Tebaldi's voice was always so beautiful! Even Callas had said she wished that her own voice was as beautiful as Tebaldi's. BUT, Callas had EVERYTHING ELSE! There was so much more to Callas than just a beautiful voice! Beautiful voices are not difficult to come by. But when you add in Callas's impeccable musicianship, her charisma and magnetism, her ability to control and adapt her voice to match what was happening dramatically and musically with each phrase, her unmatched sense of drama, etc, then it stands to reason that in this or any other comparison with Tebaldi (or any other singer for that matter), Callas by far excels.
Malgré une voix superbe et de très belles notes graves ,Tebaldi apparait ici un peu décalée : d'abord elle chante Carmen en italien ( c'est assez extravagant ) et ensuite le tempo est trop lent ,cela manque de rythme ,de mordant ,de piquant .Bref ,c'est éloigné de l'esprit de Carmen ,qui est une rebelle .
Las dos grandísimas pero el drama de callas y su sentimiento la hacen única! Tutti due bravissime però il dramma della callas ed il suo sentimento la fanno essere unica! La voce del 900!
Che bello discutere su Callas e Tebaldi, benché sia presuntuoso! Che livello! Dotate da madre Natura? Sì, ma quanto studio continuo! Che meraviglia. E che serietà.
Opera begins and ends with Maria Callas for me. Different strokes for different folks. Maria Callas was not only a great singer, but look at her stature, attitude, inflection and determination as this "TIGRESS" jousts with the Orchestra and Audience alike. Her stage presence was second to none. None only was she a singer, but she was a great actress of the Opera. No one will ever be able to challenge her....NO ONE!!!
lionofusa1 Just today I discovered a version of Habanera by Conthita Supervia (JUST today !!! And I am over 30!). I have no words to even discribe it. The passion, the way she "belches out" 'Guard yourself", I am speechless. Love Callas as well of course and Conthita's version may not be for everyone, but I sure am a fan. I hope you listen to it if just to hear the passion.
Very interesting. I must say that I liked Tebaldi's much more than I thought I would. It's clear also that she has a wonderfully solid and smoky middle/lower voice. I just wish she didn't flat or lose tonal quality every time she went up for a high note! Callas's chest voice is legendary, and here it serves her magnificently. In terms of characterization, well, Callas sings in French and Tebaldi in Italian. Both have their magnetic qualities.
You don't take into account this is late Tebaldi. The part she would have sung in her youthful prime is Micaela. As to the language, T. always said her technique was so much connected to Italian that she could not sing in other languages.
Tebaldi’s voice has a sharpness that slightly clashes with the orchestra whereas Callas has more depth and works better at giving a fuller,richer tone like a dark bell.
Interesting comparison. In my opinion, Tebaldi starts way too timidly, almost like singing oratorio. But then that chest voice at 5:31 is chef's kiss! And she kinda continues singing with that energy, but eventually it's like it reverts back to the more "stylised" singing. Also the fact it is in Italian, and I barely make out the words, yet Callas' version which is in french (arguably more difficult to pronounce and for me, more difficult to make out the words), sounds as clear as day. Callas is dramatic, yet feisty and playful. So many colours throughout her interpretation. Tebaldi's singing is generally "equalised", but I don't think it's the correct stylistic choice for Carmen.
I'll take Maria Callas any day. She has a better voice and beautiful looking as well. She certainly knew what she was singing about. I don't understand why Renata Tebaldi is admired by so many people and I don't think someday I will change my mind on Tebaldi. But Tebaldi-worshippers can't even construct a legitimate and objective argument about why she is better than Callas.
A me personalmente la voce della Tebaldi mi piace di più, ma trovo che in questo pezzo la Callas vocalmente e interpretivamente è molto più adatta. Comunque sono tutte due uniche e divine nella loro così differente maniera.
Neither singer was the definitive Carmen, but Callas was infinitely better than Tebaldi. Callas had emotion, fire, and sang from her heart. Tebaldi is too reserved and nearly emotionless.
Callas screamed, spread, wobbled all the time. I heard her Live constantly on WQXR's Live at the Met. I love her anyhow. Such an actress! And so intelligent. But de los Angeles & Berganza were the best Carmen(s).
Hai sentito anche la sua rivale Tebaldi? Forse la sua voce è più bella, ma meno estesa con un solo colore; mentre la voce della Callas aveva tre colori ed un'estensione incredibile. Poi, scenicamente metteva tutti in ombra, tranne Del Monaco. Erano due galli nel pollaio. Una sera alla Scala di Milano Di Stefano le fece lo sgambetto tanto da farla cadere in scena. Me l'ha riferito la sorella del tenore Gianni Raimondi, mia ex collega d'ufficio. In quanto a santa, non esagerare! E' tornata troppo presto fra gli dei dell'Olimpo.
Habanera dalla Carmen di Bizet. La prima è cantata dalla Callas, la seconda, come paragone, dalla Tebaldi. La parte di Carmen nel libretto originale è per un mezzosoprano. Ma anche loro se la sono cavata egregiamente. Ciao Marisa.
