@@Y_Alexandrawell most likely is because they don't wanna open there home to a bunch of migrants cause don't for get not everyone voted for this the election was rigged
I can't afford to move so I'm forced to move with hardly anything and build my life up somewhere else after shelter . I'm not letting being broke stop me .
Well yea the focus should be on homelessness and public safety. Not alot of us are wealthy, just hard workers breaking our backs to bring your packages to your doorstep for a paycheck every weekend. We cant afford to live in the safety of a bubbled neighborhood with security patrol. But that is not a concern to many or make increase of incomes. So just flee that is okay.
I'm pretty sure that they care about the exorbitant taxes and how even after it's paid it doesn't improve safety, security or improve way of life... Fascinating watching the collapse of this socialist state
I moved out of California last year to South Carolina and couldn’t be more happier. Taxes, democrat policies, and homelessness was the breaking point. I will never vote democrat no matter what!
You must be braindead. Republicans care only about their wealthy donors. Unless you have one of them in YOUR pocket, you are one of the garbage they DONT CARE ABOUT.
THE RESON WHY A MOVED OUT OF CALIFORNIA AND moved to Alabama last year? My story, My wife and I ran a small business Downtown in LA, Its are the taxes are so high I had to raise my prices at our store just to make ends meet. When I raised my price I could no longer compete with the big box stores thus losing business and as a result lowering my income. And I could no longer afford my property tax or my business taxes. 2nd California has the highest gas taxes, the highest utility taxes, and the highest Property Taxes in the Nation. 3rd reason crime. I we went to work at our store we drove past countless homeless people living on the street. We would drive by people selling and using drugs in broad daylight with impunity. Also 2 months before we moved, a man came into the store stuck a gun in my face, and told me if I didn't give him all the money in the cash register he would "BLOW ME AWAY' so I gave him the money I called the police they to a report and they promptly caught the guy two blocks away shooting up. He was taken to jail. The very next day the same man again robbed my store and took all my money again. On top of that, I have countless people shoplifting daily sealing everything from cigarettes to toilet paper with immunity. My insurance company dropped me, stating I was too high risk. So I had enough and we moved to Alabama where my wife's mother lives. Now I love California the state is beautiful There are many free parks the beaches are great and recreation in California is second to none. But we were forced to give all that up including I was forced to leave my mother, father, and two sisters behind. My wife and I started a new business in Alabama and are making way more money than we ever did in California because no one steals from our store or tries to rob me. Not only that taxes are ridiculously low, we now live in a house that is twice the size of the one in California for Half the price. And the property taxes are so low here I don't see how they can afford to fix the roads or anything and don't get me going on gas prices I was paying $5.69 a gallon the last time I filled up 3.39 a gallon. But everything is not all roses. The summer here are extremely hot I mean really hot and humid and there are bugs everywhere. What most surprised me about Alabama besides the cost of living is that my family is black and I was told by all my California friends that I was making a grave mistake because everyone knew that Alabama was the racist Capital of the world! But I came to find out there are far more racists in California than in Alabama. The first day we moved in a white couple knocked on our door and invited us to a family BBQ they were having on Sunday. My wife was sure how we would be treated but we went anyway to my surprise we weren't the only black couples there were lots of them, along with Asians, Filipinos, and Hispanic couples they were laughing, kids playing together. They had just finished church and were invited to my neighbor's home for a BBQ. The bottom line is I think I'm going to like it here in Alabama and wish I had moved out there years ago. So for my Fellow California don't be afraid to leave there is a brave and better life waiting for you outside California
Your taxes are high to pay for Messican illegal aliens education,medical care,housing section 8, food stamps and escalating teachers salaries due to overcrowded classrooms because of DACA,and their sanctuary status!! Every 4 to 5 years teachers hold tax payers hostage and go on strike demanding more money cause of their overcrowded classrooms filled up with illegal alien kids! California has to raise taxes to help pay for the cost of illegal aliens!
