Should mention this. There is an issue where I say Terascale 2 is 90nm on the spec sheet. It is actually a 40nm Node. So the Last Drivers were 2015 I believe not 201AD. Although they're so bad they may aswell be
I have an HP GTX 660 OEM, it's great. Did you know it, maybe you make a video about that card? It is ~$70 on ebay. Edit: Ti version is available in this price range. I don't know maybe it is not a budget card, but I am very happy with it. 😃
It's to assert dominance. When dad leaves the toilet, he makes sure the next person to start down that hallway is smacked in the face by that invisible wall and they have to tough it out the whole walk to the porcelain throne
@@IamJay02 sorry, my cat walked across the keyboard, i actually just wanted to insult you and call your existense useless, but now i won't do it... now it's too awkward
Exactly. It should be like $75 and 1050ti $75 as well. Theyre so overpriced. Rx 570 is like 1.3x better than 1050ti. It costs like $90-100 on ebay😤😤😤😤😤
I use some similar low end Radeon to power on a build I put together, just to see if everything works, before I use the RX 580. The Radeon cards also scale low resolutions sharper than NVIDIA, which is nice when you capture.
I also noticed that lowend Radeon (HD34xx-HD64xx) have better colors and sharpness than lowend Geforce (G210/420GT). The Geforce ones looks like it has artifacting similar to viewing JPGs of sharp vector-like solid graphics. Also gradients look finer and softer. Just something we noticed in our print design studio since then.
@Soggy Android: I mean we were highly GPU Bound, unfortunately no cards from 1999 can run the modern release of Minecraft very well. But cheers for the comment anyways. :)
GTA V at 240p, that's some dedication right there :D BF3 is surprisingly playable at very low resolutions, though 360p is pushing it haha. I had a big old CRT which could do 800x600 at 200Hz and it was awesome. With 3D spotting you could just shoot the orange doritos and not actually had to "see" the enemy.
@@notadrij8799 well, the owner used this PC for internet access and watching videos, but she bought a newer tv wich didnt had a vga input, so this card fits like a glove in this situation.
I always thought my HD7470 was shit, and well it still is but this video really makes it look better than it is. Still I'm actually impressed how scalable GTA V can be. But as a little feedback so did I get bothered by the camera movement at the beginning also the ending where you finished talking and suddenly cut the video were as in other videos the music go on for a few more seconds. Overall I liked the video and it was really neat seeing an alternate video to the Nvidia one but I also think it's important to give feedback where feedback is needed. :)
@@sburton015 For games and applications around that era it's actually quite good, it is just that my card was paired with a gen 3 i5 and was its bottleneck for quite a while.
In my experience, you would have to spend 10 times that, to find a card that's actually better than the onboard graphics that's included with many modern APU's.
Yup, when I was looking to upgrade, that would have gotten a GT700 series, which at the time was on par or marginally better than the onboard. It was not enough to make it worth it, though. You'd have to get above $100-$120 to notice. I don't know about modern chips, but they are likely to be much better than they were 7 years ago. The point still stands. With a modern processor with integrated graphics, you might want to stick with the onboard graphics, unless you intend to make a sizeable investment.
Ur videos are so f*** interesting. Sorry for cursing but man. Keep up the work. I think the reason why ur videos are entertaining is because ur exploring old hardware and see how they perform. Thanks for doing that. 🙂
You already made a video on this I got mine for 8 dollars it's as good as Intel HD 3000 it doesn't actually use all its vram it's too weak 720p csgo was good enough 40fps Just saw the vid 480p 40fps? That's weird 40fps 720p for me ill recheck and update
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial it looks exactly like the on in the video I would mention it in discord and you guys would just recommend a better GPU remember I had a 1 on 1 with you cause the display wouldn't work or it wouldn't detect the drivers lol the only difference is it ran Minecraft 720p 40fps without opt I fine low settings I might be talking about a different one but it looks exactly like this ill plug it in if i find it and find out
'looks like a ps2 title' Me: *slowly blinks* That's a bad thing? In all seriousness, sometimes I actually like the low-res jank look more than the modern super-clean and advanced one.
I'm a *Low-End gamer* And I'm happy that I go through all the struggles of finding graphics cards and then just find a $5 - 7 dollar one that's actually decent and can play GTA-V *I'm stealing my mom's credit card*
Chris aka Schulbus okay so we need to turn off her phones so she can’t get the notification from the bank. Make sure she is outside too, if she is inside she can catch you. Now we use the card. Turn on the phone and delete the notification from the bank. Easy peasy right?
