Phillip Scott reports on Cam'ron creating more conversation on the Black American identity conversation by stating we're not African. Cam'ron also claims Africans don't like Black Americans.
I feel the same way. I love my African ancestry but it seems disingenuous to identify as African. My ethnic group is Black American. My experience is just so different.
These people that come over here from Africa .and other countries that look like us don't even like black Americans yes I am a black American I'm proud. But then they find out they are nothing but n***** too when they get that wake up. 😔🤦🏽♀️🙆🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
I agree with this man, I'm an " Black American ". An African American to me is a person who was born and raised in Africa, but became an American citizen.
But your roots are African. Your DNA is African. The term American is a made-up term, named and created by those who murdered and killed for that land. The term American has blood 🩸 on its name. Innocent people were killed, raped and oppressed for that name to exist and this is the name you fight so hard to be labelled. How foolish and ignorant. Instead of fighting to unite with your African brothers and sisters, you would rather fight to identify with your oppressor. “Malcolm X” would be turning in his grave right now.
Sorry Africa is a nice place would love to visit. I think it's alot of our people in Africa but to be honest Africa done nothing for us to be honest. Also I'm not expecting nothing from America or Africa. But yes we are not African Americans sorry. We been here since the 1600's and maybe a little later. Nothing African about us. But yes Africa our ancestors land for sure.
You think Africa owes you something? We have our own problems do you know that Apartheid(Jim crow) only ended in 1994 in South Africa, do you know Sudan got it's independence in the 2000's? What did you do for us during those times?
Wow! People really don’t read enough. There’s a powerful saying if you let an uneducated person speak long enough, they will display their brain capacity.
@@shayababibiyela6754 Africa owes us everything! You would still be getting openly slaughtered if fba's didn't speak out against it! You would not be allowed to flee your failed countries if fba's didn't create a lane for you. You wouldn't have a culture to copy and cosplay if fba's didn't create one. Africans and caribbeans would be completely irrelevant without fba's ✊🏿💪🏿🤴🏿🇺🇲
@@shayababibiyela6754no you don't owe us a damn thing. And we don't owe you a damn thing stay where you are make your country better and we'll stay where we are. Stay where you are we would be happy
As a Black American, I think it's a shame we have to split hairs this way. What other group has to do that? Most acknowledge their herritage (if they know it) and move on.
Nope it’s time for black Americans to be properly identified. Black Americans are indigenous to America. Black American great grandparents said nothing about Africa.
@@williammckinney567My Grandparents Never said anything about being Indigenous to this land. Quit acting like All of our older generation said we are Indigenous to America when that’s a Bold Faced Lie period Smdh
Truth. These Italian mobsters proudly trace their lineage back to Italy and in fact you can’t even join/advance in their ranks if they can’t connect your father’s lineage back there.
@@user-wx2jh6ss9jbiden is Irish American… Trump is a German America… Barack was from Kenyan origin… do their birth certificates also say so? Why cant one be both black and african american since both terms are accurate… likewise one is also american as a national or citizen…
But your roots are African. Your DNA is African. The term American is a made-up term, named and created by those who murdered and killed for that land. The term American has blood 🩸 on its name. Innocent people were killed, raped and oppressed for that name to exist and this is the name you fight so hard to be labelled. How foolish and ignorant. Instead of fighting to unite with your African brothers and sisters, you would rather fight to identify with your oppressor. “Malcolm X” would be turning in his grave right now.
👑👑👑It’s the Most High God of Israel stirring up the minds of his people to bethink ourselves here in the land of our enemies and remember who we really are and come back to our God👑👑👑 1 Kings 8:47 Yet if they shall bethink themselves in the land whither they were carried captives, and repent, and make supplication unto thee in the land of them that carried them captives, saying, We have sinned, and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness; 1 Kings 8:48 And so return unto thee with all their heart, and with all their soul, in the land of their enemies, which led them away captive, and pray unto thee toward their land, which thou gavest unto their fathers, the city which thou hast chosen, and the house which I have built for thy name: Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
Africans are Hamites, we are not them and they are not us. 2 different bloodlines. People don’t sell their own people as slaves to Yte people. Do you see Africans living in the hoods with American blacks ? You never hear about an African get shot down police ..
Other black Americans went over there and ended up deleted. No one knows what will happen here or over there. And why Africans doesn’t have a problem with the Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians not calling themselves Africans. Why do Africans think we black Americans should accept Africans Americans. My race/ethnicity is that I AM A BLACK AMERICANS. When we were saying we are Africans they would say no you’re not Africans. Crayon or not I am a black American. On jobs applications you can choose between African American or black American and I always choose Black American.
