Let me share my experience with these and other muzzle loaders as well as the best load combination I have found ! Is one better than the other? What about the CVA Wolf? Is it worth buying?
Missed two does and a buck. That was me this year. Git the targets out and laid three in the bullseye. Not the equipment. Next day i dropped an eight pointer and a large doe
@@tomcurran8470 yeah lol. Needed to tighten up the equipment. My hunting buddy refuses to let it be forgotten too. Forget the fact that I got a huge buck after passing on a doe he was following. He out fishes me too
Thanks for this video. Picking up a used Optima with the thumb hole from a buddy next Friday. I have never even shot a black powder lol Gonna try early season muzzy this October in Iowa. Hoping to get on some of the big boys early. Thank you for this type of chat on this. Cheers !!
You will love it buddy! I tried several loads before I got one that worked best. What I use: 2 Whitehots pellets Powerbelt elr 330 grain bullet Triple seven primers Cheers and good luck buddy!
That was the best piece of information ive come across un any video for bp. I oicked up a wolf back in the spring and haven't shot it yet. I'm glad i waited. Maybe I won't waste so much time with getting it working. Thank so much.
That worked great in my rifle. I have set up the other rifle with the same load and it fit great too! So now both rifles shoot the same load which is great so I don’t have to keep two different setups! I appreciate you watching and commenting! It helps a lot and I greatly appreciate it I hope the information helps you out buddy!
I have the optima v2. Went through same circus with loads. Problem is here in Idaho we have restrictions that say no 209 primers only loose powder and all lead bullets and no optics. After many shots and loads I ended up with 75 grains by volume of triple seven powder shooting a 460 grain no excuses conical bullet with musket cap ignition. (Had to purchase a different breach plug) with a William's peep sight. I can hold a 3 inch groups at 100 yards. I am sure I could tighten that up with a scope. I hunt deer and elk with it. So far I haven't shot an elk but it sure does flatten a deer. I am getting toward the end of my elk chasing days at 65 yrs old but found I have many more opportunities with elk in the muzzle loader season. I really like the v2. I had a long time muzzle loader fellow at the range tell me that powerbelt bullets that are legal here were inadequate and he had wounded a couple of deer that he couldn't recover. At least I avoided that.
If that 330 grain ELR Powerbelt is legal , it’s an absolute hammer buddy! But after all , if what you use works well, I would stick with it! Thanks a lot for watching and leaving your input! Hearing other people’s ideas and experiences helps us all learn! I appreciate it buddy!👍
I've got a wolf I've been looking for a load for deer hunting I'm going to try that and see if it works for me as well as its worked for you thank you for taking time to make this video
Glad I could help buddy! Do me a favor and come back and let me know how it turns out for you? All the input we can get would be fantastic! Might be able to help other folks. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I really appreciate it!👍
I got a cva stag horn in 2001. Great gun. I shot triple 7 pellets and hollow point powerbelts. 10 years never had any issues shot probably 25 deer. I decided to get a new gun and retire my $99 staghorn so I contacted traditions and special ordered an ultralight. Got a Nikon scope in all I spent close to $700. Shot it a few times to sight it. Thought it was good went hunting and did the same you did. Shot one and never found it. Took it home and it wouldn’t group. I spent a lot of money buying and testing but I found what worked. Found the best powder to use is blackhorn 209.
I’m glad it worked out for ya buddy! Sometimes it just takes some time. Thanks for watching and leaving some feedback. I’m sure other viewers will get help from this! Have an awesome day brother !👍
I have an optima and use granulated powder 100 gr with the powerbelt platinum 270 gr aerotip. Only time Ive had a problem siting in is trying to switch to the 50 gr pellets for easier loading. I was all over the target. Was telling a friend of mine that is a gunsmith the problem is was having and he asked if i had done anything different. I told him i switched from powder to pellets. He said go back to powder. I did and was back to normal. Never would have thought it would make a difference, 100 gr powder or 100 gr pellets. It sure did. Love my optima tho. Every deer ive ever shot I dropped them right there, even heart shots.
