Caitibugzz Doubles Down On False Accusations As She Leaves The Internet 

Freshly sued for defamation

She honestly needs to be public shamed as she is doing a lot of harm to real SA victims. George is a loser too for folding and apologizing to her, he validated her for no reason.

Idolisation 101: 1. Idolise someone: "Could not do this without Shubble" 2. Dismiss Idols: "Idolisation is a problem. Don't do it. I tell my community not to idolise me" 3. Become the Idol: "I wanted to be a person people looked up to" 4. ??? 5. Profi....[leave the internet]

Shes seriously tripling down on this? Lmfao she needs to be sued

He needs to sue at this point or some shit

"In the moment, I was chilling". She was so comfortable in fact, that she got up after the undershirt touching, to say goodbye to her best friend who wasn't feeling well, and decided that instead of going with her sick friend back to their room, she'd rather stay with George instead, someone she knew was 8 years older than her, whom she had already been cuddling with and had the undershirt touching already happen, and went back to his arms for more the cuddling/touching. BUT, the next day, when her little friends/new acquaintances started gossiping about how she and George were cuddling and that he had touched her under her shirt, this is what happened: After being asked how she felt about it by a couple people the next day who used language like "I didn't like how touchy he was being" or "he was really touchy", she decided to save face and not look like 'that kind of girl' aka 'groupie-lite' to these people by making up a story which completely removed her agency. She did not want to admit to these people that in fact she was perfectly fine with being cuddly with a guy she knew was 8 years her senior who she had only met the day before, and even chose to stay and continue the cuddling/under shirt touching instead of leaving with her friend because she was completely comfortable that night with the situation. So Caiti changed the truth of her choosing to drink, to the lie that it was that she was made to drink. The truth that she was knowingly being flirty and cuddling with someone 8 years her senior, to the lie that it was George who took advantage of the age gap on purpose. The truth that she was enjoying being in the company of someone famous, to the lie that it was George wielding his fame/power over her. And the truth that she was enjoying her time with him and consenting to the touching/flirting back (which there is nothing morally wrong with that), to the lie that it was that George did it suddenly out of nowhere. She regretted the gossip and views the other people had about that night of her and George being cuddly/touchy feely (not one person stated that Caiti looked uncomfortable, just that the age gap / touchiness made THEM uncomfortable), and that is what drove her to fabricate the whole no consent story. Which is the other reason why she kept on reiterating about it being 'in front of everyone' and even made the outlandish claim in her third version, that it would have been better if it happened when they were alone. It wasn't because she was uncomfortable that people were watching, it was that those that saw, gossiped about it later, and felt put into a position where she either had to admit she was 'that kind of girl' that they wouldn't approve of (especially with George), or concoct a lie which removes her agency (free will completely). It is literally the modus operandi of every false accuser - they feel a real harm or threat from a third party (ex. friend catches you cheating with a married man, so will think you are a home wrecker), so they make up a story to remove their agency (ex. that actually it was not consensual, but rape).

Her friends are as much to blame (if not more) for not only not telling her she exaggerated what actually happened but by validating her claims. There's victim blaming and then there's imagined victims. It's shouldn't be "believe all women" or "blame all women", it should be based on the evidence on a case by case basis

What's most frustrating is that she just won't view this at ground level. Probably every attempt by any person to make her touch grass is "just hate" in her eyes. People try to tell you that your view on this situation is out of proportion and quite frankly: insane. Not to hate on you, but for the sanity of both, you and George. Everyone can agree that she might have bad feelings about it but claiming the "sa-victim card" and framing someone as a predator, when the control was in your hands the whole time, you gotta be out of your mind.

Another thing about her mentioning drinking and all that is that A.) for George being from the UK an 18 year old is legal and common anyway. Which builds on B.) she visited the UK, texting him about being at a bar nearby to him, while she was still presumably 18.

For fucks sake. After another hour of this I feel like taking a shower. A simple misunderstanding and easily solvable situation turned into a bog of mud and never ending forest of excuses. I get the feeling that even if this girl sat down at one of the real survivors meetings she won't be able to tell "her story" in there.

To me it comes off as a lot of the younger twitch streamers got famous like you said for nothing but haven’t had any real interactions outside of other socially stunted twitch streamers. So they just react in immature and crazy ways to situations they never have been in.