Facts they are so ignorant. Everytime I talk to them the ignorant racism they have, or tribalism, whatever they have going on just oozes out naturally. They have no idea what they be talking about half of the time either.
This is one of the dumbest statement I hear you guys say. This is a pure lie. If Africans always talk bad about you, why do they treat you right when you go over there? They keep dividing us and we keep falling for it. Sometimes I feel we may never ever be free with them folks
@@youth-tube6744 I live overseas at the moment. Been travelling the world since 2005. The disrespect they have for my people is amazing. You definitely have great Africans but, their cultural history of tribalism and selling out is deeply rooted. We ain't them and they love telling white folk that. Facts!
Phil, when we practice flat blackness, all other Blacks benefit without the same level of suffering for rights here in America...... FBA must delineate. Let them see for themselves!
Benefit off what? I literally see no structural benefits And what coalition are you going to use to get this past? White people didn't use to consider Irish and Italian white until they needed them because they were losing the demographic battle
Alot of blacks that come here are not lazy free loaders. You guys are just jealous. Blacks that come here don't wanna be called Black Americans anyway. You can keep that. We still love ya'll cuz the white power structure hate blacks regardless of where they are from.
@@uchennakpaduwa9592 Where do you live? I believe the OP is referring to life in America. If you are a melanated person residing in America then you benefit off of Black Americans simply by your ability to be here.
@@uchennakpaduwa9592 Immigration from Africa and other 'black' countries was on the books illegal until Freeman/Freedman fought for the Immigration Rights Bill that allowed you to even stand IN this country (if you are) and make that ridiculous statement. Almost all companies were virtually 100% socalled white male workers and executives until Freeman/Freedman fought, bled and died for rights to access these jobs, grants and loans that ALL socalled blacks were beforehand denied! The fact that you make that statement, "benefit off what" shows the problem when people come after all the fighting is done and blood spilled, and the smoke has cleared and agreements made - once the table is set....here you all come and sit down at the set table talking about, 'what benefits'??
Black American / African Descendant. My family’s been in this country since the late 1600s early 1700s . When it comes to American politics and what’s effecting me in America I’m Black American. I still consider myself to be apart of the global Black African community.
But your roots are African. Your DNA is African. The term American is a made-up term, named and created by those who murdered and killed for that land. The term American has blood 🩸 on its name. Innocent people were killed, raped and oppressed for that name to exist and this is the name you fight so hard to be labelled. How foolish and ignorant. Instead of fighting to unite with your African brothers and sisters, you would rather fight to identify with your oppressor. “Malcolm X” would be turning in his grave right now.
👑👑👑It’s the Most High God of Israel stirring up the minds of his people to bethink ourselves here in the land of our enemies and remember who we really are and come back to our God👑👑👑 1 Kings 8:47 Yet if they shall bethink themselves in the land whither they were carried captives, and repent, and make supplication unto thee in the land of them that carried them captives, saying, We have sinned, and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness; 1 Kings 8:48 And so return unto thee with all their heart, and with all their soul, in the land of their enemies, which led them away captive, and pray unto thee toward their land, which thou gavest unto their fathers, the city which thou hast chosen, and the house which I have built for thy name: Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
How black Americans don't wanna be called African that shouldn't be a problem to Africans they don't do this with south Americans Jamaicans Haitians black Australians UK blacks or Canadian blacks lol just American blacks that's crazy when south Americans have most of the Atlantic slaves like 8% came to America majority of them are in South America go tell them how to identify not us tf
No, what’s sad is that so called Black Americans are trying to delineate in order to retain our ethnicity and cultural identity. This is not a diss to other black people globally. Black immigrant groups are allowed to celebrate their own unique identity, but when it comes to blacks born in America we get this rubbish. It’s not about race this is strictly about ethnicity.
As long as we choose to focus on petty differences about identity, about things that should not matter, we will continue to be dominated by WS. United we stand but divided we fall. J Edgar Hoover said that "Black unity is the greatest threat America faces". How long are we going to allow our enemies to keep us divided.
It is! I am a continental-born African. Up to 21 years of age, mostly raised in Sierra Leone with brief periods in the United Kingdom(UK). In the past 42.5 years, I spent 7 years in New York, NY. However, I moved to the UK in 1987 and still reside here. With all this said, I am still a "New Yorker"!
I am Black American. I am not against my African Brothers and Sisters , however, America is all I know, so I would prefer to be addressed as Black American.
But your roots are African. Your DNA is African. The term American is a made-up term, named and created by those who murdered and killed for that land. The term American has blood 🩸 on its name. Innocent people were killed, raped and oppressed for that name to exist and this is the name you fight so hard to be labelled. How foolish and ignorant. Instead of fighting to unite with your African brothers and sisters, you would rather fight to identify with your oppressor. “Malcolm X” would be turning in his grave right now.
