CALLING OUT DANNY at GR RESEARCH 

Hey Dave, Nice to meet you (via RU-vid) and thanks for watching. I liked your video and feedback. Let me just clarify a few things. Regarding sending our product our for review. We have had our product reviewed by every magazine out there online and in print, and we've won awards from all of them. So I have never had any issue with sending out our products. I also have no issue with a reviewer selling gear after a review of they disclose that they have made arrangements to keep the gear in exchange for the review. Some are doing that and some are not disclosing that. My recommendation to them is that doing that will hurt their credibility. If they are being paid for the review they are seen more as a paid advertiser than a reviewer. I am also not buying reviews. Doing that doesn't look good for the manufacturer either. The invitation to come was not to review our gear in our place only. We even said they could bring their own gear. It is just to come, listen, and learn. No reviews are required or asked for. My contention isn't that just our gear should be reviewed with quality gear and a dedicated or optimized room. My contention is the same for ALL gear being reviewed. Sure everyone is blown away from our system, but one of the things they leave with (every time) is a desire and motivation to step up their room, their speaker placement, and gear. I want to make their systems better whether they use our gear or not. And when you do pass through my way, let me know. You'd be welcome to visit.

Dave, you displayed an awareness of yourself in a humble tone that was refreshing. At the same time, you challenged Danny's disconnect between listening in a dedicated, treated room and then listening, (if you are fortunate to have a dedicated room), in your space at home. You did this and then more importantly you ended your video in a show of unity which supports Danny's primary aim . Exceptionally well done, you are a prince of a man.

I love your videos. It seems to me that you give honest personal reviews and that is more important than high production value. And the fact that not all of your content is new and the next great thing. I rarely buy new so I like that. Keep up the good work.

I truly enjoy your down to earth video reviews. You are my favorite audio reviewer.

Hey Dave.!!! First and I always do this with people I enjoy their work. I say thank you!!!! Thanks buddy I really enjoy all of your work. You have a bit of humbleness and humanity, the kind of humanity that I miss. I find you a breath of fresh air and open-mindedness. I subscribe to pretty much almost anyone I can think of as far as audio even languages I don't speak. You can actually tell a lot without even knowing someone's language. Please keep up the great work and thank you I so appreciate it!!! Please take care of your health and your family BigErik

Nice job Dave... Very eloquently put! I saw Danny's video yesterday and was curious about reactions in the community. Big fan of.your channel and reaching out to let you know how much I've been enjoying the content, especially the videos on vintage gear. I recently acquired a sweet Dual 1229 tt (for free!) which Ive been absolutely loving. I remember you mentioning you lived in NJ. Whereabouts? Keep up the good work Dave.

Don’t worry Dave, production quality never really bothered me cos I tend to listen more than watch videos about audio equipment while going about the daily chores. I grew up in the generation where live sports events were covered on the radio. And I do kind of miss those days. The old Telefunken Opus valve radio may be long gone, but some of the commentary styles are ingrained in my old but still appreciative memories of those days.

Hi Dave. I enjoy your channel. I just ready Danny's reply. This exchange is a good example why we need to speak to each other more than we communicate through social media as social medial communication can create much miscommunication. I believe Danny and you will have a great face to face chat when you finally get to meet. Cheers! George

well said! love your channel, and greetings from Canada...humility goes a long long way on our social media platforms

This is one of the better response videos on this topic, well done. Room acoustics are important, but they are one of many factors, and part of the process of evaluating what equipment to buy is understanding your space, it’s strengths and limitations, and what can work in that space. Some gear is more flexible, some gear is very picky about room and placement, and good reviewers point this out. Most of us work around the spaces we have, and yet still tweak their systems because hifi has to live alongside us. If one speaker can improve a system in one particular environment, where the other speaker needs a ton of acoustic treatment and correction to make an improvement in the same system, I would think consumers would like to know that.

After watching this video , Im a new follower of your channel ,thank you for the clarity ,honesty and down to earth view of the reviewing art, so now on you have a new fan and follower....

Well spoken. You are a gentleman and that is why I look forward to your postings.

Great video! I think Danny and his strong personality is great! Having GR Reserch help me modify my speakers was the most fun I have had in audio. And the results were well worth the efforts and cost. I look forward to doing it again in the future. There is something about knowing your speakers are better than stock and at there best. I think Danny does have allot of knowledge to share and hope that some RU-vid ers take him up on his offer. I think it would make some fantastic content. 👍🏻🔈

My god, what an amazingly mature and professional video, many need to watch and learn from your soft skills.

