Calvinism Sermon: Unconditional Election (Part 3 in series) 

Man I like this guy he is a good preacher and sounds like he has read Johnathon Edwards. I have been asleep for 10 years and found this man preaching and he was used to shake me.

I've been hearing Gods Word being preached by you for a few weeks now. Please, send me a cage for me to go into. I have recognized the Truth of the Word. Thank you God, for choosing me. I always knew the American church/gospel was not right when I read the Word. Thank you God!

Once we fully embraced the doctrine of grace and how God loves us. It free us up to love our neighbors.

This message is amazing. All glory to God.

Thank you, this series is helping me a great deal.

i am beginning to understand "grace" in a better light , the light of Him who created all things . Grace frees us to carry out the works He has ordained for us to perform without condemnation . From now on I will preach with the understanding that if they are of His flock then they will hear and receive the message if they are not of His flock then they will not accept His Word and I am not to be condemned because of that . I shall cast out the net ( His Word ) and He will draw them to His net ( His Word ) and His flock will hear , those not of His flock will swim away ......... And there is no condemnation upon me for that . His grace gives me joy . But , why me ? Why not those around me ? Why have I been predestined ? Because He is sovereign , He does as He chooses , that is who He is . Do we choose who we give gifts too ? .... YES , then why should He who created all things not give gifts to whom He chooses , and for a Holy reason , a justified reason . His motivations are righteous ours unrighteous .

Amen...

Keep preaching and teaching the truth, Jeff. Oh, dude, and not all of us dread heads are heretics. lol

Excellent sermon! Hallelujah!!!

Wow,wow,wow. I love the Lord .

Amen amen amen

“For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.” Ecclesiastes‬ ‭1:18‬ ‭‬‬

Very powerful truth.

Thank you so much

God is great

God love is good love

Brother Jeff 🙏.

AMEN!

Amen

Thank u. Apologia..

It all comes down to free-will-Best explained in the clearest book on this topic!-"Where Calvinism goes wrong!" by Brother Robert

I love you so much

This sermon was a masterpiece!

Nice video yes sir

Great message brother keep up the good work!!

Jeff mentioned the scripture references would be posted on his page - anyone know where that might be?

You right sir

Good story sir

Good msg

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Where is the link for part 1 and 2? Help someone? Thanks.

This was very encouraging!

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I know one thing, if everyone here who "hates Calvinists" so much was really concerned about the eternal welfare of the lost, I would see A LOT more evangelists out and about. I don't, just so we are clear..... "Our first care should be that the sheep should be gathered to the great Shepherd; there will be time enough afterwards to secure them for our various folds." Charles H. Surgeon. if your really a Christian, those words should mean something.

John 6:37 at 1:05:00 so clear and straight to the point...that I never read my bible 😂. So glad my mind was changed to believe this doctrine

can someone give me the Link for the notes ? thanks !!

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What about one who backslides and returns to Jesus, repented and wants to continue serving God and Jesus?

So, let me get this straight. Some of those commenting believe man has a choice and God does not arbitrarily elect one person and not another person. So, if I have an unsaved friend or loved one, why would I ask God to save my friend or loved one? What gives me the right to ask God to take away someone's "choice" to deny Jesus? And if man has choice, why would I ask God to interfere or manipulate someone's choice? To add, what do I say about those that I've prayed for and God doesn't "open" their heart and they continue to deny Jesus? Yet, for another friend I pray for, God interferes and manipulates. What does that say about God? Isn't God still "electing"? Or was that dumb luck? So, asking God to save someone is considered what? Spiritual kidnapping/hijacking? After all, God is robbing someone of choice.

I think people have difficulty with this because we have in mind the image of a person who on their own wants God, loves God, wants to be saved, but God says, "No." The problem is that this person is a fiction. They do not and have never existed.

if brother fights brother then neither have love a discusion is to be made for those who do not believe.

I know it's asking a lot, but could you put up the verses used or direct me to the webpage... pls :)

Oh wow hear it is: Ephesians 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, ... Ephesians 1:11 It would seem Pastor Durbin has a valid point.

Jean Calvin (John Calvin) single-handedly served the Catholic Church of the day it's biggest defeat and IMO saved Christianity from idolatry so when people start whining and moaning it's because they hate the TRUTH and yes the Truth hurts (at first) but those who are asleep are awoken from their slumber. Calvin was that "salt and light" as Christ Himself had commanded.