I was said tht they Treat “ME” Right ?! Wht does it matter to Me right, then Treat MY PEOPLE Bad. If you have it to be treated a certain way as your pockets require, but pls don’t use your experience as OURS especially since We are not invested in their countries business/ tourism
African Americans fought for survival in this country's wars. FBI & Black Americans, did not exist at that time. You Sambos 🦧 will not steal the documented history of my African Ancestors and claim it for yourselves. Nah bruh! Get outta here witdat!
I remember what Smokey Robinson said many years ago. He has been to many countries in Africa. He enjoyed many of tribal traditions. The decendants of West African Slaves are unique,they have their own culture and traditions and contributed much to the building of America. So "Say it loud I'm Black and I'm proud"- James Brown.
Sir Jam - Africa don’t care much for Smokey. If he don’t want to associate, this means zero for Africa. Africa embraces those who want to be embraced. Africa ain’t gonna lose sleep over Smokey. James Brown enjoyed being in Africa and partied with brothers and sisters in Zaire.
Neither is Smokey Robinson. I personally revere many of the ethnicties, cultures and countries of Africa. Find someone else to have an attitude with. I'm on my way to a funeral. Life is short. @@dikembeafrika8918
I’m FBA/Freedman/Black American.I give honor to my Ancestors that fought and survived the plantations in the killing fields of North America. I have no love for the bastards that sold my folks into slavery,nor launched any attempt to rescue the people who were taken. The GREATEST THING to ever come out of Africa was us. They are our cousins,but any relationship is going to have to meet halfway.
Those african leaders don't say anything when their own people are mistreated by other countries. They're stance and behavior in my opinion is of a very cowardly nature.
@toddholland7511 What about those whose family members were taken away? There was the Kru and Baga, who fought against the slave trade. What about Yaa Asantewaa? Forget all of them too?
@@BeeBee-wu1fz yes you are correct let also look at our own backyard what is the NAACP doing for black apart from nothing? It don’t matter where Negros are located we all have similar characteristics the only difference is culture.
@BeeBee-wu1fz The NAACP has filled a lawsuit in Mississippi on behalf of the families of hundreds of bodies of Black people discovered to have been buried in unmarked graves behind a jail outside of Jackson, Mississippi. I would hardly call this nothing
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne You must be talking about yourself cause for one his name is not Jesus Christ. There was no letter J during his lifetime. Also, how I choose to identify as is not taking any years off your life so you could've kept your insignificant comment to yourself.
My thing is we need to stop being slaves and using the terms our colonizers have fashioned for us. We should at barr minimum come together and create a label we and only we can associate with because neither "Black" or "American" doesnt cut it
@noirsake8057, People who believe what the person above posted are not the sharpest tool in the shed. I am black American of African descent. DNA does not lie regardless of how much you want it to.
I' stand with you Cam"Ron I'd rather be called black American than African American because we are not all African!! and no one can school me on where my ancestors came from except for my grandparents and so on and it's not Africa I have no hate against Africa in any kind of way
Yeah I feel the same as Cam'ron. Jamaicans don't go around calling themselves African Jamaicans. Why should FBAs do the same? Our people haven't lived in Africa for half a millennia. The countries in Africa now didn't even exist when our people were on the continent 500 years ago. We are our own ethnic group with our own culture like everybody else.
💯 nonsense you are talking caribbeans are Caribbean but we do not separate from africa at all,this rivalry you have with the motherland we don't have these issues sorry,i was born in america but i was raised in the caribbean we have great relations with africa
@@PrezidentJafarthis disconnect with Africa is a recent occurrence probably planted by some three letter group. Washitaw non sense and Dane colloway and others like this are the main perpetrators of this non sense. Now you have people like Tariq Nasheed and Tone talks crafting a narrative around that confusion, placing divides amongst the diaspora and disconnecting from Africa.
and what is your point?...Jamaicans don't have state their affiliation to africa on any form of documentation,ask any black Jamaican they will never deny their connection to the motherland like black americans do...and those are facts sir
We are actually displaced Africans. Our ancestors were stolen and trafficked from the African continent. So we have a good case with the world courts in regard to reparations.
@@williammckinney567Actually, it has yet to be debunked, or disproven. My ancestry has been traced back to several countries in Africa & I’m born & raised Black American descendant of slaves & Proud✊🏾👊🏾🇺🇸
This topic in my opinion too often tends to paint us FBA's as some how the main perpetrators of the division. As Phil said most of our history we've identified by race, not by nationality, not by ethnicity. What we learned is that this is the exact opposite of what these other non-American groups who migrate here practice. So now we're doing the same as everyone else, and I'm tired of us being labeled as divisive for just following what everyone else is doing. I'm no longer going to listen to some non-American complaining about FBA's being divisive until they show me that they've had these discussions with people other than FBA's and with their own groups...
