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California International Marathon, What Actually Happened on the Course? 

Seth James DeMoor
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Комментарии : 103   
@Thespecificgeneralist
@Thespecificgeneralist 9 месяцев назад
Seth, what will you adjust? It seems there have been multiple, or every road marathon attempt over the last few years where you’ve “fallen short” - ambition greater than ability… Do you temper expectations and accept 2:18 is out of reach, or change training approaches. You do big volume so the wheels shouldn’t fall off so there has to be something missing in the equation. Keen to know your thoughts…. Stay humble, be hungry!
@johngault8688
@johngault8688 10 месяцев назад
I really think you need to do more speed work. I know I'm about to get slammed for this, but it's just my instinct after watching your videos over the years.
@michealGRuns
@michealGRuns 10 месяцев назад
I agree. When’s the last time he did a 5K block? Would do him a lot of good to race some 5K’s and even a mile
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
@@michealGRuns Vegas 2024, see you there for a 5K! be well
@banksj54
@banksj54 10 месяцев назад
@@michealGRunsI can’t remember any time any elite marathoners had 5k races in their build up. Maybe 5 repeats but a 5k? How does a 5K translate to 42K performance 🥴
@michealGRuns
@michealGRuns 10 месяцев назад
@@banksj54 😐
@darrendeas1408
@darrendeas1408 9 месяцев назад
Agree,he’s got a huge aerobic engine,if matched the leg speed to that then he’d fly around to an OTQ no problems
@scottdouglas4848
@scottdouglas4848 10 месяцев назад
Seth: Imagine you're running or walking around with your kids and you see someone behind the wheel of a moving car, with no hands on the wheel and clearly focused on something other than driving. You would rightfully be upset. Please do unto others.
@PeterMacdonald-jw8ko
@PeterMacdonald-jw8ko 10 месяцев назад
He doesn't care. He never has. One day he will get into an accident or get a ticket and he still won't care.
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
happy to chat with you on the phone or zoom call if you're truly interested in an answer Scott. just email me.
@seatownfan
@seatownfan 10 месяцев назад
Is this the running book author?
@scottdouglas4848
@scottdouglas4848 10 месяцев назад
scott AT scottdouglas DOT biz @@SethJamesDeMoor
@PeterMacdonald-jw8ko
@PeterMacdonald-jw8ko 9 месяцев назад
​@@SethJamesDeMoor It's funny that you think anyone that questions your driving is a bot.
@korethoe262
@korethoe262 9 месяцев назад
haven't watched in years and this guy went downhill. what is up with the look and change? narscisstic wow. bad vibe. sad how much worse this is now. things change, some for the worse. too bad.
@robertsue7586
@robertsue7586 10 месяцев назад
Quite amusing that even though your legs are so beat up, you still managed to set up the camera, film shuffling down the stairs with the suitcase, and then went back up to get the camera and then walk down again...just for the 'tube. That's dedication 👍
@PeterMacdonald-jw8ko
@PeterMacdonald-jw8ko 9 месяцев назад
peak Seth
@gm08351
@gm08351 9 месяцев назад
why so many downvotes on video?
@angeloskadis9968
@angeloskadis9968 10 месяцев назад
What I realize after studying (too late 😜) the elevation profile of CIM is that this is Not a race where someone should target even pacing. The first 5 miles are a steep downhill (-150 feet) then you have 10 miles of rollers with elevation gain of 600 feet. And last you have 10 miles of a much more gradual down hill (50 feet) If you don’t slow down miles 5-15 , you’ll PAY
@Twize
@Twize 10 месяцев назад
Hi Seth! I’ve ran CIM 7 times and calling it a fast course would not be my first choice of words to describe it. But then again I’m slow so my word doesn’t count. 😂 Kristina was happy to meet you! Hopefully I’ll have my chance next year at Chicago. 🙏
@oliverjenkins6539
@oliverjenkins6539 10 месяцев назад
This is exactly why you need to get over to Europe - I ran Valencia on Sunday, so flat my watch recorded 68 metres of elevation gain (220 feet)! I didn't feel a single hill which is the first time I've ever experienced it!
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
I think Chicago is even less....Valencia on the radar!
