Can a Hangkai 48V Outboard Motor Handle 72V - Speed Test

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Recently bought a Hangkai 48V electric outboard motor from Amazon and I'm testing it out with a much higher voltage battery, to see if it will increase the top speed and power output. I know it's not designed to be used with a 72V battery, but this is just an expirement to see what components will fail first and what we'd be changing out in the future. More testing and upgrades to come!
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@organicoceans4459 23 дня назад

Hey Bro! Im the surron guy here This video was Great!!! I really like your test. Very informative. You Also saved me from a lot of rowing, lol, Im definitely curious to see what you do with this hangkai next. Its definitely the best bang for the buck when it comes to electric outboards

@PatOutdoors 23 дня назад

LOL more to come sir

@garygerard4290 5 дней назад

I've got the same motor. I commented on your earlier video showing this motor. Drill out the rivets on the 'number plate' on the top cover of the motor. Under it you will find a nice looking 'grill' that will only let the motor run cooler.

@PatOutdoors 5 дней назад

@@garygerard4290 Thanks for the tip!

@jc9930 9 дней назад

5:10 ""And the controller seems to be..................". haha, Perfect timing.

@robjohnston8632 23 дня назад

Before you upgrade the motor, I would check the drive shaft and lower gears and make sure they are strong enough for the upgrade.

@PatOutdoors 23 дня назад

@@robjohnston8632 good suggestion, will do

@colwk 17 дней назад

Nice video, have you checked if the gear case has oil? It sounds very crunchy

@Universalimports 29 дней назад

Love the test and upgrades on this motor 😂cant wait to see the other upgrades

@travism2017 28 дней назад

Amazon sells a 10hp 48v version of that same outboard. It would probably work great with that battery.

@VIGGZEN14 10 дней назад

Can you Link the motor

@jetsengoytredkl 8 дней назад

Still designed for 48 volts. Controller may still overheat.

@mototechryan5032 4 дня назад

Hey, I thought you looked familiar. I'm a proud owner of a 2019 Subaru Crosstrek and I've seen your other channel and really liked your Crosstrek videos 😎 I'm a kayak angler and have a 12v 100ah lithium battery setup running a brushless trolling motor. I get 5 to 6mph depending on conditions. Inspired to see what speeds this motor would get on my kayak setup, thanks for all your insightful and inspiring videos brother 😎

@PatOutdoors 4 дня назад

@@mototechryan5032 LOL yeah this is actually my main channel. Thank you. That’s awesome speed for a 12V unit. I currently have this motor apart, seeing if I can jam some of my higher power electric bike internals into it. I want at least 10 MPh 😂

@mototechryan5032 4 дня назад

I'm guessing my total weight with me, my kayak, and my fishing gear...is around 260lbs. So my 65lb brushless trolling motor does pretty good. I need to get hard data on run times with my setup, but I never worry about running out of battery. Please keep the videos coming, I'm really inspired to to get into higher voltage setups 😎

@Flymike53 13 дней назад

From the look of it the boat isn’t planing so you may find you’ll reach a plateau on speed until it gets up on the plane. You probably already know this just want to mention it in case - interesting work 👍

@radeonDEUS 29 дней назад

You'll likely need a different prop to get the full value of any power upgrades. I believe that one will reach a max thrust with diminishing returns at higher rpms. Be really cool to take the actual motor out of a Mercury 9.9hp and swap with a E&Co and better controller like you mentioned.

@PatOutdoors 29 дней назад

@@radeonDEUS let’s slow down with all the ideas before my wallet drains out 😂 I have been looking at 9.9’s though.. but I’ll likely keep that as is. This is just a fun experiment for me

@codyakfishing8856 28 дней назад

I'm not sure if u did, but I have to put gear oil in the lower unit, pull of prop, two screws and it opens up, fill half way

@offgriddreaming5403 22 дня назад

Good call. Did that make a difference?

@je7647 23 дня назад

those flipsky motors look pretty powerful from what ive seen

@ghastly545 29 дней назад

Loving these boat videos!

@WayneTheBoatGuy 14 дней назад

These are pretty interesting motors - I am surprised at what you were able to push through there!

@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958 27 дней назад

Awesome test. I have the same motor and will be interested in any upgrades you make to it. Can it be adapted to a larger propeller or one with more pitch? Changing the prop will probably be important in using any extra power you get efficiently without over revving or cavitation.

@dr.projectx5142 28 дней назад

Heat sink and water cool the controller and a pump to run the cold water to the water block heat sink. That would work much better.