Genetically African yes culturally no. I’m American that’s what my passport says. Jamaicans are not called “African Jamaicans” also we should be proud as black Americans of our history, because people are freezing to death to stay here and be called An American.
As people born on this land for generations with our own distinct culture, I think it’s important to recognize and acknowledge who we are specifically. The last sentence is a major gaslight
@@ekfreeman1 They won’t either! They are NOT indigenous and aren’t accepted as being so. The indigenous are held at gun point and forced to accept them on their land.
@@tyiingram9878 What is The Distinct Culture of so-called "African Americans" ? A byproduct of White Culture ? "You cannot revolt against a people whose values you share." - Dr. Amos N. Wilson
Cam’ron is right I was told directly in a respectable way by someone from Nigeria, Ghana, and Kenya that I’m not African you are a Black American you were Born In Americana
@@alkebulantoday5133 what’s your point exactly? What does being a slave have to do with being African? At the end of the day so-called black Americans have African DNA. They are of African descent. Cam’Ron sounds like an ignorant Rapper. He is using the Olympics to Justify his Argument. That’s so elementary.
You misunderstood yes we are African dissent . Black people were already in the Americans and other parts of the world . Do your research on indigenous people
You've never been to Africa. Because if you have, you'll understand they do that to anyone who isn't from there or who hasn't live there for a while. I'm African, grew up here and I get treated the same when I go back. I need to roll with a local so they can't do that to me. It's not a targeted thing for certain group.
Please let's not generalize here because we are going to end up sounding ignorant, Africa has 54 countries. Two or three countries in Africa you have visited do not represent the rest.
So Africans should go and unite with any race. This is to me a hate against Africans. Stick to yourselves and let us do our thing. Well done black Americans. We are here to stay and do our thing.
We are the Only Black People that except being Black. Ask other Blacks in different Geographical Areas if they're Black, the Answer is NO. Im Dominican, i'm, Jamaican , Im Nigerian, I'm Ethiopian, i'm this , i'm that, but not Black.
This is why I believe everyone should stay in their own countries & Own Cultures for the most part. If Caribbeans and Africans stop fleeing we wouldnt have all this confusion in America. I'm honestly getting tired of everyone being "Black" because now its really a trend to be..
Due to apartheid I can tell you 100% that all Black South Africans, identity as Black South Africans, down to our paper work. So it differs from country to country, especially based on those people history. However I get Cam'ron and I agree with him, you guys are Black Americans!
And Cam is from Harlem, the “Pan African “ headquarters. He know what’s up. Black Americans from other states jumped on the bandwagon all late and is keeping the narrative alive, and they weren’t even around any Africans. I always said it’s going to take a Harlem native to clear this sh!t up. Some of us actually know more foreigners than actual Black Americans., if anybody recognizes the difference it’s us (New Yorkers) Cam is in his late 40s born and raised in NYC. He lived his whole life being the only black American in many situations. Then he became a hip hop star, traveling the world way before social media. I love Cam for keeping it real and not tip toeing around the truth. He’s a good source and a stand up man. He could of easily fronted like a lot of them do.
He was culturally raised around that. Just like the Latinos in nyc saying the N word all day. Black Americans from other states don’t understand how we allowed it, but we was all born into this sh!t in nyc. That’s my point. Still doesn’t change his experience and who he is. We all had to survive in our environment. Cam is telling you from his own mouth what it is. Besides, we’re talking about African descendants. Him knowing some Spanish words, having some Spanish swag and flking on Spanish joints during a time in hip hop when Latinos was preferred doesn’t change anything he said. Black Americans in nyc will claim the smallest percentage of anything just to fit in at one time. A lot of black Americans from nyc are more socially connected to Latin culture than their own southern roots. I don’t think most black peoples understand how culture and migration works. That’s why this topic is like filling a bucket with a hole in it.
I'm a proud Jamaican. We as Jamaicans have generally always claimed Africa as the motherland. My nationality is Jamaican, I am of African descent so my DNA is African, however us as Afrro-Jamaicans have always saw ourselves as Black people long before the Black Americans called themselves Black and the claim it as a title for themselves. Don't get me wrong I love Black Americans but the truth is every BLACK MAN is an African by DNA, whether you are Haitian, Jamaican, Trinidadian or Black American. The thing is you have Black Jamaicans, Black Americans, Black Barbadians, Black British. We as a people don't know enough about each other and our ignorance of each other is our great weakness. Black people have different cultures because of the country they are from, however we need to be more understanding toward each other...
