California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas | College Students' FIRST TIME REACTION! 

You wouldn’t be disappointed with Monday Monday, either. Cass Elliot had such an amazing voice! She passed away in 1974 at the age of 33 of a heart attack brought about by obesity and crash diets. RIP Mama Cass❤️❤️

Classic tune for a reason ! And Really excited to see you're finally doing some Tull. Please don't make the mistake of thinking they can only do prog rock, they arent a one trick pony. Lots of great stuff.

hi, new to you great guys, please lmk what S stands for?

Agreed, it's always been a favorite. Other great candidate to submit for your approval would be "I Saw Her Again". ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4vaIBZCLUQU.html

You might also like I Got You Babe by Sonny & Cher; You Didn’t Have to be So Nice by Lovin Spoonful; Happy Together by the Turtles; Pleasant Valley Sunday by the Monkees.

I feel the same. It's like going back 50 yrs and reliving the magic all over again. This is literally the only music review channel I listen to. These two lads are wired in and truly "get it".

You ain't kidding, it is one of my biggest thrills in retirement watching the music of our generation being kept perpetually alive, God, there are even youngsters like Liliac and Plush playing great new rock and excellent covers of their own rock heroes from my time. Rock is in good hands and will not die, they will be listening to this song millennia in the future!

@@Martin.Wilson Yes, I'm always impressed at A&A's historical perspective. So good for guys their age. They do their reading.

Got me through lockdown! A lifesaver!

@@vicprovost2561 So true. It embodies something I've believed for al most 70 yrs....being a hippie isn't about when you were born....it's a state of mind that flows like a river and always will.

Same age never Tire😏

I’ve heard it in passing all my life but recently I gave it a listen and I’m obsessed with it. Plus the blond is unbelievably beautiful.

I'm 65 same.

I'm responding 7 months later, but god speed. Hope you're having a good time.

That and weed?

Mama Cass was a huge Joplin fan...

Came here to say this. Unfortunately it is probably outside the realm of "Rock", but it's such a dynamite performance that I can't imagine anyone having any objections.

She did have an impossibly beautiful voice and a beautiful smile.

@@lisaannbarriner9633 one of my fave female singers

Denny Dourtery was not to shabby either.

The backing track is actually lifted from Barry Mcguires version ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5W2se8MMqwo.html

A lot more than 20%

Same thing The Monkees did. At first Wrecking Crew laid down the instrument and then the boys would lay down the vocals.

You took the words right out of my mouth .

So true. Good call. The Wrecking Crew laid down so many great tracks.

I’ll never know just how much he loves me

Yup. And, don't forget that John Phillips helped to organize the 1967 Monterrey Pop Festival which really helped to impel the hippy movement not to mention the careers of people like Jimi Hendrix, Otis Redding, ...etc., etc., etc.. They really were the band of the times.

Cheers for that man, deffo going to check out that doc, it's one I've not seen. Appreciate you :)

Gotta disagree on Jakob Dylan's movie "Echo in the Canyon." I cannot recommend it. I DO recommend the CSNY documentary on Amazon called "Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young -- Fifty by Four." It covers the Laurel Canyon scene in great detail, and is a lot more interesting than what Dylan delivers.

And the Doors

With the exception of the Beach Boys who were great in their own right, the others were all folkies (folk singers/musicians) who traded in their acoustic guitars for electric after seeing the Beatles.

indeed......

I recall a contest of sorts with John Sebastian and John Phillips. One wrote a song about "time" and bet the other one he couldn't also write a song about time. (6 O'clock and 12:30 were the songs. I don't recall which one was first.)

Yes indeed. My favourite! 🇦🇺

One of their most under appreciated songs.

“I saw her again (last night)” is another great song.

That might explain why my favorite RHCH song "Otherside" actually gives me some "California Dreaming" vibes although it's a completely different song.

Was going to post the same. I read it yesterday.

"Some very down periods in his life" -- he came back from a heroin addiction. Respect.

Cass had the voice and charm of the Great Mother- no wonder she soothed our hearts.

The Association did not play one instrument on their first album. The instruments were played by Hal Blaine, Joe Osborne, Tommy Tedesco...just the way it was done then. Great songs!

I really love their "Requiem for the Masses" too

@@sharrongrant6240 Yup, The Wrecking Crew rules!