That’s really good info and feedback buddy! I have had issues with broadcasting the pyrodex pellets and triple 7 pellets in the past. I marked my ram rod so that it seated exactly the same, but every now and then I still had some issues. When I went to the White Hot pellets it seems like they pack and break into a granular form much easier than the others. Plus I only have to use 2 pellets and get speeds that are between the speed of 2 and 3 triple 7 pellets. I’m good with that! Thanks again for watching and leaving a comment buddy! It helps folks who might be having issues to hear more than one opinion! I appreciate it!💯
I put some Lucas gun oil that's blue in color in a one ounce bottle and a small amount of STP oil treatment together. Like 4 to 5 drops of Lucas gun oil and 2 drops of STP oil treatment and mixed them together and put a small amount of the mixture on the threads of the breach plug and you don't have to tighten it really hard just run it up snug not real tight and I don't have any problem's with my breech plug getting stuck. I applied the oil with a Q tip to the treads on my breech plug and it works great for me. I have used slick 50 that came in a small 2 ounce bottle but I can't find it in the stores any more and that was some slick stuff and only took a small film of it.
That’s a good tip! I’ve tried a bunch of breech plug grease with mixed results. I’ll give the Lucas and STP a try. Sometimes the plug comes right out, some times it’s a pain. For me it depends on how many shots before I break it down.
I have the Optima V2 as well. I was contemplating the Accura V2 but decided to try the out the cheaper flavor first. It ended up all in price of $396 shipped to my door with a CVA zipper soft case. It included the scope mount and the Konus Pro 3-9x40 BDC reticle scope. I was leary of the scope but it's actually fantastic! I used T7 to sight in with Hornady 250gr SSTs and I couldn't have been happier. I now shoot Blackhorn 209 loose powder with the same 250gr SSTs. I use the Federal 209A primer with the BH209 due to it being much hotter. At 100 yards I can make one ragged hole. It was about 1.5 inches with T7. Cleaning is much easier with BH209 as well. All in all, like this fine gentleman has said, the CVA Optima V2 is relatively inexpensive and just flat out performs. No need to spend 1k+ on a muzzleloader. Happy hunting and straight shooting!
Like I was saying, in the video, if I could go back, I would still have my wolf! I like the Optima! But it is heavier and doesn’t do anything the wolf didn’t do. I kind of fell victim to my own pet peeve. I feel for the marketing! Thanks for watching and commenting buddy!
The CVA optima is a good rifle and the one I have takes up to 150 gr. Of powder for some light bullets up to 300 gr. Sabot 45cal. Bullets and they are very deadly . And then they are heavy bullet's over 300 gr. And I step back to only 2 white hot pellets that do a fine job delivering them down range and they don't play around they are heavy and deadly and have good accuracy. I always like the sabot bullet because they leave no rifleing on the bullet and the bullet is smooth with less drag .
I’m trying to find a muzzleloader budget friendly and I can hunt mobile and it be dependable and accurate to effectively harvest deer 🦌 out to 100-150 yards ! What cva would you recommend ?
@@cray-z7404 I take it you’re in a state that allows Scopes? If that is the Case the CVA Wolf will do anything you want at those ranges! I just gave away my Optima to a guy who needed a muzzle loader. I still have the Optima V2. At 100-150 the Wolf is a great rifle and not nearly as heavy! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment buddy! I really appreciate it! Merry Christmas!🎄
I have CVA Optima V2 50 cal LR nitride rifle. I like the 28 inch barrel. No issue with blackhorn 209 breech plug. Even after 20 shots. Mine came with a Konus 3x9x40 muzzleloader scope on it. I just upgraded . To a Leupold Ultimate Slam ML 3x9x40mm scope. Trying hornady 290gr bore driver bullets this season. Been shooting hornady 250gr sst bullets. Next season planning on a new ML. Accura LRX 50 cal 30 inch barrel.
I might use my Optima as a partial trade to get an Accura . But my V2 is like butter on a biscuit! I love it!👊😁 Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! I appreciate it!😁👍👊
@@Hunting4Hookers my CVA Optima V2 50 cal LR nitride rifle. It's a keeper for sure. I would add the Accura LRX 50 cal. My wife likes to hunt also. I was at bass pro outlet store in Springfield Mo. I fount the hornady 290gr bore driver bullets. They had 6 packs for 15.00 per pack. I bought all 6 packs.
