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Called Safe at Home - What do you think? 

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bang bang play, but looked out. No-one is perfect and not calling out blue. But what do you all think? Safe or Out?

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@user-yl1rz4co5s
@user-yl1rz4co5s 4 месяца назад
The umpire was in the correct position until he waddled to the wrong position and missed the call.
@stevenbrown5210
@stevenbrown5210 5 месяцев назад
He was tagged out on the arm a full FOOT away from home plate
@charleynewman4783
@charleynewman4783 Месяц назад
Yeah definitely out
@billelston677
@billelston677 9 месяцев назад
That is a very difficult call but the umpire made it harder by being out of position. He could not see whether the tag was made or missed so he guessed and made the wrong call. I’m an old umpire.
@mattmoehring8021
@mattmoehring8021 7 месяцев назад
Good Hustle to the wrong position
@toddlestermedia
@toddlestermedia 5 месяцев назад
100% - call was made because he was out of position
@raymondistenes1604
@raymondistenes1604 4 месяца назад
He also needs to shed the mask.
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque 4 месяца назад
Exactly my thoughts. All of you, billelston677, mattmoehring8021, toddlestermedia, and raymondistenes1604 are absolutely right on the money!
@JoeR-tv6nh
@JoeR-tv6nh 3 месяца назад
Me too. The other problem call s that so many people think the tie goes to the runner. You have to beat the throw.
@Grief_Weasel
@Grief_Weasel 5 месяцев назад
The catchers glove moves up as it makes contact with the runners upper arm and shoulder and he was out.
@JoeR-tv6nh
@JoeR-tv6nh 3 месяца назад
I agree. The ump didn't have good enough position to see the arm tag.
@charleynewman4783
@charleynewman4783 Месяц назад
Yeah definitely out
@victoriachambers5947
@victoriachambers5947 10 дней назад
OUT BY A MILE
@terrye3
@terrye3 Месяц назад
It looked like the catcher tagged the base runner on the arm before getting to the plate. I’d say the runner was out.
@brucek66
@brucek66 3 месяца назад
SAFE Haha, umpire missed it - happens. Wasn't in the best position but he's out there, so of course I support him
@samoafa841
@samoafa841 6 месяцев назад
Blue’s sight line was blocked by the catcher. Clearly the runner was tagged out. Blue called what he saw which obviously was wrong. No fault to him. He couldn’t see the tag from his vantage point. Without replay, play stands. Runner safe at the plate. It’s a tough call especially since the defense made a great play getting the ball in from right field to the cutoff. Who threw a perfectly placed ball right at tag height to the catchers glove. Who having moved into position. Only had to move his glove mere inches for the tag and boom… Nailed ‘em! Sadly that’s not what the scorecard read. That’s why these videos are important. Everyone can learn something. The kids in the field know that they worked and put together a dang near perfect put out at home. Even blue could see that going up the first base line was improper with a runner on 3rd. He actually runs in front of the catcher turning his back on the play and nearly interfering with the cut off throw to home! He ending up the first base line behind catch looking up the third base line at the runner. Where he should read the play at hand, followed the ball and dropped back to the third base side of the plate as the play was coming in from right and to be in position to see both runner and glove. You want to see the ball hit the glove and head on is best. Like when he’s calling balls and strikes. Who knows that? Not many. Blue didn’t. Now he does. Thanks to you..keep videoing. Catching screw ups is but one of many lessons that can be learned from game tape. The farther a player goes obviously the more video comes into play.
@reddingmoore6356
@reddingmoore6356 4 месяца назад
The umpire was completely out of position to make a correct call..
@wayneramsay-dp1qx
@wayneramsay-dp1qx Месяц назад
Bro the umpire is blind he was safe by a mile 😂
@chuckjones2368
@chuckjones2368 2 месяца назад
angels show importance om this call..
