Can a 12 Rare Deck Win in Arena's Most $$$ Format? | Timeless Budget Magic 

The one thing I always hate about this build is the transform of Kumano Faces Kakkazan completely negates the benefit of Searing Blood, as any creature that is killed gets exiled and thus doesn't go to the graveyard to trigger the 3 damage from Searing Blood. So now you have an RR spell that deals 2 damage, and that's not as good.

I think Seth speaking the worst into existence is my favorite long-running joke. Things like "Well as long as they don't have a second bowmasters, we should be okay" followed by the opponent immedietly playing the second bowmasters. The best is when Seth has to stop and think for a moment, and asks "Is there a card that saves our opponent?" and then comes up with some ridiculous scenario like "Okay, if they top deck exactly X card, and then spin into Y card, and then if they're holding Z card, otherwise I think we win." And then the opponent plays the prophesied cards

The fact that lightning bolt is a rare is crazy. Same with brainstorm

22:45 Classic Seth missing the fact that his light up the stages are 1 mana

Timeless was the best thing to happen to arena since launch.

If Seth would stop playing eidolon before his 1 drops the game vs domain in game 3, wouldn't have been so close

Gotta say, if storm really is so big, roiling vortex is just an amazing counter to that.

around 22:55 you could have used the light up the stages right? They cracked the fetch in response to the roiling vortex, not at etb.

Thank you for always giving us players ways to play on the cheap!

Opponent's phone alert goes off. It's the the "Roiling Vor-Text."

Not bringing in Tormod's Crypt against the Tarmogoyf/Uro/Deathrite Shaman deck was certainly a choice.

Thing is, all these rares are useful outside of this deck so it sure does seem like a worthwhile deck to invest in from that perspective as well.

opponent cracked a fetch *while* seth was complaining the light up the stage was off. I swear that is comment fishing. It worked seth, it worked.

How many times did Seth Eidolon and then take 2 in the same turn?

Been having luck with Mono-Black Devotion. Moderately expensive (Necropotence, Dark Rituals, even Phyrexian Obliterator), but at least you get to save on the mana base.

I love The Magic Mirror. It does take a while o get going, but I play it in control deck with a lot of wraths. I've got it up to 7 counters before. A new hand every turn is pretty nuts!

At 36:05 instead of bolting the mutavault, let the hexcatcher resolve. If he sacks the hexcatcher you just pay the 1, if he doesnt, you bolt the hexcatcher and if he sacs the mutavault you still have bolt in hand and he lost 3 life and board is the same as if you bolt the mutavault.

Bolting self for prowess is a very me thing to do😊

I found Tainted Pact to be a good entry deck coming from mostly playing Historic Brawl. I had a ton of one-ofs so I found making any regular deck to require more wild cards than I had.

Another Budget magic episode lets go!

IMO roiling vortex is a main-deckable card. If you are playing best of 1 I really recommend it. I run 2 in the mainboard in modern.

I've been playing a lot of Rakdos burn, you don't actually need Bowmasters! I've been playing with Hopeless Nightmare's and Okiba Reckoner Raids and they are great, especially in the mirror. They also make it way easier to get delirium off as there's more enchantments to get into the yard. Bowmasters is by no means bad, but I only play it in the sideboard.

The best part about trying out this deck has been running into all the upgraded versions of this, and strangely the original budget version has a great win percentage into it's beefier brother.

the great thing about budget decks like this is that there's room for improvement, you can use this deck to grind for wildcards and then use those to upgrade it

I win in timeless all the time with mono red burn. Channeler, ghitu lavarunner, swiftspear, variashino pyromancer, light up the stage, skewer, bolt, wizard's lightning, bonecrusher giant, play with fire, lightning strike, reckless impulse, risk factor, electrostatic field over eidolon. 4x Rumanap ruins and 2x den of the bugbear

in RW u can also play sunbaked Canyon :) also in Mono red u can play sunbaked canyon and/or fiery islet

I made a timeless version of the goblin deck you built a little while ago and am winning games. I doubt I could rank up very far with it, but I am having fun.

