@Jo T Jack was trying to write a nice comment, so why do people like you just come and say random things that do not correspond with the discussion at all?
Equally it is a tremendous pity that Bach failed in his attempt to meet Handel. What could have been the musical result of the two (of four) musical genius’ having time together discussing their compositions.
What a joy! Vivaldi, Bach, and such a wonderful organ, organist, and recording! It's great to be reminded at this miserable time in history that humans can touch the face of God.
There is something going on here with real substance. It is so refreshing to hear this piece end very simply and not on some big power chord that is so typical. A great piece and a great collaboration. Some really good choices were made in this piece. One of my favorite sections is at 4:15 where the pedal part drops out which is good contrast to all the activity going on before that and it sets up nicely for the ending for the first movement.
I could tell immediately that this was Simon Preston playing. Superb phrasing, energy and an exciting performance as always. Evrrythingbhe touches is always inspirational. No one really like him.
Gerubach, thanks for feeding us with new sheets and songs. Bach would be amazed by your work. More than 250 years and his work are influencial in our age...WOW
I often wonder what Bach would think if he knew that he is more revered today than he ever was in life. That's the irony about geniuses, never fully appreciated by their contemporaries.
@@plebiu Agreed. He also met Georg Böhm and possibly Jan Reincken. A shame he never met Handel or Vivaldi. We know he corresponded with François Coupérin, but his letters sadly do not survive.
The "heart-wrenching" spot debate is just that, spotty. How about we say that this entire work makes one's heart sing at such sounds. If music is that beautiful here on earth, imagine what the Lord has in store for us that believe in Him!!! Thank you Lord!!
I think even Vivaldi could not do a better job creating an arrangement for organ like this one made by Bach. This arrangement really make justice to the original.
I absolutely love playing Bach on the organ, it takes so long to get everything correct but in the end is absolutely worth it. And Simon Preston is my favourite Organist! Thank you
Vivaldi’s music is extremely angelic. Like you’re looking at one of the biblically accurate angels with it’s symmetry, repetitiveness (in good style) and powerful cadences.
The Adagio clearly is a major inspiration in the one in Bach's original "Concerto Italiano". Despite the allegations of having "written the same Concerto 600 times", if you've been held in such regard by the greatest of them all we can comfortably say your value is out of discussion.
If anyone sees a lag (usually about a quarter-note's worth) between the sound and the position of the music, it is most likely from having Bluetooth speakers. (It won't happen with built-in or wired speakers.) This can be the combined result of the Bluetooth driver's packaging the digital signal, and the speakers' having to decode that into connected digital units that, then, have to be sent through a RAMDAC for digital-to-analog conversion in the electrical signal to the magnets of the speaker units.
This is a transcription of Vivaldi's Concerto for Two Violins in A minor, RV 522. And a great one at that. Here is a link to the original conceerto: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7E-RTI-H2oI.html
C'est Wunderbach ! Imaginez ce que JS Bach eût pu produire s'il avait fait partie de la véritable église catholique au lieu d'être prisonnier de sa chétive hérésie allemande...
I usually can distinguish between Bach and other composers, even baroque ones, pretty quickly. But it’s easy to understand why Bach loved Vivaldi from this piece. Soooooo similar to so many original Bach works.
The dotted half notes at 0:55 and again at 3:14 elapsed are not being held long enough. They are being played as if they were not dotted which is wrong playing. They need to be held for 3 full beats of that measure.
quel et cet orgue qui et si agreable a ecouter ? ou et t il ? mr josef zimmerman et parfait ! choix des registres varier , phraser , tempo , le resultat et la pour notre ravissement / merci ! pierre-xavier de chassot .
Very strange that the largest musical minds in history all lived at about the same time; Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, Pachelbel, the Couperins, Scarlatti,... I wonder why?
Because music it's a part of a whole social thinking. Not about talent, not about virtuosity or superiority. Music are not dots on a paper, sacred notations that should be kept through time. It's not even the sound that it produces, that's just the way it expresses itself. Knowledge is not something able to be transcribed perfectly on books. Bach was what he was thanks to his environment, especially his family and hard work and passion, just another mortal that experienced his life how he could. How many possible Bachs must exist now?
@@qwertyschneider None, western culture is collapsing due to crazy leftists. At least all the scores are stored electronically and can be accessed by other people in the future.
the figure in and around 11 minutes is a series of up a fourth progressions within up a fourth tonicizarions, notice the nut of the loop when the ruckpositiv enters it's no longer the III chord but the minor one chord huh?
At 4:30 elapsed, is there an implied ritardando in the 2nd to last measure of the first movement because I don't see it notated. If it is meant to be there, why didn't Bach put it in since he arranged this piece for pipe organ? If it wasn't meant to be there, then why does this performer play it as if there was one there? Same thing happens at the end of the 2nd and 3rd movements.
You won’t find a ritardando notated in most of Bachs’s music if I remember correctly, however it is still almost always played. Decisions like if you should play a ritardando or not are always up to the performer and the music being played. In most of Bach’s music a ritardando is always fitting, because endings might otherwise come to abrupt, thus most performers choose to play one.
On parle de génies, tel Einstein, Mozart, Schrödinger voire de Broglie, mais y avait Bach, et tout était dit... Et je me relève difficilement en sachant qu'il y aura toujours un pithécanthrope qui me demandera d'éteindre cette "sotte" musique....
One would think this was not a work by Bach, unless one knows it was based on Vivaldi. It has many style gallant , linear and simple parallel elements that Bach normally would rarely use. You can see in the 1st movement how Bach's inner non-conformist musical mind is trying to break out in the inner harmony, while Bach is consciously trying to keep a lid on things, and stick to the spirit of Vivaldi's original work. lol
Bach also wrote galant music. He was not opposed to it but he thought those who restricted themselves to the galant style were lazy and didn’t care for dissonance. See the Scheibe/Birnbaum debate.
The first movement is almost totally unchanged so I don't know what you're on. Bach thoroughly admired Vivaldi, so maybe he literally transcribed it because he liked the piece as it is, and the very few changes probably weren't made in an alledged spirit of "non-conformism" but simply in order for it to be more interesting to play and listen to with the organ. Because although these transcriptions of Vivaldi pieces on organs are often very pleasing, they still lose a lot of complexity and interest simply because some techniques and way of playing with violins can simply not be replicated on other instruments. The 3rd movement for example of this very concerto is much more impressive, complex and pleasing in its original form, with the barriolage and the stacatto that weren't translated well on the organ. (the 2nd movement suffers quite a lot from the lack of vibrato and double voice IMO too).
@Pointy .. one would think !! And one thinks right , this is NOT music from Bach who simply did a ( genial sumptuous awful ) transcription. And you being an educated Music Listener , quite confidently intercept the MANY Music that the ( undoubtedly ) great Bach borrowed from others 😮😮😮😮
Поучительные восторги. Интересно, что эти ребята говорят и чувствуют ТЕПЕРЬ, В ДАННЫЙ МОМЕНТ? Скорее всего, не говорят ничего - запрещено говорить. А потом запретят и думать...