@1tfgfan962
@1tfgfan962 Месяц назад
Out-He was tagged in the arm before his hand touched home. The umpire could’ve seen the call if he was directly behind the catcher.
@baseballsux2
@baseballsux2 7 месяцев назад
The call wasn’t close. I could say, “he was out by a mile”. But, to be more accurate, he was out by nearly a whole foot. Certainly by six inches at least (meaning the runner’s hand was at least six inches from home plate when the defender applied the tag). Clearly, the runner was out. That said, as an umpire myself, I feel qualified to say, the position this umpire elected to take, in this particular situation, lends itself to errors. Notice the umpire has placed himself in a position in which the defender’s body obstructs the clear line of sight in regard to the action taking place. The umpire would be in a much better position if s/he had taken up his/her stance in foul territory on the third base side of home plate. S/he had plenty of time to attain this positioning, but elected to assume an inferior position. Furthermore, positioning that I suggest would also allow the umpire to maintain observation of the field of play with her/his peripheral sight. All around, I give this umpire a D- grade on this particular play. Perhaps he (or she) is a good umpire overall, but s/he could/should use this play to improve in the future. No disrespect intended. I have blown calls myself before; good umpires (and wise people, in general) learn from their mistakes without allowing their egos to override such growth. Finally, this video could be used in training to train other umpires what not to do in similar situations.
@Goomba1985
@Goomba1985 6 месяцев назад
Based on this camera angle, I don’t think it’s conclusive. The glove could be a few inches away from the forearm, and we couldn’t tell from the camera angle alone.
@Catmeaner
@Catmeaner 5 месяцев назад
Ump blew that call
@nitramsonjack4741
@nitramsonjack4741 5 месяцев назад
He was out!!! Ref was in the wrong position, so he got the call wrong.
@Tomc8030
@Tomc8030 Месяц назад
Hump put his self in a bad spot to make the call and called what he seen.
@robertminor3967
@robertminor3967 3 месяца назад
Definitely out. Good tag.
@mmcgahn5948
@mmcgahn5948 2 месяца назад
The question is, what do you think…..there’s a shortage of people who are willing to put up with whacko parents for a few dollars. Besides heckling them during games, keep harassing them by posting their calls on RU-vid and the number of people willing to umpire will get even less.
@JohnnyD69FG
@JohnnyD69FG Месяц назад
Angel Hernandez strikes again. 😂
@tomray4139
@tomray4139 4 месяца назад
Got him on the arm, so he was out.
@johnzywko5885
@johnzywko5885 2 месяца назад
Arm obviously was tagged..definitely a protest game
@edprince9079
@edprince9079 5 месяцев назад
Crosseyed ump. Or the runner was a family member, or kid of a friend.
@cloudwatcher724
@cloudwatcher724 4 месяца назад
why would plate umpire EVER run IN FRONT of the catcher, make that big-ass loop into fair territory, and then STAY behind the catcher (which is ALWAYS the worst vantage point)?? at 0:04, the simple decision to retreat back to third-baseline-extended would have made the play easier to call and, just as importantly, looked a whole lot better. good decisions lead to better positioning and better calls.
@mickeyjohn2442
@mickeyjohn2442 7 месяцев назад
Out...tagged on the forearm.
@davesharpe8923
@davesharpe8923 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, this is what you get when you only pay for 1 umpire. He started going up the 1b line for possible play @1, which put him in a spot totally out of position to make that call at home. Cant call an out if you cannot see it. Good job blue!
@scottmcshannon6821
@scottmcshannon6821 4 месяца назад
why did the ump hesitate? did not make his call any more believable.
@curtismatsune3147
@curtismatsune3147 4 месяца назад
What video did you watch? The tag was clearly visible from that angle or pretty much every angle except directly in back of the runner or directly in front of the catcher where their bodies might have blocked the view of the tag.