There's also Gruul Burn, where you get Atarka's Command (which is usually going to be 3 damage to face + pumping your dudes, though it could also be 3 damage to face + no lifegain for your opponent) and Deathrite Shaman for that grindy, grindy value. Boros or Rakdos would probably be better, though.

that merfolk matchup was brutal 😭

Even tho Timeless is expensive, if you're smart at least you can feel pretty confident your rare/mythic purchases are gonna last. Once you've got 4 x Necropotence, you're probably good for the rest of the time you care to play arena. Big upfront cost, but holds value well if you're smart about your picks.

44:53 Ok, so I am dumb, but can someone explain thisr? He plays the eidolon first, THEN the prowess haste card, so he hits himself for 2 in a close race, then attacks for a single point of damage to light up the stage for ANOTHER 2 damage to his own face? And he couldve instead played swiftspear, then DRC, then Eidolon so his swiftspear is a lethal 3/4 haste and he would have 4 more life and a 3/3 flier even if the opponent had the leyline binding that he did...You could save light up the stage for another turn, which you would have.

2:52 Teaching Arena Zoomers About Necro? Am I missing something? I can't find that video :o

I like burn...maybe I'll craft this up and play some Timeless...

I’ve been playing budget reanimator in timeless with Troll of Lhazad dum

Been playing this deck since day 1

I just wish timeless had more people playing non meta decks. I made it to mythic playing timeless and on the way I don't think I saw more than 5 different decks.

"Are they playing a Leyline that they literally cannot cast?" Not unheard of in various competitive formats, especially when Leyline of Sanctity or Leyline of the Void are involved. Also I would point out that if you want to play almost any given competitive format on a budget, Mono-Red Burn is usually up near your best option because so many of the parts are interchangeable.

so i see the appeal of roiling vortex especially with the free spell hate but if its main job is life gain prevention could skull crack be used in its place (assuming its on mtga i actually dont know if it is)

I don't mind the Leyline in the 60 of the storm deck considering Beseech can bargain it.

Do you also have a list with the full upgrades?

Looks like a fun deck to build on paper 📃 😀 😄 👍 😉 👌 📃 that is.

i dont see the issue with the leyline, most games arent going long enough that casting it turn 4 would be relevant anyways. plus it seems to be intended to sacrifice during the beseech the mirror loop

Eagrely awaiting the oft-mentioned teaching arena zoomers about storm video🙂

I feel like some of Seth's Eidolon play was pretty odd. Both playing them when inopportune and forgetting about them other times.

Imo runny steamy boi is honestly a necessity in this deck... Spectacle, drawing, pinging all are even more super functional once you have a free three mana. Like turn 1 swift, t2 steam kin, t3 bolt, light up, skewer attack for 8, second main pop steam kin for 3 mana, light up, bolt.... Turn 3 wins are extremely viable witj steam kin

@22:50, opponent cracked the fetch in response to you playing roiling vortex, they lost life so you could've played light up the stage if you wanted to risk them not having uro.

Bauble draws at the beginning of the next upkeep, so it's probably worth the gamble with DRC.

Out of all the cards in Timeless, Minsc and Boo seem like my most hated. Probably not most OP, but it's like, what do you even do against that raw power? It doesn't even have to waste a loyalty ability activation on making a creature! It's just a 4/4 with haste every turn.

Using your template, I built a BO1 with no rares, it runs ok. After I added a few of the rares in my collection it runs alot better. Hasty creatures work pretty well too. No I only have 2 mythic WC left. Nothing else. Lol

Rpiling Vortex love is the best kind of love

I was waiting for him to say blood moon as an upgrade

Sad to not see blood moon, but since it's a rare it makes sense. But I need blood moon!

Try mono black burn with necro.

Can you make a video about Deck historic brawl?

As someone relatively new to magic, why didn't you just cast the burn spells in the Uro match up when you had the chance to? I noticed lands untapped, burn spells in hand, and nothing being done.

I crafted the brainstorms, and drafted a few bolts in limited, bit I'm hanging on for a downshift before I craft counterspell, the rest of the bolts, and the other feel bad rares...probably for nothing, but I'm holding out!!

U mentioned watching teaching zoomers about necro. Was there a video for that? I must have missed it?

As a person who has one copy of ragavan from getting a lucky pull, what should i cut for it

Can we do a timeless oops all spells deck in. Timeless or a timeless goblin char belcher in timeless if theyre both legal in this format on this channel sometime

53:25 what video are you talking about? I can’t find it

How do you get the modern cards from mtg arena? i want to build this deck.