Why does her assault account read like some strange young adult novel.

This is a prime example of someone with no hardship in their life so they have to create problems

This is still going good god 😒

It all comes down to being a terminally-online, Twitter-brained child. I know real life survivors who don’t want any clout, who struggle to talk about it and struggle to move forward. You are not them, and hopefully you never will be.

I’ve been meaning to say this, but this reads as fan fiction 😭😩 Like the wording of it lmao. I feel like I’m on AO3 rn.

This entire situation makes me so angry and annoyed. When I was 18 I made the incredibly idiotic decision to hang out with a 26 year old man under the pretense that It was just to hang out and smoke weed. The difference between me and her is that I continuously communicated I was uncomfortable and for him to stop touching me and he didn’t listen. He actually did try and convince me to get drunk but I knew I would be fucked if I chose to do that, because I recognized I was in an actually dangerous situation. Being forced down against ur will when saying no under the influence is so so fucking scary. It fucks with me still. And she tries and frame a regret into that trauma. She wants to make it seem like she’s a victim in this, that she was more vulnerable than she was. But she had all the chances in the world to express her discomfort. And I doubt she was really uncomfortable in the moment. I understand the concept of “freezing up” because that’s what initially happened with me before I actually said “no” but I wasn’t cuddling with anyone. I wasn’t laughing and smiling. I was staring off into space and trying not to cry. God, why does everyone want to be a fucking victim. Starting shit over nothing. I never even reported what happened to me because of how messy it can get, and there not being enough proof. And she’s willing to destroy someone’s career over something she regretted later. This is why victims aren’t taken seriously. This is why people don’t report what happened. Because lying about this stuff creates a general distrust when an actual victim chooses to speak out My bad for trauma dumping in ur comment section 😭 I’m not tryna garner sympathy it’s just infuriating to see someone try and spin a situation into something else entirely, and for what? Clout!?

i’m 25 and my boyfriend is 34. i can’t wait to get home and tell him im only 25 and a half and what he’s doing is wrong

Caitibuggz has decided to give another final response to double down on the triple down.

George is lucky that there were other people around. If they were alone he would already be accused of rape.

1:08:37 So your telling me she is smart enough to know that people fake trauma, but not smart enough to know that she falls into that camp of people? Incredible 💀

A bunch of adults having a high school drama about a high school relationship is what this sounds like. I dont mean literally high school, but this is exactly how high school drama goes, except this also adds extra weight to their childish drama because of potential career ending consequences

These were special firsts for her and for him she was just another one. That’s why she feels embarrassed and angry at him. And maybe her online besties helped turn this into something it wasn’t but I think deep down she just wanted an equally memorable negative impact on him. She had a year to work through this and she still decided to be a fool. Here’s what these kids get wrong about “feelings are valid”. It means you’re gonna feel what you do whether or not you’re at fault because you’re human. Feelings being valid doesn’t mean they’re a reflection of the truth. Doesn’t mean anyone has to fix those for you. All it means is you don’t ignore them. You internally work through them.

I said this in a comment before, when he stopped talking to her this is when her insane story was born...she got butthurt and decided to go this route to destroy him. She's a nobody and he's a loser for saying sorry for nothing.

And now she merrily rides into the sunset while she ruined a life. I'm glad you're emphasizing that she has nothing to lose, a real power imbalance.

I can understand that Catie felt discomfort over the situation when she is ace. And I think there is an discussion we could have had about feling presured to do sexual things and set boundaries. because todays society is promoting it so heavy. I have done a lot of things I didn’t like because I thought I had to like it as a woman. I do not blame the men, it’s not there fault that I hadn’t been told that it’s okay to not like everything regarding sex.And I think a lot of men feel the same. But it’s not sexual asult, and it frustrates me that she didn’t bring it up like an interaction she regretted because she didn’t stand up for her self. She could have done this to an useful discussion about feeling forced by society to have sexual interactions instead of blaming George. This is just harming them both and real SA victims.

It sounds like she had a huge crush on him and when it didn't get further she's upset. She only wished it lasted longer, her heart stops when she sees him but he wouldn't recognize her, etc.