I just subscribed to this Chanel based on this video.. what a great comeback for ordinary reviewers and Hi Fi enthusiasts..

Danny wants to not only fix speakers but to fix reviewers.

Definitely an interesting take and I agree 100%! It’s honestly a great experience getting to hear different speakers and the differences between them. A lot of people forget there’s passion involved. As far as for reviewers reviewing the speakers in untreated or lightly treated listening spaces, that’s how most people have their rooms and very few actually have a perfect room with zero nulls or reflection issues and imo reviewing a speaker in a more neutral room brings the speakers close to the buyer. And Honestly the “Upgrades” Danny sells, completely changes the sound signature of the speakers taking away what makes each speaker special and it’s like a slap in the face to the designer when you change the sound signature that significantly, No hard feelings towards anyone but I like my speakers to have their differences. Just my two cents, Happy listening and great video! ✅🍿

How are you going to approach the tech aspects of building a better room. Any details? Please no generalities - just plans based on science and materials. Thanks

Who is your favorite reviewer and why? I think mine is Sean. A big part of that is that he puts the product into perspective. If you like bright forward sound you are going to like this piece, if you value a wide and deep sound stage, this is probably not your first choice. Also not pretentious, and low key. Also great product selections. At first, thought cheapaudioman was a joke but have come to respect him. Also great selection of products.

Love this video. You had me cracking up. You got yourself a new subscriber.

Dave, what happened with the 4 or 5 monster vintage amplifiers from the end of the receiver wars you found on a garage that belonged to an old lady neighbor of you?

Hey Dave! Congrats! you are about to hit 10k subscribers!

Have you purchased one of his upgrade kits and beefed up a pair of your speakers?

Dave, you are truly a unique and refreshingly down home yet eloquent and knowledgeable presence on YT, and I LOVE your channel. Please don't change too much and become too much like all the others, because your channel is very enjoyable and different enough to stand out for the very reasons I mentioned.

This was a great response to Danny. As much as Ron and Danny tried to convey it wasn't an attack - the arrogance in that room was deafening. Everything you stated was exactly what I was thinking throughout that video.

None of my friends who love stereo have any sound treatment other than the furniture in the room. I bet you the majority of the people who are into stereo listen to their hifi the way i do. Good designers and reviewers should design and review with untreated rooms in mind. Love your response to Danny

Low production but full of heart. Great video, and I agree most people not just your viewers but also Danny's customers won't have ideal dedicated listening rooms.

Completely agree. What I most like about your speech is your honesty and humbleness. Kepp it up!

Very well said! You hit on a lot of points that I was thinking as he was saying them! What good is a high end system in a mediocre room? I for one cannot afford such a room, nor do i have the room! I have however acquired some fantastic vintage gear over the years and have had many people say that it is the best sound they ever heard! I have long thought that Danny, while seemingly a good guy, has always tried to get all of us square pegs to fit into the round holes that he preaches are the only correct ones. I too would love to hear a set of his speakers, but i suspect i would be disappointed, because i don't subscribe to a flat sound. I prefer lively yet warm, so color my speakers audio Gods!!

Dave, I like your style, a Man's Man. And Danny's reply was very gentlemanly. I have no horse in this race, or dog in this fight, I enjoy watching all of you guys. I think I can speak for at least a few, we are adults and can make decisions based on both the reviewers opinions and Danny's know how in regards to speakers and measurements. I can see both sides of this coin, and realize too, that some speaker manufactures don't go by measurements alone. That being said, this was an enjoyable video or rebuttal, it was good, and I subscribed. Thank you sir. ;-)

The most off putting thing about, Danny's content is that all according to him, all speaker designers get it wrong all of the time. They must sure be a dumb bunch!

I find it far more effective and fun to use a graphic equalizer to remedy my speaker issues. Not enough at 1500 herz give it a nudge up. To bright at the top bump it down a touch. My speakers don't need a flat response in your lab. I prefer my flavor of distortion over his.

Well said ! Made me a new sub of your channel ✊🏽

I haven't watched his video YET, but I did watch The Vinyl Attack talk about this same video. I like most people probably can't afford high end equipment so I do the best I can with what I have or can even begin to afford. I watch a lot of reviews here on YT or read online reviews and try to make educated decisions or guesses on what to buy. Honesty always wins!

I think this may be the first video of yours I have watched. I'll check out a few more. It's nice to have another Floridian audiophile. I'm in SE FL, what part of the state are you in?