I think that its actually kinda fine that lightning bolt is a rare. If boring Brazen Borrower is a mythic, then literally the best burn spell ever, for all time, can be rare.

Nice deck but some misplays, e.g. Swiftspear after Eidolon, 1 Mana Light ups after opponent fetching etc

I'm confused. Why sub in roiling vortex for uro, but not tormods crypt? also isnt crypt good agaisnt lhoyf decks?

I both love and HATE bowmaster at the same time.

i think my thing with pure burn in this format is that it just feels awful in the deathright shaman format

Maybe swap-out Bauble for Crypt against goyf/uro?

I realy would live to See pauper one day on Arena 😊

Do people who play monored to grind up the deck they want actually move on from it? Whatever you are shooting for will be slower / require more thought on the ladder than just going back to grinding with monored.

Why not side in tormods crypt against Uro?

I like Burning Hands in the sideboard. 2 mana for 6 against some of the most annoying cards to play against.

Another downside to Lurrus upgrade, If you want to play the cat you also need to cut Light up the Stage and Skewer the Critics which is kind of a bummer. Loved the video, I love watching Burn!

I like Burning Hands in the sideboard. 2 mana for 6 against some of the most annoying cards to play against. Seth, idk how many times I’ve seen you punt because you didn’t play a land and wanted to wait and play it after combat. Around the 22 min mark you could have saved your swift spear if you played a land, then the swiftspear (it gets the counter) and when they go to Cut Down(only one black source at the moment so they couldn’t cast another thing) you could’ve then cast the Spikefield getting a prowess trigger, saving the creature, dealing some damage and then forcing them to cast another removal spell on the same creature. Which means one less removal for latter turns. Plus actually getting 4 damage on the opponent. Play your dang land. It doesn’t cause priority to switch. Just play it. Thst whole exchanged changed the whole dang vibe of the match.

Full send into R/B/W for upgrade. Why not.

I've been really enjoying my monoB discard Timeless deck. It's just every copy of Thoughtseize, IoK, Duress, Pilfer, etc. I had lying around, plus Raven Man, Waste Not, Graveyard Trespasser etc. For a lot of decks in the format, just disrupring their early game is enough to turn them off.

Wouldn't Sulfuric Vortex be a better replacement to Roiling Vortex since it requires no mana for lifegain hate?

Wdym storm is trying to catch up? It's the best deck to get to mythic with in the format, needs to get hard countered to be stopped and even then it gets a lot of free wins by just casting Necropotence on turn one

I refer to Searing Blood as Velveeta Hands. "Velveeta Hands your Bow Buddy..." That is my input.

i think the first big upgrade for the deck would be adding blood moon, blood moon is just insane currently i've found

I have been playing burn since Timeless has been announced. I have been main decking Roiling Vortex. You wouldn't believe how many people have killed themselves casting Mishra's Baubles. People don't read Vortex.

Why you wouldn't sideboard in crypt is beyond me?? Got beat by Uro and targboi so idk why not take out the mishras and sub in t crypt?

Searing Blood gets around Leyline right??

okay but actually the domain matchup 😭😭😭

Ah a good old fashion fish fry.

Why would you take the seating blood out. It's like the only way you could burn the leyline of sanctity player.

Eidolon just does way too much damage to myself that i dont like to use it.

If wizards makes timeless more affordable the popularity will shoot through the roof

can someone timetag first lightning bolt of this video, please?

Goes to show that 10 cent burn can always win in any meta

Seth it's Vortex not Votext 😂

Will helix be refunded once its not rare?

woo!

This format *needs* price of progress

1 Ramunap Ruin 💀😭

Why can't i find the teaching arena zoomers about necro video?

So THIS is why everyone is running mono-red in best of one

Every opponent: "Aren't we playing this format to avoid playing vs mono red aggro, dinosaurs, and atraxa?!?!?"

Where is the necro video we was mentioning? Teaching arena zoomers about necro?

This was painfull to watch because of all the Eidolon and Light Up the Stage punts.

It's a lesson repeated throughout the ages. If you wanna build a cheap deck, build burn.