Really, people don't want to see homeless people passed out in front of their stores and businesses. Police defunded, etc... But talk to California representatives "Nothing is happening. It's all exaggeration!" 🙄🙄
Here's a typical example WHY. I was in line at home depot and a middle aged Mexican man walked out the door with so many power tools in his arms he could barely see where he was going. I yelled at him and when I started to go after him the security guard stopped me and said don't do it it's not worth it. I was so mad I felt like he was steeling from me. I watched him just slowly walk through the parking lot and he went over to where all the day labor guys were hanging out. This is allowed by the California politicians. That's why people are leaving. Don't getting me start on the open drug markets use and the same druggies pooping on the side walk. But hey not to worry, as long as you're calling the idiots by their proper pronouns pronouns it's all good
Gregread935, you must me some kind of s****** to see a person of color or likeness and state where that person is from. What made you think he was Mexican? The taco hanging from his rear pocket? Was he wearing a sombrero? Before stealing all those items, was he playing loteria? Did he at anytime said "ahy caramba" or sang la cucaracha? Lol Oh my God. Give me a break, if I see you on the street and if you're white with blue eyes. I'll guess you're from Greenland or even better from the mother land Germany!!! 🤣🤣 Es war mir eine Freude, deinen Beitrag zu kommentieren, mein Freund vom anderen Ende der Welt, ich wünsche dir einen schönen Tag, Freund aus Deutschland!!
As a Florida native, I’m used to people moving here my entire life. My only advice, leave ur bad voting habits behind. Ur moving here because ur last state failed u and our state is doing well because we vote smart here. Don’t ruin a good thing here.
Most migration to florida comes from the north east my boy. People with money that want to retire becuase homes at one point were cheaper in florida than the rest of the major citys and states with white sandy beaches. But now that has change .and people are going to start moving out becuase of that migration problem the natives are getting price out. The rise of homelessness is about to hit florida just watch my boy. And believe me it has nothing to do with politics. California is expensive a shack cost 900k.
We moved to Las Vegas 2 years ago when my husband retired. Las Vegas is a bit hot in the summer but we travel a lot in the summer months so we don’t stay in Vegas during July thru October and only stay there for 7-8 months a year. We bought a small house in Vegas and price is half of California and no state income tax. We used the extra money to travel to many places and stay at Some Air b and b a month at time and still have extra money to put in our savings account. It was a great plan. May be later we can rent a service apartment in Reno (much cooler) and stay there 4 months a year.
I was born and have lived in Los Angeles California all 49 years of my life. All those states on that list have one thing in common and absolutely 💯 nobody is allowed to say it. The problem goes way beyond economic incentives. One other thing, and this is NOT being said to be mean to those lookig for better lives. The United States does NOT have unlimited resources to continue to receive the world's impoverished. We cannot continue to allow "Sanctuary" cities to bring in MORE people that require MORE taxes to pay for MORE services that God knows how many of our own people are not getting, including veterans. People can't say these things because they will be immediately canceled, banished, and lose their stupid SAG/Aftra cards. I get it, people from war torn impoverished miserably broken countries desperately want to have a better quality of life. *SO DO WE* and not every American Citizen has that because they are consistently required to pay for more wirh more labor only to be rewarded less while our city, county, federal employees, and officials play God with our resources and lives. "America is a nation of immigrants though and many new immigrants work jobs Americans don't want to" is NOT an excuse anymore. We have to fix now for who we have now and with what we have. God almighty stop this woke chaos.
@@cheaserceaseryou know there are millions and millions of conservatives in California. Over 6 million people voted for Trump. Stop with the voting blue bullshit.
Our tax dollars have been vacuumed up by suburbs in an unwinnable battle to maintain their own roadways. Look up the property tax from any mcmansion and compare to the cost to repave just the street in front of it.
