Not even just Natlan, but arguably the whole game if we’re just looking at damage, and if the pyro archon really is gonna be a pyro applying mega-support of some kind
IMO that would probably be too OP. Would leave everyone so far behind, and would likely make Neuvilette a reliable Vape carry too which is the last thing we need
nice vid! will probably pick Mualani up on a rerun anyway but it would be great to hear your thoughts about her clunkiness and if you noticed any improvement after the fix patch?
Both her normal and burst are A LOT better now and you gonna hardly miss any of her sharkbites and bursts. Her clunkiness isn't really that important compare to her output damage. With C0R0 i scored 1 million damage. She is INSANE
Hitting 1 million per normal attack is actually insane, I really hope mavuika is an ATK buffer or a DPS, otherwise Mavuika/Neuvillette will become way too broken
She's more likely to replace XL in the team where you only care about her pyro application than to powercreep either Bennet or XL completly. Also we had 3 pyro main dps in Fontaine and I don't think an Archon will be as restrictive in their buffs as to only boost ATK (compared to RES shred, ER, EM or DMG). If anything I actually think that' they're gonna make mavuika for the Neuv/Mualani/Navia/Kinich team and she's not gonna improve the national or Lyney/Arlecchino team as much as some ppl anticipate. I think it's more likely that Pyro MC end up as the Bennet alternative (maybe 3/4 of his ATK buff, no heal and less particle generation but no circle impact)
She would have to be better than one of kazuha/xilonen/furina for her to help neuvillette team, which is very unlikely to happen no matter what she does.
Saw some sus thing but it makes sense Her buff will be like Bennett ( scaling on her base attack ) but instead of buffing attack she just add her base attack multiplier to the damage formula of her allies ( like Xilonen c4 / healing Fontaine set / Xianyun plunge buff iirc ) That would work with anyone no matter what they scale on
The funny part is the fact that this is not crit fish or any weird depict of mualani’s performance in abyss, mualani is the easiest character ever to have high crit, to the point i got like 100% crit rate without even searching for it 😂
As per Jello Impact, Xilonen makes Neuvillette and Mualani teams top-top meta, high above any other teams in Genshin. So, I am probably convinced to try to create a new team :)
Jello is great for his takes and team testing,, but he gets his math from channels like this, Zajef, and TGS. I definitely enjoy what he does but I'd cite a TC before him
Assuming Mavuika can replace Xiangling and we move towards double Hydro, is Mona ever a good option over Candace? Mostly looking at not having to invest in a whole new character if I can help it.
pretty sure if your goal is fast clears Candace is still better because of her fast animations, but if you just want to play Mualani in a double hydro team Mona should work well assuming no vape steals from her skill
Yelan is also good(especially if you have elegy) only problem is pyro auro can't be maintained without xiangling's burst. So you have to use xl burst every rotation (yelan also helps with chasing the enemies)@@jamiekb9v
What is better, furina c2 or kazuha c2? For furina i've been trying to set heal pet to avoid stealing vapes, but not sure if kazuha setup its just simpler and worth it
You can most definitely guarantee both xilonen and pyro archon pretty much no matter what. As long as you can guarantee xilonen in the first place Let's say it takes you all of the first half to pull xilonen and it takes you every single wish and your entire map is explored, no primos You still have second half, plus next update, which is a map expansion so atleast add 80 wishes there and then the 5.3 patch first half 5.1 second half+ 5.3 first half is 70-80 more wishes very very probably. And that's a guarantee But it's likely gonna be more than what I'm saying Plus, I know your entire map isn't 100. And also star glitter, if you're a 10 pull away from guaranteed mavuika, you use the star glitter no question
i don't know if i'm building her wrong (as my stats are close to his if he didn't used her signature), but running her at Natlan craftable R5 does 500k at best on my account (i didn't tried instructor set on XL, but seens interesting so i will try later), i know her signature is busted, but is that large of difference to double the damage on 12-3-1?