But your roots are African. Your DNA is African. The term American is a made-up term, named and created by those who murdered and killed for that land. The term American has blood 🩸 on its name. Innocent people were killed, raped and oppressed for that name to exist and this is the name you fight so hard to be labelled. How foolish and ignorant. Instead of fighting to unite with your African brothers and sisters, you would rather fight to identify with your oppressor. “Malcolm X” would be turning in his grave right now.
You're not black you are brown, you are not American thats a name that derives from an Italian map maker. Cam ron made a alid point though about the olympics and world stage
@@iaintmadatcha Isaiah 1:3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider. 👑 we the only people that don’t know who we are, you can’t make this ish up and my people don’t even consider at all who they truly are
But your roots are African. Your DNA is African. The term American is a made-up term, named and created by those who murdered and killed for that land. The term American has blood 🩸 on its name. Innocent people were killed, raped and oppressed for that name to exist and this is the name you fight so hard to be labelled. How foolish and ignorant. Instead of fighting to unite with your African brothers and sisters, you would rather fight to identify with your oppressor. “Malcolm X” would be turning in his grave right now.
We are what our DNA not what a society says that’s not how dna works! It doesn’t just change because you don’t like the background story. We are Africans just born in America.
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne Black Americans are the descendents of those Men and Women brought to this country or captured in this country that initially built this country. We're a part of the African diaspora like all other Africans but culturally we are really our own thing.
That is a lie from the mouth of the European. You're only American by the National government. You have been in Africa for thousands of years. The time you have been in America you have been replenished with African blood until the 1900's and present time. We are Royal Africans born in North, Central , and South America as well as adjoining islands. Stop letting the European label and divide you. The only American here is the Native American.
@@ocelotmetalIf he did, it would show: 1) Absolutely no African relatives on his list of cousin matches whatsoever (only low self-esteem Black Americans begin to panic at this point); 2) Cousin matches of predominantly other close/distant Black American relatives; 3) Cousin matches of distant W8t/Black American/European relatives; 4) POTENTIAL cousin matches of distant Afro-Caribbean/Latin American relatives; 5) Likely Small bits of DNA from Thai-Cambodian-Indonesian-Philippine sources; 6) Likely small bits of DNA from Indigenous American sources; 7) An ethnicity estimate of African nations involved in a bunch of things he cannot identify with, such as, kidnapping, raping, and trying to force 300 of their own country-women to convert to their religion, civil wars and bombing campaigns against one another, cannibalism during such civil wars like what happened in Sierra Leone and Liberia. Genocide where approximately 1 million people perished like in Rwanda (Hutus vs Tutsis). The eating of dogs, monkeys, maggots and/or worms as a diet staple like in Malawi and other nations. Coup de etats in most African nations since the 1950's independence movements. Contemporary slavery by selling $400.00 a piece for Black Africans kidnapped after trying to flee from Libya to Italy across the Mediterranean. Why not go to those ports where the heavily armed slave traders are, and announce you're a proud Black African? He'd realize they're involved in the forced genital mutilation of their female counterparts to force Islam upon them. He probably couldn't identify with the butchering of the albino community to use their body parts for incantations and food. I seriously doubt he'd be psychologically prepared for that; 8) The small print that allows him to know the DNA test is for entertainment only; 9) The estimate is just an estimate; 10) And he may have to get the results from his enemies.
Alot of people dont realize blk people were already here BEFORE slavery..... so i dont have a problem with what hes saying. Many came on ships as well (as the book of Deuteronomy says) but we have history right here as well. Look at the name Tuscaloosa, Alabama which means BLACK WARRIOR why do you suppose that is? Many cities have blk referenced names
I agree, but my conflict is continuing in the name of our colonizers . America derives from Amerigo Vespucci an Italian mapmaker. If some of us were here before him which I agree why call ourselves after a guy that never had our peoples best interest at heart just because he named the land? What was the land called by our ancestors ?
I will always refer to myself as an African American. My DNA traces back to the homeland. Even though I don’t know the exact pin point of the county, I will not deny where my ancestors came from no matter how long we have been on this continent.
Do you know your lineage here? Your family worked hard to build this land and they most likely identified as black or negro. I continue with the term of being Black American. The African American term came about during the 80s with Jessie Jackson as the government mass replaced black Americans with Caribbean and other people from the diaspora in the political arena to quell our voices.
I get your point… you’re speaking facts because all of the other nations know who we are. We need to know who we are…we are treated badly everywhere on earth at the end of the day.
Nah but people still come from other places and treat the black people here the same if not worse than the ray cysts that's already here so I respectfully disagree. FBA all day. 😌
@@knstp04391 I don't have any self hatred whatsoever. The fact that you go out of your way to put words in my mouth for making an objective observation is self telling. Like a projection.
