Can A HYPERCAR Beat A 2014 LMP1? 

Do you prefer the Hypercar era or the LMP1 era?

I really like both. They look like spaceships. Especially LMP1. Kinda wish the Hyper cars have a little more HP. Like 750-800hp instead of 690hp.

For those who don't believe a Hypercar could actually keep up with a 2014 LMP1 car, at least in qualifying, I took the liberty to examine every round the 2014 and 2023 & 2024 WEC season shared and show the pole laps to show how close it really is. I decided to show 2023 laps as well given the times are actually faster than in 2024; perhaps BoP wasn't as harsh, I dunno. Spa Francorchamps 2014 - Porsche 919 - 2:01.198 2023 - Toyota GR010 - 2:00.812 2024 - Porsche 963 - 2:02.675 (Fastest in Q1, hyperpole was actually slower) Le Mans 2014 - Toyota TS040 - 3:21.789 2023 - Ferrari 499P - 3:22.982 2024 - Porsche 963 - 3:24.634 COTA 2014 - Toyota TS040 - 1:49.093 2023 - Did not compete 2024 - Ferrari 499P - 1:50.390 Fuji 2014 - Toyota TS040 - 1:26.886 2023 - Toyota GR010 - 1:27.794 2024 - Cadillac V-Series.R - 1:28.901 Bahrain 2014 - Porsche 919 - 1:43.145 2023 - Toyota GR010 - 1:46.564 2024 - Not yet disputed Interlagos 2014 - Porsche 919 - 1:17.676 2023 - Did not compete 2024 - Toyota GR010 - 1:23.140 With the exception of Bahrain and Interlagos, it was actually not that far off, and there's even excuse with Interlagos, as it got resurfaced in 2014, so it had a lot of grip. You can properly see that given that, in 2014, the F1 pole lap was actually faster than in 2004, and everyone knows just how much slower 2014 F1 cars are compared with 2004 ones. After 10 years, it's not as pristine. So yes, Hypercars, while not faster, are quite close. And fun fact, the 2014 Audis tended to be 2 or so seconds slower in qualifying, so the Audi in particular like in this video is even closer to the Hypercars.

Where hypercars hybrid is mostly used for efficiency purposes since it only works above a certain speed threshold LMP1s can use hybrid at any time giving them unreal acceleration.. I remember watching the lmp1 onboards and when the hybrid kicks in its like Vin Diesel activating nitrous in the Fast & Furious movies.

Lmp1 and hy were pretty close but i think, if i remember correctly the r18 had a top speed of 345kph on the mulsanne during the 2014 24h whereas the fastest hy was the Porsche at 344.5 kph. I believe this change would make the gap bigger

The power shown at the beggining is kinda deceptive. The hybridation doesn't work in the same way at all between LMP1 and Hypercar. LMP1's electric motor was added on top of the ICE. That's why they had enormous exit speed out of corners, that's when they deployed the electric. On the straight however, it couldn't be maintained all the way, so power go down to around 500 hp. On hypercar, electric motor replace part of ICE power, so the max is always 690 hp, whatever the mix of Electric to ICE is.

I'm not sure why people think Hypercars are faster than LMP1s, they may look cooler, but that doesn't mean faster

I was just thinking about Hypercar vs LMP1 the other day. A good comparison would be Toyota GR010 vs TS030. They had very similar Le Mans qualifying times.

As another commenter pointed out, the actual real-world timing differences are just a few seconds b/t HC and 2014 LMP1. I love LMP1, but WEC must be doing something right with Hypercars because there's tons of brand participation right now, and I prefer the variety over having a few highly-funded programmes discouraging manufacturers with less funding from joining.

Despite being 100kg heavier, and 1/10th the cost, it's incredible how much pace the LMH has!

I still love the old LMP1 cars.... Not only they were fast, but they also have amazing looking cars. Karin Asaka & Emma Verde's Peugeot 908, Setsuna Yuki's 2011 Audi R18 TDI, Yuu Takasaki's 2006 Audi R10 TDI, and 2016 Porsche 919 Hybrid are some of them...