Yeah, I would love to see a reaction to any of those songs!

Loved the association

Absolutely correct! Gotta listen to that one.

I had a crush on Michelle Phillips for years and I love her doing that song

Agree!! It starts off soft then BAMMM, love it!

Another S in the making

Creeque Alley tells the story of folk/rock/pop in the 60's. Plus, it's a toe tapper.

Yes sir! All are great songs. Cass Elliot had such an amazingly beautiful voice! Another mega talented artist who was taken from us too young! RIP Mama Cass❤️❤️

Monday Monday for sure!

Word. Monday Monday has to be the next tune from the Mamas and the Papas.

Monday Monday for sure, but add I Saw Her Again and Twelve Thirty (Young Girls are Coming to the Canyon) to the list.

CSN met at Mama Cass' house.

absolutely no doubt-was so fortunate to be in my late teens when it all went down

I was 8 years old in 1966 and this song makes me think of mom driving us around in our station wagon with this in the radio and my mom always sang along with it. We had just moved to Los Angeles from Massachusetts and it was a great time to be out here. I m 65 now and I love still California although now must people here are dreamin’ about leaving here instead of coming here.

Mark r u still with the Raiders ?

@@TheCybertiger9 Okay, I need a nickel from ya.

Others worth a listen are Got a Feeling and Creque Alley. Agree that California Dreamin' is their best. Fabulous song.

Monterey Pop Festival was June 16-18, 1967 not 1968. songs were still on charts

@@orangeandblackattack Thanks for pointing that out - that was a typo on my part. Yes their tunes by 1967 were still charting but not as high as "California Dreaming". They were in a steady downward spiral popularity wise because of peoples` tastes changing from the commercial AM radio scene to the more rocking FM scene. You can see it quite plainly at the Monterey concert with the audience reactions to them after bands like The Who & Jimi Hendrix had performed - they didn`t get half as much applause. Also Cass Elliot was wanting to go solo in the late 60`s a sure sign their group was beginning to break up & go in different directions. Bottom line - yes they still charted, they still had a fan base - but no where near where they did when "California Dreaming" & Monday Monday" came out.

@@michaelnorris7353 FM radio certainly had more of an experimental bent in the late 1960s, but at the time of Monterey POP, there were very, very few stations broadcasting on FM, and the vast majority of radios in the USA were AM only. The most notable stations in FM were classical until later in that year and decade, AM radio really remained king until the mid 1970s.

@@jamesfetherston1190 I grew up in Canada in Toronto & in 1968 we were abandoning AM radio for FM in great numbers. The Canadian music scene was very different from the American one. We were privaledged to have heard the Beatles a year before they were heard in America as well as a lot of the other British groups because Canada was still part of the British Empire in those days. Also because our own music scene was so small American & British music was what we had. We were very open to anything new & FM radio was one of those. I can remember quite clearly talking with friends about what do you like better - AM or FM - and that was in the late 1960`s. By the mid 1970`s for us AM was something from the past.

Idk why but I love "Dedicated To The One I love" the harmonies and piano work are intoxicating, I even like the version by The Temprees as well!

Oh yeah, Monday Monday!! Great song.

@@dawsonp3314 The best.

Monday Monday is a masterpiece.

Yeah, there's John and his daughters.

I've never heard anyone react to Creeque Alley. I don't know why!

@@TheZodiacz Same! I wish someone would!

beautifully stated mate....nice

too bad he turned out to be a complete lunatic who got lost in drugs and had an incestuous relationship with his teenage daughter

@@damienparis5377 He was also a degenerate who slept with his daughter Mackenzie Phillips and would let his friends sleep with her as well, including Mick Jagger

My favorite of theirs.

@@alexvillarreal6039 Mine too. Just wonderful.

Twelve Thirty is terrific, but still a notch below this. But lyrically speaking, it is totally a sequel to this song, being written from the point of view of a person who made that jump, and moved from New York City to California. I don't think it was meant that way, but the two songs become a two part story if you listen to them one after another.

It's a song about *their* history; starting in the NYC Greenwich Village folk scene, who was hot in that scene, how they met each other and formed a group, whose was at the top of the whole scene ("McGuinn and McGuire, couldn't get no higher") and how they eventually got to live their California dream.

I was going to say the same thing, I just happened to have that song on my mind all day today.