I've also got the Optima V2 LR and love it. Don't know if I just got lucky or they all shoot as good as mine does, but it's very accurate. Mine was the nitrated and cero coated barrel with the thumbhole stock with the Camo like yours and the Konas Pro scope that came with it. I bought mine from Walmart on clearance and it still was high, but I think it's the highest priced Optima they make, so still happy with it. I've also got a plain Jane Wolf and love it too. Open sights. About as good of a brush gun as you could ever ask for. Also own an OLD Hunterbolt Magnum that came to me from a pawn shop for $109.00 and had a never shot .50 and a very good condition .45 barrel with it, plus a whole box full of accessories. Last purchase was from the same pawn shop, and it was a Traditions Vortex Striker fire. It is also camo, cero coated, and had a Nicon MZ drop compensating scope on it. $350.00 for that one and I love it too. It doesn't specify Long Range on it but had a long barrel. Quick remove breach plug. Haven't shot it enough to form an opinion on accuracy but seems to be pretty accurate. Your Firestar pellets are thirty-three grains each, that's why it takes three to equal a one hundred grain equivalent load. I shoot four, they kick, believe me. I get good accuracy out of them, but I also shoot several other powders.
I was shooting 3 , 50 grain 777 pellets and they would rock the heck out of my shoulder! I went to 2 Whitehots and a 330 grain bullet and the velocity drop was no where near as bad as I assumed it would be! I’m going to be 100 max shots here in these mountains on the east coast, and that is extremely optimistic! Thanks a lot for watching and leaving a comment brother! It helps a lot and I greatly appreciate your input!
I just purchased the CVA Accura MR-X Nitride Cerakote in veil alpine camo yesterday at my local Fin Feather and Fur. Man this is an awesome looking muzzleloader. I hope it lives up to the hype! I did a ton of research and it seems CVA has it all over Traditions when it comes to backing up their products. Can’t wait to shoot it this weekend!!
@@robertwhite3752 That’s awesome buddy! I’ll bet I have 1000 rounds through my older Optima and it’s still going great! The newer V2 is just a prettier version! I hope you have many years of enjoyment with your new rifle!👍
Iv got the optimal v2 I use triple 7 an tc 245 grain bullets and it puts them in the same hole at 100 I love it I had a wolf but it was a pain to clean alway had a hard time getting breach plug out but it was just as accurate wit the same loads I'm using the federal 209 mz primers
Good deal man! I had thought about selling my older Optima and buying an Accura. But if it ain’t broke I’m not gonna fix it! I love the Optima’s! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment buddy! I appreciate it!👍
Brother I'm living your story!!! This is DJ with SuburbanHunt365. I'm going through all the combo testing that you spoke about and you ain't kidding the money spent is unreal!!! You mentioned you used a chronograph for your test and I'm curious what FPS you got. I'm my experience the Winchester T7 Muzzleloader primer is one the, if not the single most, slowest primers out there. Granted my test was with Black Horn 209 at 70gr by weight, in my opinion its the only powder cleaner then the White Hots. Regardless the ELR is second in group size only to the Hornady Bore Drivers, which you mentioned. The only thing that I see the Optima V2 has over the Optima is that CVA recommends the loose powder plug when using loose powder of any kind. I plan to put that to the test very soon with both pellets and loose powder. Full disclosure I'm a reloader and because of that I LOVE the loose powder aspect as I can dial in a load for any combo. Myself I went from the Wolf straight to the Optima V2. I loved you video and would love the opportunity to touch base with you and maybe get you out to Tennessee and hunt with you. Love what you are doing keep it up brother. Best of luck in the hunting woods. PS the main difference that I found between the blue and the black tipped ELR projectiles is the Blue are 45cal and the Black are 50cal. Interesting that you said they shot the same out or your Optima V2.
