I genuinely feel bad for these guys as a social worker I want everyone to be the best version of themselves and it sucks when people get stuck in the rut of I can’t become anything
This documentary is astounding in so many ways. It's honestly insane that you can look at this from a lens and see what's obvious in their flaws or problems yet it's so lost and foreign on themselves. That, they all interact and don't seem to make each other better but confuse one another further in their deep delusions of inadequacy. They all have their own problems, for different reasons, and interesting enough NONE of them can really help the other one out to be better in general. They just all trapped in their own self-perpetuated cycles of failure that others reinforce. Such an interesting case study.
As long as you haven't tried: - Basic Hygene - New Hairstyle - Shaved - Gone to the gym to work out - Searched for a hobby that builds your confidence as an individual You are never really an Incel. Because you never really tried to appeal to yourself or others.
And still a woman doesn't have to do any of these things to have a boyfriend or start a family, in the case of a man, his short height alone often ruins everything.
Incels are the most interesting people to me, I feel as though majority if not all, can be lead into the right direction of finding someone for them. No one should be without love just because they think they’re too “ugly/weird” or whatever the case is.
As a very lonely, unconfident man in my 20’s (not an incel tho) I’ve watched this doc dozens of times since I was like 17. Keeps me grounded. One of the Shy Boys took their own life sadly.
I'm an average woman in pretty much every regard and get approached often by girls with them giving compliments and things like that. But I've found it unbelievably difficult to even make new friends as an adult. But since ive started working from home I have socially atrophied. If you are not getting out and socializing with people, you get rusty and awkward, and your anxiety is amplified SO much. Even if its just hanging out with friends at a restaurant and one of them bringing their s/o so you get the chance to interact with someone new, it helps. I can't imagine how difficult not just adult friendships, but adult relationships are for guys who either struggle socially or with not conventionally attractive appearances. You've gotta get out there and at least just socialize so you don't get stuck in your own head. Surround yourself with people who have like-interests. Not completely like minded necessarily, you need to have people who challenge you. But having friends is usually the gateway to meeting their friends and possibly meeting someone you'd be interested in pursuing. Just never make an intimate relationship your main intention for interacting, tho.
I been fat and broke my whole life and have no trouble. Its all mindset man. If you like yourself genuinely and are a decent person, you will attract people.
Socialize, clean hygiene, effort into appearance, and try to be confidence. If he or she says no, just keep it moving. Shrug it off. life goes on. get your groove on. also if anyone has an issue with you approaching them politely, then its whatever. (and the dude with brown long hair could probably just stop saying that he shoots low for a reason. I think he's just negative.)
That is all true. Some dudes have extreme issues with socialization. Some dudes have been diagnosed with being on the spectrum, they've always struggled with making friends, but they blame women for their lack of success with dating.
@@leehalloway8787I’m autistic but this hasn’t been my experience. Then again, I had a really cool older brother who let me know when I was being weird.
Idk if this just makes me an incel but I hate dating. I just genuinely hate going out and paying for dates with women and it never ends up going anywhere past like date 2. Even if I can afford to waste the money.
Does any one else feel bad for Michael? He seems like a very sweet guy that only needs to work on confidence and the dude kept calling him ugly the whole time and made fun of him for wanting to find a woman for love
I went throughout highschool and part of college thinking I was the most unattractive guy in the world. My friends encouraged me to hit the gym and eat better. Once I did that, my confidence boosted and I started getting some dates once I turned 20. The first guy needs friends like mine, that are outside of his miserable bubble of self-loathing losers that just feed into his victim complex. He’d be surprised how much good a new perspective could do for him
I’m not saying it’s easy, but start with having earned confidence, taking care of yourself and having your life under control and you’re 80% there. Also don’t be desperate, everyone can smell it.
Not all of it is luck in fact most of it isn't luck. I've worked on all of these things and although I'm still improving, it has massively improved my chances with women.@@QWERTY-gp8fd
A huge piece is confidence, namely self confidence. And you can have that regardless of your job, income, athletic ability, etc. That's why that first guy saying "I go for the lowest of the low" is an INSTANT turn off to women: they can SMELL the desperation. I've also gone long periods before, once like a decade at least when I was addicted to opioids. But even at my most desperate I knew it was me that had to change. And now I'm clean and getting married this summer, and the reason I go a few months now is because we currently live in different countries.
@@dw3134 that's true, but there can be confidence in failings too. Confidence you know the mistakes you made, confidence you won't make them again, confidence you'll improve, etc. But you are correct that the biggest source of confidence in something is some degree of competence in it.
The guy at 7:05 literally not ugly at all. Quite the opposite. I think he just needs to work on his approach and how he builds connections, he might have some tism or something. He also speaks quite negatively of women. If his love interest ever heard that, immediate ick. It’s a problem on both gender sides to group everyone into a hatred category. That false perception does you no good. Also, stay away from all pick up artists. They will turn you into the worst incels.. I’ve never watched one of these guys and thought “oh that would work” lol
When breathing or having a good relationship with your mother is an ick to a majority of women I don’t think we should take them seriously. Especially since they choose bears over human men.
maybe im insane but, I feel like sometimes you just hear someone's voice and immediately dislike them. Idk if you can fix that with like speech therapy or some kind of training but sheesh man.
When the pick up artist came on and he said “what’s the fashion sense here? Shooting up Columbine?” He was so freaking accurate 😂 he looked ridiculous haha
There's nothing wrong with playing videogames like WoW. I actually met my husband on WoW. We started out as friends, dated, and then got married. The key is to not be a creep.
I have a kot of issues but this i will never understand. I've never asked out a girl in my life, they ask me. Im not the best looking, under 6ft, not rich, my pp is quite average. Like papa gut said, its about your attitude. Dont be anyone your not and you will attract like minded people. Just be genuine
@@anth636 How are you asking them out? 1 on 1, in a room? At a restaurant or something like that? Have they made it clear they view you as a friend and nothing else?
@@wiredvibe1678 Depends if they have made it clear how they view you and how you handle the rejection if they say no. A lot of "Nice guys" get mad and quit acting like a friend because they never were. They viewed their female "Friends" as a goal or an object. Obviously it's how they go about it but I feel it's more their mindset. Women can sense that stuff off of men. Asked my roommate what she would call it and she said it's "the ick sense" 😂. She loves the sixth sense movie.
7:00 honestly I saw this before and don’t think he’s bad looking. Seen guys worse than him with girls. Just needs to get a job and stop being so mopey.
Honestly if they were getting laid or had a fwb there lives would possibly be different. I'd like to have a girlfriend because it's nice to have someone to talk to and reply back plus be attractive (relative to me)... plus having to pick up girls to fuck gets old after awhile..
They want to fill a desperate void they have in their lives. I’ve had times where I felt desperate, but at least I was nothing like the first guy. That dude needs some real friends.
