Cadian Upgrade Kit Review-Is it worth it?

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With the release of the new Cadian Upgrade kit sent to me by ‪@officialwarhammer‬, I wanted to see what models could be made, upgraded or whether the kit was worth getting for people investing in the new Cadian force! I loved the previous Black Templar upgrade kit and I expect to see more kits like this coming out in the future, so are they all worth it? Would love to know your thoughts after the video!
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@irllordy Год назад

The cadian upgrade sprue allows you to make a cadian themed veteran guardsman kill team with all the specialists, if you don't like the krieg kit. Surprised they don't mention that more.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Here did you read that! That’s so cool. I never knew?

@irllordy Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies I saw it on reddit. But actually after doublechecking, it's not quite all, you need a spare bolter and long-las for the confident and the sniper. But between the upgrade and base cadian kit, you can represent almost all of the options (or just use drum autogun and scoped lasgun)

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

@@irllordy still very interesting.

@irllordy Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies Yeah. Explains why theres a medic anyway :)

@AuthorSurrogate Год назад

Yeah, if I wasn’t into the Krieg look I’d be using the new Shocktroopers and this upgrade sprue for a Cadian Vet Guard team

@blitzburn2871 Год назад

In my experience Imperial Guard really benefits from having a few more eyecatching lads dotted in among the regular infantrymen and I think this is where this kit would really come in handy. If you get one of these for every handful of regular squads to work in some personalities here and there, mix up some different poses for HWT teams and field ordanance crews and distinct officers you can really keep a army from becoming a big tide of samey green, especially if you get a bit creative with the bits. It is arguably more aimed toward people like me who aspires for large and infantry heavy armies than someone who want a smaller, more neatly themed army.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes I agree. And I’m like you, so so many infantry. So this is a great box for me.

@jasonpeacock9735 Год назад

I think the respirator helmets would look great as head swaps on the Rough Riders

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes im they would look so good.

@johnkelley9877 Год назад

Thanks for the review. This helps out a lot and I appreciate your honest thoughts on it.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks so much, glad you liked the video!

@Cadia541st Год назад

Love your breakdown. One note on this kit. Those extra body's added to a cadian shock squad and mixed with a heavy weapon team and extra 50mm bases would allow the build of a heavy team propper, a heavy team in the cadians squad and an extra heavy team. Per 3 shock squads and a single heavy team box and three upgrade kits you could potentially build 9 heavy teams instead of 3

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That’s an interesting point. Hmm.

@ovan2190 Год назад

As someone who likes having a lot of diffrent head options I'm a bit excited for this one, I can see the downside to this definitely but I think there is some good in this, I'm also a fan of the Map reader, I can see him jokingly placed in so many random armies as if he got lost trying to find his squad. I'll agree Upgrade seems like a stretch maybe accessory or add-on would have been a better name for the box Great video as always Andy :)

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

There is for sure some good in it I liken a lot of it.

@jaanikaapa6925 11 месяцев назад

The tank mechanic reminds me of the Battlefield games where the mechanic is riding with tanks and blowtorching it.

@MediocreHobbies 11 месяцев назад

Hahhaha it so does.

@mickholohan4266 Год назад

Guy with the map reminds me of someone about to make a list for mcdonalds take away. "What do you want from mickey dees, bud?"

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

“Is the breakfast still going?”

@fransaacs 4 месяца назад

Used a gift voucher to pick up the Cadian upgrade sprue, so much of it has found it's way into two kill team builds for Veteran Guard and Kasrkins. Great stuff.

@MediocreHobbies 4 месяца назад

Cheers pal.

@jackdigan6024 Год назад

I’ve always been a big fan of the Gw upgrade spurs would love to see your thoughts on the kromlech or spellcrow bits

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Soon.

@tien65 Год назад

love some of the arm pose like the one holding his auto gun up reminds me of rambo but the heads with respirators, think want to use them for my guardsman or the rough riders.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Great choices. And yes some really nice parts.