I tried the Blackhorn 209 and didn’t actually see the benefit being worth the time and money to do it. ( My Opinion) The Whitehots are the cleanest burning and most reliable of all the pellets I’ve used. Chrono speeds were more consistent as well. My average speed was in the low 1600 fps with a 330 grain ELR. The differential between slowest and fastest was less than 20 FPS. I just tested it a few weeks ago on my Optima and got about the same performance. I picked the scope up 7 clicks and rock and roll! I take both muzzle loaders so that I have a backup! I totally gave up on the new 777 pellets! It takes 3 to equal 100 grains and bullets we’re all over the place.
East TN boy here, I just bought the optima V2 LR. First muzzleloader, I’m excited for this gun. I’m starting with the white hots and I got 2 bullets to try both were hornady because of availability this late in the season. One is the hollow point you referenced 245 grain I think and then the boredriver at 295. Sighting in today. Thank you both for your time and resources!
@@suburbanhunt3653 I didn’t get to do muzzle loader season because I have a boogered up knee. If I can get the freezer full with the rifle, I’m gonna pull the muzzle out the rest of the season! Thanks for your comment buddy!👍👊
My Optima V2 using 80 gr of Blackhorn 209 and 290 gr Barnes Spitfire is a tack driver at 100 yards with peep sights. I can cloverleaf 3 rounds all day with this combo.
I have a regular optima with the fluted barrel non thumb regular stock. I found the white hots and heavier power belt shot better also and easy to clean...
I have the optima but it has a fluted barrel and the removable breech plug. I guess I caught the end of the production run before they switched to the V2
I think the “upgrades” that came with the V2 are merely for marketing. The V1 is an awesome rifle! The only “better” thing that matters to me is the breach plug! Have a good one buddy! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I really appreciate it!👊
I have a V2 I guess that I was lucky with the loads . I use Hornady 240gr hollow points with 2 IMR white hots and get golf ball size gourps easy .The Hornady SST 250gr works well also these are sabot type bullets
That’s cool! I’ll take being a little lucky any day buddy! Thanks for your feedback buddy! It helps for everyone to see and hear different folks experience!👊🏻
I had good luck with accuracy on the green powerbelts! But I had a couple of deer shot at close range that didn’t bleed much and were never found and I know the shots were good because they hit hard and the deer ran with the front leg dangling so I know I hit the shoulder. Almost an extra 100 grains in the bullet hits a lot harder and causes more mushroom effect ! I think for my distances and and setup they work awesome! Let me know how it does for you! I appreciate you watching and leaving a comment! 👍🏻💯👊🏻
I am considering on picking up the Optima V2 because it's cheaper then the accura and it's has a blued barrel instead of the stainless. How accurate is it?
I have the Optima and Optima V2. Both rifles are very accurate!! I can’t say anything about the Accura because I’ve never owned one to be honest. I can shoot 2inch groups at 100 and don’t see a muzzle loader doing much better’s Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! It helps a lot and I really appreciate it buddy!
I have a cba optima v2 LR I shot the black horn powder and it shoots great I did have to play with the charge to find what it likes but once I found it have no problem shooting less than 2in groups at200yards
That’s great! The Blackhorn is great . The main reason I went to white hots was ease of measurement and clean burning . My shots are rarely over 60 yards , but it’s a tack driver at 100. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I appreciate it buddy!👊
As far as " I've GOT to have " it .. bigger & better every year , goes , just think about this ... Daniel Boone grew old shooting " old Betse " ( a 41 cal percussion rifle ) ! BTW likely as not His Life depended on it !!!
Couldn’t agree more! But I will bet that if Daniel Boone had the option to own a modern muzzle loader with pellet powders , 209 primers and powerbelts he would have done it!😁
And lube the treads with Lucas that's really slick and only put a little on your treads and finger tighten it and that's tight enough. Don't torx in down tight it's made to seal at finger tight.
Cool deal buddy!👍🏻😁 If you see this would you mind posting the amount of powder and bullet type and grain? Might be some folks reading this who want to try your setup!👊🏻💯👍🏻
When I had my wolf I noticed it a little bit when I would go hunt for multiple days and leave my gun loaded for up to a week. When I got the first optima and was using triple seven pellets, I didn’t notice the problem too much or at all About four years ago, I loaned my Optima to a buddy because he didn’t have a muzzleloader and I had just got the optimal V2. He brought the rifle back to me and said he shot it and cleaned it. I just pulled the rifle out of the case, and set it back in my safe. The next year I got both muzzleloaders out before the season to check them, and the Optima was still loaded! They do hadn’t shot it or cleaned it I noticed the discoloration in the bottom of the barrel, but no real pitting. I guess the stainless barrel saved it I just started with a white hots last summer, and only hunted with the V2. The only thing I’ve noticed so far is that the muzzleloader is super easy to clean with the white hots. Thanks for the comment, buddy!