So I've been listening to this and many other Jeff sermons and I am getting worried. I think I was saved and thought my salvation was sure as is described in this sermon. I knew in my heart the glory of God but I fell away but always had that still voice in the back of my mind. My sin became awful. In this sermon Jeff mentions that those who fall away Jesus never really knew but I thought He did' I have been rotten I know that...

Read Dr. Ken Wilson's book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism" to see how Augustine attempted to explain how infants could become elect through baptism. Since the child had not come to faith, it must be based on the will of another. It could have nothing to do with the will of the child. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, .

Question for all those who accept predestination: do you ever wonder whether or not YOU are elect? HAVE you ever? If not, why not?

In Jeremiah 19:5 God says, “They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal-something I did NOT COMMAND or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” 2nd Peter 3:9 says, “The Lord is…not willing that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.” and yet, it also has Jesus saying, "Broad is the road that leads to destruction (hell) and many are on it, but straight and narrow is the road that leads to life (Heaven) and few ever find it."

In school I learned that Calvinists believe that God has already determined who gets salvation and you have no control of whether or not you can be a good person. Is this taken from scripture or is it just a perspective Calvinists took on?

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how can a perfectly good being create evil?

Gods grace is not "wrecked" by my inability to understand it!! If I don't "properly" understand Gods grace, according to Calvinism, aren't I predestined to not understand it "properly"?? If I am predestined to misunderstand Gods grace than isn't He "wrecking" His own Grace Himself???

Tulip. God loves me. He loves me not. He loves me. He loves me not.

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Wait a minute maybe I'm getting this - the story of Lazarus. Hmmm

Jesus said - if you won’t come as little kids Then you better start Trying to come as little kids . Jesus loves the little kids of the world . Jesus kids hear the voice of Jesus - & They come to Jesus . Heaps coals of fire on the super smart sadduccess and Pharisees. So quit the John Calvin. 5 points Recipe Card for salvation . Jesus said in John 15 to abide in Him and act like men and women and boys and girls that will tell the truth of the light shining in us .

I'm not sure why any of this would be controversial to followers of Christ. Hard to fully understand, sure. But controversial, and even offensive? I don't get it.

There is no passage that speaks of unconditional election or supports the idea that we have all been unchangeably designed. God is not arbitrary. God is just. His temporal purposes moved Him to elect certain individuals to certain roles for certain purposes, but it was not to design them for hell and design others personally to heaven. There is real choice given to man to choose. He may harden his heart and become a vessel for wrath, or he may soften his heart toward God and be made a vessel of honor. God is not willing that any should perish (II Peter 3:9) but that all should come to repentance. Which way have you inclined your heart? If you judge yourself unworthy of eternal life, then the choice was yours to make, and if you are disposed and determined to have eternal life, then the opportunity is yours to take advantage of. Do not "neglect so great salvation" (Hebrews 2:1-4). Do not let someone tell you that you have to wait to see what you have been designed to do. Do not let someone put the blame on God if you are not saved because He was arbitrary and just did not design you for salvation. This is too important. Please consider that you do have a choice. God has set before us life and death. Therefore, choose life. Choose today.

watch! watch! watch! watch!.......i enjoy this Guy but watch!

Who walk not after the flesh but after the sprint

As far as Eph 2:8 the gift was grace, not faith. Also Lazarus loved Jesus before his death; it seemed to be showing His power to raise us in the last day. Still a good sermon, though.