@davesharpe8923
@davesharpe8923 4 месяца назад
@@curtismatsune3147 LOL....stop the video on the 10sec mark. Ump is a few feet up the 1b line, catcher directly in front and blocking his clear view, ump is leaning to get a view of the tag he missed. It appears he is the only ump on the field. If he was in that same spot (way out of position) with a partner he'd deserve some crap for the missed call.
@curtismatsune3147
@curtismatsune3147 4 месяца назад
@@davesharpe8923 See an optometrist, stat.
@kevinstogner9477
@kevinstogner9477 4 месяца назад
Back to Umpire School !! Horrible position to make that call. At 10 Seconds, he's clearly out.
@Real_Eagle15
@Real_Eagle15 15 дней назад
HES OUT!
@charliegarnett9757
@charliegarnett9757 5 месяцев назад
I think you should never argue a call when you have ONE umpire. He had a ball put in play and multiple runners and there are several places the throw could have gone. You want a better look…hire more umpires.
@stevegabbert9626
@stevegabbert9626 3 месяца назад
Whatever the ump called. He's got a better view than I do.
@victoriachambers5947
@victoriachambers5947 2 месяца назад
He was out by a mile
@pedrorivera4564
@pedrorivera4564 5 месяцев назад
I think he was out but it was close.
@Jonahorr6678
@Jonahorr6678 Месяц назад
he was out by a mile
@daviddunn773
@daviddunn773 4 месяца назад
Out ..............
@markanderson6654
@markanderson6654 16 дней назад
Take your mask off, position should be 1st or 3rd base extended depending on which ump school you went to. Runner was out. But thanks for umpiring as there is a shortage in umps nationwide.
@bababooey5195
@bababooey5195 9 месяцев назад
Lazy Umpire never took his mask off
@charleynewman4783
@charleynewman4783 Месяц назад
Exactly
@toddlestermedia
@toddlestermedia 5 месяцев назад
Out - the Catcher hit his hand right before he slid into home plate.
@kevinstogner9477
@kevinstogner9477 4 месяца назад
That would be the players left hand.
@Kiddman32
@Kiddman32 4 месяца назад
@@kevinstogner9477 toddlersmedia didn't say "left hand". He/she said "right before".
@akaredcrossbow
@akaredcrossbow Месяц назад
🗣️OUT!
@jatnieltorresrivera749
@jatnieltorresrivera749 2 месяца назад
He was out being a baseball player he has tagged from 1 feet until the umpire went into the wrong position making look like safe the coach argument was necessary and the Cather was angry it was definitely out hopefully they didn’t throw out the coach or no one thank you for understanding.
@Spencermonkeyvr
@Spencermonkeyvr Месяц назад
He is so out did that umpire take lessons
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 4 месяца назад
Why would the umpire hurry up and run to get BEHIND the catcher? Lmao
@heyblue3251
@heyblue3251 18 дней назад
He was out but real life doesn't have slow motion :)
@stevenlengua4179
@stevenlengua4179 8 дней назад
Great point! Made the best call in his judgement and of course that's perfectly fine. Thanks for the feedback.
@peterschneider6383
@peterschneider6383 4 месяца назад
Even if his view of the tag itself was obscured by the catcher’s body he still should have called out. If the fielder has his glove in front of the base before the runner arrives, the correct call is out unless the umpire is certain the runner was able to avoid the tag attempt. No one was expecting a safe call in this case, there was no reason to call safe.
@tomlawler5850
@tomlawler5850 4 месяца назад
Catcher needs to learn to keep his helmet/mask on when there’s a play at the plate.
@francoisdubois80
@francoisdubois80 4 месяца назад
Ump was out of position and his view of the tag was obscured. Clearly an out.
@ironhorse127
@ironhorse127 Месяц назад
Absolutely OUT
@larrytowe6672
@larrytowe6672 10 месяцев назад
To me he's clearly out, you definitely can see the tag on the forearm.