@@Hunting4Hookers I bet your right about the stainless steel part. Thanks for replying. I shoot blackhorn 209 powder with power belts in my muzzle loader
@@turckskidoo I tried the Blackhorn and it was great! I used a powder measure to measure it and was told it was even better when weighed out. It was expensive and more time consuming than the White Hots. Yes I’m a bit lazy!😂 If I were to concentrate on longer shots and grouping , I would definitely be using the Blackhorn . That stuff is awesome! But hunting where a 100 yard shot is unusual and the easy convenience of pellets pulled me in. Thanks a lot for watching and leaving a comment buddy! I do greatly appreciate it!
The Optima has a screw in that requires a tool. The Optima V2 has a knurled breach plug that you can remove with your fingers. That’s the biggest difference between the rifles other than cosmetic stuff Thanks for watching and leaving the comment. I greatly appreciate it brother! 👊🏻
@@waderigsbee6923 It’s a huge deal! Especially if something happens in the field and it requires you to Feild stop your muzzle loader and clean it! Thanks for your input buddy! I appreciate it!👊🏻💯👍🏻
I love the cerakote! Just can’t bring myself to buy a third muzzle loader ! Might end up selling my V1 and buying a TC Hawken ! I love those old smoke poles!
I currently don't own a black powder rifle . I kinda like the idea of owning one . My thoughts are , this is the only gun You don't have to buy commercial ammo for ( in a pinch , You can make Your own black powder ) . I like the idea of a flintlock rifle for the same reason. ( there may be a time percussion caps may be hard to get . My thoughts of a hawken style rifle would be the best choice.. fifty cal. for ease of finding commercial ammo when available. ( hopefully this gun will shoot both conical and round ball ammo w/ same powder ) . Any recommendations ( both gun and twist rate ) ?
Honestly I’ve never owned a flintlock . They seem like an awesome choice but all I’ve ever dealt with were precision cap and shotgun primer muzzle loaders. I had a TC Hawken Cap rifle that was awesome! But traded it off years ago like a dummy! Let me know what you come up with! The idea of owning a flintlock is awesome!!
@@Hunting4Hookers I tell Myself that I could make the ammo & powder for it in a pinch . But , the cold hard truth of it is , it would be a safe Queen ( after the Maiden voyage to the range ) .
@@johnhoward7298 Might be a fun project to make a batch and take it to the range with you! Burn some oak and salt Peter and whatever else is involved. It would be fun!
@@Hunting4Hookers I found a hawken style percussion rifle in a pawn shop today ( 12/12/23 ) . Didn't have a brand on it that I could see . It just has a warning & made in Spain stamped in the barrel . ( and 50 cal )
Did you buy it? It’s either a CVA or Traditions. Both are great Hawken style rifles!! If it’s an affordable price and good condition I would grab it! Make sure you shine a light down the barrel first. Make sure it isn’t horribly pitted with rust . A little is ok. It will work its self out shooting and cleaning it a few times.
That breach plug should not be hard at all to remove. None of mine are with just a little bit of anti-seize on them. I want to say someone has overtightened it and caused it to leak gas back into the threads gumming it up after a few shots. The seal on them is set the first time they are installed, and you do not want to get carried away with it or they will leak when finger tightened as they are intended to be. The answer is probably to buy a new breach plug, (they are not very expensive), and don't overtighten it the first time it's put into the breach. If the gun will close easily, it's tight enough and it will seal correctly. I've got a Traditions Vortex Striker fire and the breach plug on it is sealed with a small O-ring. I've already bought five extras anticipating problems with that. Although after about twenty-five shots I've had no problem with it yet, but you can see a small amount of carbon does find its way past it. I don't like that design, but on the other hand the Traditions breach plug screws out with only three turns where the CVA's take about thirty.