EPHESIANS 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us IN HIM before the foundation of the world, THAT WE SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLAME before him in love: “Notice that Paul does NOT say that God chose us ‘TO BE in Christ’. He rather says God chose us *IN CHRIST* to be holy and blameless. What God chose from before the foundation of the world was that WHOEVER IS IN CHRIST will be holy and blameless in His sight. That came out of the counsel of His will. Election is not unconditional. It’s conditional on being IN CHRIST. IT’S ALL ABOUT CHRIST! QUESTION: Does Ephesians 1:4 day He chose us to be saved or does it say He chose us (in Him) to be holy and blameless? ANSWER: The text explicitly and undeniably states, “to be HOLY and BLAMELESS.” QUESTION: What’s the condition to being made Holy and blameless? ANSWER: We have to be IN HIM as the verse explicitly and undeniably states. Just simply taking what the verse SAYS and not forcing it to say something it doesn’t to suit our doctrine it becomes quite clear this verse is NOT speaking of unbelievers chosen for salvation. *********************************** ...According to Ephesians 1:5 we are predestined to be adopted children of God BY JESUS: EPHESIANS 1:5 5 Having predestinated us unto the ADOPTION of children BY JESUS CHRIST to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, **Ask yourself does Ephesians 1:5 say some unbelievers are predestined to salvation? OR does it say that we are predestined unto adoption BY JESUS CHRIST. Are we predestined to believe before coming to Christ or are we predestined to be adopted BY JESUS CHRIST? By who? By pre-faith regeneration? Or BY JESUS CHRIST? JESUS is the elect one. JESUS is the chosen one. JESUS is the predestined one. **Before the foundation of the world HE was elect/chosen/predestined that it would be THROUGH Him that salvation would come and no other way. The WAY (which is Christ) was decided before the foundation of the world. God created the world already knowing that He would have to one day send His Son and crucify Him. The PLAN of salvation (which was to be through faith) was arranged by God’s grace beforehand. It was a PERFECT plan and everything was GOOD according to the counsel of God. Adoption does not happen when we believe. We’re adopted at the day of redemption. ...According to Romans 8:15 we’ve received the SPIRIT of adoption: ROMANS 8:15 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the SPIRIT OF ADOPTION, WHEREBY WE CRY, ABBA, FATHER. **We’re groaning for our actual adoption on the DAY OF REDEMPTION. **Right now we have the SPIRIT of adoption which is our seal, our GUARANTEE that we will be adopted. **We cry, “ABBA, Father” because we’re WAITING and LONGING for our final adoption WHEN WE’RE GLORIFIED. ROMANS 8:23 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, WAITING FOR THE ADOPTION, TO WIT, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY. **The adoption takes place at our glorification.

I am not doubting Calvinism, for I see it in Scripture; but this is what I get out of the Bible: 1. God's Will Though it is God's will that I am predestined, it (In my eyes) is by chance that it was his will. Thus it is only by a faint chance that I was drawn by the Spirit, who overcame my rebellion FOR ME, to be saved from eternal torment. And this in a world where the majority are not. Probably the vast majority are not. -How can I not feel that this is rather arbitrary and that our grief for the lost should overwhelm whatever joy we have for ourselves? Also, how can I not shake that terror of having been so close to the fire and had no power on my own to avoid it? 2. Conversions. So they are inevitable. If I see an unsaved person in the street, say, an LBGT activist, come to Christ, I am experiencing God's sovereignty brought to completion in that individual, correct? In other words, that person was not a wretch who had a change of heart by way of reasoning or logic, but a wretch who - against THEIR will - had the Spirit infiltrate their soul change their heart from stone to flesh. And this was done at a predetermined time by God. We are commanded to spread the Gospel, but it seems therefore that the command is NOT so that others will be saved - for salvation does not depend on our actions - but rather we are commanded because WE are saved. It is to be our role. That preaching the Word, on top of other traits, is to confirm our election. -How can this not discourage us from feeling that devout Christianity is more of an obligation than an empowerment? That is, if God saves them anyway, why would I WANT to get involved? Is it to simply be apart of the action, to be available for the Spirit to use, and thus reap a reward? Whereas if I was not involved than all is well for both the activist and I anyhow and I'm just out one treasure in heaven? 3. The Big Picture. Let me be blunt. This is how the Story begins: There is eternal, three-part God. Nothing else. All is well. This is how the Story ends (As described by God): There is eternal, three-part God, now with his elect angels and humans in new heaven and earth. And a far greater host of humans and angels suffering for all eternity. Father forgive my blasphemy, my leaning own understanding, my failure to remember that NOW we see in a mirror dimly, BUT how is the latter better? How is this Glory? I will have all who read this know, I live in shear terror of God.

How can a dead man sin either? I feel like they twist the meaning. God also wills/desires that none should perish too, but many will. He will draw all men unto Him, but not all will accept.

