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The day has finally arrived for Caltrain to begin testing their new Stadler EMUs. The date is June 5th, 2023, 10am, College Park station/San Jose, California. The plan is to test the electric multiple unit via pantograph/overhead catenary wire to operate under its own power on a portion of track between Caltrain’s CEMOF and Santa Clara station for a few days. Before the drop off, the team looked around the consist beforehand, later on dropping it off at the end of the track near Santa Clara station besides the main tracks. After some tests of the electrical systems, the team then began to run it back and forward on the portion of track. Later on ending testing for the day at the start of the commuter rush hour. Already delayed by 2 years, Caltrain is anticipating the EMUs to enter service by early 2024. Congratulations to Caltrain, the team onboard on this next step to a new future. Take a glimpse to what the future will look and sound like for Caltrain ft. some friendly crews as they past by!
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@commodoresbank Год назад

Its pretty surreal after all these years of seeing construction progress, they test their state-of-the-art electric trains under its own power. Kudos to Caltrain, and hopes to see them running on the electrified line next year.

@Emilien-hy3sy Год назад

I've been taking Stadler Kisses for about 15 years here in Switzerland, they're great! :) I'm glad you are starting to have some real trains!

@allyreneepenny9447 Год назад

One of a best trains 👍💯

@cats0182 8 месяцев назад

The US has ALWAYS had "real trains". They were designed in the US and built in the US. Unfortunately, the manufacturers were allowed to fold, and foreign companies filled the vacuum. It is a sad state of affairs.

@ryy4n_ 5 месяцев назад

@@cats0182 no they arent lmao, us trains are a joke

@Tracks_And_Chill 4 месяца назад

@@ryy4n_ US train SERVICE is a joke. The trains themselves are very much “real”.

@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 2 месяца назад

@@ryy4n_Man, you don't know anything

@FishyAltFishy Год назад

Cant wait to see it run on track thats not 2000 years old

@geowar20 Год назад

The oldest working railroad in CA was the Arcata and Mad River Railroad, first operational in December 15, 1854… that’s 169 years… so you’re good!

@davidng2336 Год назад

Caltrain is starting to go somewhere with this. I’m looking forward to the first revenue runs whenever that time comes.

@stephanweinberger Год назад

@9:19 that track alignment is brutal

@AndresGarcia-hu8ij Год назад

Caltrain trying to compete in the rollercoaster business

@pedromorgan99 Год назад

WTF! from UK..

@pedromorgan99 Год назад

Looks like low "cyclic top" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pgqyqyj3dNg.html

@pedromorgan99 Год назад

Detection ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5PFHxwpx01k.html

@chrisvazquez7 Год назад

That’s not the mainline. It’s just a yard lead.

@JoeyLovesTrains Год назад

Under its own power!!! Let’s gooo!!!!!! Edit: I wonder when testing on more of the corridor will take place. Either way, it’s very exciting to see it under its own power for one of the first times on Caltrain property! I wonder when AEM-7 testing will begin

@KcarlMarXs Год назад

Next week are supposed to be up to speed runs

@Jeff-uj8xi Год назад

What's the story with AEM-7 engines? Is Caltrain getting some? I hadn't heard that.

@LACMTA_Metrolink Год назад

@@Jeff-uj8xiyes Caltrain acquired 929 and 938 while 938 was repainted into Caltrains livery

@CraftyFoxe Год назад

Looks very sleek and modern!

@KCSM_1200 Год назад

Así es amigo, ojalá estas locomotoras sirvan para el bien de las personas

@KCSM_1200 Год назад

El tren es progreso

@allyreneepenny9447 Год назад

Absolutely 👍

@IamTheHolypumpkin Год назад

So great to see high quality European EMUs in the USA. You really deserve better (and electric) trains. The only thing which looks odd to me is that the upper level is full width. In Europe the dynamic envelope is smaller so the upper level is usually curved inwards.

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

The US has a ludicrously large loading gauge since most infrastructure is set for double stacked container freight which is about 20 feet tall

@cats0182 8 месяцев назад

Don't like our trains? Stay where you are. The US HAD "better trains" for eons. However, travelers learned that they could get to the destinations more timely by plane(long distances) or car(short distances). Train ridership declined and only the US government(AMTRAK) could save it. Whether it should have or not can be debated.

