $15 and you need two quick fingers or ideally two people to unscrew and replace but many times if you push it consistently it may release dirt that can cause the leak. We replace one almost yearly on our warrior.

@Finder245 18 дней назад

I was thinking the same, but from my experince with the tapered wing PA28s, the leak is in the wrong spot. It should be leaking on the wheel.

@billcarrier9622 Месяц назад

I love the Cherokee 235 and there is a STC to convert the fixed pitch model that you have to a constant speed prop in order to get faster cruise speed and better climb performance. The amount of useful load that the Cherokee 235 has is phenomenal. And what other aircraft has 1000lbs of useful load while only burning 12.5 gallons per hour? Well, the answer is no other GA plane does.

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Almost 1000 pound payload on this one! You’re right, not much else competes with it. A constant speed prop would be sweet.

@joeglennaz Месяц назад

The 235 is a great airplane. I flew it out of Scottsdale for a long time with the valley flying club that was in the late 90s. That thing is a beast I could take it fully loaded in the summertime to Flagstaff or Sedona and it would just jump off the ground.

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Exactly!

@jerryn5527 Месяц назад

Used to own one in South Africa and you could load it up and if the doors would close it would fly, on the way back from a trip to Namibia we lost the motor and had to land on a farm road, much excitement for the locals and a farmer towed us back to his farm, had to get the engine replaced as the magneto drive shaft sheared and engine was close to time out, they upgraded engine to 250HP and performance was amazing, I sold it and went on to the 300 which was also a great aircraft

@ruten45 9 дней назад

I had a 1973 PA-28-235 and loved it. I flew it from LBB to ABQ every week and back for work. The Lycoming engine is amazing and I added a dual oil filter and changed oil every 25 hours. Always kept it immaculate and had very little problems with it. I’m had all King Avionics at the time. I had the Piper shop in Lubbock go through it for its annual and it was excellent. It bad tip tanks and it is a great and with me flying it had 7 hours of flying. It had EGT so you could set it up properly at altitude. It is the absolute best aircraft with for any pilot. It is a very special airplane. I always hangared it because I prefer not getting into a hot aircraft in the Texas summers. It made me feel good to fly it. Eventually, I flew it all over the Southwest and in the mountains as well as the flat lands. Miss it and should never have sold my baby.

@beacher425 Месяц назад

Remember with the 4 tanks…. Fill the tips, drain the mains. When refueling, fill the tips first and when flying, use the mains first. I was told it has to do with the twisting force on the wing spar particularly if flying heavy. But check the manual.

@tiaandewitt9559 Месяц назад

I did my ppl training on a 235 and still own it, my instructor always thought me to fly the tips first because in the event of a spin the centrifugal force can give you a hard time getting out of the spin. But this is just what I was thought;)

@av8rKCM Месяц назад

Was it truly a fuel leak? Every Piper I’ve flown, if you overfill it, you’ll get pouring/drips from the fuel vent.

@matthewstroud2003 Месяц назад

Owned a 65 235 for 5yrs. One of the best 4 seaters out there! Run your tips for 1hr - makes it easy to remember. Headwinds will kill it though lol love those planes!

@alrad5686 Месяц назад

Nice looking plane, and reasonable on the fuel consumption. Hopefully the issue is not too serious. Looking forward to the next video to see what else you bought. I like the polished look, but know it takes far more effort to keep it looking great, over a paint job. Stay safe guys!

@JustaPilot1 Месяц назад

Fun fact, all single-engine prop GA aircraft have the engine angled to the right except the Meyers 200. The straight engine in that one means a well developed right leg.

@ChristopherYounger Месяц назад

I purchased a 1965 PA-28-235 with the cosntant speed propr a year ago. Great little plane and especially easy to transition from a Cessna 172. I base out of the airport just south of Chino, Corona Muni (KAJO). Chino does have some great planes. My aircraft came with fuel leak as well. :) Fortunately mine was the quick drain--a $15 fix! Good luck on the 235, it's a great plane. :)

@AmericanPiddler Месяц назад

Only downside to the 235 is space in the cabin! I fly a 6/300 with the same useful load! Excellent choice!

@OlivierPaardekooper-yp2wt Месяц назад

I really like your videos and feel a lot of joy watching them thank you

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Glad you like them!

@andrewtrovao2397 Месяц назад

You got it right this time, the video is really fun.

@adriennefoley2906 Месяц назад

Great to see Christian 👍🏻 you guys are so cool

@edwardstephens247 Месяц назад

I love your new plane!

@mustardseedsociety Месяц назад

I think you made an excellent choice. {I'm assuming you have a Dakota} For one, the Piper Dakota was actually one of the PA28 series that was exempt from the wing spar AD in 2020 because the actual wing spar is thicker than on the lessor powered models of PA28. The only negative, is there is no BRS mod available for the Dakota like there is on a Cessna 182. Any C-182 built after 1964 can have a BRS installed if the owner wants it. On the Dakota or any Piper for that matter, no BRS mod is available.