@Goomba1985
@Goomba1985 6 месяцев назад
I don’t think you could say “definitely” based on this camera angle. From this camera angle, the glove could be 6 inches away from the forearm.
@davidthecoolkid7819
@davidthecoolkid7819 Месяц назад
Umpire moved so he made the wrong call. I understand why the coach was mad
@brucebangeman8627
@brucebangeman8627 4 месяца назад
Catcher tagged runners hand before runner touched home plate, and yes, the ump should have stayed by back of plate for accurate call.
@nathangarciamuro
@nathangarciamuro Год назад
It is tough to say from the camera angle but it looks out. This is an appreciation call of the umpire and no matter what he determines, one team will be pleased and the other mad. However what I am amazed is that the umpire in any moment of the play takes his face mask off, he needs to attend some umpire training camp to know that the face mask must be off to see the play clearly.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 Год назад
I commented on the mask in my initial response. Your comment is a myth. It is proper mechanics to remove the mask. But I will tell you that as a person who wears it, I can see everything just as good with it on. Yes, he should be removing his mask. It takes away the misconception that he couldn’t see the play. Catcher definitely attempts a tag attempt and does look possible he could have got it. But if I watched this in a replay booth the call would stand either way it was originally called. Just not conclusive.
@stephenherring
@stephenherring 9 месяцев назад
Also, once the ball is put put in play, the mask should come off.
@Goomba1985
@Goomba1985 6 месяцев назад
@@baseballumpires6901 I agree with you. Based on this camera angle alone, it’s not conclusive.
@kevinstogner9477
@kevinstogner9477 4 месяца назад
Stop the video at 10 Seconds.
@nathangarciamuro
@nathangarciamuro 4 месяца назад
@@kevinstogner9477 to see what, if he is safe or out? That is not the purpose of my comment. I am an umpire and I will not criticize another ump call, specially if it is safe or out. What I can do and must do is to point out the mechanics because if we improve the mechanics we become better umps and make fewer mistakes; I expect other ump to do the same with me. Again, The ump doesn’t take his mask off at any time which impedes him to have a good field of vision and he could get a different angle of approach to get a better angle of vision.
@CS-zz6hp
@CS-zz6hp 9 месяцев назад
He was out.
@carpballet
@carpballet 7 месяцев назад
I think that really terrible MLB ump was moved down to this league.
@J_R406
@J_R406 5 дней назад
Safe. He missed the tag.
@LazerXr
@LazerXr Месяц назад
he was so out
@mikeleo5990
@mikeleo5990 4 месяца назад
Out - every time I watch it
@cmsilver8906
@cmsilver8906 4 месяца назад
Just one of thousands of videos showing how terrible umpires are at their job, I'm sure this ump stuck by it too
@sidjbel
@sidjbel 3 месяца назад
It looked like the catcher touched the arm of the runner before the runner touched the home plate.
@KJVAV1611
@KJVAV1611 8 месяцев назад
Out
@jamiemcfall2523
@jamiemcfall2523 3 месяца назад
safe!
@tjones5719
@tjones5719 4 месяца назад
I believe he made the tag but the catcher in my opinion screwed up. He continued reaching for the tag even after it was applied, this would give an ump the perceived “admission” that the catcher never found the tag. Often an ump will go off of reactions if they truly didn’t see the play.
@critter2
@critter2 3 месяца назад
Umpire needs to take the damn mask off
@TheFredman08
@TheFredman08 4 месяца назад
Need another angle to see if the catcher made contact at the initial 10 second mark. At the 0:10 mark, it appears the catcher tagged the runner; however, the catcher looks to continue to reach the runner's left arm with the tag and there is a slight gap between the glove and arm after that. The umpire is in the proper position to see if there was contact or not. The video doesn't show that axis of view and the only person in the position to see correctly is the ump.
@rogerhart1835
@rogerhart1835 Месяц назад
Clearly out
@williamcavanagh8982
@williamcavanagh8982 12 дней назад
You're OUT!!!