@ajf5745 3 месяца назад

@@cats0182 i'm sorry but us trains don't hold a candle to the shinkansen

@osmanhossain676 Год назад

I always love Caltrain electrifications and California High-Speed Rail.😮

@ignaciotorovillacura6342 Год назад

it's incredible the difference between those old steel wagons and that modern and clean EMU. Congratulations to california!

@eannamcnamara9338 Год назад

It makes me happy to see a real modern suburban train running in california

@CaliforniaOfAoi Год назад

Rolling stock from Switzerland.

@allyreneepenny9447 Год назад

Yes that's correct,but these trains was build in North America! Stadler has many Factories in Europe and North America.

@Sven_Okas1967 Год назад

It's nice that the electrical operation is now taken up there. But the last time the test track was revised was 50 years ago. Thanks for the video. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven

@RussianSevereWeatherVideos Год назад

Lovely to see such familiar trains over there. Here they are used as an airport train that ferries people to and from Moscow's airports. Ridden on 'em quite a few times! Thanks for sharing this with us!

@ncard00 Год назад

Please upload whenever you get some footage of the train accelerating from stations, and them passing by at top speed.

@osmanhossain676 Год назад

I love Caltrain electrifications and California High-Speed Rail.😮

@HansCSchellenberg 7 месяцев назад

Yes Osman, we know

@pfroud1 Год назад

Excellent video, thanks for recording and posting this!

@alexverdigris9939 Год назад

12:45 , 16:50 - lovely straight track 😵‍💫😂

@harrisonofcolorado8886 Год назад

9:10 The bell reminds me of those from light rail systems.

@tankman_tv9332 Год назад

26:30 i was also on that ACE to fremont

@northerncalirails2008 Год назад

Good shot

@ethancampbell6076 Год назад

9:08 LRV E-bell really. It's a wise Idea Stadler's needed a E-bell for Caltrain

@mescalita8 Год назад

I agree because its not à light raiĺ

@realadrieno Год назад

so they are gonna change the bells?

@MSRTA_Productions Год назад

@@realadrienomost likely not

@oaksub510 Год назад

Nice video

@TrippaMazing87 Год назад

Let’s hope the MBTA *eventually* follows this..

@JasonBentrosnowqube Год назад

Yes, the MBTA needs electrification. We cannot use diesel trains anymore.

@LACMTA_Metrolink Год назад

@@JasonBentrosnowqubeexactly plus electric trains are fantastic in my opinion than diesels

@LACMTA_Metrolink Год назад

The MBTA will actually be electrified next year

@JasonBentrosnowqube Год назад

@@LACMTA_Metrolink source?

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

I heard the Massachusetts state legislature is trying to force them to Electrify

@awesomevillevlog5798 Год назад

Bell reminds me of Most Railroad crossings

@StocktonSubber Год назад

I now have the right to call them "Big LRVs" with that bell. *You cannot stop me.*

@realadrieno Год назад

wasn’t planning on that

@natesmainlinevids Год назад

A good name, or a mini commuter rail for some other agencies in the US that have Stadler Flirt units instead.

@LonestarTrips Год назад

It Begins!

@lubzeN Год назад

Awesome video!

@stampycatfan01lol Год назад

That’s an interesting choice for a bell. They honestly don’t look too bad though.

@almerindaromeira8352 Год назад

If you put it side to side with the "normal" one for europe you won't be saying that anymore 😅

@realadrieno Год назад

if heavy rail trains in europe had bells, they would probably sound like that.

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

Should've gone with a Graham white E-bell like Amtrak uses

@ChimmyAnimate 2 месяца назад

Just keep the bell dude, it's more than just not bad, it's a vibe

@Whiterose11476 Год назад

Wow, very cool

@pacificostudios Год назад

I think the new cars are handsome. They look clean and efficient.

@martinbauer8395 Год назад

Amtrak California should do the same with their LA to San Diego Surfliner trains. Are these going to be 8 car sets like the Sydney Trains EMUs (A, B, K, M & T Sets, and NSW Trainlink H & V Sets? or up to 10 cars (NSW Trainlink D Sets, built by Hyundai Totem). The bell, when used with the flashing headlights (starting around 9:09 in the video) sounds like level crossing bells. 😎🇦🇺

@utahrailfan1946 Год назад

7 cars.

@amtrak_121 Год назад

No! I like locomotive hauled sets!