No matter how much you love the California Dream we made the decision to move out of San Diego to a neighbor state. Im a born San Diegan but no matter how much the city life contains California is so not affordable anymore.
can thank all the mexicans/latinos. THey are democrats.. The reason california is soo ghetto and failing they thrive off being ghetto and uneducated ignorant losers
Please wherever you go, don’t vote Democrat there. That party is turning communist very fast, even trying to lock up political rivals over trivial things.
If you look at the states where the wealthy are leaving. 7 of the 9 are democrat majority. The states that they are moving to, 7 of the 9 are republican.
Show me ONE well run republican state. Just one. Texas? Nope collapsing electrical grid in summer and winter. Florida? You must be joking. If you actually care about facts and not your confirmation bias, you'll find that all blue states carry red states economically. Show me ONE republican policy that helps the average American.
@@tfustudios Utah has wasted so much water the Great Salt Lake is drying up, putting millions in danger. Also, polygamy. Idaho has a failing healthcare system due to evil laws designed to force real doctors out that actually wanna help people and it's a hotbed for Neo-Nazi scum.
In other words, the wealthy are leaving the states that tax less and going to more states that are tax friendly. When 20% of the richest are paying for 80% of the services. It will get a lot worse for those that are left behind. I watched a video on Detroit and how it was considered by some to be the best place to live, in the world but after the wealthy left, they couldn't afford all the social programs that everyone else voted on. Its, considered by many to be one of the least favorite places to visit much less live.
@@AKAAAKAbout that my guy, Beauty & Weather in Cities does pay the bills it's called "Tourism" Hotel also charge an extra tax called "Resort Fees" of which goes back into the city.. Here in San Diego is the best weather...I ain't leaving, then again I'm not a sheisty rich so who cares 😂
@syrotronic5278 🤣 So if you stood outside all day in this beautiful weather, it'll sprinkle down money to pay your bills!!! Tourism only applies if you're in that industry. As well there aren't too many "rich" hotel workers out there living up that lifestyle. Only ones getting rich are the owners and that excludes most all of us. But you go ahead.
@@AKAAAK If it floats your boat...Sure why not call them sprinkles..I call it Sun Tax 😁 I can rent my house for 6500 a month if you want speak hypotheticaly but whatever you still wouldn't get it.
I’m not wealthy, but I moved out, and out of the United States to europe. The ONLY thing I miss about San Diego is…Los Quattro Milpas in the barrio, the best tacos ever!
It is only going to be a worse place to live. The state has such a big deficit and their tax base keeps shrinking as more of the wealthy leave. They are going to have to make up the deficit with higher taxes and more fees. good luck to those that live there. It was the greatest place to live when I was there over 20 years ago.
The golden age for California was like 1950 - 2000... When Orange County had Oranges....and a 4 lane highway... with 30% of the population... as it grew it declined... now it's so over-populated and socially in massive decline with woke justice...
Insane prices for rent and new homes pushed me and my family out of state. Retirement, disability and my wifes income combined was not enough for "California" mortgage lenders. They were looking for high income earners and not middle class.
They aren't really leaving. They are buying a second house in another state and changing their primary residence for tax purposes, but they still spend most of their time physically in California.
You do realize that Gavin is on to that scheme. I believe he is already enacting a grift (I mean law) that taxes you if you are "visiting for more than a week. And also trying to tax people leaving the state. I'm not making this up.
The rich people start most of the businesses. It costs 2-10 million dollars to open a grocery store, 350k-500k to open a pizza restaurant, 100k-250k to start an accounting firm or law firm. Without rich people, there will be fewer business start ups, less income tax revenue, less real estate tax revenue (which leads to fewer services (road repair, cops, government workers)... I know because I live in Cleveland (Detroit's cousin).
tennesse should be # 1. we have no state income tax, jobs, and water. chattanooga is the best place to be right now. come visit, you'll be amazed. #sceniccity it looks like paradise, everything is green.
Are you trying to get your state Californicated with this message? They are happy to drive prices through the roof, and push everyone out. It happened to all the west coast states. Can't believe how unintelligent locals there are with these messages.