@@614GTRjr there is no way you can seriously argue that African immigrants treat FBAs worse than Yt racists. This indicates that you have self hate because you’re projecting something that white /arab/asians do onto Africans which is our own bloodline. It’s a ridiculous statement lol they don’t even have the power to oppress on that lvl, Asians own the restaurants and various stores (hair/nail) Arabs own the corner stores, hair stores, yts own the country. What do Africans own in America over FBAs to oppress worse? This diaspora war stuff is so remedial and childish grow up
At this point isn't it just semantics? As a Nigerian American myself who is raising his consciousness. Isn't what matters is that we are from the same ilk and that we will show up for one another? Male, Female, Africans, Caribbeans, foundational Black Americans. We all have our misguided ways that contribute to the community’s dysfunction. But how sweet it would be when we can all see that we are ONE and are willing to die for one another as our forefathers have done in the past. Let us not have them die in vain. We must finish their work! Now is the time.
As a Kenyan, I actually agree that "African Americans" should identify themselves as Black Americans. I understood this concept from a more technical standpoint considering people like Elon Musk and Charlize Theron could also identify themselves as white "African Americans", considering they are South Africans with American citizenship. What I don't get are the sudden rise in insults from FBAs towards Africans on the internet.
@@alexskatit4188He doesn't really, you are deluding yourself. Africa is the oldest continent in the world, I can tell you as a black south african, we don't care about what you identify as, just be pro black and have the mindset that you want what's best for all black people.
If “Americans” of European descent are not required to hyphen their descendance, why then should the American of African descent? I’m with soul brother #1 (James Brown) on this one, I’m “Black.”
@@dwillz6648 That may be true, but many of them don't identify as black. they will identify as their ethnic group, for example many Somalians will not say that they are black, but they will say they are Somali. Black Americans have the same right to identify as our ethnic group. We are not the same ethnically as other black people globally.
I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN, MY PEOPLE WERE KIDNAPED AND RAPPED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN - UNTIL I HAVE REPARATIONS AND LAND.. I AM NOT TRULY AN AMERICAN FOR ME NOT TO SAY AFRICAN AMERICAN.. WOULD BE TO WIPE AWAY MY AFRICAN FOREFATHERS AND MOTHERS LEGACY.. THEY ENDURED SO I COULD LIVE. CAMRON IS JUST ONE PERSON AND HE IS SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF.
Africans are Hamites, we are not them and they are not us. 2 different bloodlines. People don’t sell their own people as slaves to Yte people. Do you see Africans living in the hoods with American blacks ? You never hear about an African get shot down police ? If that’s our people why isn’t citizen ships are free in Africa ? ..
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8neWest Africans just became Christians and here you are talking down on us while using some imaginary religious character to compare us to. I thought you said you were educated.
It's crazy how other ethnicities wanna let you know who you are. But they don't want to acknowledge what their background is well all of it.. They'll skip over certain thing and just claim One side especially with some Caribbean people of Afro descent especially ones that speak spanish
It’s ok Phil with the cough. I’m an international English teacher and I speak all day. A cough can hit at anytime. Even if you aren’t ill. Your input is important. Keep going 💪🏽 ❤
Many Africans have European, Arab & Asian DNA. What is this whole unique thing? The EU DNA came from rape. Part of your ancestors were guilty of enslaving the other. Do you see how that complicates reparations? 🤔
Just because we are Melionated don't make us all the same! That is limited thinking all black people are only from Africa that insane because I'm sure that I am not native I am Choctaw and Blackfeet my people have been here for ions but just because that's my background and reality doesn't mean that that is someone else's heritage, race, or nationality!! I honor everyone's life story.... even Elon Musks African American self!!! Lol
@typhoomantis1172 I don't care. If you don't have a history and know your culture before slavery, any fool 'rapper' can just say anything, and those blind sheep will claim it as biblical. Educated Americans who are black don't have a victim mindset to use color to identify themselves. If we don't call white folks, white Americans, why call yourself black American? Is it because you see yourself inferior enough not to simply call yourself American? It's 2024, use your common sense, and not what any rapper says, who no one in Africa knows or cares about.
This nonsense keeps us divided along with people in the comment section. No matter what you say, you're not "Black," you are African, and just because our experiences are different, it doesn't change the fact we all were enslaved, and this is why I hate what happened to us.