@Rottenflieger. Год назад

I really like the look of this kit. For an army like guard having extra poses and bits is fantastic as squads will start to look very same-y after a few boxes. It wasn't as much of a problem with the old cadians as they were fairly light on detail but these newer kits are often posed so uniquely or have such visually distinctive gear that it becomes really easy to spot duplicate models. Death Guard are a good example of this too. Glancing at any collection of death guard models will inevitably turn up 3-4 of the "lab coat poxwalker" or plague marine with antlers, which for me often messes with immersion. Parts like the medic I think are brilliant because many people will want multiple command squads in their force, and having to use the same medic every time isn't ideal. That's why I quite like how the Krieg kit has 2 medic options. I'm a big fan of making command squads out of regular infantry boxes so if I was collecting cadians this would be brilliant.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

You are correct and army that has that many squads it is for sure good to get all the extra poses. I love the kit.

@Kingofdragons117 7 месяцев назад

That Tank Commander really makes me want a Tank Commander version of the Rogal Dorn.

@MediocreHobbies 7 месяцев назад

Yes please!!

@rogerhack3750 Год назад

I've gotten the upgrade set for the cadians just to doodle around with the new shock troops. You know, kinda getting to create some characters for let's say a kill team. But i do see the point for being a luxury on a set that has already a lot of options on its own.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes! I think for converting to a kill team, it’s a great set for making specialists. It was just a weird one to bring out (first, if we’re getting a series?) when we just got all new models

@Ciznupmul 7 месяцев назад

I used the cadian upgrade to convert my rough riders haha - I liked the idea of the rough riders having the gas masks since they're riding into all my artillery fire I need to keep them healthy!

@MediocreHobbies 7 месяцев назад

Oh that’s a good idea.

@broncofun5636 Год назад

The respirator heads are great

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes they are I need many more.

@robtyler1466 Год назад

I was hoping it would come with extra special weapons to arm my older kits with plasma melta etc other than the flamer glauncher the kit came with

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That would be nice. But no. Unfortunately

@travisjohnson622 Год назад

The medic bits we're included to make a cadian version of the veteran guardsman killteam i believe.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I’ve had a few people say that but there isn’t enough parts to do it. Like a sniper rifle for instance.

@Sgt-lott10 8 месяцев назад

@@MediocreHobbiesthey're probably gonna make a Cadian sniper set but make it overpriced

@travisjohnson622 6 месяцев назад

A question about the "sargent" bits included, the belt fed autogun. Is this meant to be a different weapon option than the drum fed autogun? Does it have differing stats? or does it just counts as drum?

@MediocreHobbies 6 месяцев назад

Nope. Same weapon.

@NikiGothBunneh Год назад

I got a box to mix and match them with 3d printed bodies/legs

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Not a bad plan!

@lowlygrinder2977 Год назад

I would love upgrade kits for other units, like the blade guard, maybe with more ornate helmets and weapons, maybe even axes. Also I would love an upgrade sprue with just heads on it, 10 bare 10 helmeted, with more ornate helmets for captains and honour guard, or their equal in other factions, and a non chapter specific upgrade sprue for marines. Imagine a Chaos Marine sprue that has new heads and helmets for champions, new hands and weapons that can change the poses, maybe weapons that attach to the hand so you can mix and match different weapons with different arm positions, rather then having the weapon already attached to the arm. Oh and an Ork boys sprue, because man does that kit need more options.

@ArynCrinn Год назад

Ork Boyz need a proper Multi-part kit. The fact they are pushfit tells me they were probably intended for some kind of mid-edition boxed set, like Shadowspear last edition. There's only so much they can do with a kit like that. The AOS Chaos Knights are probably the first pushfit kit I've ever seen with an upgrade sprue, but it only includes options for 3 of the 5 models in the original kit.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes that would be amazing. Love that idea.

@Zekutso Год назад

Little question: The tank commander fits only on the Rogal Dorn Tank? So he can't be put on the Leman Russ tank?

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I have checked but I think he would fit ok.

@Ralndrath Год назад

Would these sprues work with the Vet Guard/Death Korps of Krieg kit?

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes they would work very well, and might be the intention?

@thenerdyknight1559 Год назад

as a black templar player, the upgrade kit is amazing

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes it is! So many options and endless combos!

@Grubnar 10 месяцев назад

What do you mean by "Rogal Dorn tank commander"? Is the turret hatch ring different size for that tank, compared to all the other Imperial Guard tanks?

@MediocreHobbies 10 месяцев назад

I honestly don’t know. I just know what the instructions said. But I’m sure he could go in a normal Russ I just wanted an excuse for more dorn tanks.

@lordjazoijua94 Год назад

Is it possible to do a painting video on the void war bases please.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Let me see what I can do!

