That's how I've done every valley on every roof I've ever done. I call it a no-cut valley. I've never had a leak or a roof blow off yet. But I also don't shoot my nails into the basement.
@@z9944xI am not a roofer. I have looked for that information and can’t find it. I’m doing a roof on small shed. How much or should nails come out the other side? On shingles and 30 min paper on 1/2 plywood what nail do u use
A "California valley " is not wrong depending on the climate you live in. Water is shed off of a roof faster using a W style metal valley. Water is slowed down while on the granular surface of shingles. If you've watched how a flash flood backs up, its similar to that. We had a leak on an 8/12" pitched roof because of a cupped deck board that was slowing down the water and found a nail directly above it. We used to do this California valley here in MN for years, but have learned that the W is better with our weather. I would recommend putting strips of ice & water shield along the edges of the valley before installing shingles. Always need to watch the pressure so that you dont blow through nailing strips on shingles to ensure you dont have csll backs for blow off or sliding shingles. My 2 cents...
Putting the left lower corner of each full-length shingle in the valley leads to an obvious repeating pattern on the roof in that section which won't look so good from below. The stepped offsets are just not enough to break up that pattern.
Ok, lots of roofers here. I have been out of the game for a while. Can I get opinions from you roofers on spray on insulation to the underside of the roof deck. No air space, right to the underside of the plywood. Longterm results you have found. Thank you.
i would never be satisfied after doing a roof with all of the nails basically driving right through all the shingles, such an easy fix either turn the air down or fix your setting on the gun.
My favorite way to shingle a valley. We call it a saw-tooth valley. Great work man, love how there’s appropriate space from your first and second nail for the seams.
Jefe la línea e oido decir que no se pone al centro yo quiero saver para cual lado se mueve o no ay problema si queda enmedlo espero tenga chanza de contestar gracias
This is how not to roof. He's blowing the nails through the shingles. They will slide off in less than 4 years and guaranteed to leak as soon as the shingles start to dry out around the nails in about 2-3 years. He's wasting shingles by not cutting them to fit, costing more, and creating more work by cutting them again, dragging the job out. Thx to guys like you, i'm a superstar roofer.
@@Shonuff42080 I'm a carpenter and I know he's got no hold on those shingles. I think I saw one nail that wasnt blown through the shingle.Wasting his time and leaving the homeowner with a future headache. He obviously knows more about layout and nail pattern placement than the guy in the video so what's the point of defending the guy in the video?
@@Shonuff42080 his pressure is too high all of his nails fired right through the shingles. Doesn't matter if his nail placement is fine if the nails are down in the kitchen
espero no me odies por mi comentario honesto mi amigo . Deverias bajarle un poco la pression al compressor comenzaste de la izquierda , y creo que es incorrecto por que tu clavas con la derecha , la regla dice que si eres clavador derecho debes de comenzar del lado isquierdo primero . me refiero a que deberias istalar el valley de la isquierda primero y despues el de la derecha, pero en fin , respeto tu trabajo y tu experiencia , solo es mi opinion . De la forma en que lo hiciste te quedaran una o mas lineas cortas y tardaras mas en sacar medidas para aliniarte con el otro lado del valley . en general , eres buen installador solo bajale un poco la presion a tu compresor y un poco a la pistola. gracias . Eric.
Roofing Solutions By Eric Garcia el velley siempre es primero el de menos inclinación sea derecho oh izquierdo no puedes poner primero el que corre más agua
estos que comentan que el trabajo esta mal echo, solo saben de teoria pero de practica no saben nada, no tiene nada que ver si la tapa este mas chica, si la tapa grande es menos inclinada de ahi se tiene que empesar
Not bad. I really can't understand why he would cut the piece at 1:00 into video, he gonna have to cut it later why not cut once. Pretty clean though let me finish watching and see if it qualify for a like. I gave I a like, although I would like to see extra nails along the edge for high winds. That being said I'd give him a job and let him do his thing lol.
Slacking on a cut valley by running a bleader up the valley doesn't do anything but make it noticeable in the valleys. Its passable but is it the best way? He'll no . cut valley is the way to go.
I hate this "speed valley" trend looks like complete crap. Guys are too lazy to do it right with a pair of shingle snips. It's called attention to detail. It cheapens the roofing industry. I can't even compete with guys in my area on shingles anymore because they are so much cheaper on price hacking roofs like this. I stick to standing seam and slate nowadays.