Miss the group c and Lmp1 era the Hypercars are significantly slower than the LMP1 cars that came before

You should do additional runs with no dirty air or slip stream so you can compare the cars on pure pace as well

FINALLY! Love you for this!

Hypercarcars are developing faster every year, amazing how far they've come

Last year of LMP1 Toyota hiperpole lap 3:15.267 and LMP2 of United Autosport 3:24.528, this year in the hiperpole hypercar Porsche 3:24.634

Current Hypercarse are snails in comparison to LMP1s, especially in race trim. This Audi could constanlty do sub 3:25 lap times during the race, whilst this year we saw sub 3:30 only occasionally. Let alone the LMP1s from 2015 onwards - lap times below 3:20 were common and to me it brought a lot of excitement - just how fast they were going. The Hypercars need a bit more speed, this is the top category, it should look fast (it doesn't now). There is room for that without compromising the regulations, both aero and power-wise.

Incredibly close race

The essence of enduranceracing is the advantage on the long run. The hybrid probably has a higher mpg causing less pitstops and giving an advantage.

0:31: That's so far the best sounding naturally aspirated V8 American LeMans car but still behind the Mustang GT3

I wasn’t surprised that the Audi had the faster lap, but I was surprised that the margin of victory was so close.

I was impressed to see how well the Cadillac kept up with the Audi. 😮

Next 2012 Toyota TS030 Hybrid vs Toyota GR010 Hybrid.

No way that LMP1... In 2014 the polesitter did 340km/h top speed and 3.21 ... And that LMP1 from AC is far away of reality, the energy/lap is very poor, not an accurate performance, etc...

Hypercar with 350 kph top speeds? Interesting

LMP was too well rounded compared to lmdh and lmh

LMP1 is kinda more of corner speed like GT500/Class 1 cars while Hypercars are bit better at higher speed. Group C cars can reach between 402km/h & 420km/h while Hypercars can only reach between 350km/h & 360km/h maximum. LMP1 can have 1000hp with the hybrid systems while the Hypercars have only around 700hp overall with the hybrid systems. Imagine if the regulations of the Hypercars has the same as Group C with the high speed & corner speed like Super Formula & GT500/Class 1 while the LMGT3/GTE cars have the regulations as Hypercars currently & the Class1/GT500 have the same as Indycars' high speed.

I like both. Just to ask, why does the Cadillac LMH sound like a NASCAR stock car?

2014 pole lap was a 3:21 by toyota and the fastest lmh laptime was a 3:22 by a ferrari in 2023 so they are evenly matched

Here at Le man battling between the German engineering mechanics and the Freedom from American V8 roaring in the track

Both LMH and LMP1 are equally good cars, especially Coco Hayashi's 2014 AUDI R18 TDI.

I love both LMP1 & Hypercar

Fantasti camera job!

By having them compete in the same environment, it is clear that the LMP1-H cars are as close to formula cars as possible, while the LMDh cars have a taste of GT cars in them. The Cadillac has a top speed that is typical of American V8-powered cars, but its cornering speed is inferior to that of the Audi due to the sluggish response of the car body when cornering. On the other hand, the Audi's top speed is slightly less than the Cadillac's, but its cornering speed is faster and the car is more stable under braking. Both cars are very well built Le Mans prototypes, but I personally think that the Audi is the better choice because it pushes the limits more.

The Caddy kinda gave up that 2nd last corner a little too easily. ;)

For 2014, you should've used the #7 Toyota and for 2024, you should've used the #6 Porsche. The respective pole winners of both years. Or you could've used the #2 Audi for 2014 and the #50 Ferrari for 2024. The respective race winners of both years.

Next Peugeot 908 HDi Fap vs Hypercar

The Caddy was in the draft for 1/3 of the lap. Find a twistier track and watch the Audi disappear.

In Assetto Corsa, the Audi has the battery deployment set to minimum in the baseline setup...