I swear we have some of the most idiotic discussions in our culture. This remind me of the episode of the boondocks when the prison was taken over by the prisoners, and they had to negotiate terms. Everything that they listed had nothing to do with their freedom or better conditions of living in prison. It was all vain and superficial. Here, we are now talking about how we should have some ethnic identity distinction because we want to further ourselves from our African ancestry. This is dumb. It doesn't matter if they call us Black American or African American, we're still Americans because it is literally in the title. The people of Black Wallstreet didn't give a d@mn about their title, they cared about building and group economics. Something that Cam'ron doesn't care about because he loves snow bunnies, but that's beside the point. Whites take pride in being of Irish, German, Italian descent, so why are we so opposed to our ancestry? And don't claim that it's because Africans won't accept us because we rejected Africans by accepting the image of Africa that the Europeans created.
Yoooh guys I'm african born raised in South Africa Soweto, recently moved to Connecticut, I do think Killa Cam ain't wrong he is an black American, but also if another American black feels like he is african American his ok also, just remember this are just dum titled given to Blacks in America by whites, mind games, this typo topics are fruitless though, love you, in the USA for a year now, never had a Black American friend they like distancing themselves, i got good ties with Brazilians and Latinos, some how I feel like Latinos have this strong feeling of bn African than most of my Black American . With love Johannesburg South Africa
Culture is closer to the heart of the matter and closer than that is values. Younger generations talk about 'The Culture" but there is and has never been one culture - one way we all were? There is no one way of being 'Black". Hip-Hop is now the face of Black culture to the world. KRS-0ne has said "Hip-Hop should be an ethnicity within itself, yet that has been widely ignored by Hip-Hop and Black people in general. The 50 year anniversary celebration just ended and I did not hear any mention about this relatively recent statement by the person who is said to have codified Hip-Hop. One would think it merits as much discussion as the use of the n-word. We were forcibly both here divided by ethnicity, language, and culture and have become more so since, especially with all these new claims and calls for who we are, and what we should be called. FBA talk about we built the country. Are we the architects of it? Would we want to boast about that if we were? The pertinent point is what have any group among us built for themselves lately? The NOI don't even have their own communities. I heard of one attempt in Mississippi, and by the time the children were adults most Left the community and didn't come back to live there. It was an article in the Wash. Post, if I'm not mistaken. No doubt Black Christians would show to be the most prosperous demographic among us, if they all lived in the same communities. The Black Church is not as influential anymore because many of its members don't live in the communities the church is in. Some groups among us have made considerable progress, but it can't be measured, because we haven't built physical communities in the last century. Some call us "Family" but we don't function like one, and so certainly not on the broader level of a nation, which is what most of the rhetoric used by those speaking as if the represent all or most of us suggest, especially around the issue of reparations. It all equates to us gas-lighting ourselves.
@@johnstephanos1128Omg you people!! African is not a real ethnicity!!! It wasn't even originally called Africa. Them folks called it that nit original people of that land. So, why do y'all keep trying to label us African when those people didn't even call themselves African?
That's not an ethnnicity. Congrats on accepting the brainwash of slavemasters who denied your AFRICAN ancestors a right to remember their heritage. I bet you fight to use the N word too huh? lol.
@@-Tijani-You allowed your native continent to be colonized and exploited by your white massa, while your families flee to live in your white massa's homeland. Shut up neega
We are certainly Black Americans. If Africans born in Africa who now live in America are African Americans then surely we are the Black Americans. It has to be okay for us in all of this to have and maintain our own identity. We are a created race that has pioneered the soul and foundation of this country. I can love you like a brother and sister while overstanding that we are not the same. This decreases the hurt when we find as Black Americans that many aren’t messing with us on any level. But we’re just fine.✊🏾-- LaTaisha Nicole
@@paidamoyomakwiranzou2209 yeah but what will he identify as. I go to school with Africans that indeed call themselves African American. That’s precisely why I am not. I used to like the connection to the motherland that the name gave but when you learn how many of them in America want to be separate from us and then ca themselves us is seen as another way to undermine our struggle because you want our jobs and then opportunities so it’s okay if they mistake you for me as long as it comes with a check.
Although I am treated decently by many Nigerians, I am not African I am American. I am Black. I am a Black American, a Foundational Black American and I love my lineage.
I’m with Cam😎 Foundational Black [american]🤟🏾 We the Best!💪🏾 We’re smarter, better looking, stronger, wiser, better cultured, STRONGER and most feared✊🏾
OK, so let’s say we all agree to drop the term “African American” in favor of “Black American,” will somebody else (or the same people) be complaining once again in a few years about “Black America “ and demand a further refinement of the term? Are there other things more important that we should be focusing on than semantics?
Cam'ron was talking about Africans that migrate here they call us Yankees Akata and Jeriers. All derogatory terms, specifically for Black Americans! As if we ever wronged them.