@4life409 Месяц назад

Sure Guz (Chino Aviation) took care of you. I am based out of KCNO, great airport to do some filming with all the warbirds etc flying around almost every day.

@ericsd55 Месяц назад

Glad so see someone on the YTs showing how to calculate fuel burn like a old fashioned (normal) pilot.

@Acc0rd79 Месяц назад

That plane in the back 22R is a Beechcraft Sierra, just like mine!! So fun as there aren't tons of them around. Solid planes with so much room and 2 doors!

@Adventdraconis Месяц назад

Just bought a C model Sierra back in November. Love it so far!

@djwilliams4714 Месяц назад

Owen does a great job at flying... it must be amazing to fly towards a runway at night, then have to turn that sharp and line up center of the runway! Excellent job Sir!

@lanceg.8458 Месяц назад

That's what I fly. We have a 1976 Pathfinder but it's basically the same ship. Love the power but they are a bit thirsty lol... Fun fact: Same wings and tail as the Cherokee 6, only the fuselage is different on the 6. That's why the useful load is high.. We just did a new engine. Had 2500 hours on the old engine which was running fine but leaked oil out of every seam...

@607aviation Месяц назад

Beautiful bird! Love to see it

@bobmcgehee1749 Месяц назад

O-540’s are almost bulletproof if you take care of them. Mine has over 800hrs on and still runs perfectly. I just clean the plugs and change the oil.

@user-ed4wr5yy6r Месяц назад

the background noise is awesome, nobody hears it but you.

@DanFrederiksen Месяц назад

Owen doing that fighter jet approach :) Fun fact, the Cherokee uses only 40% less fuel per distance than an Eclipse twin jet despite the Eclipse going close to 3x faster. JetA is a bit cheaper than 100LL so on fuel cost they aren't far apart. So a modern 4 seater twin jet could be more fuel efficient than a Cherokee. Aint that sumtin

@i.r.wayright1457 Месяц назад

Ah, you are in my wheel house now. That fuel leak can be one of four things. A cracked vent hose, a bad fuel quantity sender gasket, a failure in the sealer at a seam or rivets. Either way, if it only leaks when full, you are going to be pulling the tank loose and sliding it forward. The fuel will need to be drained since you need to take the fuel delivery line off to remove the tank. Better hope the mounting screws come loose as they are special structural screws and in two different lengths. So what was the simple fix? 🔨

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Wow, you know your stuff! I'm pretty sure it was just some sealer at the seam. They said it was a minor little fix.

@i.r.wayright1457 Месяц назад

@@JRAviation Just remember that a fuel leak in a wing is very dangerous. One literally blew a Cessna 340 out of the air.

@imnotgogoing332 Месяц назад

based in chino too, will go see it soon

@haggeoromero 13 дней назад

It’s great to see young men doing great things like this, keep it going.

@PositivityTriangle Месяц назад

This channel is so good. I really enjoy the content. Ignore any negativity, you guys are going to be very successful.

@danielterry382 Месяц назад

Yes, the reason people do not jump on the Piper 235 is that they are prone to Fuel leaks !

@wstubbs8556 Месяц назад

Those K-155's are more reliable than the TV stuff.

@markmcriley2558 Месяц назад

Why is it not more popular? Yes it’s faster. Yes it’s got more load capacity. But, yes, it burns more fuel. Yes, it has higher insurance. Not many people need the difference in speed and load that the 235 offers over the 180. There is a very real break point where a plane doesn’t justify the jump in price/insurance/fuel burn. Everything in aviation is a compromise. The jump from the 180 to the 235 is one of those.

@trevfenn Месяц назад

And the good thing is, no Cirrus BS. No Parachute etc.

@JD96893 Месяц назад

Looks pretty nice! Not the biggest fan of that particular Cherokee though, I mean they are supposed to be affordable and are for the most part. But the IO-540 is way overkill for what is a trainer and it sucks a good bit more fuel.

@evmotorsports Месяц назад

great buy , Quit advertising I want to buy one soon ,your going to make the prices go up!!! scooter kicks butt , but unless your flying a 235 or larger 82+ lbs each is a little heavy for most light singles , at least a pair together in the baggage compartment.

@mikaeleriksson1958 Месяц назад

Go back and get that Saab 35 Draken ( Dragon) in the background!!😍

@brycewolff6295 Месяц назад

Wow what a Beauty lads.

@moseskelly2886 Месяц назад

Jeffery this sounds like a whole lot of dedication, motivation, commitment, devotion, and hard work. In the end everything will be worth it I'm sure of it.