There are RU-vid "Reviewers" and there are "Influencers".......The line gets blurred...

That guy Danny ..... Does he really know what goes into mass production of speakers, let me tell you all ....COST.... It's choice to buy any speaker and enjoy the sound of music . Let's see Danny make speakers for the masses instead of slating them .. You do the industry a disservice .. Top notch calling out ...

Very well said!!!

Botanical gardens are in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. About an hour1/2 east from Danny's.

Well said Mr. Cutter.

This is brilliant. Now I Have to watch the GR Research video. Great work Dave! 👏

I really like your content, having a mix of new and vintage I can relate. In general I like the quality and meaning of what is said or done way more then fancy production values. Some content is so perfect looking that it reminds me of barbie, all plastic and no heart or soul. Keep up the good work, it is appreciated 👍

Well said. Thank you!

As I am a subscriber to the both of you gentlemen's channels. I would facetiously summarize that Point to Point is the only way to go, eh? Good old Canadian audio humour and spelling. Have a great day boyz. Love from Canada.💞🎛

I could not agree more. You bring up great points.

Aloha Dave. This is the first time I’m seeing your channel. As a hifi and analog enthusiast/hobbyist I watch a smattering of hifi and vinyl review channels including many of the names you mentioned. I have not, however, heard of GReasearch before the recent kerfuffle of which this most righteous video addresses. As such I feel that it would be inappropriate of me to comment on their product(?). Obviously if they produce graphs they must know how to do that well at least. So I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to the fine people at the GRease Church, and I’ll take you at your word that they are as honest and forthright as you say they are. You have never steered me wrong before and I don’t see why you would be now. The one thing I will say about GRE Search is that whatever it is that they are or aren’t doing they should keep it up, After all if it weren’t for their recent “hot take” I wouldn’t have been introduced to your channel along with a rapier wit you wield so well. I think I’ll stick around a little longer and see if there is more I can learn from you about how GRrrrreat! Danny and the rest of the team at GYRoscopic tell us they are. I’ll look forward to your next video on this intriguing subject. In the meantime, do you mind if I peruse your back catalog while I wait? Sincerely, Tripp Moore

I like this guy. Subscribed!

I can kind of see both sides of the argument and in reality I think Danny called out the likes of Andrew Robinson for real, only he disguised it as compliment as not to cause a backlash among the butt hurt fan boys. I have seen videos of these top tier (only by RU-vid matrix) reviewers that are truly cringe-worthy when it comes to their technical and listening skills. So when I see the likes of Andrew showering a speaker model with praise and then subsequently I see Danny showing how bad they measure and how bad they are made, I tend to believe Danny to be honest. I can understand why he says "you are not ready". As a consequence I am enjoying these kinds of small channels like yours much more. A bit more rough at the edges but still much more honest and not just constantly chasing the latest craze that will blow over in just months, or shamelessly introducing the latest Pro-Ject turntable that was first made by Dual in the early 80's. And maybe you should just buy an upgrade kit from GR research for your KEF speakers. I think it will bring value to your channel and I am looking forward to see your experiences with that.

Good review Dave. About three years ago, based on Danny's sales pitch I bought the X-LS Encore's with all the upgrade options, caps, etc... After building the kit and pairing with my Marantz intergrated amp, I expected full rich lively audio. Instead what I got was a rather average, slightly muffled and choked sounding pair of loudspeakers. Moving the Encores to the side, I built my own open baffle full range speakers with my own modest crossover design. The sound for the open baffle speakers continues to amaze and I've since taken orders for several sets to listeners who, like me have found the experience "live like".

Dave - Didn't know you existed. Now you got me as a subscriber and regular watcher.

I stand with Danny.

Nice job, very well said! Excellent even keeled response to Danny’s video. Honestly, don’t understand why it triggered so many people. Was it the most diplomatically done opinion piece ever? No. Was it meant to denigrate certain people? I don’t think so. Danny seems like a good guy to me. He does make some very good points.

I agree with Danny and think that his remarks was actually an understatement of the industry. Of course he left out some small details. And yes I think that you also made some good points.