@Arif_Run4Life
@Arif_Run4Life 10 месяцев назад
My quads took a heavy beating from all the downhills. I guess I wasn't prepaid as well. My quads are still too and I did a red-eye flight the same night. Glad we all made it back home.
@patrickvanderwal6324
@patrickvanderwal6324 10 месяцев назад
Glad you have Valencia on the radar. Did a 17 minutes PR there last Sunday. Amazing course and perfect weather.
@wk633
@wk633 10 месяцев назад
My legs are a lot more sore this year chasing 3 (went low 3:05) than last year when I had a larger predicted finish range and started easy, finished fast. Trying to push it in the first half really takes a toll on the quads, both up AND down.
@bersonlee
@bersonlee 10 месяцев назад
It was so warm hearted to see true love and the kids so excited to embrace you back at home!
@tsubakichan
@tsubakichan 10 месяцев назад
My first CIM too, and it was super tough. My worst miles were 23-24 - I think that bridge took it out of me for a bit until I retained my bearings at the end. All a learning experience. Onward and upwards to all of us!
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
We keep learning together!
@mad8298
@mad8298 10 месяцев назад
It is not a downhill course. It is a rolling hill course, which was tough. Yes, there is a slight net downhill, but that 650 ft of elevation gain is no joke. Plus it was humid in the morning and got warmer than it usually does. Good job on your big effort.
@merlabel1253
@merlabel1253 10 месяцев назад
Nice to see the real struggle it is to continue to PR. Not every race gets the results we want, especially when the margin for error is so close.
@blueaxe27
@blueaxe27 10 месяцев назад
Well said
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
we fight on!
@BrendonCamm
@BrendonCamm 10 месяцев назад
Absolute legend as always Seth, thank you for inspiring me (and us) to push ourselves physically, mentally, spiritually. You allow us to see you can have a wonderful family while being physically fit, seeking beauty, chasing PRs and operate a small business! You're a machine. Thanks for sharing.
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
Brendon, thank you for being you. Appreciate you so much sir. Hope we can share a group run and staring line down the road.
@LHRunning
@LHRunning 3 месяца назад
Hey Seth, thanks so much for your inspiration in my running and my vlogging. Just finished State XC champs in NSW 🇦🇺 and just missed the w.
@jameschaves5723
@jameschaves5723 9 месяцев назад
Seth I was there and ran my 1st sub 3:00. Yes its fast but NOT easy!! If you’re not prepared for the rollers it catches up on the back half.
@pobsarducttapeproducts8763
@pobsarducttapeproducts8763 7 месяцев назад
I’m from San Jose. I despise Sacramento passionately. But, the airport is pretty good 🤷🏻‍♂️
@tav4755
@tav4755 10 месяцев назад
In Denver area, Coal Creek, (Louisville)and Big Dry creek (westminster)have some small rollers(coalcreek has a solid hill), and if you go out and back for 14-18 mile workouts, you get about 4-600t gain or so. But the best is the gradual descent and uninterrupted path mile after mile
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
the hunt is on! thanks for the ideas!
@wk633
@wk633 10 месяцев назад
The late start was because they had a shortage of busses. Some of the sources didn't provide as many busses as planned so they had to do more trips from some locations. Which makes it pretty amazing they got the show going only 10 min late. The bigger issue is going to be the medal controversy. Or controversies. One is that people finishing in over the 6hr cutoff aren't guaranteed medals, but also some people who did finish under 6 were told they had to take either a backpack or a medal, but not both. I was initially told that. Seems like some volunteer coordination miscommunication.
@VietBotPDX
@VietBotPDX 10 месяцев назад
interested in seeing a breakdown of your training block too! How would you have put your block together differently knowing what you know now? Only having 9 weeks didn't help :-/ But if you're gonna do Chicago, would you do a 16 or 18 week block? any interest in any of the more popular training methodologies like Jack Daniels or Doug Pfitzinger?
@1519Spring
@1519Spring 10 месяцев назад
It's Pete Pfitzinger and Scott Douglas (co-authors of Advanced Marathoning) (not Doug Pfitzinger - you blended their names), but your question is still valid.
@VietBotPDX
@VietBotPDX 9 месяцев назад
@@1519Springgreat catch. Thank you!