Lions and tigers and bears OH MY!

12:09 Todd White reference? Lol...

27min.. Perseverance of the saints.. Jeffery says NO you cant lose your salvation.. but then says what if someone who believed walks away .. well, in that case then they were not of us to begin with.. not one of the sheep.. this is like a win win argument then isnt it.. no matter which way a mans journey works out.. you can be right.. The isdue i find gets kinda missed with this election/limited atonement doctrine is this.. Lets say its true.. wonderful if your one of the chosen ones. But not so wonderful if your not and will never ne able to be as your unable to respond to the gospel. Now.. those ive met who believe they are of the elect.. i hear them joyful about that.. and i also often hear a tone of aloofness in them, they can also be very condescending and mocking of others.. even looking down their spiritual noses at the reprobate peasants who maybe say sonething like "ive been seeking God".. or I heard the good news of the gospel & chose to believe in christ.. So.. my point is this.. if you are one of the elect and were regenerated & then believed .. making you positionally in Grace.. and saved.. that would mean you receive his spirit.. and are made new.. a circumsized heart.. a heart capable of love, of kindness, of charity etc etc.. Yet i dont think ive ever heard these guys crying tears of anguish for the millions around them daily who havent got an assigned non merited unconditional golden ticket .. and are gonna burn forever in hell.. If your heart is changed how can you just feel absolutely wonderful for you and your elect chums.. knowing the majority around you just aint getting in.. With changed hearts id of imagoned youd of seen Callvinists everywhere crying continually that many around them, loved knes included, are NEVER even gonna get a chance.. coz god hated them Horrible doctrine

If calvinism is the truth, Why aren't their churches exploding with salvations and great moving of the Holy Spirit like in the first 300 years of authentic christianity. And on the other hand, there are great Christian movements, seeing hundreds of thousands of people being saved, discipled like in the early church, but they are not Calvinist... Can someone please explain?

I think Jeff miss understands Todd Whites teachings. When Todd focuses on the worth of someone. He's helping folks who think they are so far gone believe that God still loves them. He loves you so much He sent his only begotten son to die for so that you could be reconciled. The bible says the kingdom of God (us) are a treasure. Praise God we do have worth because God gave it to us. I find your brushing off of that truth which is what Todd White is talking about misguided.

Hey Jeff. Why is it that it seems that you make Calvinism to be its own religion in itself. It almost seems so emphasized to the point that it needs to be so set apart from Christianity itself.?

Pastor Jeff, I respectfully disagreed with your teaching on unconditional election and unlimited election as evidenced by the following verses; (Rom 5:12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Rom 5:17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) (Rom 5:18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (Rom 5:19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. #1 from these verses Romans 5:12-21 are the exposition which explicitly evidenced the apostle produces a strong argument to prove that, as all mankind stood in need of the grace of God in Christ to redeem them from their sins, so this grace has been afforded equally to all, both Jews and Gentiles and it contradicts “election unto salvation” as taught by Calvin. #2. verse 12; Adam brought sin that caused death entered into the world, for that all men sinned thus the wages of sin is death(Rom6:23) #3. verse 17; Death is here personified, and is represented as reigning over the human race; and death, of course, reigns unto death; he is known as reigning, by the destruction of his subjects. Shall reign in life - Those who receive, retain, and improve the abundant grace offered by Jesus Christ, shall be redeemed from the empire of death, and exalted to the throne of God, to live and reign with him ever, world without end. See Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:6; Revelation 2:7, Revelation 2:10, Revelation 2:11; Revelation 3:21. For as the disobedience of the first Adam is meritoriously imputed to all his natural posterity, and brings death upon all; so the righteousness of the second Adam is meritoriously imputed to all his spiritual progeny, to obtain life for them. As the carnal Adam, having lost original righteousness, derives a corrupt nature to all that descend from him: so the spiritual Adam, having, by his obedience, purchased grace for us, conveys a vital efficacy unto us. #5. verse 19; . That Adam's sin was disobedience, disobedience to a plain and express command: and it was a command of trial. The thing he did was therefore evil because it was forbidden, and not otherwise; but this opened the door to other sins, though itself seemingly small. The nature of Christ's righteousness, how it is brought in; it is by his obedience. The disobedience of the first Adam ruined us, the obedience of the second Adam saves us,-his obedience to the law of mediation, which was that he should fulfill all righteousness, and then make his soul an offering for sin. There is a free gift come upon all men, that is, it is made and offered promiscuously to all. This free gift is to all believers, upon their believing, unto justification of life. It is not only a justification that frees from death, but that entitles to life. The above bible disproves the doctrine of Calvinism on limited atonement and unconditional election. Any comment from Calvinists, supported by bible verses are cordially welcomed. Thank you.