@boeingav8tr525 Месяц назад

saw that one for sale on FB.. Yep, it was a good deal

@JustaPilot1 Месяц назад

Chino Airport has some damn cool planes there.

@theterminator2432 Месяц назад

love the Cherokees

@rustyheckler8766 Месяц назад

Looks like you guys found a great trainer.

@philmil99 Месяц назад

Beautiful bird!

@JRAviation Месяц назад

It really is!

@kevintaylor791 Месяц назад

235s are great, but If I recall, the 235 burns about 2 GPH more than a 180. So this is my best guess: The schools want the low power Cherokees because they are more profitable to operate. This means you, as a private buyer, are in direct competition with every Mom 'n Pop flight school and flying club, along with other private buyers. This increases the demand on the low power Cherokee, but not the 235.

@JRAviation Месяц назад

I see what that point of view, but at he same time you can pull the power back on a 235 to match 180 fuel flows and speeds nearly. The extra power gives you so much more capability while flying.

@travishouse8833 Месяц назад

If you have the power and you’re paying by the hour, you use every bit of it

@gorgly123 Месяц назад

Also, it is considered "High Performance". Probably not a good training airplane for a flight school. Insurance is probably a lot more for student pilots.

@kevintaylor791 Месяц назад

@@JRAviation I agree, but think about any biz that does wet rate rentals... it's a wet rate... are you REALLY going to pull that power back? In the immortal words of a Comanche owner I once knew "I don't pay those ponies to loiter"

@kevintaylor791 Месяц назад

@@gorgly123 Good point. Thanks.

@fudogwhisperer3590 Месяц назад

Yea, probably the extra maintenance cost and the increased fuel burn makes the 180 a better choice.

@T.D.111 Месяц назад

Love the Steelers shirt....

@adamross6499 Месяц назад

Your a good pilot

@BRC332 Месяц назад

All I fly is C172 and PA28. Next time you do a 2k mile trip, can I come and fly you? And build hours?

@fisherh9111 Месяц назад

Hard to believe that's a plane from the 60s. It looks fantastic. Better than a lot of the new stuff imho!

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Don't make 'em like they used to!

@h7qvi Месяц назад

Scooters are subject to harsh vibrations that are hard on the batteries. A Li-Ion battery fire would be bad. Better to use sodium ion batteries (they're all non-flammable afaik)

@RusscanFLY Месяц назад

Wait, I see the Pittsburgh Steelers shirt point go PGH! Born and raised in Pittsburgh, Taylor , Alderdice, high school! Go Steelers!

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Half our family it’s from Pittsburg! Go Steelers!

@gregorymaupin6388 Месяц назад

Greatest year of all just saying

@thedagger2657 6 дней назад

It’s beautiful you need a glass panel for sure

@adampencharz Месяц назад

Why wait for the fuel pressure to drop? Why not do 1hr and then change? Fill it up when you land, see what you’ve burned? Seems less risky?

@adamross6499 Месяц назад

So cool

@mikev9471 Месяц назад

Enjoy the piper. It’s a great simple airplane. I have a 180. The useful load in my piper is perfect for me. I can put 740lbs of people and cargo into my airplane with full fuel at 50 gal. Very easy to fly. I came from flying cessnas

@planeflyer21 Месяц назад

Nice score! How about getting a ride-a-long in the Draken in the background? That would be super cool!

@blackrifle6736 Месяц назад

*Great idea however that one's been parked at least since 2018...*

@chrisanderson2311 Месяц назад

I bid against you on this plane until the very end ha. I ended up getting a really good deal on a Cherokee 180. I’m based at KOGD so you flew it through where it’s home almost was.

@kerolosisfat4198 Месяц назад

The silver color looks kinda sick

@joeglennaz Месяц назад

The one I flew definitely had a variable pitch prop

@andrewtrovao2397 Месяц назад

Haha ha! the most fun trip so far.

@davidklassen2805 Месяц назад

I own a Cherokee 180. Bought it super cheap and using it for flight training. Main reason I didn’t go for a 235 was they were a little more expensive at the time. I didn’t need the extra useful load and the 180 burns significantly less fuel. And still has about 1100 lbs useful load. Cruising at 9,500 i burn 6.5-7 gph

@philipwilson4671 3 дня назад

What in the world is that in the background at 2:03?!? it looks like a Saab 35 Draken, but with a different canopy. Wow that's incredible. My GF and I commented that the interior looked like a pimp's from the 70's. Throw a feather in the visor and you are good to go. :-)

@dickdegraaff5452 Месяц назад

Hi Bros, This Piper Cherokee 235 seems to be a well done purchase. Without to kerosene leak and some minor details with the on board communication-system everything else seems to work perfectly so when these problems were solved you were able to flight a significant distance. I look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands

@JimBronson Месяц назад

That's not kerosene, its 100LL Avgas.