Wish we could all be simpatico. Each channel has something to offer - and viewers are not forced to watch either one. I've always been fascinated with speakers, how they are designed, measured, and the various trade-offs one encounters when building one. Danny's channel satisfies my curiosity along those lines. Your channel offers great insights into the world of vintage gear - which is also a strong interest of mine. We should try to get along. My view: Listening is the final arbiter. If you like what you hear, after break-in, and after extended listening sessions - does it really matter what anyone else thinks about your particular choice of audio gear? For instance, Danny did a video on the original B&W 705 - a speaker I very much enjoy. I can tell you honestly that I would never consider kicking them to the curb as junk. Is his criticism of the 705 valid? Probably - from his world-view. But do I still like the stock sound of them? Of course. Am I going to install his 705 upgrade kit? No. His criticism was noted in my mind, but changed nothing with respect to how I judge the speaker - which I do by listening to it. Simpatico.

I did see that video with Danny, he did say something to that effect but he did cite an example of what one reviewer did that irked him and it wasn't not having a perfect room but more of not even trying.

i thought you said "if that is true, how the f**k could anyone possibly measure up" and almost choked on my coffee.

Andrew Robinson did a review on a speaker and when it came time for Kristi's comment, she said at least CR Research hasn't told us what was wrong with the speaker. My coffee blew all over my screen!

I think lots of people missed the mark or what (I think) Danny was trying to say... the way I took it was him saying your baseline as a reviewer, even if your setup is in-home casual listening, should be the best and closest to ideal setup as possible. Anything short of that would be like an Algebra teacher grading a test that they only know 70% of the answers to.

That was slick, and I am glad you considered your wife's interests! It's all opinion as there is no absolute reference. Years ago (30+) a Brit hifi magazine would put together a system, get a preferential pricing scheme (some discount offer) and ask those who took up the offer to comment on the reviewers opinion. Some interesting results but it never really took off. But it had a sensible logic to it which may be a useful tool to give substance to all the reviews. Now, if every reviewer cobbled their own system together, according to budget groups, there would be a good basis for comparison when consumers rated the system. Also, swapping out a component would enable a less subjective assessment. Just some thoughts from the past.

Well said sir , just subscribed . 😊

I just subbed, dude. You speak like you have a PhD.

thoughtful video, dave. have you seen gene dellasala's response from audioholics? i think he handled it well. he's the guy that got into it over danny's claims about cables. it's sort of ridiculous to suggest that someone like gene "isn't ready." i think the two of them should visit each other's setup. gene is a hard science engineering type. his room and testing setup is at least as advanced as danny's. they have very different approaches and i've learned from both channels.

Very well done sir. The most thoughtful answer to this pseudo-controversy IMHO. Good news out of all this: I just discovered your channel so I'm going to check it out. As for Danny's video, let's just say he could use a self-awareness course or two and he'll be just fine!

I just really like listening to others talk about hifi. I actually feel super slick produced videos detract from what is the best part of these channels. Anybody with a cell phone can make youtube videos, ive even done it. For me its connecting with real everyday people who enjoy hifi. The majority of people in my life just arent into it. Actually nobody in my inner circle that i see daily could care less. RU-vid is where we are. Real people who share enthusiasm for a hobby that nobody cares about.

I agree 💯.Comes across that he was the first and last guy brains were given to

would be worth your time to make the trip to TX and hear for yourself what his upgrades do.

As ever, many things can be true at the same time. I think Danny is a very smart, capable speaker designer. I also feel he has these same qualities as a salesman. I watch his videos because I am interested in what is inside these pricey speakers, as I am amazed that a particle board box, $100 worth of drivers and a $30 crossover sells for $4,000. As for myself, as soon as a reviewer tells me that "this power cord will open up your soundstage and increase instrument separation audibly," or "these tube connectors make a real noticable difference," I'm out.

Newsflash: the early 1990s are over and gone, gone, gone, and so too are the multiple high-end stereo shops in every urban area across the nation. When I moved here to Memphis, TN. in 1991, there were no less than 3 dedicated high-end dealers in town, plus two smaller specialty shops. Today, not nary a one of these places is still in business. Internet shopping is the only viable option around here unless we make the 3 hour drive to Nashville to visit their ONE high end audio store. As it is, RU-vid reviewers such as yourself and the ones you mentioned are VITAL. We simply can’t go to Underground Sound to audition KEFs, then take the 10 minute drive to Modern Music Audio to hear the B&Ws, and finally take the 3 block walk to Opus Audio to try out the Vandersteen’s. I think you get the point. Keep up the good work because, thanks to home theater and other variables, those good ol’ stereo shops of yesteryear are mere nostalgia.

7:29 Danny is right and what he said doesn’t sound absurd at all. Here is why; what’s the point of fine tuning a speaker if your room (wich is the real instrument here) sounds crap? Tell me?.. For good audio what really matters is: The room first 50% Speakers 35% Amp Source

Awesome Video

Great job. I couldn’t have said it better.