Silence doesn't automatically mean consent is such an annoying argument because it may be true but silence also doesn't automatically mean it's a rejection. If there is no verbal consent and someone makes a move you are responsible for speaking up for yourself at that point and making it clear you are rejecting the advance, you can't just give no verbal consent, then flirt and cuddle and then say nothing when there's a move made and THEN say you were assaulted after the fact because they had no way of knowing you didn't want it. It's so frustrating.

I’m listening her go into detail about how scared, sick and drunk she was and I’m still confused how anyone of any age could confuse that as excitement

Saying I complied to the drinking and drinking games request makes her seem like a damn Isis hostage

Didn’t George apologize for nothing then? Like im not following this in-depth but I remember him apologizing which must feel sh*tty now

WHOA WHOA WHOA! the writing is what she read in the stream BUT she JUST added in the part about her boob she never read that in the original reading. This is completely insane.

18 seconds ago is crazy

So she was underage drinking and admits it. She just graduated high school and was at a party where u needed to be 21 and she lied. Idk maybe it’s me but I see a pattern of lying to benefit herself at the expense of others

Even hearing her side at the beginning i was like.....wheres the assault? This is so diminishing to real assault

George will forever no escape the "tickle monster" allegations

17:38 Poor Hawke catching strays 🤣

I'm sorry but if you get up to say goodbye to your sick best friend and come right back to continue getting "assaulted" then you weren't assaulted at all. If I you genuinely felt uncomfortable, this would be the perfect time for you to go "hey, I'm gonna go help my friend. good night" and get tf out. people like her deserve jail time. The fact that she STILL has people's sympathy to this day is mind-blowing to me.

"maybe he was trying to find them" Based as hell

Reddit and Twitter defend her and Lex despite how everything they’ve said were lies.

10:18 "I don't think anybody was, because it didn't happen" Was a wild line to drop on her

Im just wondering if anyone's gonna mention this major contradictment. Caiti herself said that in the exact moment of her "assult" she in her own words said that it wasnt even a friendly hangout anymore, and that she was only there for her body, therefore implying that she came to the conclusion that George was a malicous person who was only there to take advantage of her, this goes along with the fact that Maggs said it himself that she "cried in his arms" because she was deeply hurt by the situation that same very day, but can someone tell me why the hell she then proceeds to try to not only message him, but try to meet up with him months later after the "assult". No victim of SA would EVER be deeply affected by their assulter, and try to still continue to message and meet up with them months later, thats absolutely ridiculous, and as a person who's been SA'd it's incredibly infuriating to see people like her want sympathy for the dumbest shit ever that they call "SA".

14:16 also to add on to this, usually when victims remember incorrectly it is NOT to their own benefit and they constantly second-guess themselves even when an actual sexual act has happened. This to me is one of the reasons she is so unreliable, there’s none of the usual shame and regret, that while of course victims shouldn’t feel it, will usually ALWAYS feel it anyway because losing your autonomy is shameful to YOURSELF, ( shouldn’t come from others)

I hate that there's pick-mes like this, and then the next time someone is abused by an internet 'celeb' people aren't going to fully trust/believe them without 10000000 pics or audio recordings for evidence. Heartbreaking, she should never be allowed to forget about this

She lied so much that she just left. What a coward. George will forever be shamed by these false allegations meanwhile she just gets to leave? Someone leak her addy

She didn't double down, it's more like quintupling down at this point

Papa logic is what ur name should be. This is why I love ur content.🎉❤🎉

Wasn’t there another element to this like her friend group had a falling out with his friends??? And that helped initiate this whole thing i could be wrong 😅

When you know you know... who is seriously affected or just shameless. Tragic, that real victims in general retreat in shame and dispair. Feeling ripped off by attention seekers, who fake serious circumstances and shape a distrustful perception of people who open up. Good commentary, anyway quite mad right now.

Great vid as always

Papa gut your good in my book

19:19 is a perfect summary of this entire situation

papa gut

Claiming that every dude doesn’t know consent or doesn’t know there emotions is kinda a bs take because that’s technically generalizing and assuming that every man doesn’t know how to do that and every women does know there emotions. There’s such a thing of parents raising boys to not respond with anger always kinda my case but that’s not the norm. But in the end we don’t know what other peoples brains are thinking.

She should feel like an ahole for not going with her friend when she left because she wasn’t feeling well. Always go take care of your friend.

