C.P.E. Bach - Harpsichord Concerto in C minor, H. 448 / Wq 37 (Ludger Rémy & Les Amis de Philippe) 

just like his father............if only CPE knew the struggles his father went through to make ends meat for his family

Renshen1957 The comments of Haydn and Dr Burney, for those interested, are worth seeking out in full. Burney’s description of an evening spent at CPE’s house is fascinating whilst Haydn’s comments are perceptive; his explanation of the impact of discovering CPE’s works as a young man are very interesting. Mozart’s reputed comment which appears all over RU-vid is ambiguous, in fact it is hyperbolic nonsense without understanding the context. It is far less valuable than the comments of Haydn or Burney in understanding anything about Emanuel Bach, and it is almost impossible to understand why Mozart should have said this of CPE. The music and style of Emanuel Bach and Mozart are so utterly and completely different that not a single note of one could be mistaken for the other. Perhaps if Mozart was referring to CPE, he was simply stating what almost every German/Austrian musician felt about the highly respected, venerable and esteemed CPE, particularly relating to his Versuch - his massively important and widely influential manual on keyboard playing published in two parts in 1753 and 1762. Mozart’s referring to JS Bach would actually make more sense than CPE - particularly as Mozart was fascinated by his discovery of this ‘old’ music! My view is that Mozart was referring specifically to the Versuch. Researching this famous quote, almost all you ever find is the quote itself; there is almost no critical thought or analysis given to it. Mozart was given to hyperbole sometimes and indeed used the ‘father and children’ metaphor again rather more appropriately - Mozart being the father, the quartets the children - in his lovely Italian dedication of the six string quartets to Haydn in 1785. It is a beautiful, sincere and heartfelt dedication. It might be useful if Mozart’s comment was used a little less. CPE really does not need such an imprimatur, especially as it is so unclear as to what exactly Mozart was referring and his wider influence outside of North Germany - the Versuch excepted - was extremely limited.* * The Versuch was only published a full ten years later in Vienna from its original appearance in 1753, and at a time when almost none of CPE’s works were available. CPE’s music was not mainstream, but relegated to appearances at Baron van Swieten’s ‘old’ music sessions in Vienna in the 1780’s which were full of music by Handel, JS Bach and the like; these were the Sunday morning concerts attended by Mozart - and sometimes by Haydn - in the National Library.

@@luciferarise4973 🥩

It is known as Sturm und Drang.

@@saidtoshimaru1832 CPE Bach wrote no sturm und drang music; what you hear is his very highly original North German ‘empfindsamer Stil’.

@@elaineblackhurst1509 They where parallel styles, and CPE participated in both.

@@saidtoshimaru1832 I think it unhelpful and misleading to claim that CPE Bach ‘participated’ in the sturm und drang movement; he categorically did not. The predominantly Viennese sturm und drang of c.1765 - 1775, and the North German empfindsamer Stil were separated not only by geography, and totally different composers, but had only a few superficial similarities - including some common galant features; they were in fact very different. CPE’s music is a very personal and original empfindsamer Stil, characterised by heightened expression, sensitivity, and rousing emotions by musical means. It is most evident in CPE’s keyboard works, though runs through all his music to some degree. CPE is an un-typical case of empfindsamer Stil, the rather more conservative music of Quantz, Benda or Graun with its slightly Italian accent, would be more representative - with these composers, the difference between the two styles is stark. Sturm und drang has entirely different characteristics - my list contains 15 specific features but is too long to reproduce here; a couple of examples would include there is more use of contrapuntal forms, an expansion of forms, different forms, and it is found predominantly in symphonies. Even when directly comparable, CPE’s symphonies Wq 182 or Wq 183, with Haydn’s Symphonies 26, 39, 44, 45, 46, 47, or 49, Mozart 25 (K183), JC Bach Opus 6 No 6 or any relevant Vanhal symphony from the period for example, the difference between the two styles is strikingly evident almost immediately. The shortest explanation of the difference which I use is as follows: empfindsamer Stil = inner sensitivity; Sturm und drang = outward gesture. Hope that helps. .

@@elaineblackhurst1509 very interesting

Gerard OConnell Debussy said something similar about the French Baroque composer Jean Philippe Rameau.

Gerald O'Connell I concur. CPE stirs my heart in an inexplicable way. 🎻

Underrated by whom? Most of the people never heard Maler, Bruckner, the composers of "Les six". Are they underrated?

@@ОлександрКрестін The word ‘underrated’ is much over-used in English on RU-vid in relation to composers; most commentators actually mean less well-known. Additionally, whilst many of the ‘underrated’ and the similar ‘forgotten’ type comments may be true in one country, that is not always true elsewhere in the world. In the case of CPE Bach, I think his status is rather better acknowledged, his music better understood, and it is played more often in Europe than it is perhaps in the US for example.

Apparently Johann Christian is lurking somewhere on RU-vid.

6 years for a reply, but it's California Sunset, by Albert Bierstadt,, 😊

@The MIDI Bach Project Is there a version of this piece in 432 Hz?

+Chris S. *das painting :D

@@Thiefnuker *das Bild

Albert Bierstadt, German-American Painter (1830-1902). This picture is the „Californian Sunset“.

Ah later it gets more early classical, still with some heavy baroque elements.

The transition from Baroque to Classicism lasted from around 1740- 1760. Remember Telemann, and Raemau were still alive and composing in the 1760's. And CPE Bach is generally regarded as a transitional composer

You wrong! God?...please...! C. P. E. Bach is a genious!

what does this have to do with CPE Bach?

Mo Thugs compared to Bach...please, your wasting everyone's time!