@@notadrij8799 i thought you were supposed to just send the card per post to the porn site admin... and a slap with a wooden plank should do the rest, i mean, she won't be looking at her phone, that's for sure
Well dear pardon me, but how in the worldy fuck does this perform better than my 400$ laptop? Edit: for reference i have a AMD A8 quad core 2.3ghz with a 8gb ddr3 and radeon R5
Excellent card it is, sold mine though and replaced it with a 7770, while my game rig upgraded to an rx570 itx single fan. The rx470 no-6pin is also great but dunno if it has halfheight.
Have you thought of trying some super-cheap motherboard's integrated GPU? I've got an expensive one, an Asus G20AJ, and one day when I accidentally plugged in my HDMI to its socket instead of my GTX 980's socket, and I booted up Oblivion of all games, I got about 2 FPS and I could see the void... At first I thought that it might have been a mod that fucked things up, so I uninstalled the game and all of its mods in frustration, but when I booted up another game and it just instantly closed on me I got really worried. But when I looked at the back of my PC I made a facepalm that would make Captain Jean Luc Picard proud... But what I want to know is, can you actualy game on a motherboard's GPU that isn't as modern as mine?
I think it's important to remember that brand new low end and priced cards like this used to be very important. Before Sandy Bridge and Llano, integrated/on board graphics were mostly garbage (tho ATI's 42XX series IGP chipset was very decent for the time.. a last hurrah for mobo integrated graphics before the changing tides.. tho I think they should still inlcude a basic IGP on every mobo for testing/issue resolution purposes). You needed a graphics card or you could barely even play a 240p youtube video. That's why these type cards just got "re-tuned and re-branded" for so many mid/high end GPU generation for both AMD and NVidea. The market for cheap new graphics cards was going away quickly and they just tweaked what they had to keep it viable. No reason to dump $$$$ into a product to make it significantly better than last gen when it still won't sell.
The XFX HD5450 I'm using right now has a modded BIOS and is overclocked to a blistering fast 900MHz. That increased the Avg. FPS in Unigine Superposition on the "720P low" setting from an unplayable 4FPS to a silky smooth framerate of 5.2FPS
Thats way better than the radeon x600se I used for a couple days in my ryzen build until my rx570 arrived home safe (First one was lost during shipping) X600se on windows got only 720p 4/3 stretched, on ubuntu 1080p 16/9
I've seen your mug with tea in it so much throughout this video. Now I really want a cup of tea, but I don't have any tea bags. This makes me sad. Thank you! Haha.
AMD seems to be better if you've got a low budget, due to them losing their value more quickly. Before I was able to scrap together enough money to get my current GTX 1050 Ti, I was using an AMD HD 5670 and it... wasn't the most terrible in the world.
Sometimes I feel like my piece of shit laptop with an AMD A10-9620p and Radeon R5 Bristol Ridge integrated graphics is slow. It makes me feel good knowing I can at least run Skyrim at 720p on low settings even though the card in this video can't. I was sure this card would outperform it. Fun fact, Linux hardware detection for ubuntu 18.04 and Manjaro actually thinks my graphics card is the Radeon HD 5600 and not integrated graphics. It also thinks I have a weird number of VRAM in the upper 500's not 512mb which is the actual dedicated spec of the iGPU I have.
PCIe cards for games from 1995~2003 aren't a good solution because Windows 98 is mostly necessary for getting these games work like they should. Windows 98 don't like PCIe cards.
See for the likes of Minecraft and csgo, if you are getting high FPS but it's choppy you can cap your FPS and it might solve it or uncap your FPS completely, works for me
I would like to point out there are mods specifically for super low spec pcs for Skyrim. Have you tried optimizing each game for the card? And this may be stupid, but what about a ridiculous overclock on this GPU? Like with dry ice cooling and just cranking the voltage wAAAAY up? Just for a "why not" kinda video.
I have HD 4550 on my secondary PC (dual core). I can play Ground Control 2, Gothic 2, Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, Vampire Redemption, Hunting Unlimited, RTC Wolfenstein, Half Life 2, Doom 3, Halo, COD 1 and 2, Conflict Desert Storm, Conflict Vietnam, Hitman 2 and 3, GTR2, rFactor 1, Grand Prix 4, F1 Challenge, Grand Prix Legends, NFS Porsche, NFS 6, and many more games before 2005 in FULL details. If you know how to choose games, you can have a lot of fun with potato PCs.