@LyJoyRuns
@LyJoyRuns 10 месяцев назад
Wheels fell off and still ran 2:28! Curious to why didn’t race a flatter course like Chicago, Grandmas, Houston?
@KeepMovingForwardAlways983
@KeepMovingForwardAlways983 9 месяцев назад
Seth thank you I just discovered your channel today, this is probably my 10th video I watched of you speaking about running and giving tips. You also a great family man as well man, may GOD continue to work and bless you and your families lives. I wanted to ask would you recommend CIM or Houston to run a PR? I agree I have been studying the course since I been thinking about running this course and I’m like do I want to keep running down and possible up hills to try and PR. So thank you if you can answer this or anyone that is an experience runner who has run these courses. I’m new to the game 1 year in so thank you. (Side note little man definitely gave you the “bro where you been face?” Loll)
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 9 месяцев назад
Welcome aboard! Thanks for checking out the channel and you have a lot of videos to go watch
@vincec3773
@vincec3773 10 месяцев назад
man you have great ability and i admire that effort to look at the breakdown of the splits makes me think you can go 2 Hours 22 Minutes or 2 21 without taking the brave risk you took in this race well done to finish 2 Hours and 28 Minutes which is a time most runners will never achieve just amazing
@1519Spring
@1519Spring 10 месяцев назад
I'm sure those last couple miles 10:10 didn’t feel like zone 1 "Active Recovery"!
@DIYTechRepairs
@DIYTechRepairs 10 месяцев назад
The "walk of marathon" :P
@vernonbell1628
@vernonbell1628 10 месяцев назад
Awesome video Seth!! So encouraging to hear your review and outlook for the future!
@htmonaro1969
@htmonaro1969 10 месяцев назад
I'm a huge Johnny Cash fan as well, especially his gospel and rockabilly periods. I was an announcer on a local community radio station for around 6 years and I would always play a couple Johnny Cash tunes every program (although I did play more Blind Boys of Alabama tunes). Thanks for the Johnny Cash references.
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 9 месяцев назад
Glad we can unite over some Cash!
@DrProfX
@DrProfX 9 месяцев назад
Yes! Coming to Chicago?! I’m doing it in 2024, too! So hope to see you there and go on a shake out run!!👍
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 9 месяцев назад
LIVE today: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DFY-Q5dj7gc.html
@young-spark
@young-spark 10 месяцев назад
Onward and upward. Let's keep it going!
@averagerunner_
@averagerunner_ 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your reflections on your race Seth!
@matthewslagle247
@matthewslagle247 8 месяцев назад
Hey Seth, another awesome job at CIM! I hope the next training bloc goes well and cannot wait to be apart of that journey as you prepare for Chicago. I have ran it before as my second ever marathon and had a massive PR (went from 3:40 to 3:05). If I could offer my two cents on Chicago is that the weather can sometimes be unpredictable but usually on the colder side with the time of year and being by the lake. Lastly, on mile 25, depending on where the wind blows it can feel like your running in a unfavorable wind tunnel. Again, can't wait for this next training bloc and onward and upward! And keep buttering that bread!
@carlosparra85
@carlosparra85 9 месяцев назад
I did CIM 2022. I do not think the CIM downhills are what cooks your legs; it's the rolling hills of the first 1/2 of the race. I had done two previous downhill marathons (Utah Valley Marathon & St George Marathon), and they really went great (with no downhill training, I live in Dallas). Certainly, the quads were a bit sore towards the end, but still, I felt great. CIM was a killer for me. The rolling hills killed my hamstrings and glutes, and after that, I couldn't recover. I may have gone a bit faster than I should, but still.
@georgesoto5436
@georgesoto5436 10 месяцев назад
Love the ending with the family greeting you, that’s awesome!
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 9 месяцев назад
They are the best!
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for tuning in.
@davidgunther1282
@davidgunther1282 9 месяцев назад
Apparently the 10 min delay at the start was due to a snafu with a few of the busses getting the pickup at one of the hotels. That’s the word on the street anyway.
@ColeRunning
@ColeRunning 10 месяцев назад
Enjoyed that a lot. Makes me nervous for when i eventually enter marathon world haha! Thanks Seth
@xanderbastiaansen5579
@xanderbastiaansen5579 9 месяцев назад
Did I just hear your knee crackling at 8:00 into the video? Great effort on CIM, onward and upward to the next race (and a PB!).