@sixfifty_sebb 10 месяцев назад

nah they’re better diesel even tho they won’t do this now cuz they have sc44s

@jonathanpowell3763 Год назад

That is Quiet!!! Wow!

@viperq Год назад

Long overdue.

@Slipperyisimproving Год назад

Caltrain's new Stadler Kiss Electric Multiple Units begin testing under their own power and not by a diesel locomotive. The future of Caltrain: complete electrification due to the California High Speed Rail construction. It's the end of the line for Caltrain's current diesel locomotives. RIP Caltrain's diesel fleet.

@osmanhossain676 Год назад

Yes.😮

@allyreneepenny9447 Год назад

Awesome trains 👍

@RafaelAcosta-oq4eo Год назад

Very nice video ❤

@HansCSchellenberg 7 месяцев назад

Osman is so very happy about this 😆🤣

@gerdel8615 4 месяца назад

The emus will be nicer than old trains

@railfangarrett6313 Год назад

I thought caltrain was going to use the aem-7's to test first before the emu's

@felixbeutin8105 Год назад

think they did already

@cadespencer6320 Год назад

@@felixbeutin8105 video of that?

@thuringervideograf9811 Год назад

Compared to the Stadler Kiss trains that run here in Germany (such as those that run for the ODEG or the Westfalenbahn), I find the Caltrain ones pretty ugly. Of course there are also some regulations in the USA and Caltrain will have played along with that, but the design is weird in my opinion.

@brandonk9706 Год назад

The front body design is the same as SBB's latest KISS trainsets. However, the loading gauge on Caltrain's corridor is larger than those in Switzerland and most of Europe so the top level windows don't need to curve in. It's more spacious upstairs on the inside, but it does make the outside look boxy compared to its European cousins.

@RTSRafnex2 Год назад

@@brandonk9706 no curved windows is a downgrade though. They give a great view.

@Fidel_cashflo Год назад

@@brandonk9706 They had to build two sets of doors at different heights so it could use future CAHSR platforms too

@brandonk9706 Год назад

@@Fidel_cashflo This is technically true since the high-level doors did get built alongside the trains, but there are no current plans to install those doors on the trains in the Bay Area. They are currently in long-term storage in a warehouse off-site. You can see the outline where the doors would be if they were ever installed, but right now there is seating and an emergency exit window in that spot on each car.

@tankman_tv9332 Год назад

@@RTSRafnex2 curved windows make the train feel cramped and more like an airplane in a bad way

@D445Scilla Год назад

Beautiful video. Congrats. I subscribe on your channel

@aoilpe Год назад

Swiss pride on American rails…

@user-gk8gg1zt7l Год назад

Excellent video, likes from me !

@tankman_tv9332 Год назад

Wait you were there too? Dang nice so was I

@juanmontull8550 Год назад

What is that track!!😨Is the most unsafe bumpy track I've ever seen!

@gregorygrice Год назад

Its a yard lead.

@juanmontull8550 Год назад

@@gregorygrice And? In Spain even our yard leads are well maintained, it's something basic for railway safety. In the US you take good care of cargo trains, but as far as passenger trains are concerned, they are third-world class

@GamingRailfanner Год назад

@@juanmontull8550 Even Freight isn't maintained properly

@GamingRailfanner Год назад

Also for the love of god, stop with your "wE hAvE bEtTeR tRaIN iNfAsTrUcTuRe". we get it, we've fallen behind and we're trying to catch up, this is a start.

@elioarmas-rojo8601 Год назад

@@GamingRailfanner I’d like to remind them that if is nightjet hit a deer, they’d have to stop and delay the train meanwhile Amtrak will hit a deer and keep going😂😂😂

@Band__geek Год назад

If Caltrain gets rid of their bile so cars and their locomotive equipment, Metra could take it as they almost use the same cars and locomotives.

@coleallen3895 Год назад

Metra should take the three Caltrain F40s that were built in 1998 as well as the Gallery cars that were built in 2000

@Ivan88_ Год назад

they staring at them gallery cars as we speak

@davidng2336 Год назад

Metra actually went for Alstom Coradia cars to replace their oldest Gallery cars.

@Ivan88_ Год назад

@@davidng2336 Yeah but at the same time they brought back their oldest equipment 😂

@davidng2336 Год назад

@@Ivan88_ that’s EXACTLY what’s getting replaced by the Coradia cars.