@@jamiekb9v i tried Widsith + XL on instructor + Sucrose and got 680k bite at the best, and consistentely got 480 ~ 500k, it was a really good improvement
Is it worth it to level up Candace C4 for Mualani if I have Yelan, Mona C1 and Furina C1 all build and level up ? I also have Nilou, but many hydro to play on her team already.
One biggest upside in using Sucrose over Kazuha is her burst buffing em works off field, so it is 100% uptime of huge em buff to Mualani whereas kazuha absorbing pyro with his burst buffs pyro dmg instead, so he is only able to buff hydro dmg with his skill only for 8 secs which runs out quite quickly in the rotation. Also Sucrose em buff is just more stats in an equilibrium, cuz with sag frags and the same amount of em stats in artifact, she is able to buff more than what kazuha buffs with his dmg bonus. Its about 40% dmg bonus vs 240 em. 40% dmg bonus is not even one goblet main stat while 240 em is way more than what you get with em sands or goblet which is 187 em. So yeah Sucrose is goated support for Mualani.
@@jamiekb9v For that, he needs to swirl the right element off field. He can only extend the buff with his burst if the enemy has underlying auras eg: electro charge teams. In Mualani team, after you absorb pyro with kazuha burst, you are never going to have hydro aura on the enemy again, so all he will do is swirl pyro off field to give pyro dmg bonus, so the only buff he can give to Mualani is 8 secs of hydro dmg bonus with his skill.
@@jamiekb9v Yeah but thats for hardcore sweaty spd runners and requires another hydro unit in the team, and the one showed in this video is also not double hydro either. Using Candace and Kazuha means now you are also sacrificing Xilonen. You are also sacrificing precious off field pyro app source uptime if you are doing those strats. Basically, you are gaining something to lose something again. Only thing he is good for Mualani is grouping otherwise his buffs are the worst among every other alternative for Mualani.
I think for casual player c0r0 even if mualani are better, arlecchino she "more" easy to use than mualani, but with scaling mualani c1r1 Can outclear arlecchino c6r1, so yeah mualani have def the best C1 ever
First off, amazing video! Second, how much dmg loss would not having xiangling on petra or instructor be? I have all the other pieces but can't be bothered to switch xiangling off 4 piece emblem lol. Cheers!
it kinda offsets with the damage you get from Xiangling but that being sustained rather than a big nuke you obviously lose more time with her on emblem. As long as you get your vapes and maybe have Xiangling on an atk sands you should be alright assuming you have enough er to burst every rotation
Even as a more casual player with only a decent mualani, I find the sucrose xilonen xiangling team to be a significant fun improvement over every other mualani team. The setups are relatively easy and I get to see the boss healthbar go 40% yellow with one attack My mualani is only 33k hp, 48cr 212cd with r5 widsith with talent lvls 8 and 5 for skill and burst. I easily cleared top half of the new abyss with one rotation per wave, and only like 5 quick retries on the first chamber in order not get attack on widsith for the first consecrated beast and not miss a crit for the second
My Mualani doesn't hit remotely as hard. I don't have her signature, and I use Kachina instead of Xilonen. Does that really make the difference between 400k and 800k dmg? :o
I'm using c0 xiangling too. And I will say that this is probably one of the less C4 dependent teams. Very often just 10 seconds of pyro application per rotation will be enough.
@@italomorais9424 Its probably because my Mualani items are trash+crafteable weapon. So I dont have the necessary damage to burst as fast to make me up for the downtime in the rotation. But Im open to suggestions. I run Mualani+XL+Xilonen, the 4th its Kazuha, Suc or Candace, I cant make up my mind on wich one I prefer yet.