I'm a new believer who is confused. Do we have free will? Has God predestined some to heaven and some to hell? If so why evangelize?

Why do all the Armenians leave of the first sentence of 2 Peter 3:9. The promise is that He WILL save His people not MIGHT save! If Almighty God is not willing that any will perish, then none will perish. He WILL save His sheep! What is His promise? Mathew 1:21

My primary issue with this is found at 17:10 - the all-too-common language used by Calvinists that any theological position other than clearly articulated Calvinism is precarious at best or damning at worst. If you're not a Calvinist or don't adequately understand Calvinism, you might as well be one of those crazy Jehovah's Witnesses or one of those crazy Buddhists! If Calvinism is true, the idea that any misunderstanding of grace or divine sovereignty can "wreck grace" is nonsensical. The elect, regenerate Arminian (or Wesleyan, or Molinist, or Thomist...) who never learns anything other than what they were raised with is not at risk. Perfect theology is neither a prerequisite nor a reliable fruit of salvation.

@apologiastudio why not mark the heretic Todd White? aside from that great word praise God!

The Bible is clear that Jesus died for the sins of everyone... He doesn’t pick certain people to go to Heaven and pick certain people to go to hell because He desires all to come to know Him. If Jesus chooses who goes to Heaven and hell and no one has the free will to choose Him, then that means we are all robots and He loves certain people more than others which is unBiblical. It wouldn’t be loving for God to force people to go to hell and never give them the chance to get to know Him.

Send Jeff more money. He need a nice scarf to go with those fine threads.

John 6:37 is speaking of shepherd care, not election to salvation.

Why do you preach to everyone then? Whatever will be will be.

Any ‘teacher’ who teaches that God *only* reveals Himself to people through the Bible are discredited to me. The creator of the universe is not bound by the covers of a book.

So basically we are to preach the Gospel to ALL of creation even though God will never allow most of them who have been preached to, to be saved and come to knowledge of the truth? Makes perfect sense - NOT

Predestination is NOT about the salvation of lost about the salvation of lost people. It’s about the guaranteed future of SAVED people. Predestination is mentioned 4 times in the Bible in 3 separate verses and NOT ONCE IS IT REFERRING TO SALVATION. In each case the passage clearly says WHO is being predestinated and TO WHAT they are being predestinated to. Predestination doesn’t speak to who is saved or not. Rather, it speaks to the ‘DESTINY’ of those who ARE SAVED/elect. It speaks to God’s ENDS for the elect who are ALREADY IN CHRIST THROUGH FAITH (Believers). It is the BELIEVERS who are the ones who love God, and who are therefore foreknown by Him. IN CHRIST they possess redemption and the forgiveness of sins by faith. BELIEVERS are predestined by God. *****It does NOT say that unbelievers are predestined TO BE believers.***** In all those passages ask your self WHO is being predestined and WHAT are they being predestined to? **Not once is it an unbeliever.** **Not once is it predestined to salvation.** BELIEVERS are predestined to inherit salvation, to be justified and to be brought into glory. If there remains a veil over the hearts of the Jews for failing to see Christ in the Scriptures, why should we think that the same veil would not also blind those who teach a primary Election APART from Jesus? ************************************ Reformers believe that the FINAL DESTINATION of election is to BECOME in Christ, whereas scripture says that the SOURCE of election is IN CHRIST. With respect to salvation in Christ, predestination speaks not to WHO will be among the elect, but to WHAT GOD’S ULTIMATE PURPOSES ARE FOR THOSE WHO ARE ELECT IN CHRIST. It was never about what we have in the Father INDEPENDENT of the Son. It’s all about HIS SON. It’s all about CHRIST. CHRIST IS THE ELECT ONE. We are merely elect BASED UPON OUR ASSOCIATION AND IDENTIFICATION WITH CHRIST! It’s IMPOSSIBLE to be elect before we have any identity with Christ. THAT WOULD USURP CHRIST! *********************************** **God has sovereignly decreed to choose for salvation, only those who would repent and put their faith in Christ.** Election is that you are chosen IN Christ (Ephesians 1:4), and that IN CHRIST you have an eternally predestined inheritance, for all that which God the Father has sovereignly bestowed IN HIS SON. **There’s no inheritance before or apart from Christ because your inheritance is contained WITHIN Christ. “It is IN HIM that we have been chosen and predestined (Eph 1:4-5), just as it is IN HIM that we have been seated in heavenly places (Eph 2:6-7). This means that JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF is the chosen one, the predestined one. Whenever one is incorporated into Him by grace THROUGH FAITH, then and ONLY THEN does one come to share in Jesus’ special status as chosen of God.