@lalakerspro Год назад

1:55 comparison to how much better the old horn sounds

@almerindaromeira8352 Год назад

That's the boxiest KISS I've ever seen. Why is the roof so wide and flat? Loading gauge?

@zoNicke Год назад

Weird American regulations

@georgobergfell Год назад

Loading gauge allows this

@TohaBgood2 Год назад

@@zoNicke Nope. The US loading guage is wider and the ADA regulations more strict. Hence, you need the wider second level to avoid losing seats up there.

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

They have room and it means you can fit more seats anyway yeah American rolling stock is very tall

@DDELE7 9 месяцев назад

Can you imagine those bad boys on the MBTA Commuter Rail? 😌

@tom-and-mom Год назад

This was also taken on the 35th day of the writers' strike, right?

@user-bs1zo6tr2g Год назад

Electrification is a great step forward! I would love to see the United States rival Switzerland and China when it comes to passenger rail. We already have an excellent road system, it's time to bring rail to the point no one needs a car to get around.

@mikegross6107 Год назад

I wonder how bad a condition the track has to be before any trains are allowed to run on them!

@yaraihan Год назад

The Bell Sound Just Like Railroad Crossing In The US.

@kirkzevola5004 5 месяцев назад

Looks like Caltrain went from railroad to trolley’s cause they literally look like trolleys

@physh 10 месяцев назад

Do you know if the swiss build the trains differently to deal with the crappy tracks in the US?

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

If German and Swedish Rolling stock work swiss should too but not the shit alstom cranks out

@physh 10 месяцев назад

@@IndustrialParrot2816 *Swiss

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

@@physh i Said Swiss

@joostvanderlee9569 8 месяцев назад

finally some real trains in a part of the usa

@portcybertryx222 Год назад

I hope that’s the test track cause it looks hella sus

@hpage66 Год назад

Cool! Let's some Caltrain AEM-7 video!

@shopdog831 Год назад

man that siding track is pritty lumpy

@marcocampos2332 Год назад

Are the MP36s gonna be in service when the KISS EMU trains are in service

@LACMTA_Metrolink Год назад

Yes

@marcocampos2332 Год назад

@@LACMTA_Metrolink oh ok

@LACMTA_Metrolink Год назад

@@marcocampos2332 from tamien to gilroy

@evanstonbalce9588 4 месяца назад

They will remain in Caltrain’s possession but they will only be in service between Tamien and Gilroy stations

@eurouc Год назад

The track looks to be in terrible condition.

@lalakerspro Год назад

It's not used for actual service

@jeremykuhn6462 Год назад

It was all nice and quiet until I came blasting through there XD

@adamstahl3948 Год назад

The European version looks better. I don't understand the American rules at all... Why do trains have to flash, ring and look so big? And American railroad signals? The chapter itself... :D

@lalakerspro Год назад

We don't want these trains to crumble up when hitting a vehicle like the European ones do

@adamstahl3948 Год назад

@@lalakerspro It has nothing to do with looks.

@TheRealNinja5704 Год назад

All for safety reasons to prevent pedestrians and cars from getting hit and having them know a train is coming. Also I actually prefer this over the mainstream European versions

@lalakerspro Год назад

@TheRealNinja5704 don't like this particular bell or horn, the bell sounds like a grade crossing bell. Should have kept the same horn and bell as the diesel caltrains

@TheRealNinja5704 Год назад

@@lalakerspro Agreed, I like those better.

@MLAGGIONE Год назад

didn't know california has electrified rail tracks.

@DanielLamando Год назад

it does now (this has been an ongoing effort for caltrain & I understand not 100% done yet)

@MLAGGIONE Год назад

@@DanielLamando well good for them. this is a step in right direction to modernise USA rail infrastructure. and so happy to see California is getting HSR from Los Angeles to San Diego. Trust me it's much more worth it than flying with airplane at least on those short to medium distances....

@trainfanx2 Год назад

Looks kinda like the Swedish er1

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

That's because it's the same family of Trains

@chrismasonreal Год назад

Ok but where the AEM-7s at

@fantrain2023ferovi Год назад

Les trains américains ressemble de plus en plus au train européens

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

That's because it is European it's built by swiss rolling stock manufacturer Stadler

@TrainsAreReallyCool 6 месяцев назад

@@IndustrialParrot2816 Which isn't right, at all.

@kevinhoward9593 Год назад

First time under its own power on home rails?