@zentechnician 29 дней назад

The 2 orange wires is probably equal to the white learning wires on most Chinese controllers. So it's probably reverse polarity. Put water blocks in things you want to cool. You can buy Fardrivers with them already installed.

@codyakfishing8856 10 дней назад

Cant wait for more videos reguarding this outboard, if you do decide to make another video, can you please go in detail about everything in the cowl, im assuming you will reace the electric motor, can you video that process? Im looking into getting one and want to see how it would be done, many thanks!!!

@uni-byte 9 дней назад

It might push "V" (not deep "V") hull a bit faster. Those Jon boats just seem to plough through the water.

@YdocFrench 24 дня назад

Do you know the difference in the two options you have linked for sale on Amazon? I notice on both eBay and Amazon they have what appears to be the same motor but one is around 2-$250 and one is $265-$400. The only difference I can tell is in the pictures the throttle grip is rubber on the cheaper one and shiny metal on the higher priced one. Thank you. These videos were a great help for my project boat.

@ScotiaDroning 15 дней назад

You might want to look into a way to trim the motor. You'd be surprised how much extra speed you can get when you angle the motor properly.

@ragdolltrucking 19 дней назад

when i put a higher voltage battery in my impact wrench the issue i had wasnt overheating the controller, it was actually over current protection (heat also causes an increase in current) not that it matters if your replacing the controller, but theoretically you could remove the current sensing resistor if that was the issue

@PatOutdoors 18 дней назад

Hmm if it was an over current protection, it should have cut the power immediately when I initially started using it. It just ran worse and worse as it generated heat. I’ll look into it more, find a solution, and post an update. Appreciate your input

@jetsengoytredkl 8 дней назад

E = I x R. E is voltage. You increase voltage with the same resistance (R) and current (I) goes up. Current causes heat. The heat may change the resistance a little affecting current somewhat but the overall increase in current is caused by the increase in voltage.

@jetsengoytredkl 8 дней назад

Most overcurrent protection is using thermal overloads which basically open on high heat stopping power to the motor. Some reset automatically after temperature drops and some have to be reset manually or electronically.

@keepitreal5148 5 дней назад

Good job bro

@MrCthur 8 дней назад

non-flexy prop and some trim! bottom end seems like it'll be a bottle neck though.

@PatOutdoors 8 дней назад

Funny you mentioned it. I just finished mounting an aluminum prop on it and doing some testing shortly with a huge 100ah battery

@ctrlaltdude 21 день назад

These Hangkai motors are awesome! But overheating is the main issue here. I plan to add watercooling to my Hangkai. I am curious how far you can take this with overvolting the motor.

@timlong1462 13 дней назад

If anyone is replicating results the rpm will be different based on blade count. Unless he did the math or that unit is programmed to ignore every 2nd count you'd divide by 3 just fyi. Laser tachs just measure interruptions.

@eros20V 25 дней назад

Do a twin electric Hangkai outboard speed test 😉

@benr7246 14 дней назад

Water cooling the motor and controller would be a very easy way to keep it cool.

@PatOutdoors 14 дней назад

Ok yeah I’ve been looking into doing this. Would I just have a pump mounting in the housing and run a hose near the prop?

@offgriddreaming5403 22 дня назад

Hey mate Thanks for sharing. I have some questions if I may. Is this a freshwater lake you're using? I wonder how it would hold up in the salt. Have you opened it to see if it's well greased, sealed etc. That prop doesn't look very well balanced, i wonder if a better quality prop may help? Lastly, is it very loud, always hard to tell in a vid ✌🏼from 🇦🇺

@Leo-x1o1t 29 дней назад

cant wait to see more on the rawrr mantis x, i know there are some problems with the controller

@PatOutdoors 29 дней назад

The controller is currently in California getting reprogrammed. Should be seeing a lot more content on that by next week!

@eros20V 25 дней назад

That was fun . Maybe its time for a prop upgrade 😀

@PatOutdoors 25 дней назад

I think the prop is actually maxed out at this point.. I'm not sure if I can fit a larger one though

@harrison00xXx 26 дней назад

You should have tried 52 or 60V before. I was running my "up to 6S" Mamba Monster II ESC also with 8S cells, no problem just the fan soldered to permanent 12V and it was running cool enough. After a while i tried 10 and 12S.... at 10S it still worked, but 12S was a near instant capacitor blow up.

@PatOutdoors 26 дней назад

@@harrison00xXx I tried this on 52V prior to this. I just don’t have a 60V battery laying around 🤷🏾‍♂️. It’s a simple experiment before I pull the controller and motor out.