@johnrutka8658
@johnrutka8658 6 месяцев назад
If the ump had the same line of sight that we did he may very well have made a different call. Since he didn't due to the fact that the play at the plate wasn't the only call he had to make on the field he used his judgement. Can't fault him for that.
@KevinBakin47
@KevinBakin47 4 месяца назад
exactly! But you can fault the coach, this isn't a time to argue a call, the kids we're all mad from a bang bang play and he is just reinforcing putting blame on the ump. This is why myself and so many others have quit umpiring kids games
@johnrutka8658
@johnrutka8658 4 месяца назад
@@KevinBakin47 - It's always a shame whenever the coach and/or the parents take the game too seriously. The way they act you'd think this was the world series. That behavior just ruins things for the kids and frustrates the umpires (of which you obviously have first hand knowledge) and takes the fun out of the game. 😢
@d.owczarzak6888
@d.owczarzak6888 5 месяцев назад
Looked out to me.
@mase7557
@mase7557 3 месяца назад
OUT!
@Kiguy9
@Kiguy9 Месяц назад
Way out easy call
@Draper1217
@Draper1217 3 месяца назад
Out of position. The ump can’t see through the catcher
@jaydenmorrison8666
@jaydenmorrison8666 4 месяца назад
it is out but cuz it being a bang bang play i can see y he messed up, 3 things didnt help. 1. his stance 2. his position and 3. he kept his mask on
@rodney5360
@rodney5360 4 месяца назад
OUT, NO DOUBT
@TxChristopher
@TxChristopher Месяц назад
Out.
@brent3461
@brent3461 4 месяца назад
I think the video angle is inconclusive. Umpire had the best angle and could see if contact was actually made.There's nothing in this video that would prove the umpire was wrong.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 Год назад
So on this video nothing shows a blown call. You can’t see if the catchers mitt with ball in it touches the runner or not. If I were doing replay the review would be that the play would stand as called. Despite being in the wrong position, the umpire is actually in a good position to see tag or no tag. Or at least a better position than the camera provides. With that said. You have a single umpire working this game. Most likely due to the National Umpire Shortage. Pretty clear he judged a play was going to happen at first as you see him start to move up the line on the fair side then come back on the foul side when he judged the play was coming home. In a one person game this was a bad move. He should have stayed in first base extended then moved to 3rd base extended when he saw the play come home. He would have ended up looking straight up the 3rd baseline for an even better view than at an angle. He did a poor job here but considering he is working alone sometimes you get knuckled up. No different than a SS who gets caught leaning one way and the hit goes the other way. No question he should get the mask off from the crack of the bat. That is the proper mechanic. But he is wearing the hockey style mask, I wear the same style mask. You would be surprised that with the mask on you can see everything still. Yes, proper mechanic is remove the mask. Not making an argument against. Just pointing out that the average spectator has no clue what the actual visibility is like with the mask on. At any rate. If you are going to title a video as a blown call, make sure you can actually show a conclusive bad call. Otherwise it is just a controversial call. Which is basically one side sees it one way, the other side sees it the other way. Sides watch the games with their hearts. Then you have the 3rd side which is how the umpire sees it. No, not every call is right. There are calls made wrong for a variety of circumstances. But more often than not the call is correct.
@Evan_ishim
@Evan_ishim Месяц назад
I slowed it down its and out by a whole 10 yards 0:11
@Mdstyzak65
@Mdstyzak65 4 месяца назад
Umpire is out of position, but it looks like he’s by himself. Tough to get in right spot when you’ve got 3 runners plus follow the ball to determine where play is going.
@henry9625
@henry9625 5 месяцев назад
Definitely out
@ronaldroberts4058
@ronaldroberts4058 4 месяца назад
Bad movement and positioning by the ump. But it is his call to make. Out.