Making well over 6 figures and yeah the amount we get taxed is insane. So little to show for it. After my benefits, 401k, taxes my income gets chopped to 60% or less. Going out to eat here services everything across the board is expensive.
I had a vision of total destitution in CA. They were aggressively going after the poor. I also seen, dust and brokenness. Corruption is a leading cause of brokenness.
I had that same vision 13 years ago when I left. I envisioned all my well to do friends and family who mocked me for moving to Texas when I left in 2010, they all stayed and were taxed to the hilt to pay for everyone and everything else. The wealthy and those with a brain left in droves. Also I envisioned these friends and family members of mine, who never valued shit I had to say, paying some form of dire consequences for their ignorance. They were robbed, priced out, uninsurable, and the last and worst thing, unable to move because of all the economic factors that come from a state that had all of its earning potential completely leave. Since coming here, I have earned degrees in business, state licenses, finally get the VA care Im supposed to, and now have a career and own a home and drive a car that I would never have had if I remained in California spinning my wheels like I was. When I speak to people of the past, the scorn in their voice is blatantly obvious, they dont know how to have a decent conversation with me. I will gracefully speak to them as though nothing happened, but because they know I am thriving, they cant even be happy for me, because of all the shit they dished my way. I went back recently only because my uncle is dying, it all looks pathetic, homeless people camped out on every corner, the fresh smell of fecal matter everywhere you go, crime, the list goes on.......fuck that place.
It's eaiser to run away from the problem when you have family or friends in other states to move in with. People like me who are CA natives and only have family here in CA are pretty much stuck here until we either save up enough to move or just leave on a whim. Im desperate to leave as well but making the best of the situation for now.
Moving. Not yet, we're still employed, have family, but in less than 10 years we reach retirement age and we cannot continue to afford the cost of living. So we refinanced our house back in 2021 and built a retirement home in Mexico, my husband's hometown. We invest all our savings in Mexico. Bought CDs with a 13% return a year. The dollar is dropping in value, so it makes sense. We are, blue collar workers making under $100K A year. Living in the Bay Area, that's not enough.
Retiring in MEXICO? WHY? Just because your husband speaks the lingo? Consider: Medicare does not cover medical care outside the U.S. Mexican hospitals and medical care are "third world" and dangerous. Gonna come back into the U.S. for medical care then watch the traffic: "...only a five hour wait for the San Ysidro border crossing today.... (a long wait if your appendix is rupturing.
🤔 it's everywhere....in most other states you get a lot less for it. I wish it was socialized. Its capitalism and it doesn't work for everyone. Just for the top.
@@marryellenmonahan5585 Capitalism does work. Go look at Venezuela is you want to see what socialism does. In many way "progressives i.e. socialist" are doing this to our cities right now.
@@alansnyder8448 look at Scandinavian countries.... They are the happiest in the world. If capitalism worked we wouldn't have extreme poverty in the richest country in the world.
socialist policies work to help the blue collar worker, if applied correctly. But, I suspect you're using a redtard buzzword because...well...thats what people in a cult do. Regurgitate buzzwords and rhetoric.
i left socal back in 2007. taxes were a big reason, but so was the traffic. my gosh i was spending 5 to 6 hours a day in traffic just to get to and from work. it didn't matter where i lived it was the same. then on top of it all i kept hearing is how they wanted to turn all the freeways into toll road - enough was enough. then taxes... every year the state would take half my federal income tax return. i live in nevada now. NO STATE INCOME TAX here and i make better money here too. also i don't spend more than a half hour in my truck going anywhere and my commute to work is 10 minutes each way. lets not even talk about how much cheaper it is to live here and the gas is always a dollar cheaper a gallon than california. i don't miss california at all
Wow! I never thought the day would come that I would see this. California has been in the limelight for years with all of its outrageous taxes. Now I guess it has gotten so out of hand because of inflation and even the wealthy people are saying they need a break. And to think, I was going to consider moving there at one point. 😂 Never mind! I will seek employment elsewhere. Somewhere that I can get a better bang for my bucks. 💰🤑💲💵💵💵
California will become a federally mandated homeless settlement, where the homeless can go and obtain the services they need. It will be a weird partnership between Fed and State.