Do you've Mona? She's really good with her.. hydro resonance and 56% DMG bonus plus I use instructor and fav on her(c1) I got really good results.. @@sabotagge9155
Don’t worry. Arlecchino, Mavuika, and Chevy, and either Ororon or Iansan; as the electro character. Would make a perfect Overload team and would be the 2nd if not the 1st best team in the game. Don’t worry you’re on the right bar. (also the game is very easy…’
@@manday2267 That's a lot of future impact on character we have no idea about lol, It's like saying "Arlecchino Bennet Citlali TsaristaBronya" forward vape teams is gonna be broken
please remember the abyss blessing giving 80% DMG bonus to skill DMG and Normal atk DMG she is strong but it's not an accurate representation of her real DMG
you realize she already dumpstered everyone in 4.8 abyss even tho she had no blessing, sig set or crowned talents? and now this abyss she’s more than 10s faster at c0r0 than c1r1 neuv
I admit I hate swirling, so I definitely pick Candace. So I guess I'll try Petra sets on Xiangling to upgrade my Mualani team. My Xiangling use random sets rn just to have 245+ ER 😂😂😂.
The only requirements for xiangling is to get 2 peice emblem with crit mask and er sans. 235-250 for single guoba and around 210-230 for double guoba setups. If you can manage to fit double guoba xianglign can use instructor which is insane.
I know she's strong but I don't like her play style, having to ride an unstable and unpredictable shark to attack. Give me a straightforward character where I know where I am relative to enemies and can find target easily and hit.
Unpredictable where? You get to control when you do the shark attack cause it only appears at max stacks. Instability very rarely occurs, and only happens due to the current problem with auto targeting system and not just a Mualani problem alone.
@@lehang5840 Unpredictable because, her AOE is very limited by enemy positioning. Her stack generation is also reliant on boss movement, her teams get screwed by arua manipulation and missing a single vape can make you need to do another rotation and lose 27% of your total damage. Along with that you often overkill an enemy who has 50k hp with a 400k nuke and if you run furina her vape consistency is extremely bad.
@@lehang5840 shark waivers around while moving. Fine for over world, don't like it while fighting. And hey, what do you care? Enjoy your surfer chick, I prefer Arlecchino
funny enough in your last video you mainly user Kazuha + Kachina, and i thought that Sucrose was way easier to play with Kachina, and now that Xilonen released, the video is mainly using Sucrose + Xilonen, and here i am thinking that Kazuha is way easier to play with Xilonen lol Not that make that changing them make the team unplayable, they're both really good
Unlike you, he's forming his own opinions about Xilonen and her value where as you and other idiots would Parrot TCers who have not even played or experience her personally the past month. Sit down.
I don't know why you don't note the abyss blessings in the intro when you make a showcase like this. People will point it out anyway and not including it yourself just makes you look bad for no good reason.
So many meta slaves who skipped her planning to pull Mualani on her rerun ,they don't even like the character. Had she not been this strong they wouldn't even have thought of pulling her😂...
I loved her day1, and After planty of nerf she get during the beta i still pulled for her and she was predicted as a "good/ok dps" and its kinda funny now she like maybe top 1 dps monocible rn, and have a good multicible
Even now, Mualani hasn't released her full potential, hier passive requires a maximum of 3 Natlan characters and then there are clowns who keep degrading Mualani by saying "she got this buff, she got that buff."
Pretty high levels of copium here saying Xiangling will be heavily out classed by Mavuika. She's been the Kazuha of pyro since day 0 and Kazuha didn't go anywhere with the relase of his surpasser
i never said xiangling would be heavily out classed in fact I made a video titled "Why Genshin may not Powercreep Bennett or Xiangling in Natlan" saying the exact opposite. In this video i'm just saying she might work well with Mualani. please get your ears checked
@@jamiekb9v ridiculous response. You said to potentially skip Xilonen who is very likely a higher dps increase to Mualani than what Mavuika is to her compared to XL
@@doggypoofy1390 yeah we don't know anything about Mavuika, she could be a main dps for all we know. Maybe an atk buffer Bennett replacement. Maybe zero off field abilities. What we do know however is what Xilonen does and she does a lot