@alexanderdias6633
@alexanderdias6633 2 месяца назад
Out by a mile
@beegee8709
@beegee8709 4 месяца назад
OUT
@eddiedenver675
@eddiedenver675 5 месяцев назад
Need Video review challenge 😅😅
@stevenlengua4179
@stevenlengua4179 5 месяцев назад
Love this response!!! And you're right!
@tommo9942
@tommo9942 4 месяца назад
ump in terrible position to make this call.
@stanleyprice6763
@stanleyprice6763 4 месяца назад
Human error is inherent in sports 0:24
@stevenlengua4179
@stevenlengua4179 9 месяцев назад
I posted this a while back and really just for the team parents who wanted to see the calls that we thought went against us. Didn't post it to call someone out or belittle anyone. Obviously winning / losing, or calls going against us doesn't cost us a million bucks. It's just a game and in the end fun our boys and families. Since I record the games, and parents at times want to see replays, I like practicing my editing skills. Didn't really mean for all this to go this public but i do appreciate the feedback. I'll change the title to something that opens this up to discussion / opinion vs saying this call was blown. 👍👍
@toddlestermedia
@toddlestermedia 5 месяцев назад
I wouldn't worry about it. I used to umpire and had my fair share of good and bad calls. There are plenty of "you make the calls" on my channel. Like I say, missed my fair share - umps are human.
@billelston677
@billelston677 6 месяцев назад
He was out!
@normiewoo787
@normiewoo787 4 месяца назад
The umpire was out of position and should have taken off his mask. By not doing so, not only does he make it more difficult to see the play, he also makes himself look like he doesn't know what he's doing.
@chuckjones2368
@chuckjones2368 4 месяца назад
get the angle call should be out.
@dcouwlier
@dcouwlier 7 месяцев назад
For those sayings inconclusive. Watch his arm drag the catchers mitt down before he even starts his slide. Clearly out
@Goomba1985
@Goomba1985 6 месяцев назад
How could his arm drag the catchers mitt down when the catchers mitt is behind his arm?
@jackhemingway1405
@jackhemingway1405 6 месяцев назад
That was such a clear out. It was in 4k
@mmcgahn5948
@mmcgahn5948 4 месяца назад
What do I think? It’s a youth baseball game, who cares?
@td6647
@td6647 Месяц назад
Considering the fact that almost everybody in the stands has a camera, I think the Umpire should be looking at a replay.🙈
@stevecobb9230
@stevecobb9230 9 месяцев назад
I’m not sure of the purpose of these videos. Is it to subject the rare person who still wants to umpire or referee children’s games for gas money to ridicule? If so, you’re doing a great job of making the field even smaller.
@mptr1783
@mptr1783 9 месяцев назад
well said......obviously only 1 umpire in this game so he gets caught out of position because he had to worry about a possible play at 1st base.......
@benoitforget2497
@benoitforget2497 4 месяца назад
Out? Safe? I think anyone posting videos of kids baseball referees should quit their job, volunteer to umpire and get a life!
@HankC9174
@HankC9174 4 месяца назад
the umpire had a good view
@midnyte_tv
@midnyte_tv 4 месяца назад
Looks like he got under the tag
@frankburns3675
@frankburns3675 9 месяцев назад
Having been the Blue .... Safe
@scout805
@scout805 9 месяцев назад
Tagged on the arm before he touched the plate is what i saw.
@Solitude47152
@Solitude47152 2 месяца назад
He was safe
@bobwhite2
@bobwhite2 10 месяцев назад
Looked safe
@andrewdamiani7125
@andrewdamiani7125 5 месяцев назад
Safe
@billrobertson5895
@billrobertson5895 5 месяцев назад
Big deal the ump missed the call.
@jeffwright8130
@jeffwright8130 4 месяца назад
And take off your mask
@LeoTakuVT
@LeoTakuVT 4 месяца назад
From this angle, it very clearly looks like he made a good tag on their left arm but who knows, maybe from the umps angle, he missed.
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