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grave titan isn't in the legacy deck list... despite being reanimated 4:33

Love your guys' content, but those decklists are not correct for what was played.

back in rakdos meta it wasnt just a single card that is honestly mostly a removal spell that turns into something grabbing your old atraxas you cast earlier from GY. back then there were full fledged normal reanimator decks abusing the cruelty of gix

I wouldn’t call it the best, and usually big dumb mythical that cost 373737 mana are in standard. Standard just can’t do anythjng with them most of the time

@@chaosky9 well I did say “one of the best” and not “the best”, but Atraxa does pitch to every non-red free spell

@@janmelantu7490 err i'm not sure they should even be running it, but hey sure they play it. Also why does it matter griselbrand and archon also pitch to every pitch spell the deck runs. People like to say atraxa gives more card selection then griselbrand i just fail to see how thats true, typically picking 4 from 10 is less then 14 from 14.

​@@chaosky9It's not uncommon to see FoW in Reanimator which is the big leg up it has. It draws far less than Grisel, but in theory it should be enough to setup your next turn and spin your wheels again.

Yoo first comment

Hopefully see you again on here in the future!

I think it would have been interesting seeing him get to 3 decks: like game one is a 1v1 game 2 is a 2v1 ect just to see how far it can go.

Keep up the great brews! We love seeing your crazy decks go off.

@@Herpderpthe4ththey do similar content for league of legends and StarCraft 2 e.g. can 1 pro player beat 3 diamonds etc

It's OK, I unmasked my opponent in the same turn 🤫 just pretend ilI did them in reverse. I'm not a legacy player 😅

​@CardmarketMagic Ahaha its okay you're just showing off a legacy deck that you probably never played before 😅😅

@@CardmarketMagic Wait maybe this is why the Legacy deck lost! Carl=bad? JK ofc

fnm only play

@@CardmarketMagicNice save! Was wondering about that, ngl, thankfully you had a good cover.

I'm happy you enjoyed it :D thank you! It means a lot

and even had to sacrifice one of their players to stem the tide :)

You cannot compare apples to Oranges

If carl utilized a full combo deck like cephalid breakfast instead of reanimator he could ve won against any number of standard decks

Any legacy deck that wins off of Thassa's Oracle

The cheapness of the legacy reanimation effects was insane. So much two mana reanimation!

Not saying that reanimator isn't good but they chose a matchup that would showcase what legacy can do but not be a blowout. For example, a delver deck isn't winning against 3 standard decks. It just isn't happening since it doesn't put out enough damage or 2 for 1 hard enough to outdo 3 standard decks. Reanimator can do big things but reanimator is susceptible to removal and doesn't win immediately. So when going up against 3 decks, reanimator 2 for 1s itself quite a bit to make its big plays go through. This works fine in 1v1 but a multiple opponent situation as we can see it isn't good at finishing the job. Whereas if it were a deck that uses any combo that wins against multiple opponents or really any strategy that affects all opponents at once, it'd be quite lopsided in the favor of the legacy deck. Elves would be pretty interesting as they can be reasonably interacted with but might be able to hit the ground running before enough removal hits them. After all, if reanimator goes off, they don't win. They have to outnumber the collective removal. Elves aren't 2 for 1ing themselves with trying to speed out getting rid of opponent interaction. Instead, they're just trying to go off and when they do it is often in a way that packs more punch and is harder to deal with than a single griselbrand. Not totally lopsided like breakfast and uses the board but showcases how just a few cards can completely change how a deck can run.

The raid format, I like it!

@@josuelservinArchenemy but not commander!

Except he didn't.... and therein lies the rub....

@@beerman2000 you must be real fun at fnm

I see. You're one of those. I should play your deck correctly FOR you so you don't have to be bothered with it yourself

@@beerman2000 lordy how do you not feel embarrassed to be posting right now

​@@HwahTVWhat's embarrassing is that 204 people so far, probably 500 when it's all said and done, agree with the comment as if we should all lower our standards and not care about playing correctly. This isn't commander.

sure but nice snuff out on 4 life when your opponents know you don't have any in your hand

They can't play it with only 4 life left without dying so either should be fine

thoralf had a yotian frontliner after the sunfall so it didn't matter

Also they missed a gain 3 life on the second archon he reanimated. When he was at 9 he should have gone to 12

also he just can´t target himself with grief as it says target opponent

After sunfall griselbrand must return to his owner, what did i miss?