@Matterzzz
@Matterzzz 9 месяцев назад
I’m in the same boat, I have never been that sore after a race before CIM. As soon as I crossed the finish line the pain was on. I had to walk about 2 miles to hotel because of road closures. I agree with the course profile to, seemed fast only because everyone was pushing to go fast, really pulls the best out of you. Those hills were relentless though. Definitely a course you have to earn to get a good performance!
@markjeter6117
@markjeter6117 9 месяцев назад
You did great Seth!! You’re body remembers and you can’t PR unless you try to go for it! Good job sticking to the plan. Much respect!
@SainthomasS
@SainthomasS 9 месяцев назад
Hey Seth. I absolutely love this video recap. Me and Alex listened to your live stream the day after.
@Kevin-cf8uu
@Kevin-cf8uu 9 месяцев назад
You know you worked hard when you're that sore and can't walk down the stairs :D
@Carlos-sy7ye
@Carlos-sy7ye 9 месяцев назад
You should come do Mesa Marathon in Arizona!!
@MattRunsColorado
@MattRunsColorado 10 месяцев назад
Elevation gain in this is very similar to the Colfax marathon in Denver!
@Deadbuck73
@Deadbuck73 10 месяцев назад
12th! I’ll take it! Glad to be here another day! Thanks Seth!
@smithssquared
@smithssquared 9 месяцев назад
Love the content Seth! I've never ran marathon yet but plan to do so in the future.
@AbleHammer
@AbleHammer 10 месяцев назад
St. George is another one where people come to bag BQ attempts PRs etc
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
St George?! Canada? NY?
@preyforeyes07
@preyforeyes07 10 месяцев назад
utah@@SethJamesDeMoor
@AbleHammer
@AbleHammer 10 месяцев назад
@@SethJamesDeMoor yes! Utah!
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 9 месяцев назад
Also the Tunnel series on WA and Mountains2Beach in Ventura, CA
@haebolduc5625
@haebolduc5625 9 месяцев назад
Lessons that we learned from is priceless 😊
@aidanhanley4412
@aidanhanley4412 10 месяцев назад
were you happy with the alpha fly 2s? not saying another shoe would have changed your result but how did it feel racing in them
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
loved 'em....but the 3 is going to change the game again
@lucasmellinger1084
@lucasmellinger1084 10 месяцев назад
Loving that you are back on the tube. You got lose in the algorithm for awhile!!
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
hit that notification bell Lucas
@Shevock
@Shevock 9 месяцев назад
You know, lots of folk never take the wagons out and so the wheels never fall off. But they also never get anywhere.
@KillStreakMcH
@KillStreakMcH 9 месяцев назад
I consider cim a bit of a cheater course. Is that not the general consensus?
@angeloskadis9968
@angeloskadis9968 9 месяцев назад
In my book it’s much more difficult than Berlin or Chicago
@OttoVogrincic
@OttoVogrincic 10 месяцев назад
That is a lot of elevation gain for a fast course
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
truly is!
@mikedickerson3944
@mikedickerson3944 9 месяцев назад
CIM is not a particularly fast course. It is a racer’s course with a fast field.
@Deadbuck73
@Deadbuck73 10 месяцев назад
Love all the second guessers… the Monday morning quarterbacks… man I’ve never run a sub 6 mile in my life… and Seth is over there running 5:20s all day long! Seth’s game really doesn’t need to be questioned. Keep crushing it like Quint!
@eoincasey5461
@eoincasey5461 10 месяцев назад
😂
@SethJamesDeMoor
@SethJamesDeMoor 10 месяцев назад
@margaretblake5051
@margaretblake5051 10 месяцев назад
it's not second guessing, it's giving critical feedback so he can improve, like he would like to do.
@chrisdick726
@chrisdick726 10 месяцев назад
Good morning Seth and DGR 🙂🏃🏻
@TrailrunnerTroy
@TrailrunnerTroy 9 месяцев назад
Raced a 100-miler in Louisiana while you were doing us proud at CIM. Running continuously downhill is an art that requires specific training to build endurance strength, so no worries - go flat next time and all shall be well!
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