Lmp1 era because or perf

My new crush, and my old beloved, at the same time. 😍😍😍

Lmp1 are amazing but is more pricey so i understand why they switched to hypercar

Did the Audi run out of ERS at some point? Coming out of Indianapolis and Arnage were slower than I expected.

Impressive!

You know you only calculated the horsepower of the engine but not the electric motors in the hypercars while you went ahead to calculate the total horsepower of the lmp1 and it made a huge difference between these 2 beasts. But why?

Btw...a SuperGT GT500 car would play with both of them 😂

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Looks like barrichelo drove the LMP1 and Senna drove the HY. This is the only way for a HY to beat an LMP1.

idea for a video: 2014 f1 cars vs 2014 lmp1 2015 f1 vs 2015 lmp1 2016 f1 vs 2016 lmp1 in the same race (just to se if lmp1s were ever faster than f1)

Are we sure that Cadillac is a hypercar and not an LMP car?

How effective is the draft in this game?

Why the hybrid system didn't help much at the start?

I'm surprised that the Caddy was able to home in on the Audi on straights despite its weight and lack of 300hp, but then it again it probably helps that the Audi has as much aero efficiency as a bloody brick. That thing is so slow on the straights.

How is the Cadillac heavier that the hybrid Audi? If it matched the hp, it would be much faster.

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Appreciate the effort but making them race is not a proper way to find out their ultimate performance. If they would be ghosting into each other and both taking the ideal line it would be.

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The hypercar model is way too fast. The gap is larger in reality.

@THEWINDTUNNEL would the Porsche 919 beat the Audi

Something is horribly wrong with your "simulation". I wish you would check these over before posting them. Too often you have cars on here being driven completely wrong or just plain sandbagging like the AI can't drive them. This is one of those cases.

hypercar wasn't supposed to be faster than LMP1

La Quattro de 2014 faisait pas 950hp du tous, renseignez vous avant de sortir de tel ânerie. Le moteur thermique faisait 500ch et le moteur électrique lui faisait 340ch soit un total de 840ch (850hp) et Audi utilisait une puissange de 6Mj contre 8 pour Porsche et Toyota. De plus, utiliser un jeu irréaliste pour faire des comparatifs est juste ridicule.

Audi diesel v6 has noise!?!. Not whoosh. Also dirty air . etron. Ok which is it. ?

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Hypercar performance is relatively old in modern times, but is done to cut costs. In 2014 the Audi was the slowest of the LMP1s and the hypercar struggled against it. So speed is not just redlining it also can be manipulated by way of downforce, torque/traction and weight. As the complexities add, the LMP1 is naturally more expensive than the hypercar due to the lack of restrictions for homologation. I feel although we have more competitors now, Hypercar is still a step back (more than a decade). Bring BACK LMP1 and GT1!

no, its fake ! hypercar is slower than old LMP2

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It's a cool comparison but the V-seriesR is not a Hypercar... it's an LMDh car which is close to a Hypercar but different. You should compare a Ferrari 499P or a Toyota GR010. The numbers are nearly the same as a Cadillac, but the two categories works differently. I think the LMH-s are better at LeMans. The ICB-EV power ratio is different in a LMH and LMDh

LMP1 Hybrid could achieve about 1000 hp if all power deployed LMDh is limited to 670 hp. Also, for top speed, they are similar. In 2024 Le Mans, Porsche achieve 344 km/h top speed, but in LMP1 day, 345 km/h is normal.

That turn 1 from the Hypercar was 100% impossible. Not even a McMurtry Spéirling Fan Car can do that at 100% fan downforce. Dude, I just watched the top speed after Tertre Rouge... NOT even the fastest HYPERCAR can go faster than the worst hybrid LMP1. This channel is posting things unverified... this is not good. Posting BS is not good. A Hypercar would need almost triple the downforce and double the HP to do that sector like that.

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The lmp1 should be way way faster than that

You know you only calculated the horsepower of the engine but not the electric motors in the hypercars while you went ahead to calculate the total horsepower of the lmp1 and it made a huge difference between these 2 beasts. But why?