American blacks' culture is very diverse, rich, and vast like many African cultures. FBA are American Indians, Pawmunkey, Cherokees, Choctaws, Black foot Indians, Geechee Gullah etc I believe it is left to the Indigenous Black folks of America to continue to amplify the culture to unravel this confusion and shadow created by WS for centuries.
@dogood2848 You do realize that Geechee Gullah ppl are direct descendants of enslaved West Africans from the Rice Coast aka the Windward Coast of Africa….They are Not Native American tribe & they are very Proud of their African ancestry. Also, the Chickasaw, Choctaw, Cherokee, Creek & Seminoles All owned Slaves, they subscribed to the same ideologies as the WM, quit glorifying those ppl. They don’t even acknowledge Black Seminoles still to this day. Yal just want to be anything other than descendants of Africans so bad….Most of this rhetoric is rooted in Anti-Blackness & Anti-Anything African😖
@kennystepn0439 the same people who lied to you all these years made up your DNA tests. You still believe in the Easter Bunny to. Oh I forgot, I can do my own research and learn my truth.
Im hurt that we have even divided ourselves like this. I was born in America yet, very soon I would like to find my way back home to mama Africa from where my ancestors were taken. They call out to me and I would want nothing more in this life time to be back in the land of my ancestors and to breathe the air, eat the fruits , the food and embrace the culture. I prAy to the universe, my ancestors and mami wata to help me return to my tribe and our true and only home. I pray that I am met with open arms and I know she is building a supportive and loving tribal home for me and my kin there. I pray you all find your way back home where we belong and unify together to fight the reAl culprit who created this mess. This American is ready to come back home , I hate it here. I am not apart of this foolishness ancestors, dont come for me. I enjoy and understand my birth right. Ase’
"I hate it here" ... and thats really what this conversation is about. Because this is the case for some theres a desire to be somewhere else and shed yourself of the place you hate and along with that place comes your identity .. black. The problem with this is that you desire to be African is rooted in your hate of this place and in this place you are black. Im not accusing you of hating being black but I kinda am, and you wouldn't be the only one because Pan-Africanism too is rooted in the idea that being black in America is something to disliked and to be escaped. This also explains why Africans in America dont want to be called black and why they take issue with us embracing being black American because its understood that being black American is something that is hated.
I had a feeling you'd get wind of Cam saying that. I watched the show live and when he said it I agreed and said to myself this will raise some eye brows 😂 salute to you bruh✊🏿
Black American or American is a better tittle because like Tariq Nasheed said “African American is a misnomer because a Nigerian or a white woman from South Africa can claim that title”. I don’t call myself an African Haitian or an African Brazilian.
Africans are Hamites, we are not them and they are not us. Hebrew descendents. 2 different bloodlines. People don’t sell their own people as slaves to Yte people. Do you see Africans living in the hoods with American blacks ? You never hear about an African get shot down police ? If that’s our people why isn’t citizen ships are free in Africa ? ..
I agree with him but what concerns me is based on the instagram link on the median income by the cultures like this Gambian woman and other West Africans chimed in bringing in this separatist mindset when they fled their country to come here to benefit from our blood sweat and tears. I don’t appreciate their haughty attitude like they are better than black Americans who suffered significantly. I do wish that Africans learn the history and our plight to gain understanding and knowledge instead of walking around ignorant.
Africans are very ignorant people. Having a conversation with them, especially their women is horrible. I see why they are in the F'd up conditions they are in
Phil good day to you and to all our family on the platform. Theres also a 'general caribbean culture', where similarly the music, food are largely influenced by the different african origins of the peoples.
Happy New Year 🕛 Thank you Mr. Phillip Scott, for educating on the nationalities, ethnicity, culture, race and groups to those who didn't know. BE BLESSED 🍀 you and your family. I will pray your strength to endure this podcast race. May your New Year be the best Year ever 👍
Why not just American.. Webster's dictionary 1828 AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.. cooper-colored is the blacks.. we've been lied to. we are the Originals. Pyramids in Mexico old as the ones in Africa built by us...Olmecs. Blacks have been here since before the Ice age. they are claiming your title American from Amaru-khan (Black Skin people) Phillip knows this
I know people will say I’m lying 😅 but as an African, I honestly don’t personally know ANY African who is opposed to AAs delineating. Most Africans would agree because AAs are indeed different. Why shouldn’t they say so? 🤔
You right phyllip, I did mention that to my spouse and someone I was dealing with about traveling, leave america because it's stressful staying hear going through oppression, living in destruction conditions, it does mess with my mental health I've been suffering for years to now like you said in your video and I said this before I hear you said it, that I need a break. what you said that's what I wanted and did years ago was walk away from family too and leave people behind, you are truly right what you said that the mess in america will stress us out and it has stress me the hell out that's why I want to travel.