@Sgt-lott10 8 месяцев назад

I love it, two spare guardsmen from it will allow me to use spare parts from heavy weapons teams to practically get another squad of them for "free" I also think it helps me with having certain squads stand out in addition to the kitbashing opportunities

@MediocreHobbies 8 месяцев назад

Great use for the models.

@naphaneal Год назад

it's okay. I'm only interested in the belt-fed machine gun and the grave marker. But I would not by the upgrade just for that. and with the upcoming price raise it's even less interesting to purchase

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I really want to do the grave marker justice it’s such a beautiful piece.

@ltmentle5293 Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies Objective marker?

@10urion Год назад

I find some of the poses and the axe and wrench really cool, but other than that I would call it "MEH". Would very much prefer if those fun arms were on the regular sprue and drop the rest

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Agreed.

@ArynCrinn Год назад

"The Black Templar one came out quite a number of *months* ago now" *checks release date - November 2021. Yeah, I guess you could say that. I think the Cadian upgrade kit would be alright for someone wanting to make a Cadian Veteran Guard Kill Team. It's not like they have to be Krieg... They just don't really get any benefit in 40k.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Time means nothing when you paint war dollies all day and night 😂 Yes! Totally agree, would love to see a kill team done with them!

@brunneng38 Год назад

On one hand- I love making every figure I assemble look unique. On the other hand- $30 for about $1 worth of plastic. The GW Way.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

It’s really not that easy. It did not cost gw 1 doller to make this. But I understand your frustration.

@brunneng38 Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies I obsessed on getting it. Finally found a LGS with it and held it in my hand and stared at it for awhile. Ended up putting it back on the shelf. Especially when I occurred to me that to buy this, I also have to buy ANOTHER cadian squad. So - close to $100. Maybe another day. 😂😂😂

@Samsminis Год назад

Two comments 1. Your audio is crisp in this video, and I like your editing cuts with the body and full models. Nice touch there. 2. The idea of an upgrade/accessory kit is super gross to me, and feels like predatory design practice. With the size of the sprue, this is something that could have easily been included with the ten man squad box, especially with current pricing structure. Especially with the way Stargrave and other kits are packed, this rubs me the wrong way.

@ArynCrinn Год назад

Yeah, it's not like they haven't demonstrated a capacity for moulds with 3 regular infantry squad sprues before. Even if they felt there wasn't enough stuff to fill a 3rd sprue... they could have just spread out the stuff from the other two some more. It's not like the Black Templars where they would then have to give you 6 sprues in the box because they have to give you a duplicate set.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I get you. Fair points.

@Fortunes.Fool. Год назад

Maybe "accessory kit" is a better name? I like the bits, especially if I decide to make a very expensive kill team of them.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yeah that’s a good way of putting it! And yes, it would work great for a Kill Team!

@CadiasFinest Год назад

Robot arm pose looks goofy, but everything else is great

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Agreed.

@CadianColors Год назад

Let's you make a squad with respirators and a medic, which you could use on the table as Death Korps, if you want to use that unit but want an entirely Cadian force

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That’s a cool idea.

@bigbrowntau Год назад

Next time, could you hold things still for a few seconds? Unfortunately due to my vision problems, I couldn't keep watching your video without constantly pausing it. A few seconds of keeping an object still would make all the difference. Thank you!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That’s a great comment, thanks for asking that! I will do my best in future to be mindful of this! Appreciate the comment and the watch!

@bigbrowntau Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies Thanks mate, much appreciated. I hope your channel really grows. Great content you're making here.

@lowlygrinder2977 Год назад

Karaskin? You mean kasrkin?

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Perhaps lol

@alejandrotorcida9607 Год назад

then is not worth it :D because it dosent have suficient gas mask

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Hahahaha fair.

@Michael-wn3rh 11 месяцев назад

The BT upgrade kit is trash valie compared to their BT Chapter Upgrade kit from back in the day.

@MediocreHobbies 11 месяцев назад

Hahaha there two very different kits. And the old one is just no use now. So out of date and ugly.

@Michael-wn3rh 11 месяцев назад

@MediocreHobbies Perhaps different kits, but one can nevertheless compare their value as they were both manufactured for the same purpose. I also disagree with your opinion on their current utility. The BT Chap. Upgrade kit was so prolific, I'm still using left over intense burners and torches on my current (primaris) BT force. People always ask where they're from.