I left the video with the feeling that Danny, like experts in any field might feel as young upstarts gain popularity without the same level of experience of ability as themselves, felt cheated. Ask anybody who is getting older about their experience compared to the pretty young things that are getting all the attention around them. One feels slighted and a little bit irked. You wake up one day and the world seems different, the old rules don't apply like they used to, values seem askew and the new generation just doesn't seem to know what they're talking about. Well, sometimes that is true but it is not for anyone to say. Life goes on. I like Danny. I like his character and I think his videos are good. The callout was a mistake. Not so much the theory but the naming. As soon as you start naming it becomes personal. Business is business, it is NOT personal. It doesn't matter if a person has ZERO experience in a field and finds success, that is business. In a sense that could be called good business. Or just savvy. I say there is room for everyone and let the audience decide. As soon as you start to call names you look threatened or insecure. Add age (I'm sorry to harp on age but I think it is relevant here) and you will be summarily dismissed by a very large demographic. It was a misstep. I will still watch his videos. I will still have my favorites (Darko). But in business and life, we like what we like. I bought Buchardt A500s solely on the Darko review. That's power. I bought the Audeze LCD=X watching the Headphone show. These review sites work. They sell products. If some reviewers make a little side=cash selling freebies they don't need I have absolutely no problem with that. Almost everyone I know has some kind of side-hustle. Even people who have money, it's the way things are.

We’ll Done Dave…. Thank You.

Love it! Was dead on right, you said what I believe everyone was thinking. Thanks

I can understand where Danny is coming from. Once your system is at a level where individual components matter it makes you say "Come and listen to my setup. I will show you what good sound is all about." Not to show off but to simply demo what words could not explain. Many moons ago I built an active system with high quality amps and designed an active 4 way crossover, for each speaker (Dynaudio drivers) and went through all the different upgrades of interconnects, speaker wiring, audiophile grade components throughout the whole system. All the wiring was done using military grade silver plated oxygen free copper in teflon sleeving. From the CD player to the speakers all was constantly changed to improve the sound. You name it i did it. Each little improvement also uncovered flaws in other parts of the system. All the changes and improvements just highlighted how the weakest link in the audio chain has an impact. It took a long time to get to a stage where I could truly relax and just listen to the music from pop to rock to classical. I just played what I was in the mood for and truly go immersed in the sound.

Keep up the good work , Some people are just haters .Most products wether Hi-fi or not are built to a price.. Some people have a agender in selling their own products .

This was very well said! Got to keep eyes on the ball. GR is interesting...but frustrating to watch. Subbed!

Did Danny ever come back to you Dave?

Just opened my second bag of popcorn 😂.

I would enjoy seeing Danny try to upgrade the single point crossover in my Martin Logan Classic 9. That could be a risky bit of a challenge for him! ((O:

If you want flat muffled sound get Danny’s kits!!! The make your speakers sound like you put a blanket over them🤣

Besides that everybody here is for fun, money or both there really isn’t a problem. We just need to be reminded that listening to music and playing with gear has limitless options so try and have fun while doing it. Listen to Andrew Jones talk about designing speakers and when you realize how it comes down to the penny in budget before he can get his design approved then you will be reminded of why upgrades can help or at least be a fun way to spend some time and money. Flux condenser “upgrading” his ohm walsh speakers was not cheap and resulted in negative results for him but it provided him with a good video series. I look forward to your tube amp videos and your impressions.

YOU SIR ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONG LINE OF TRUE HONEST AUDIOPHILES LINING UP AT YOUR DOOR TO HIGH FIVE YOU! THANK YOU FOR ACCURATELY SPEAKING FOR ALL OF US REGARDING THAT RIDICULOUS VIDEO BY GR RESEARCH.

Bringing home gear that sounds radically different than it did in the hi-fi showroom has been a bone of contention to the home audiophile for as long as I can remember and I'm old. You could almost say 'bait & switch', but not really if you took home exactly what you had demonstrated in the showroom b y the salesperson. At least Paul @PS Audio has written a book on how to setup and tune you system for your living space. Even the 'big gun' reviewers on RU-vid will readily admit, the choices out there are almost infinite and changing all the time. You'll rarely see anybody say something to the effect of;"You have a 20' x 16' room, this is exactly the stereo system you should have!" I'm glad to have choices, but it also becomes overwhelming unless you're the sort that is always tweaking and upgrading your system. Personally, I find that tedious. Room acoustics can radically change any system....but how far, how much to spend on that and for what gain is always the question. In fact you can say that about hi-fi in general, "How far and how much to spend for what gain?'