I mean it's better than the HD5450 I bought for ~40€ to use with my Pentium 4 years ago. Free PC from my doctors office but it lacked a GPU. My friend sold his old somewhat broken PSP just so I can afford that crappy thing. Barely enough for League of Legends with very mediocre performance but hey stuff like TAGAP ran well and obviously other 2D games. It wasn't very enjoyable but for a basically free PC that's okay.
Low end cards from 15 years ago run even some new games on 480 and 720 and only cost 25€ back then, now you pay 50€ for a GT 710 that isn't much better and 150€ (RX 570 4GB) for something that can run new games 1080p medium reliably. And in December 2020 you actually pay 230+€ for a RX 570 if you can even get stock, and 190+€ for a used one. Strange times indeed.
Man, that Sims bathroom... PS: I use this card in a media center in the living room and I also play FIFA 12 against friends and a racing game. This is what I would play (some FIFA, RACING GAMES) in a Xbox One/PS4 anyway. Anything else like Far Cry 5, Call of Duty WW2, X-Plane etc it takes place on a proper PC, not console.
I used to work as IT for a school and all the desktop computers had one of these in the. The funny thing was that the computers wouldn't even boot if u took it out. Even if the computer has a igpu. I enden up salvaging two of these computers which were broken and made a pretty decent rig. i5-2500, 8GB ddr3 ram and two HD6350s running in crossfire. All put into a small Dell optiplex 790. When i quit that jobb i ended up taking this machine with me home and it now servs as my living rom multi media PC.
So, just my luck, I found a bunch of busted up computers in a scrap pile for free. I ended up getting a C2D 6600, 160gb HDD, some dented dell PSU, 1.5 gb of ddr2, and a Dell optiplex 960 full tower. And an nvs 290. No side panel on the tower, but all free. Any idea how to fix the dent in PSU? Near one of the screw holes, so can't really put in.
nah these lower end terrascale gpus are only good for really old titles with proper drivers. Even the HD7750, a very low end GPU by today's standards, has 16 rops. I'd only ever go with something lower than this if the title was very old and I was running it on an old projector at 1024x768. Something like this is ok for emulation on an old 640x480i CRT but that's about it
Gaming? It's not much, but it's still more than the Geforce 2 MX in my 90s gaming PC! Game capable for sure, depending on your definition :) I also used one of these in my grandpa's old desktop build, and it still seems to work just fine under Win10 as a basic display adapter with whatever the last AMD drivers were.
I bought a super el cheepo Nvidia card, the 710 and what is a rebranded HD 6450 from AMD that sits in two of my machines. However, their use purpose gives them a very very easy life, all I require of them is that in emergencies, I get a text console monitor output from the card, when I cannot log in to my servers remotely for some reason. So for that they are perfect cards, but for any kind of 3D load? Forget about it.
These cheapo GPUs with 64-bit bus are intended to use in office PCs for Aero support in Windows and generic 3D support in office software. Possibility to play anything on them is accidental byproduct :) By the way these cards are still fine for second monitor support (not for gaming) in office/software development PCs.
I'm thinking the Intel integrated graphics in my cheap-ass HP system has this card beat. I'd suggest any new processor with an iGPU over this or a similarly ultra-cheap nVidia GPU any day of the week. Even a Ryzen 2200G or lowly Intel Pentium would probably beat the snot out of this thing.
That computer is something I expect to find in a trailer at some godforsaken trailer park in the mid-west; owned by someone who for whatever reason can't or won't afford a half-decent computer. Tossed beneath a notched table with heaps of cans and empty bags of chips pilling up like a mound of snow against a Rosewell FMB-02 mini-tower choking on dust, a desperate attempt to relive the glory days of gaming he had as a child. Playing the same games over and over again because he fears his computer would brick at anything more demanding than Half-life 2. I'm sure he would even connect to the internet on dial-up for nostalgic reasons - if he could afford it.
Since I'm poor I'm considering buying a used graphics card for the cheap and an old i7-920 for my pc which can barely run 480p videos, so I guess that I'll buy this one since I found it for 1990 RSD, or roughly $2 American.