I would say your feelings are always valid - your actions in relation to those feelings may not be. Feel your feelings, dumb or not. But if you react in a wrong way, then it is what it is. Wrong.

it’ll be nice when she grows up a little💀💀 like even looking at her room that she said her parents bought her (i used to be a fan ) you can tell she’s just immature

1:42:45 has me sobbing

What is it with this current trend of acting like 18 means you’re a minor? If I was George and I saw this I’d have just said “you’re 18, stfu.” And that’d be it.

can she just get fined for drinking underage and move on already

Holy shit, just watched the papa gut archive channel for the first time, and it’s hard to watch. I don’t know if you realize how dramatic your change has been these past few years, but it’s been for the best. I’ve loved watching this channel and respect your takes, so I thought I’d look at your older content too, and damn you matured a lot. They were hard to watch. But hey keep killing it man, I respect your change a lot

I totally agree with papas stand point but I also need to point oit- Maybe I'm confused but??? The creator in question is a near 30 year old man who was drinking and being sexually suggestive with someone whom he wasn't even sure if they were 18 or not-?? Is this somewhere 18 is the drinking age? If not, regardless of if he knew she was actually 18 (which I believe it's stated that he didn't know she how old she was at all due to her profile?) Why was he drinking with someone who's not legally able to? Are we all just gonna ignore that factor of this situation-??

1:42:56😂😂

Got to be honest but that Shelby person seems 10x worse than this girl. At least she has the excuse of age but Shelby engaged in the same BS and has tried to turn it into an advocate career change.

Can someone recap what happened like fully? I feel like I’m missing a few chapters 😭

Lmfao @ 34:55

I think it is very important to call out people making false allegations, because yes as you said, it works to discredit those who are coming forward truthfully. One false allegation can undo the true ones for the next 20 people who come forward. HOWEVER, I think it's very important how it's done. Many people I've seen cover this story are doing more than just pointing out her inconsistencies and even just her lies. Saying things like "you weren't assaulted, you were tickled" discredits real victims. ANY unwanted touching is assault. Saying "you chose to go to this party, you chose to drink, you chose to go to his hotel room" discredits real victims. Sneaking into a party to drink and going to someone's hotel room are NOT consent. Saying "you were drunk but so was he" is discrediting real victims. Being drunk is not consent. I think you bring up a good point about there not being enough discussion around men who also can't consent in these situations, and I don't think agreeing to sex while drunk is enough to constitute a crime, but there is definitely some sensitivity to be had. Saying "you were 18, this was legal" discredits real victims. Being of a certain age isn't consent. Saying that there wasn't a power imbalance also discredits real victims. Again, an interesting point being made with "the power of being a nobody" but someone who is not only older, but has a large platform - people are absolutely cowed by that kind of thing and it makes them more easy to take advantage of. It happens ALL the time. The age difference does also matter. It's more than just "cringe" to be a 26 year old seeking the attention of an 18 year old. I'm not going to assume intent about George, as I think enough of that has been done, and honestly I think he was genuinely doing what he thought was acceptable. But there are 25+ yr olds who are particular to younger people (usually women) who are naive and inexperienced and don't know what is or isn't acceptable. So the focus on her age and being "a legal adult" is discrediting to real victims. Saying "well this is what happens when you flirt (before and/or after)" is discrediting real victims. Flirting is not consent. And in fact, it's INCREDIBLY common for victims of assault and rape to return to their perpetrators after the fact seeking validation. Again, it is right to call her out and try to make it clear that false allegations will not fly, but I think it's just as important to not feed into the same narratives that keep people from coming forward in general. There is no "perfect victim" and saying you can't be a good victim if you're: of age, flirting with someone, drinking when you shouldn't be, going to hotel rooms, etc isn't doing anything to push things in the right direction. She was in the wrong. In reading what she said, I do think she was uncomfortable with what happened that night and really didn't know how to stop it, but I don't think that means that what happened was in any way malicious on George's part. I don't think it's worthy of accusations, I think she should have tried to have a conversation with him so he can maybe be more aware in future. I know that you have personal experience with this subject and don't take it lightly, but I just think it would be good to be more mindful of how you are discussing it so as to not make it harder for REAL victims to come forward in the future. And it isn't just you, I've seen these talking points float around for just about everyone talking about it. I think people mix their hostility towards her with their feelings about what actually happened.

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