I have repaired more cut valleys then any other type of Valley this type of Valley when done right can be the best type of valley there are no nails two feet away from the valley snow can sit in there and blow up water and no leaks I agree that this guy has his pressure set too high and is going to have blow through but when done right this is a good Valley
Why not take your pieces into the valley and cut them to match the starter. It looks one hell of a lot nicer. Before some know it all tells me I’m an idiot I work for a company that’s been doing it the way I describe for a decade and never had a valley problem. This is the lazy way to do it
It's a great way to do it, when done correctly there is no way of a leak. It looks good and is faster then a traditional valley and is less likely to leak
@@jasonpartlow8764 excatly! Not many know to cut a 45 on top right corner anyway but if you do you're right it's only another step you don't have to do with this method
I have been roofing for 25 years. This style of valley is not wrong. I use it and have never had a leak a good roofer never cuts in a valley you can cut through the shingle and create a leak. I also use moisture guard in my valley as well before shingling it. Now what I see this guy doing wrong is too much air pressure and bad placement of nails. The Nails should be in the nail marking lines or the warranty is null and void.
I use that vally as well as closed and open vally cut and weaved but it's all about the dry in best is wip 300 high temp that shit fuses into the plywood
That valley works but with a good wind seen it not work .ill use it if its cold and hard to weive them but my trade mark old fashioned woven valley and don't matter roof pitch flat will get more because it takes more to reach too on flat all by eye. That won't blow off
The little plastick Pieces on shingles Are supposed to be removed to allow the tar on them to adhere to the shingle above when Temp heats up. They prevent wind from lifting them off, roof damage.
No they are not. They are there to prevent shingles from sticking together while in the packaging. They are packed top to bottom(reversed) every other set. You do not need to remove them...
Sí muy buena sin garantía y se gotea ese lleva lámina aquí no se usa eso es ya viejo y anticuado de baja calidad pero bueno que le vamos a ser por esos vatos tengo mucho trabajo
Does the manufacturer allow for speed valley,I'm trying it on my job it's a really steep pitch I don't know if I trust it on lower pitch does anyone ever have problems with it
Hope you use shingles adhesive under those shingles you lay straight up that at valley font want going under those shingles don't rely on that them tar strips on the back shingle only do so much laminated have bums in them shingles goes up and down dosnt completely bond to valley dirt get in there I do under shingle up the valley then when I done right down all edge that's exposed
Jamie Kinser its a no cut valley, saves time, saves accodentally cutting a whole when cutting your valley. It’s efficient and fast does not leak my company runs this same valley and have been in business for 18 years own one of the biggest roofing companies in the state of Ohio. 28 years ago you didn’t even have dimensional shingles so I know you’re way out of the loop old man. Step back it’s a new era.
Cuando haremos ese trabajo en nuestros paises de origen.dios nos libere de este yugo.yo tengo 40 poniendo lap top sading.y no se asta cuando.ayudanos señor dios
First of all , "California valley" is acceptable by most manufacturers now adays ... so stop saying it's wrong Nails are blowing thru and your using staples on synthetic underlayment (BIG NO NO ) OTHER THAN THAT ... its roofing !!!! It's already horrible as it is ...no need for bunch of" know-it-all "trying to tell him what to do... ROOF ON !!!!!
I'm a new roofer but t seems like to me the water would run under the shingle and onto the decking? Sorry if I'm mistaken if you guys could explain it a little better would love to show this to my crew.
Why bother with shingles? Just put the plywood on the frame, get some tar and a mop. Faster, cheaper, and no need to worry about shingles flying off the roof. Plus if you do get a leak, no worries. Just add more tar. Why waste you time with this? We have the technology. Lol
I've done this type of valley recently and I got to say I really like how it looks. I think it's better then a cut valley. I think it's a better sealed valley. Just my opinion tho
Wow, way to publish how not to roof. This guy really needs to set his gun, most of the nails are actually creating possible leaks due to the fact that they are puncturing the shingles, and furthermore as someone already stated, there is a good chance that should the roof encounter strong winds that the roof will simply blow off. Oh one other thing, this isn't a California style valley, this is called a long island cut. I sure as hell hope you don't show this video to your customers.
Pues este hombre se está ganando la vida y nadie nace sabiendo por lo visto todos saben mejor que el pero en ves de criticarlo mejor enseñenlo al hermano
1500 people have no idea how bad this looks and that’s the issue with our industry. Blow through, can’t see it from my house.... terrible, absolute disgrace
So what's holding the shingles on? Definitely not the nails! This is why I will not hire my roof done by anyone but me! I'm not a roofer by trade but I know my nails won't be shot through the fucking shingles! Jesus!