Here are 35 truths in that destroy Calvinism.... 1. Scripture is from God and God cannot lie. (2 Tim. 3:16; Tit. 1:2) 2. Predestination is of existing saints to adoption/glorification, not sinners to conversion. (Eph. 1:5, 11; Rom. 8:23, 29-30) 3. Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28) 4. Adoption is the future redemption of the body, not conversion. (Rom. 8:23, 15-17; Gal. 4:1-6) 5. Sinners become sons of God through the new birth, not through adoption. (John 1:12-13) 6. There are 2 callings: Gospel and vocational, not inward or outward or effectual or ineffectual, etc… (2 Thess. 2:14; Eph. 4:1; Rom. 8:28; 2 Cor. 5:20) 7. Christ’s life, not his death is what saves. (Rom. 5:10; 1 Cor. 15:17) 8. Sinner is saved by regeneration, not atonement. (Tit. 3:5) 9. Glorification is what’s limited, not atonement. (Rom. 3:23; 8:17-30) 10. When Christ said, “It is finished,” on the cross, everyone was still in their sins as per 1 Cor. 15:17. 11. Atonement is one component of many components in salvation. It alone is not what saves. (Tit. 3:5; Rom. 5:10) 12. Atonement is a prerequisite for salvation, not the execution of it. (Rom. 5, 8; 2 Cor. 5; Tit. 3:5). 13. The Atonement must be received. (Rom. 5:11, 17; Jn. 1:12; 1 Cor. 15:1-4) 14. The Atonement does not glorify anyone. (Rom. 8) 15. What Calvinists call “the golden chain of redemption” contains no direct reference to the atonement. (Rom. 8:29-30) 16. Belief that salvation for anyone was secured on the cross constitutes a denial of the necessity of the resurrection (1 Cor. 15:17) 17. Salvation is eternally secured by the sealing of the spirit, not “election.” (Eph. 1:13-14; 4:30; 2 Cor. 1:22) 18. There is no sealing of the spirit before Pentecost or after the harpazoof the church. (Eph. 4:30; John 14:17; Heb. 6:4-6; 10:26-29) 19. There are two aspects to salvation: presence/effects of sin and lack of glorification. Nothing that eradicates sin glorifies the sinner. Both aspects must be resolved for salvation to occur. (Rom. 3:23; 5:8; 8:17-30) 20. Conviction of the Holy Spirit is necessary for salvation, but occurs to sinners alike, regardless of consequent faith or unbelief. It is not irresistible or unconditionally selective. (Jn. 16:7-11) 21. Grace is a ubiquitous reality, not a selective force. (Tit. 2:11-13) 22. Grace is just fine on it’s own as it’s found in scripture. Any modifier other than “free,” such as “sovereign,” “irresistible,” or “prevenient” indicate someone is either confused or attempting to confuse. (Rom. 3:24; 5:15; Jn. 1:16; Tit. 2:11-13) 23. ”Die(d) to save” is not a Bible phrase or concept. It is therefore senseless to pit it against “died to make men savable” since the premise is false to start with. This false dichotomy indicates confusion about what saves. 24. Sinners are born of God by the will of God after they receive Christ. (Jn. 1:12-13) 25. Monergism/Synergism is a false dichotomy invented in the 1890s. Calvinists are synergists based on their own definitions of these terms. 26. God is pleased to save those that believe, not cause belief in those he saves. (1 Cor. 1:21; Rom. 10:9-10) 27. Free gift unto justification of life to all men must be received. It’s not “universalism” unless irresistible grace supplants the biblical requirement to receive. (Rom. 5:11-18; Jn. 1:12; 1 Cor. 15:1-4) 28. “Foreknow” is being known by God in the sense of Gal. 4:9 after conversion and before glorification as if already glorified. It does not refer to any time prior to conversion. (Gal. 4:8-9; Rom. 8:29-30; 1 Pet. 1:2) 29. Nobody was “in Christ” before the foundation of the world. Nobody was “in Christ” before they were placed in Christ during their lifetime. (Eph. 1:4; 2:12; Rom. 12:5; 6:3: 16:7; 1 Cor. 12:13, 27) 30. Free will or lack thereof (or lack of a type of it, such as libertarian) is not a proper interpretive preconsideration. Scriptural authority is the one and only concern, irrespective of the implications to man’s will. (Pro. 30:5) 31. Unbelief condemns a person, not because it is an unforgiven sin, but because it is the exclusive point of access to the grace. (Rom. 5:2) 32. Arminianism is a branch of Calvinistic thinking, and it is wrong for all the same reasons that Calvinism is wrong. 33. Israel is who’s being hardened in Romans 9. The recipients of mercy are identified in Romans 11:32. 34. The Holy Spirit is the only member of the trinity who doesn’t draw in the New Testament. (Jn. 6:44; 12:32) 35. God’s sovereignty in salvation means that he executes it in accordance with Scripture and not in accordance with Hindu Fatalism.