Exactly and the news tried to spin this report , asserting that the new state will experience massive economic growth due to some people not wanting to pay taxes moving there.
This story is about how much money the state is losing due to so many high income earners leaving. Per the numbers the showed it was significantly over the #2 state, NY then well over twice as much potential wealth lost as from #3 down. The top five losing wealth are extreme Democratic strongholds, almost all the top ten gaining states are Republican. This shouldn’t be shocking, our current govenor and vast majority of state assessmbly and senators are too busy competing in a woke virtue signaling olympics, squandering what normal politicians before them built to where this state is teetering on the edge both financially and socially.
It's not the population ya doofus. It's the wealthy that are living. They don't care about the peasants moving out. The state losing money. Lots of it.
Why would anyone want to stay and have the state take half your paycheck then give it to drug addict homeless and people who aren't from this country or contribute in any way to society.
I moved out 2o years ago. The only reason I would still stay there as a retiree if I still owned the home I had. Prop 13 helps lower the cost of living for many. I have a friend in Yorba Linda that only pays $2,00 in property taxes on a $600,000 bungalow.
You could move to Hawaii and get the homeowners exemption... Renting in cali is going to be risky with their new tenant rules.. Like if you evict someone without cause you have to give them 3 months rent to move... what kind of clown world is that? Plus all that covid no rent paying stuff... what a joke! (I think that's San Diego but an example)
Seriously thinking of moving! Possibly completely out of the country, but most likely at least out of CA. Unless politics change quickly CA will be unlivable before long.
@shg -- if you plan on leaving the country, I recommend BEFORE doing that, you change residency to another state (NV would be the logical choice). If you just leave the country with a CA DL/ID, the state of CA may claim you are still a "resident' even though you live abroad, and seek to tax your income...
Florida may be a good spot for the rich to bring their wealth. But it's a shit deal for the low income locals who already live there. Median pay is still below $60k a year. While in the last three years rent and home costs have gone up 40%. Before 2020 you could buy a home with $70k a year. Now it takes $120k a year. So I hope you bring your California job with you. And if you are bringing a business. I guess you can expect to hire some cheap workers who can barely pay their bills. Especially in Miami where people who are fresh off the boat will fight to take shit wages.
I can tell you if you move to Tennessee do not chose Memphis. I believe Nashville is the only reason Tennessee is on that list. I live in Memphis and I can tell you it is an awful place. Nashville has cranes all over the horizon, so it’s obvious that Nashville is growing due to the wealthy moving there, it sure as hell isn’t Memphis. I would move to Nashville any chance I could to get out of Memphis, I hate it here!
I've lived in California for 30 years, and before that 3 in Texas. Really nice people in Texas. You might actually get to know your neighbors in Texas. In California, not so much.
@@Cyrus992 Well I can think of one of my Texas neighbors that was an ass, but the rest were great and I go to know them all. Got to visit all of their homes. Here in California on my current street, I only know one, and we just exchange text messages and have never been in their home, just on the driveway once. It is very different. And the only reason she exchanges text messages is to ask about her cat which goes missing occasionally. That is very different than Texas. But honestly, when we leave California we are more likely to go back to rural Michigan which is fantastic in the summer, and near Tampa Florida during the winter.
They go anywhere there is less legal freedoms for the worker to keep their greed fed however at thus point if you haven't caught on they all live on a private island somewhere to keep us content with the rates they push as livable and what they ask for isn't even sustainable
We're not wealthy, so we'll be staying (we're also old, and our mortgage is paid off). [regarding the "destination states," we've lived in Florida (8 years), Texas (2 years), Colorado (4 years), and Utah (less than 1 year)--our favorites of those being Colorado and Utah, with Texas 3rd (Texas is the friendliest, but the summertime heat!). Lots of nice places in the USA to live or visit.]