I have been in this discussion for a lifetime I chose the ice princess . I heard both at the OLD MET with it's incredible sound ringing back at you. TEBALDI ( not in this role) or Girl of the Golden West ( The hugely underrated Dorothy Kirsten wins my heart) but otherwise Puccini or Verdi = Tebaldi
La Tebaldi y su graaaan sensualidad... 😍 Su voz es carnosa y más apta para Carmen, llega a parecer de Mezzosoprano, Callas era una Dramático Coloratura de voz metálica, Tebaldi una Spinto de voz pura y hermosa... ❤️ Además la comparación es RIDÍCULA, Callas es una Dramático Coloratura y Tebaldi una Spinto de voz más pura y centrista, Callas abarcaba 3 octavas pero de colores desiguales a diferencia de Renata que la voz en el grave tenía el mismo color que en el agudo, además en proporciones reales la voz de Tebaldi era más grande (eso se nota en las grabaciones de La Scala de Milán donde ambas cantaron infinidad de Óperas).
How right you are! Beautifully said! There is no comparison. To paraphrase the great soprano Geraldine Farrar..."When comparing singers, there is one you must put off to the side and then you may begin"...that is Maria Callas. All others pale before her magnificence. Singer, Actress, complete Artist. EMI was right when they promo'd her Carmen with...Callas is Carmen...and Tosca...and Lucia...and Norma...and Violetta...and... et al.
@@gailgottlieb514 Callas and Ponselle never met in real life ,this info is in the Ponselle bio .Incredible to what lengths some people go just to bring the name of their fav in a comment . Or have you arrived at the point where you believe your own fabrications? You are already answering your own questions ... and unrelated questions at that.
La Callas canta benissimo ma la sua interpretazione è più dolce che provocante. Della Tebaldi si ammira la bellezza vocale e note basse da autentico contralto. Per mio gusto nessuna delle due è la gita a provocante e seduttrice di Bizet
Personally Renata has a heavier tone and thats what I love about it also if you put headphones on and listen to the chorus and orchestration on her version its magnificent I love the Italian lyrics as well Callas has a lighter tone and carries it wonderfully however I like the Habaneras with chorus more than the ones with just the orchestra the chorus adds to the drama and the suspense of the song especially during the belts but when there is a chorus you can't fully hear the voice of the singer (pick your poison) both are great but I love Renatas more than I do Callas. A lot of modern opera singers can't belt louder than the chorus during this song (These two demonstrate how this song is supposed to be sung) they need proper breath support to push from there diaphragm, control over there vibrato and to In my opinion (crescendo slowly and carefully) and a passion to really knock it out of the park. This shows how much we've lost Opera is a dying art form please share Opera with those who may not know it and spread the word of Opera.
Callas more often sings like she really is the character & really means it....which makes her great, at times.... Tebaldi, for me, a greater overall singer.
Que deicision tan mas dificil Dios nos pone a prueba de cual de los Dos Angeles es el Mejor; Oro contra Platino; Perlas contra Rubies....Champagne Vs Cognac
Callas for Carmen and Traviata, but for all Puccini's Tebaldi, Callas was a very fierce woman, she could play better those kind of roles, Tebaldi was much more sweet, like all the Puccini women.. :)
Tebaldi did not sing this in French and that was a loss. Her voice is different, softer, also less appropriate for this role, a defiant and bold woman. But, for example in Madame Butterfly things are reversed, Renata is the one there. Basically, each one has a voice profile that is better suited for different pieces and it is a loss for anyone that compares them and opts for either one. Everybody should listen to both and elect their on favorite piece for each of these magnificent singers.
@@EmilyGloeggler7984 And I disagree with your disagreement .And now can we stop this kindergarten? Nobody cares about your disagreement ,girl. Or mine.
Callas odiava il personaggio di Carmen, lo disse a più riprese. Poi Glotz la convinse a registrarla, il risultato fu nel complesso buono. Ma né Maria né ancor meno Renata sono aderenti alla psicologia del personaggio....
And not to mention the vast differences in repertoire that are out there. Both Tebaldi and Callas did Wagner, for instance, Callas to much greater acclaim early in her career. But did either of them match Flagstad or Nilsson in their heyday in that repertoire? How about the likes of Waltraud Meier and Nina Stemme right now? I think they've been more than adequately "replaced."
Well now you have opened the door to another discussion Flagstad, Nilsson we are talking an entirely different repertoire you are "putting a Ring on it"
Voce angelica e omogenea come poche quella della Tebaldi con una timbratura più unica che rara,lucente e levigata ma forse la Callas è più"Carmen".. più briosa, più sensuale.. comunque due leggende sopranili,due dee aldilà dei gusti personali.
This is an odd thing to say, especially on this video, since Callas most definitely did not even perform this role on stage; I'm not sure if Tebaldi did or not. But in any case this deification of singers from the recent past in order to disparage contemporary ones is just bizarre, and not really respectful of art in my opinion.
What are you talking about? Neither of these ladies were contemporaneous to this era. Besides, people compare the old with new constantly; always have, and always will. Get over yourself.
0:1 - Ренаточка побивает.. Недаром Мария бросала со стола все причандалы, когда ей грозили : Вот приедет Тебальди, поставит тебя на место!.. Но люблю обеих!