Good words. Subscribed.

Awesome Watch, mate!

Dave: I really like your content. As regards your looks & age: you look perfectly ok to me and I’m just a bloke! 😁 It’s not always about being as good looking as me I can tell you that! Seriously: keep it going man, we are very few in number who would make it in Hollywood (except myself of course!) 👍🏼

Not all of us have the opportunity to have a perfect listening room. We have to live in the real word and have our equipment in less than perfect spaces. I have been an audio enthusiast since I was 17, I'm 63 now and know i have a wonderful sounding system. Dave thanks for calling out Danny for the audio snob that he is. Enjoyed this video

Danny had many valid points and I totally agree with his sentiment! First he made a distinction between reviewers and regular customers and he was addressing the reviewers. As a reviewer people rely on you to make purchasing decision due to lack of local stores and personal auditions so you should be held to a higher standards, cashing in and hiding behind well its just my personal opinion wont cut it. After watching many glowing reviews of the Klipsch RP600 I was ready to pull the trigger but found out the local BestBuy carries it so I went to audition it and it took but a few minutes to realize it was nothing like the “ reviewers “ said it would. I think Danny made his video after he upgraded the said speaker and found a major dip in the frequency response in the mid range that none of the reviewers mentioned and it was also totally audible. If you are a reviewer and can’t hear it then you have no business being a reviewer and leading your audience the wrong way. That’s what he meant by “ they are not ready “. and I agree. I still watch these guys but just for entertainment, any future purchase will be by audition or a company with a generous return policy !

Looks like a comment/ thread I had responded to has been removed. Interesting - I wonder why. Did someone get nasty?

Boy! Danny seems to have managed to insult everyone in the HiFi review business.

Well said my friend.

What part of Florida are you in?

I really enjoy watching Danny's you tube channel, being a Hifi Geek, I just love to see what goes into speakers and Danny seems to know his stuff and really explains things very well. That said, I do often think if its that easy to make a great sounding flat response loudspeaker, why do the big speaker manufacturers keep getting it soo wrong!!! I feel the answer is in pre production live listening tests......just because the speaker has a flat response does not mean it is going to sound great for all music without sounding fatiguing.....I know they listen to their own products before marketing them....and I suspect that's when the final tweaking of crossovers begins. The human ear creates emotion.... its not an oscilloscope.

Well said 👍

Well said Danny, Payola is alive and well on RU-vid, I long ago gave up on reviews because they are so rigged.

You can to, download same fancy testing software like REW and CLIO and buy fancy testing hardware cheap prices, to test speaker

It’s cool to get varying opinions. No harm for folks like yourself who are critical thinkers. I think Danny missed out by not celebrating the young who get into audio. As Thomas & Stereo says it’s a journey. I’ve enjoyed the journey for decades starting when I was a child with a transistor radio.

I don't care how speakers sound in the listening room of a manufacturor, I care how well they match my equipment and listening environment :-)

Sir, I will humbly admit- I thought your video was clickbait and decided to watch it to see something comical to some degree of making a partially true point, but while looking petty or ignorant in some manner or fashion, but I'm proud to say I was wrong. Not only was I completely mistaken, but you actually handled your response to GR Research in the upmost respectable manner and covered every point with delicacy but with pure thoroughness where needed and dead-on fairness in a kind manner. Much respect, and I can honestly say that, in no scenario, would I have handled that any better myself. In fact, this is the kind of video that should always be made when handling responding to a channel with criticism on just the fundamental aspect of true respectfulness in handling a conflict, alone. For that, you've more than earned a subscribe from me and I feel like it should be all of our duty to give credit and support where needed in the community when individuals like yourself do what's right when presenting their content which likely involves a more realistic or down-to-earth representation of the community as a whole, rather than many of the RU-vid personalities we look up to/support etc. Well done! I'm a big fan of the Cheapaudioman and his approach to HiFi on RU-vid and I'm confident than many of us in his fanbase as well as similar channels that evolved from your average relatable person who's also on their HiFi journey just like the viewer supporting their channel would appreciate as well. I hope to see some more great content and humble points of view from you in the future. Cheers! PS - don't sweat production values so much. Steve Guttenburg, himself, doesn't present his channel in a way that looks like it could be a show you browse over to on Dish Network, yet many people, including myself, hold his thoughts/opinions to a much higher degree of consideration than we do with channels that possess that polished production value :)