I’ve seen that Traditions plug and it has a really fast thread pitch in it! My brother in law has one. Since I’ve been using the Optima V2 I don’t really have any issues. I borrowed a tap at work and chased the treads out. It’s been beautiful since. I have a new plug for my Optima , just haven’t used it yet. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment buddy! It helps a lot and I really appreciate it!👍👊
Thanks Carl! Tried a little different than what is usually on these videos . We’ll see how it does. Think I’m gonna need to get a chronograph and do some shooting and data videos. Have a good one buddy !
@@Hunting4Hookers hey I'm back lol, I enjoyed it giving your opinion on rifles you own, prudy good man. The next one you talked about accuracy would be a good subject, good luck with it 👍
@@1Whitetail Thanks bud! I had no idea I would start a RU-vid channel. I could have tons of stuff on video! That’s cool though, I’m doing my videos, showing my opinion, and the gun itself. That should make shooting and accuracy videos a little shorter. I’m looking forward to get started shooting and getting ready for deer season! I’m going to video all that stuff!😁 Thanks buddy I appreciate it!
@@1Whitetail I’m looking at some chronographs. I’m a little ignorant on the subject. The one my buddy has that was shot through is a Caldwel, and that’s pretty much all I know about it. I may get one! The older Optima is still set up with the original stuff I was using. I would be interested to know what the speed is compared to the ELR bullets with white hots, and the old set up! I think I’ll do that! Thanks for watching and commenting buddy! I really appreciate it!
Those firestar pellets I don't like them because all the air space in those groves and you know what air space in chambers or bullet shells do. I don't think it's safe to have that much air space in the chamber and I think it would be like not loading enough powder in a shell casing and seating a bullet and leaving a air space which is dangerous. And loading a muzzle loader rifle and not seating the bullet all the way to the powder is dangerous and could cause high dangerous chamber pressure . that's why I don't like those firestar pellets that's a lot of air space that I think would be dangerous and the ones I tried didn't work well with bullet groups that I had useing the firestar pellets. I went back to the triple 7 pellets and they worked very well for me and had a tight group. And then I tried the white hot pellets and they are amazing I went from a 2and 3 inche group at 100 yards with the triple 7 to a 1 and half inch group useing white hot pellets and I always use sabot 300 gr. Hornady 45 cal. Bullets. I have been thinking about trying Thor bullets because they say they are very very accurate and that's what I am looking for the most accurate bullets I can get for my CVA optima 150 magnum and I found out 150 gr.three pellets are good for certain bullets but not all bullet types. I get the best accuracy useing two 50 gr. White hot pellets and useing Winchester triple 7 . 209 primers. I have tried different shot gun 209 primers and they all made my bullet groups different. I have used Remington 209. Federal 209. But to beat them all I started reloading my 209 primers with large magnum CCI pistol primers and I think I got the right combination all my rounds are consistent and really good grouping and seems like my barrel stays cleaner with the white hot pellets. I always every shot swab my barrel and keep it nice and clean and it is so easy to load and I have way better groups on paper.and when I load my rifle I use a bore mop with bore butter and lightly grease the barrel just a light film of bore butter and when I make my shot I use a cleaning rod with a patch and wipe out the barrel then lightly grease it with a patch just enough to put a film in the barrel. Load my pellets and then my bullet and push it home and it always pushes really good. Then I lube in front of my bullet with a light amount of bore butter. I think what helped me the most was when I bought my rifle my father and myself lap my barrel before I ever fired a shot through it. We laped and polished my barrel with 2000 grit bore Polish and it looks like a mirror down through the barrel and the rifleing looks great. My father told me look down your barrel when I first got it. Hold the light down at the breech and look down the muzzle end and I did and he said see those little scratches and rough edges on the land's of the rifleing we need to polish those out and that will get rid of those little Burr's on the land's also and it will shoot really well and be easier to load and clean. And my father was a good man and I'm glad he taught me things like laping and polishing a barrel because it makes a whole lot better shot . He told me all those high end rifles they have a man stand there and lap and polish those barrels and the lower end guns don't get laped and polished that's why they are cheaper and the higher end guns cost more and shoot better because it has been laped and polished and they are all the same kind of barrels just and the only difference is the ones that cost more and shoot better has been laped and polished. And I remember when I was real young my father and my uncle would be in my uncle machine shop polishing barrels and then my uncle and my father would go to a rifle tournament and shoot. I wish he was still with me because they was so much more I needed to learn from him. Hey if you decide to polish a rifle barrel don't pull your polishing swab out of the barrel stop right before the muzzle end and then push back the other way and it only takes about 40 push and 40 pulls and then clean your barrel really good and it will look so nice like polished chrome and will shoot really good and less lead and copper fouling. And we always use 2000 grit and 2500 grit that only polishes it doesn't cut
That’s some good stuff buddy!👍 I’ve polished the barrel on center fire rifles with great results! Never tried it on a muzzle loader. Our only muzzle loader season is early with tons of leaves and foliage here in the mountains of SC. A 60 yard shot is about the norm. If I were shooting longer range I might take the time. I sight in and hold 2.5”groups consistently at 100 yards . Good stuff you wrote there though! Good food for thought!