@gorgly123 Месяц назад

Called it.

@BRC332 Месяц назад

The fuel sump prob wasn’t closed tightly enough. Did you even try??

@TYLEREVZZ Месяц назад

Buy a Mooney button 👇🏼

@Exjet Месяц назад

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@jgibson340 16 дней назад

Yuh they should get a ultra acclaim Mooney or they should get a 414 cessna

@futuredoesmc6463 13 дней назад

I no has money 😢

@fisherh9111 Месяц назад

with that kind of useful load I could image they were used for carrying all sorts of high value "things"...

@jonclassical2024 Месяц назад

She is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! I have a friend who as a Globe GC 1 Swift....almost 20 years older than your Piper.

@stang10189 Месяц назад

I start my classes for my ppl this week. I can't wait. It's been a long-time goal, and im finally doing it.

@JRAviation Месяц назад

Awesome, congratulations!

@arcanace_ Месяц назад

I just had my first lesson four days ago, starting about the same time! Good luck :)

@royshroud9536 Месяц назад

What type of battery is in the scooter? If a lithium battery aren’t there very specific regulations especially wrt packaging for throwing lithium batteries into the baggage compartment of an aircraft!

@bertengineer Месяц назад

I just realized the cherokee 180 you have on trade a plane pic is KAY's FLYWITHKAY Cherokee 180

@adamdobrzanski6631 Месяц назад

They def bought a Piper Malibu

@patrickscott9494 Месяц назад

Owned one the fuel valve can be cleaned easily and stopped the dripping. Should have called a person familiar with the plane. Great plane. 235s.

@davidduganne5939 Месяц назад

Polished aluminum is a lot of work to keep it looking nice, but your plane is lighter, without overall base coat, or a constant speed prop. The fixed pitch model probably has lighter stab/pitch forces, too. Overall a good solid airplane, especially in the summer at higher elevation airports.

@josephcovino9697 Месяц назад

What was leaking on the 235 in Salt Lake #"??? What did he see when he took the cowl off ? Was it oil spray on that tube and firewall from the oil cooler there mounted on the back of the engine ??? Anybody please.

@jhaedtler Месяц назад

The most accurate fuel gage is the clock!

@boss2234 Месяц назад

Dry cool

@edwardbacon8089 Месяц назад

Did you try the bar of soap trick on the fuel leak?

@treyphillippi9486 Месяц назад

235’s are definitely under-appreciated but people avoid them because of the added fuel burn and possible overhaul cost for the limited gain on performance. Payload is the biggest plus, but cabin size is no bigger and more comfortable so its cheaper and easier to go to a 180 horse.

@jean-clauded5823 9 дней назад

I have a PA24-250 I need to paint. What do you think of the "raw" look here compared to painted?

@greg552 Месяц назад

please tell us you had the fuel truck pump that tank out!!!

@user-yq2co2vt8v Месяц назад

Were you successful in bringing the paint back to life on the 601 or does the airplane need to be repainted? Thanks.

@JRAviation Месяц назад

You’ll see next video:) The paint was saved

@jackshittle 12 дней назад

Did you see a formation of flying saucers ovr Mt. Ranier like Kenneth Arnold saw?

@KutWrite Месяц назад

Pretty cool. What app do you use for that calculator? It's very legible to my older eyes. Thanks.

@JRAviation Месяц назад

It’s just the native app built-in to all iPhones.

@KutWrite Месяц назад

@@JRAviation OK thanks for the quick reply! Can't wait to see what "other Piper" you bought... a Malibu is my guess.

@douglasphillips1203 Месяц назад

Those geese were just telling you how much they liked the plane! *caution wing wash*

@thomasmixson7064 Месяц назад

These older planes ...182's, Piper Dakotas ect....incredibly capable & affordable.

@myothercarisaz3 Месяц назад

When will you get your PPL? It is somewhat crazy that you are buying lots of planes but you can´t fly them yourself. Please give us an update on your flight training status.

@RusscanFLY Месяц назад

I dig it! I’ve got one coming soon!!!

@bigdaddie40 Месяц назад

Fuel burn

@myleslilley2967 Месяц назад

Nice shirt.

@LeppAviation Месяц назад

The Tin Can saga 😤

@Bluestreak589 Месяц назад

Smart mentioning OneWheel as unsafe... They really are a problem on multiple fronts. Louis Rossmann and others have made numerous videos going over the safety and maintenance problems with those things. Varla is obviously safer. Now that you've got multiple training-class aircraft its time we see both of you guys putting the time in to actually get PPLs and start on the path to high performance/complex, instrument, multi-engine, commercial, etc... We've been hearing about "wanting" to do it for how many years? Make 2024 the year and get the work done!