Joan & Mitchy were gettin’ kinda itchy

John Sebastian is the guy who made tie dye popular at Woodstock. He tie dyed Roger Daltrey's stage outfit, you can see the dyed version in the Isle of Wight video one year after Woodstock.

Yes, yes, yes & more yes to Creeque Alley!

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

And everybody's gettin' fat, cept Mama Cass

The only thing is, that song makes so many references to other early to mid 60's musicians and bands that A&A wouldn't have the slightest idea what they're talking about. Plus once you hear "fat Mama Cass" once, it's like OK OK I get it!

@@dggydddy59 they have hit The Byrds so that provides the Roger McGuin reference. They have not hit "Eve Of Destruction" by Barry McGuire (which also needs to make it on a poll at some point). But that's why I suggested a live stream because the comment section will fill in the blanks.

@@dustinsutton6166 OK, gotcha!

Came here to suggest the same thing.

John’s revenge song to Denny & Michelle. 😁

good choice Gary

What’s the mistake? Only thing I can think of is the false start coming out of the bridge about 3/4 of the way through.

Exactly!

Yes, this!

They even influenced the Red Hot Chili Peppers, as John Hughes noted in these comments (see their album "By the Way" especially). I can hear the Mamas & Papas in REM and Stone Roses too -- the love of celestial harmony vocals.

not a band. a singing group.

@@thomastimlin1724 I think you're quibbling over terms when their make up was much more fluid than that. While three members did indeed only sing, their leader John Phillips played guitar along with the rest of their back up band (whoever it was at that moment.) Sometimes some very famous pop/folk personalities played back up for them. They were a folk band any way that you cut it. No one is going to say that, forinstance, Peter, Paul & Mary were just singers...because they weren't. They were a group with a rotating lineup. That's all.

I was waiting for someone to acknowledge the Wrecking Crew as the band.

unless they dont react that way. IMO this is the Masterpiece. One per band.

He was great but Cass was even better, he's certainly not their ONLY "lead singer".

@@NYCOPERAFAN so true. I should have clarified the lead male singer on the song.

Wow! Does Owen sing too?

When you mentioned the name Kunkel, I immediately wondered if there was a connection to Russ (know his work from JT, CK, CSN, etc.). I remember being so shocked and saddened when Cass Elliot passed so suddenly, and at such a young age. I'm happy after all this time to know her daughter had a safe, loving, and also a musical upbringing.🎶

@@loosilu Yes, but never really pursued it. She's the best. Watch Mama's & Papa's Rockn Roll Hall of Fame induction. Owen speaks for her Mama Cass

Here is a link with Owen speaking about Cass. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gzBlKO4AK-I.html

@@jgsrhythm100 Aw, that was sweet. Thank you for posting that!

Really? That’s hilarious

I was born in 1966😁

That is a such a great memory to have!

Little bit of Help, for The Mamas, & The Papas, with "Mother's Little Helper"?

I was going to leave a similar comment about the origin of the song.

It’s what Michelle was dreaming about. She is a Cali girl & wanted to go back, so he wrote the song.

It should. John Phillips wrote it. ;-)

agree, love them both!

Yep, Phillips and McKenzie were in folk “super group” The Journeymen in the early 60’s.

Wish they would have done a version--

Hell yeah. I played flute and bending notes like that isn't easy.

Not really LOL I played it when I was in Jr High. lol

I meant the feel not the technique

@@Jill-ni8fe True... I had an amazing teacher who played all woodwinds and he taught me what and how to do it. I sounded pretty good on it by 9th grade. But I probably listened to this tune and especially the flute interlude 1000x lol

Funny that Phillips allowed his own vocal mistake through on "I Saw Her Again". Probably took lots of convincing from the producer to leave it in

@@djhrecordhound4391 The producer? Lou Adler. But, engineer, Bones Howe (known for his production on 5th Dimension sides) had an important say, as well (from The Wrecking Crew documentary): "While mixing the record, Howe punched in the coda vocals too early, inadvertently including Denny's false start on the third chorus ('I saw her...'). "Despite attempting to correct the error, the miscued vocal could still be heard on playback. Producer Adler liked the effect, and told Howe to leave it in the final mix."