@0x0079 Год назад

look at the stupid bi level doors i love them so much

@Vektab Год назад

What will be the allowed speed once it's fully in operation?

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

110 mph

@josephjacobs247 Год назад

Why tf does caltrain have metra coaches someone pls explain

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

They bought the same kind they have always bought the equipment as Metra until now

@sixfifty_sebb 10 месяцев назад

those coaches aren’t made by metra n they ain’t the only ones using them

@ryanbahrami 11 месяцев назад

How dare they replace the F40PH and MP36 They need to keep running the old fleet or they need to make Metra happy

@sixfifty_sebb 10 месяцев назад

they will only run they’re rebuilt f40’s and mp36’s and bombardier sets since those aren’t very old like the old gen f40’s and gallery cars

@ChimmyAnimate 2 месяца назад

*MASSIVE FACEPALM* You mean to tell me that we should keep the F40phs that Is literally outdated nowadays?

@ryanbahrami 2 месяца назад

@@ChimmyAnimate If it aint broke dont fix it

@amtrak713productions8 Год назад

Does it have a horn?

@IndustrialParrot2816 10 месяцев назад

Yes it sounds kinda weird yho

@jackchen7003 Год назад

wow I can't believe they finally have these things up and running. Although, looking at this train will get some getting used to, its extremely ugly...

@Coffee_Rail1112 Год назад

thats why i've nicknamed it the trashcan

@TheRandCrews Год назад

Always with these people hating European train sets, too bad it’s the future cause North America doesn’t build their own bulky, blocky, flat train designs anymore.

@AlexanderOnFire Год назад

@@TheRandCrews To be fair the European trains look better than this set, which is because of the US regulations so bulky.

@amtrak_121 Год назад

I agree!

@amtrak_121 Год назад

@@TheRandCrews It's called improving an old design. Look it up.

@atemk42 Год назад

welp offically we now know the aem-7 can operate on caltrain

@kv.voyage Год назад

What is the scale of electrification for the Caltrain network, e.g. what areas will it reach?

@brandonk9706 Год назад

With this project they have electrified the 51 mile stretch from 4th & King Station (San Francisco) to Tamien Station (San Jose). In the future, they are looking to run these units on electrified tracks shared with CAHSR which would add 26 miles of electrified tracks south to Gilroy. The partnership with CAHSR has an uncertain timeline since that stretch of the project is currently without funding, but if/when it gets built the improvement will bump max speeds on the corridor from 79mph to 110 mph. Needless to say, that future upgrade is packaged with a lot of grade separations and safety improvements.

@kv.voyage Год назад

Very detailed explaination - cheers

@adrianbrandt Год назад

Actually, according to their published and approved FEIR/S documents covering SF-SJ & SJ-Gilroy, the HSRA does not plan or need to fund any additional grade separations for 110 mph operation. As per FRA regulations, they will instead equip all grade crossings with four quadrant crossing gates, thereby preventing any possibility of vehicles driving around lowered crossing gates.

@brandonk9706 Год назад

@@adrianbrandt It is true that quad gate crossings combined with pedestrian crossing gates and traffic dividers are sufficient for level crossings at 110 mph. Nonetheless, CAHSR and 110 mph service is the primary reason why Caltrain wants to go beyond with its planned grade separation projects at: Broadway (Burlingame), Peninsula Avenue (Burlingame), South Linden Avenue (South San Francisco), Castro Street (Mountain View), Rengstorff Avenue (Mountain View), Mary Avenue (Sunnyvale), Churchill Avenue (Palo Alto), Meadow Drive (Palo Alto), and Charleston Road (Palo Alto). If the recently-completed Hillsdale Grade Separation is any indication, CAHSR will likely pitch in to assist with grade separation funding on their future corridor.

@TohaBgood2 Год назад

@@adrianbrandt It's true that they don't _need_ anything more than quad gates per the FRA. But there are still a ton of grade separation projects in various stages of completion and planning. Those will move forward independent of the 110 mph certification. The cities on the route want to remove some of the crossings and this will be beneficial when they start saturating the schedule with trains. Caltrain is moving to a more S-Bahn/regional metro service pattern so the more crossings they can remove the better.

@tompaah7503 Год назад

Hope they will run okay on the decrepit US railroads.

@rail-ryder7135 3 месяца назад

First F.L.I.R.T. now K.I.S.S. What's next H.U.G.?

