I've done this many times as I own three Spyders. The first manual part is obviously to flush the fluid (25 pushes). The second part the software does nothing but hold your hand, watching the switches for the bleed. I just did this procedure on a 2008GS that I just put new brake pads on. Didn't need a flush, and I know how to bleed brakes the normal way. So I did the old fashion non-computer way (including VSS) and was fine. Checked pressures with BUDS to confirm. Now the one thing that I hear a lot is if you turn the key on at the wrong time (not connected to BUDS) it will mess up your VSS settings (trip to dealer). So lock the key in your car. My bike after the new pads popped the scrolling "Brake Failure" error, and I knew I had to bleed the VSS (spongy pedal). The best part of your video is showing how to access the VSS bleeder!! Some people said in forums they took off the whole front end, got sliced and diced, etc!!
Yeah, It is odd that the manual has you bleed normally, (minus the VCM), and then do it again. I purchased BUDS so I could disable DESS and now since I have it, I thought I would show the procedure. If I didn’t have BUDS, I would not think twice about just doing a normal brake bleed.
The video is fairly detailed and easy to follow. It would help the eager beavers get the job done safely and efficiently. Great job and work flow with the repair
I always come back to your videos when I'm doing a service on my 2018 RTL. Very good instructor. I haven't seen anything new in some time. Hope all is well with you and yours.
Excellent job man !! ... I love how the B.U.D.S Cycles the pump !! Because I don't have the B.U.D.S my only choice is to bleed the brakes & go for a Ryde & hit the brakes hard several times to activate the ABS Pump ... & Then bleed them again! It's just so dam expensive to buy & get the B.U.D.S imported into Australia ... Costs nearly double! Another brilliant Vlog brother 👍😁🤘🤟 Beanie
Thanks that was really informative. I wish I had seen this video before ordering the parts for my 2012 RT, hopefully when they arrive they are the correct parts. Thanks for explaining the method of correctly fitting the master cylinder caps. I removed mine to check the fluid levels, cleaned the surrounding plastic and refitted them and got fault C1282. I hadn’t added any fluids. Anyway hopefully bleeding will help.
great video, also if your Spyder is SM5 will also need to bleed the clutch system. The software you have, where can I get it or can you provide a copy of yours
Hey! Fantastic video. Questions: is that an official mechanics manual for your trike? Those are available to purchase I am assuming? What is BUDS? Software? Is the computer needed for every brake bleed, or did you just demonstrate two different methods, one with the computer and one without? I thought you were done when you manually bled the brakes. Was the computer necessary to let the trike computer know the job was done? Thanks for the post. I really appreciate the "real world" look at what it says to maintain your Can Am. I'ver heard that servicing is really pricey. I think servicing must be factored into whether to purchase or not.
The procedure according to the shop manual is what I did. It has you do a normal manual bleed then bleed using BUDS to exercise and bleed the VCM (which is the anti-lock brake module). If I didn’t have BUDS, I wouldn’t think twice about doing just a conventional brake bleed and calling it good.
reekeekee1, Here is a link to my video about disabling my DESS module with BUDS. The link for where I ordered it from is in the description. Scroll through the comments on that video. There is a lot of discussion about BUDS there. If you have any more questions, ask away. Thanks for watching! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q4kaAfjTODE.html
If you asked a dealer, they would say absolutely, of course. If I hadn’t purchased BUDS to disable my DESS system, I would have just done a regular bleed with the last bleeder being the one on the VCM and never looked back.
New sub here, John and Mairium sent me here. I'm looking at a Spyder just like yours, but I'm paranoid about buying it, I keep getting mixed answers about buying Spyders with low miles, what's your opinion?
As long as it starts and runs, I wouldn’t hesitate buying a 2014 or higher Spyder (1330). I would probably run some Chevron Techron fuel system cleaner through it and change the oil and coolant so you know you are good.
So i did the speed bleeders and bled everything in order. Easily refilling the master cylinder with fresh DOT.I did not have Budds nor did I do the VCM bleeder-do I get points taken away for not following ALL the service manual directions?
@@ItsYoursOWNIT well I actually need to place the speed bleeder on the the rear caliper...can the rear parking brake cover come off easily... I'm not needing to remove caliper yet just want to finish the bled job. Just seems a bit annoying with the cover on it ...I'm hoping to leave the caliper intact for now...but the parking mechanism is a bit of a challenge
@@davidvuchetich3045 on my RT, the bleeder on the rear caliper is on the front of the caliper. There is no cover in the way. The parking brake cable does run by it but no need to move it or take anything apart to replace the bleeder.
@@ItsYoursOWNIT Ok all done I had to replace rear pads so...it's a 12 RTL so had to remove rear parking brake pulley and retract actuator CCW to retract caliper piston.. I'm curious ..did you put a speed bleeder on the VCM ? I haven't bled that yet but will ... I'm assuming it's a standard size bleeder as were the others.Thxs
Also in CAN AM SPYDER OWNERS-Self Service and Technical I suggested a LOANER (for a cost) program for the BUDS system.....An entrepreneur could buy the program(s) and ship it around for a couple weeks loan then that borrower could ship it to the next borrower...I'm thinking the program could be called THIS BUDS FOR YOU! Love your thoughts...Dave
Seems that the BUDS system is a costly operation. If you have any knowledge about breeding brakes using the Speed Bleeders, doing the BUDS system is a redundant operation. Even the pressure test is useless since the warning light will come on if there is an error. That check should be completed BEFORE riding the machine. I guess it's BRP's way of covering there 6... I have the wife check the fluids, lights, horn and air pressure before every ride. An ounce of prevention..... Good Video!
Jeff Fischer Yes I do! You are the first to ask. Email your mailing address to me (***********) and I will mail them to you. Thanks for watching! Ride safe.
Vredestein Quatrac 5 I love them, they ride and handle much better than the oem Kenda tires. I have 175/55 r15 on mine. They do sell 165/60 r15 as well. Here is a link: www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein&tireModel=Quatrac+5&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=755TR5QT5&tab=Sizes
I have Vredestein Quatrac 5 on the front and just a stock Kenda on the rear right now. As soon as I wear out the Kenda, I have a Vredestein to put on the rear as well.