Get the black horn 209 breech plug, and use black horn powder, with the 330 gr. ELR bullet. I bet it will shoot better than your load. Out of the optima v2.
I’ve tried the black horn and it shoots great! But for my groupings and purposes I’m hooked on the White Hot pellets. Thanks for watching and leaving your comment and input buddy! I really appreciate it!👊🏻🤘🏼💯
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Update to my last comment these groups at 100meters that's 330 feet for you Americans I found no benefit to using 3 pellets the 240 hollow points are meat grinders the 250 sst seem to have little blood trail thanks
There's no difference in the black tip and the blue tip . They may have had a shortage on blue polymer and just used black polymer it's all the same grade polymer. I've got some of the same and I can't tell any difference. I really wouldn't care if they were Brite orange long as they shoot the same. And your breech plug try cleaning it with a bronze brush
Thanks Greg. I actually gave my second one to a young feller I’m trying to get started hunting. Trust me the Wolf is as good a muzzle loader as you will ever find!!
To be honest, in this situation I think having an older style breech plug with a tool is the answer. The knurled finger plug is a great idea but is a bigger pain in the butt after a few rounds than simply using a tool. I’m going to pay attention to that problem using the white hots and see if it’s actually better than it was with the triple seven pellets . I know that the white hots burn a lot cleaner and make it easy to clean the muzzle loader! Thanks for the comment buddy!
@@Hunting4Hookers easier to clean is always good. I have shot some bullets that I can't remember right now. When I cleaned my gun. It was dirty. So, I will not be buying that ammo again.
I beg to differ.😂 A muzzle loader is loaded through the muzzle. Hence the name “muzzleloader”!😂 I’m just picking at ya buddy! We don’t have to share the same opinions about stuff. That makes it fun!
REALLY ALL I DID WAS ACTUALLY CORRECT MYSELF I DON'T HAVE TWO CVA'S EXACTLY LIKE YOURS WHICH I INITIALLY KINDA SORTA STATED. I HAVE WHAT I SAID IN MY SECOND POST AN ACCURA V2 AND A OPTIMA V2 WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MZ LOADERS YOU HAVE. IF YOU LOOK I POSTE TWICE ONE ABOVE THE OTHER DOES THAT MAKE EVERTHING AS CLEAR AS MUD??@@Hunting4Hookers
percussion cap guns need REAL BP, that was fail #1. drilling out the nipple causes excess gas pressure to blow the hammer back, fail #2. thats where I quit watching.
Lesson #1 When drilling out a nipple, just go a few thousandths bigger, so it doesn’t blow your hammer back. Lesson #2 State why you left after number two😁 Is it because other RU-vidrs say so, and literally have no clue what they’re talking about? Have an awesome day anyway, buddy! 👍🏻💯👊🏻
@@Hunting4Hookers Black powder substitutes are harder to ignite, that's why it's not commonly used in percussion rifles.. slow or no ignition. test burn them yourself, it's evident. I shoot inline when I have to, but mostly traditional, I make my own BP because of hangfires with substitutes in percussion and flint rifles.