@@12Pitt12 does sunfall exile enchantments too? Quite op

It was 2 years for ever, and I'd be wildly surprised if it doesn't go back to 2 in the next rotation :)

​@@CardmarketMagicinteresting, so you are putting something untrue in the video because you are confident it will eventually be true? Bold move

@mayorwestcsgo9923 don't be pedantic please, you and I both know that, to most people, standard means a two year rotation :) it's not because wotc is trying something new that it changes anything about that

@@CardmarketMagic I guess I don't understand. My understanding was that wotc changed when standard rotates. Did they say it's just an experiment and not permanent? *edit: everything i see indicates it's a permanent change. "starting with the current Standard environment, sets will rotate out of Standard every three years rather than every two years."

​@@MayorWestCS2 do you often dunk on people for being a little inaccurate? Cause that must get tiring very often

We purposely avoided combo decks because it was too much of a meme and yall deserve better 😅 maybe on April fools

Turn 1 is a little early and would need a variant with 2 petals. Turn 2 with force protection on the other hand…

I'm not a legacy player :P you'll have to forgive me. Luckily, it didn't matter, I also had unmask, just pretend I swapped them :) it comes to the same

To be fair, Carl punted more or less every turn. He could have drawn 14 the turn griselbrand came in and exhumed either a ghalta to get grief + archon, or double archon, which would have hit into another creature, or Atraxa + archon, or archon + sire of insanity, or Ionia on white + archon, or literally anything besides "pass, play grave titan, pass". Even pass, sire, pass (seriously, why was grave titan there? It hasnt been played in that deck for years) is probably enough. All he needed to do was not let them activate multiple kill effects on turn 3. It would have made for a shit video though. Turn 1 griselbrand, archon, sire of insanity / Ionia on white vs 3 decks that can't topdeck any relevant removal until turn 6 at that point just isn't fun.

As somebody who plays reanimator at my LGS, he was definitely throwing, he definitely should have just gone off with the Griseldaddy on turn 1 and just overwhelmed them all immediatly. Also he failed to hit a chancellor of the anex which would have ruined their game plans.

@@Barraind.Faylestar they did say right at the beginning "at least the most powerful we could afford to put together today" so they might've not have all those cards you're talking about. (idk the prices of cards so this is just speculation)

​@@peruman95 Sire of insanity is $0.70 and is basically a free win against standard decks (which is a reason i dont fault them for using what they did). Reanimator is, surprisingly, one of the cheapest decks in that format by far (the more played reanimator builds are $1300 - $1500, where delver variants and beanstalk are hitting 5k again, largely because reanimator only needs 2 or 3 duals unless you want to play the version that runs 6 to turn on sideboard cards that key off basic land types)

@@peruman95 they were referring to Legacy as a format instead of Vintage, not that the Legacy deck would be a budget version.

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Could make a randomized list of penalties and make it a game anyone at home can play too!

@@Loki- oh yeah that’s a great idea!

But he could do that with the unmask he played later in the turn so it didn't matter

He had an unmask in hand which is target player so he could have just cast that on himself and cast the grief targeting Thoralf later in the turn. So while he did make a mistake it had little to no impact on the game Edit: didn’t see that someone already commented this oops

But did he have the unmask in hand when he did it, I couldn't tell when he revealed his hand and it gave him a draw that if it was unmasked mattered

The reanimator deck could have very easily won here, Carl was just sandbagging to make things interesting I think. Using griselbrand immediatly would have probably won the game already, but it wouldn't have made much content.

Just know I was rooting for you Carl x)

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We did! I truly hope you enjoy what we have cooked up for this year 😃

That means so much :D thank you!

@@CardmarketMagic I really mean it! I wait for you guys videos all the time, where I want to watch everything you put out. Very clever videos and genius ideas like the ragavan vs lightning bolts 👌🏽 perfection!

This, a top Vintage deck would be interesting to see

Thank you :) you are very kind

That would just be MTGO 😅 it's not as special as you might think

@@CardmarketMagic You could make the time limit really low so it's interesting still, like under 10 minutes per player.

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