@PatOutdoors 26 дней назад

@@harrison00xXx Are you still running to original 1200W motor? How long have you been running it for and what size battery are you using?

@harrison00xXx 26 дней назад

@@PatOutdoors Well i talked about my experience with an older RC Car (Traxxas E-Maxx Brushless, literally a MONSTER by its performance longer ago) ESC. from 24V to 30V so from 6S to 8S was just fine, but 10S, so 36V was already hot for the Mosfets and smelly (probably the caps over its rated voltage). 12S, so about 44V were ofc too much for a ESC rated for 25V. But i also have a Scooter with a 48V controller and 1000W motor which accepted 60V battery, tho it grilled itself pretty quick after going a bit uphill too fast. The motor tho was fine, as long you dont have too much current and the windings or their coating doesnt melt/burn the controller typically fails before the motor. Continous load may be a different story. ESCs can handle longer continous load better than the motor, while the motor can accept a lot of peak power in short term easily. Since its for water... i guess cooling isnt the issue on either the ESC or the motor?

@harrison00xXx 26 дней назад

@@PatOutdoors On my daily/better E-Scooter i also run a aftermarket VESC based controller. The Scooter, a Vsett10+ has 60V 1400W rated motors (stock 2x35A ESC) and they are delivering with the 2x100A ESC set to 45A phase current about 2000W per motor continous, no problems so far except the original 60V 25Ah battery is on its limits with this power draw (at least 8C discharge, not counting the current spikes) But its also nearly impossible beside very dangerous to run this thing for more than 2 minutes full throttle going 80-90 km/h, so i dont run into any overheating or motor damaging things anyways despite the tuning/upgrades unless i have longer trips in hot environment.

@chrisstinson2536 17 дней назад

a small pump, tubing, and a CPU cooler or cooling plate would provide water cooling to the controller and be much more effective than a fan. just run it on a step down converter at 12v.

@PatOutdoors 17 дней назад

@@chrisstinson2536 I’ll start drafting the plan! Thanks for the idea

@maffysdad 28 дней назад

3:40 Are you sure 12,000rpm is correct? I have the same Laser RPM tester, and I'm sure you'll find that since there is a non reflective gap between each of the three blades, that the light being returned peaks from 'background radiated light' from the edge of each of the three blades, so your true RPM is likely closer to 4000RPM (3x4000=12000), and 4000 is more consistant with the design of the motor. Place a reflective 'dot' below the blades, on the 'cone' of the prop, and take your reading from that location, as this will give you a more reliable reading since the device records the highest returned rad laser light, not the more consistant white of the reflection from surrounding laser light that will be reflexted back by the rest of the cone.

@PatOutdoors 28 дней назад

@@maffysdad it could be reading a bit off. I was also questioning it myself. Just a matter of comparison between the two voltage with the same test. 52V is is approximately 70% of the voltage of 72V, which is about the same 30% difference is RPM reading. I think no matter how much I increase the power or RPM on this outboard, it will result in diminishing returns due to the design of the prop.

@dan4age 22 дня назад

Considering the OEM rpm is 3000 there's no way that prop is doing 12,000rpm

@PatOutdoors 22 дня назад

@@dan4age it’s not. It’s really 4500 RPM (just remeasured.) This is just to show the difference in RPM between the two voltages. Same difference percentage wise..

@richardkonsky 27 дней назад

Since you are already in the water use WATER COOLING! no radiator or reservoir tank required cool the motor and controller.

@PatOutdoors 27 дней назад

@@richardkonsky right, just need to run a pump, hoses, and figure out attaching a heat sink to the controller and motor.

@stevenrais9360 12 дней назад

you remembered to put gear oil in right? it does not sound healthy on that lower end

@PatOutdoors 10 дней назад

I just pulled the prop and cover off the lower unit to inspect. This electric one came prefilled with gear oil

@Picklezaregood 29 дней назад

Great video and are you gonna upgrade the controller and motor on this?

@PatOutdoors 29 дней назад

Yes I am! Just wanted to see the limitations of the factory components first. I also gotta measure everything to see what I can fit in the housing

@eagleray1 22 дня назад

Great video! The prop RPM test was a nail-biter. Please measure from the other side next time. Also, eye protection. The clearance between the prop and cavitation plate is near zero (mine was touching out-of-the-box). The prop is plastic. The slop is immense. It's a recipe for a plastic grenade in your face if the cotter pin tweaks even just a little.