If we are Predestined then there is no need for preaching or evangelism. Predestination in the terms that God has chosen us before the earth ever was. Is there predestination? yes and no. God the Father Knows from beginning to the end and he knew this before the earth ever was. If he knew before anything was created that means nothing can change from what he knew since that would constitute a lack of knowledge if anything changed. In the Bible the Bible talks about God changing his mind or answering prayers. How can God change his mind? If God changes his mind is he changing it from what he Knew before? So if God knows from beginning to end, then he creates and comes upon a certain point in time and changes his mind. Is he actively changing his mind from what he knew in that moment? No, that would mean he did not know from beginning to the end. So he must have known he would change his mind. If he knew he would change his mind then not only does he know every action we will take he also knows his every response and action he will take. In this life it seems that every moment is brand new. But for God this is nothing but a replay. For him it has literally all already happened and every prayer answered and every change of his mind happened before anything was created. This would be why The Father brought forth Jesus from himself and had Christ create the world because it would be Christ who ultimately would have to go into creation to save us. Now does this mean we are all Predestined for heaven or hell? yes and no. when you say Predestined most think of something happening without a person's will or choice. But that is wrong. You decide where you go. it is completely up to you. But God knows what YOU will choose. For example if I watch a Football game live and a couple days later my buddy has me over to watch the same game and he has not seen it yet. Just because I know the outcome of the game and I know everything that is going to happen. it does not constitute that I caused the players to do anything or not do something. To me it's just a replay of the free will choices and actions of the players on the field.

Every prophet/disciple/eyewitness that wrote the Bible was an elect obviously, because they were part of something big that had to happen by god. We are all chosen and have eternity planted in us that desire god it's our free will to live separate from him or submit to him. If god elected certain to go to heaven and some to hell like us today I would not worship him. 2 Corinthians 5:15 and that he died for all, that they which should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again

Don't you find it strange when a reformer is applauded for preaching a 'calvinistic' sermon and yet Id' rather hear a Christian sermon! Duh, reformeres are wacked!

To convince people of Calvinism, you have to start by convincing them that "my" depiction gives Him greater glory, and that anything else is man centred and they're trying to become gods themselves. You first shame them, by falsifying their view, then you cherry pick verses out of their context and tell everyone what those verses mean. It's a pick and twist procedure. I hope he's just deceived and not purposely trying to deceive.

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Durbin needs to spend more time working on his look and less on his message.

Textbook echo chamber of delusional self-proclaimed "predestined" people.... Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?" Not this pastor!

Man I like this guy he is a good preacher and sounds like he has read Johnathon Edwards. I have been asleep for 10 years and found this man preaching and he was used to shake me.