@@_WILDANDFREE_ Well, the kids go out the door at 18. Maybe we will send them a postcard with a return address to the new place if we like them enough. LOL. More seriously, I grew up in the Midwest and the only reason I came to California was because of jobs. If I can have a nice job and move away from California, I will. And that seems likely since I'm sitting right now at my mom's farm in Michigan for the next two weeks working on my NASA contract job. Also, my daughter is currently working in Boston, so the family is already spread across the country. She plans to come to the farm in Michigan to work remotely for two weeks for her Boston job in October, and I'll fly in from California to spend those two weeks working in Michigan too.
You only have to "appear" to live in a state for 6 months of each year to claim residency... many wealthy Californians "move" their primary residence to states with friendlier tax rates for income and estate purposes (buy property, transfer a few bills, get ID, etc), yet still maintain homes in California, where they spend a majority of their time.
I know many highly skilled tech workers that have left. they are taking their skills, money, and any jobs they would create by being here to other places. My wife and I are leaving as soon as the youngest kid finishes high school. We are likely to have two houses, but it will be one in Charlevoix Michigan (a fantastic town on Lake Michigan), and Tampa Florida which doesn't have people pooping in the streets like San Francisco. (I used to take BART into SF, and it has decayed dramatically in 5 years)
This may be true but don't underestimate the impact that normal families leaving have made in these numbers too, which is surely considerable. Maybe you wouldn't consider a couple that earns between 100k-200k as "wealthy" (definitely not in California), with kids to boot but there's a lot like that, that have left in recent years and haven't set foot back in. If you do the math it wouldn't really even take that many normal income families like that to make a dent in the tax income the state sees.
@@rayb.6537 You apparently cannot read. I said Michigan in the summer. Did learn that lack of reading comprehension in California. Did you see California is now going to implement a watered-down math curriculum for "social justice reasons"? I'm lucky my kids are almost out, but if I had younger kids I'd find a place that doesn't water down the math classes with woke politics.
@@Anarki3x6 And it is really affecting places like San Francisco. This person who left with 20 million in assets owned a townhouse and started companies with tech workers in San Francisco. When it became sketchy for him (and more importantly his wife and young son) to even walk around SF and said I'm out of here. San Francisco is becoming Detroit faster than Detroit became Detroit (after the auto industry left). The SF tech bust is going to be epic and will be replaced with drug users pooping in all the streets.
This is a good story. We will be leaving California too, as soon as the youngest finishes high school. This is a good list of states to move to. For anyone that left California, I would like to hear where you move to and why you like that place.
Im going to be leaving to attend law school and I may not come back. It’s going to suck. But, living her isn’t sustainable. I’m also not paying 10 percent of my rent for this states out of control spending.
Let me out, I can't afford to live here, and I can't afford to move out of here either I am stuck here unless I win the lottery and that's not going to happen since I can't afford to play.
We live in a nice neighborhood in TN (average home sold $903,000 last month). My brother's area starts at $1.6 and his 5 new neighbors "escaped" CA. I went to a meet and greet. All worked from home, sold their CA home and bought one 4 times bigger for half the cost. The biggest complaints: taxes, fees, prices, traffic, "lunatics in charge", "worst state to do business, build anything or start anything." Violence and spreading crime. Two worked for one of the many financial companies that's fled. The couple from San Francisco (two gay guys - lol) had hilarious stories about encounters with the homeless, crazies and druggies. Each made over $150,000 and saved $12,000/year in state income tax (none).
We left for a considerably more expensive city. Apart from the tax issues, it was primarily the demographic there just doesn't aline, the crime and deluge of transients, and a big reason was the weather. endless summer is pretty much awful.