@Alexriga 2 месяца назад

P.E.N.E.T.R.A.T.O.R. high speed train which penetrains air.

@realadrieno Год назад

i will be referring to that ebell as a european ebell from here on and there’s no stopping me.

@Abel_DG 11 месяцев назад

In Europe we don’t equip our trains with bells. Here people can see the train coming.

@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle Год назад

MAN WHY CAN'T THEY USE AMERICAN HORNS ON THESE TRAINS?

@amtrak_121 Год назад

I don't know but we have to do something about all this, otherwise I fear the worst for our country's passenger trains.

@sixfifty_sebb 10 месяцев назад

they should’ve put p2 horns or ace trains k5la horns instead of wtv that is

@ChimmyAnimate 2 месяца назад

Lemme guess, y'all are trying to make it look more "american"? Caltrain has more important things to do than replacing something so insignificant, like replacing a horn, which is already useful to warn pedestrians

@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle 2 месяца назад

@@ChimmyAnimate because they have chords, european horns are a single note

@ChimmyAnimate 2 месяца назад

@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle it still doesn't matter, because i like the horn (My opinion)

@peninsula_sub Год назад

I can't wait to hear about it crashing into a loaded cement truck at 79 mph.

@CHEATCODE-gavin Год назад

Lol

@TheRandCrews Год назад

Caltrain has grade crossings?

@Yvonne-Bella Год назад

@@TheRandCrews yes, but the crossings will be getting quad gates

@danielcarlin7784 Год назад

how would that be any different than a control car hitting a cement truck?

@mikegaskin5542 Год назад

@@TheRandCrews It has a bajillion grade crossings

@carollinegrace1006 Год назад

California is flat broke with a huge looming deficit, and CalTrain ridership is only 27% (less than a 3rd) of what it was before Covid (October 2019). Hey let's spend some money on new trains that nobody will ride. I hope San Francisco turns into California's Detroit. You get what you vote for.

@frafraplanner9277 Год назад

What do you think will happen to rideship once the train frequency and speed are increased?

@carollinegrace1006 Год назад

@@frafraplanner9277 The primary problem with the ridership deficit is that a large majority of people discovered during Covid that they could work from home. Do you REALLY think that these people are going to beg to go back to the office everyday because CalTrain got faster??? I advise you start calling all the major property management companies in S.F. who are losing money on empty office space, and tell them that their salvation is right around the corner because CalTrain will be faster and more frequent. Glory halleluiah the offices will be overflowing with workers once again all thanks to CalTrain. Jeez, the major problem with modern planners is that they're born and raised in classrooms right out of high school, then go to work in overpaid fantasy worlds. No common sense whatsoever.

@Jeff-uj8xi Год назад

@@carollinegrace1006 This problem isn't unique to California. It's just as bad in New Jersey and New York. You can't blame people for wanting to skip the rat race of commuting if they don't have to. If even for a few days a week. Commuting is expensive as well as time consuming. But there will always be people that have to commute. For example hospital workers, restaurant workers, theatre workers, factory workers, etc. But 9 to 5 office workers could skip all or some of their commute.

@carollinegrace1006 Год назад

@@Jeff-uj8xi Ehhhh? DUH !!! I wasn't blaming workers for staying at home. I was blaming public transit (especially Cal Train) for buying new equipment when their ridership is barely 30% of what it was in 2019. Now public transit providers like CalTrain and BART are complaining their fare box intake is way down from per-pandemic. What I'm trying to say is STOP MAKING @)@# STYLE UPGRADES WITH 1990's RIDERSHIP. Sheesh, everyone wants to blame someone except their precious little Government leaders.

@carollinegrace1006 Год назад

@@Jeff-uj8xi WELL NO DUH !! You can't expect all office workers to return to the office after Red State leaders sent them all home forever. That's NOT what my point was. My point is that public transit is not going to lure the workers back to their offices by simply modernizing public transit. Yet CalTrain and many others continue VAST modernization, electrification, and equipment upgrades despite that their ridership is barley 30% of what it was in 2019. Now providers like BART are whining that their fare-box intake is way below what is required to operate out of the red. Again: DUH!!! If these agencies can't afford to operate with 1990's fare intakes and ridership, then it's time to go back to providing 1990's style service. Yet nobody in this forum wants to hold their precious little Government officials accountable for anything. Taxpayers are tired of watching empty busses and trains running around in circles all day.