@dougaranda6187 26 дней назад

Only one mph difference between this setup and the 48v. I would stick with the 48v. On the flip side, what would it do with 24v? I would love to get one but you’re looking at $1000 for batteries.

@PatOutdoors 26 дней назад

@@dougaranda6187 I think it has a lot to do with cavitation. Limitations with the stock prop

@alberthe3jr742 28 дней назад

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@jaybones614 29 дней назад

Analog boating is the worst if you aren't ready for it

@PatOutdoors 29 дней назад

Analog boating 😂 specially when the left and right oars are different and you’re on a timeline

@paveldvorak200 28 дней назад

Hi could you redo the rpm measuring. Since rpm tester works on reflection changes I belive that your valiues are trippled. Try on solid tip of the propeller with black tape square please. Interested. Thanks

@PatOutdoors 28 дней назад

@@paveldvorak200 I just did that as a comparison between 52V and 72V, which is approximately 30% difference in RPM reading. I’m suspecting it would looks something like 3000 RPM vs 3900 RPM if I were to redo it. I’ll try it again once I upgrade the motor and controller.

@paveldvorak200 28 дней назад

@@PatOutdoors Nice, thanks for explaining your view. I'm interested because the rpm seems way higher than motors on e-scooters which is my free time hobby. Thanks again

@PatOutdoors 28 дней назад

@@paveldvorak200 Well E-Scooters and Electric Dirt Bikes is also my hobby so that's why I got interested in this option vs gas outboard lol

@clownbooface2624 20 дней назад

Yeah 60v no problem but caps are likely 75v inside and full charged 72v battery is over 80v, when u close throttle the back emf spike kills the controller

@dailyrider2975 27 дней назад

water jacket to cool fed by lake water?

@TheDigitalguyy 20 дней назад

That doesnt sound like 12,000 rpm to me, try putting a piece of reflective tape on 1 of the blades as I think it might be counting each blade as an rpm but I aint no rpm lazerdoodle expert

@PatOutdoors 20 дней назад

@@TheDigitalguyy it’s not, about 4500 RPM. I remeasured at a later time but the difference between RPM and voltage is the same with both tests

@eescabar 26 дней назад

Does anyone make a water cooling jacket for a my1020?

@turbosupra2jzdragracingtob249 15 дней назад

SurRon battery with a stock SurRon controller…..is what he used.

@turbosupra2jzdragracingtob249 15 дней назад

Also….you could possibly run at 1/2 throttle until the voltage drops.

@PatOutdoors 15 дней назад

@@turbosupra2jzdragracingtob249 how would you use a surron controller on a sensor less motor? There’s only phase wires on this one

@donho6856 28 дней назад

What kind of run times are you getting? Cheers

@PatOutdoors 28 дней назад

From my experience, you get about 4 miles per every 20AH size battery running full throttle the whole time. So you would get about 20 miles of range if you had a huge 48V 100AH battery.

@donho6856 28 дней назад

@@PatOutdoors thank you! New Sub here!

@apkungen89 28 дней назад

Did you try it by yourself in the boat?

@PatOutdoors 28 дней назад

Not yet, I didn’t want to make any changes vs the previous test

@apkungen89 28 дней назад

@@PatOutdoors got it. I think you could have gotten it up to planing them though. Probably 12 mph

@johnjay6370 27 дней назад

Just use 2 motors and have a dual system.

@willverhappen 27 дней назад

Vesc more RPMs better prop cooling 72v all day

@TheTexasDuke 29 дней назад

Put a ebmx 9000 on it!

@kittyztigerz 22 дня назад

not controller it motor safey switch when motor get too hot it sent data to controller cut off safey power so it turn off on you once it cool down it safey overheat switch avoid motor burn out and if you take look at switch on motor u wll noticed it two wire and heat up switch it kill power to motor if you have water cooling motor you never have to worry about this issues at all but if you modicaty cover more air flow may last you longer keeping motor cooled down i dont own one but i worked on one for my customer plus have cut open top of cover and make vent down into motor so it last longer

@PatOutdoors 22 дня назад

@@kittyztigerz appreciate the input! Give me ideas..

@kittyztigerz 22 дня назад

@@PatOutdoors mt customer still running off 48v dc battery he have same issues as you have it cut off when get too hot not enough cooling just give you orher way fix overheat issues so wont happen again if it was control it would been smoking alot n barely catch on fire but no smoke so not controlled it motors there other trips you can do is incled amp to motor so u can change impeller pit for less rpm more flow i believe there is youtube done this test called rctestflight RU-vid channel