@@bradsmack1 Thank you, I totally forgot that was where Lou Adler came from! I grew up on comedy, so knew of him via Cheech and Chong and Ode Records. Bones Howe's name is on a bunch of records in my collection too. Still I bet if he was such a perfectionist, John Phillips at least had to be talked into keeping it

@@djhrecordhound4391 Oh, no doubt! The whole room (whomever heard the playback) I'm guessing, had to be convinced! The fact, too, that Howe & Adler let such a usually obvious "boo-boo" go is monumental in hindsight, knowing how perfectionist the ones responsible for the final product had habits of being! Now, it's nothing short of endearing, and a necessary spotlight on a moment in rock history that has helped prove that everything in rock isn't or doesn't have to be sterile and "perfect"!

Yes I totally agree with you 💯 !! I have their CD and I just LOVE IT! Dancing Bear and Look Through My Window are more positively Gr8 ones. ❤️🔥🔥🔥

@@amandagarten9793 gosh do people still buy CD's? You don't have to anymore

@@michaelasay8587 yah i actually have a heck lot of CDs(almost 100 the last time i counted). but i did just recently get a record player for xmas from my mom along with some records. Haven't used my CD player as much since then :) everybody i know says i was born in the wrong generation, lol.

If they do that song, they should also do the first hit version by The Shirelles, then the original doo-wop version by the 5 Royales, a group which deserves a deep dive of its own. Guitarist Lowman Pauling was an absolute legend! Don't get me wrong, The Mamas and Papas version is beautiful, but history warrants acknowledgement for that one.

Gotta include their most poingnant/poetic song "Twelve Thirty". The angst and anguish of the young girls making their livings in the canyon is absolutely palpable!!

Yes! The delivery is just sooo ugh 😩

Wrecking crew - YES! Phil Spector - NO! Lou Adler produced this song.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5W2se8MMqwo.html

@@kathyrams yes... I know... but the 'crew' was formed on Spector's label, on his time... they branched out to do many other artists...

@@rjnuzzi1648 gotta. Carol Kaye is a musical hero of mine. I found some music lessons she has on RU-vid. She changed my playing from a scale approach to a chordal approach. Hard for me to explain here but she changed me.

@@kathyrams to think of all the famous songs!! From 'Be My Baby' to all of Pet Sounds!! Even Sinatra's 'Strangers In The Night'... she & Hal Blain are historic...

My thoughts exactly! In fact, I recommended it, too!

@@allisonreed7682 I know. I saw your comment.

Every time I think of Mama Cass I think of the video of her sitting in the audience of the 1967 Monteray Pop Festival when she apparently was first introduced to Janis Joplin, singing "Ball and Chain" ( I think it was), and her mouth was just hanging open in awe of Janis.

Great song!

Metaphor for how quickly music was changing then. The documentary of the festival pointed out how it was a change of the guard from folksy stuff to rock, from the M&Ps to Jimi and Janus.

@@privatename123 The Who were also at that show. Talk about a change in sound.

And then Janis would turn up for every Creedence show!

Agreed Mark, it is excellent.

Seconded!

I agree with you!

Absolutely

Mainpower!

Hear hear!

"Janis". Please.

@@waynemarvin5661 sorry..writing on the fly

Same I was six had older siblings. This song even being just six made me think wow! My oldest sister taught me how to dance the twist and the shag and the swim. My oldest brothers and sister got to see the Beach Boys and the Animals live at a local nightclub called The Ponytail. I used to be mad and jealous they got to go and I was too young. The Boxtops were playing there the night my oldest bro met my sister in law. Unfortunately the place burnt down in 1969. Bummer!

@@patrickingalls5954 the music of that time seemed to always be in the background because of transistor radios. my sister and brothers had them, and they were always on. so even if i wasn't aware of the subject matter of a song like "california dreaming",the music itself was penetrating my mind. if i hear it today i'm immediately 5 years old swimming in our backyard pool in the summer of '66 with the smell of the charcoal bbq cooking burgers in the air.

Was it fuzzy or was that my phone?

So clear that you can make out a little bit of Barry McGuire's voice in the left speaker at the very beginning when he previously recorded his own version.

They didn’t release this song - the mammas & the papas covered the song - but did a great job.

And that is Momma Cass saying, “Wow” while watching/listening to Janis Joplin. Singing the song everyone has been begging you to react to. An iconic moment in time: not only Janis but the entire festival.

@@foxandscout Such a great shot, glad they caught her reaction on film.