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@wakeangel2001
@wakeangel2001 6 месяцев назад
I would make the argument that Goku has fought gods like Beerus and Zamasu, but Sonic has DEFEATED gods like Solaris, Chaos, Dark Gaia, and the Time Eater
@TheTSMBoi
@TheTSMBoi 6 месяцев назад
I think saying that, Metal Sonic (or Shadow) may have a chance at winning too
@TheTSMBoi
@TheTSMBoi 6 месяцев назад
Or not
@TheTSMBoi
@TheTSMBoi 6 месяцев назад
He could go farther if he gets more gems (Time stones, Sol)
@gabrielmachado1247
@gabrielmachado1247 6 месяцев назад
​@@toonsy1596 Solaris whole thing Is the Fact he destroyed the entire Sonic Cosmology '-',every thing was literally GONE just by him existing,the fellas were on the eye of the storm and even then they had little time left Also Boom is part of the Canon Sonic Multiverse,and in Boom Spring Theory IS a real thing,sooooo.....
@spiderzsonic6581
@spiderzsonic6581 6 месяцев назад
​he only eliminated the trunks timeline, which exaggeratedly included the 12 db universes ​@@toonsy1596
@-SuperNintendo64-oj4bz
@-SuperNintendo64-oj4bz 6 месяцев назад
“Calm down Lois, remember that time I was used as background footage for a bulbasquirtle video to explain the death battle of Sonic the hedgehog and son Goku?”
@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc
@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc 6 месяцев назад
Real
@jamaldeldinglenut563
@jamaldeldinglenut563 6 месяцев назад
4:06 It is stated that Solaris exists in the past, present, and future meaning that Sonic, Shadow, and Silver had to defeat Solaris separately.
@FireLightLion
@FireLightLion 6 месяцев назад
Also if they defeated it in the past, present, and future and there is an infinite amount of past and an infinite amount of future, Solaris is infinite and ♾️/3 is still ♾️. Hell even Sonic beat Time Eater who did the same feat, Sonic just had one smaller, dumber, weaker version of him and you can play the boss and Sonic could kill him, blud is infinite as it gets
@catfrombowsersfury1654
@catfrombowsersfury1654 6 месяцев назад
Cream the rabbit solos All she needs is to sit back and let cheese do all the work
@gameyfirebro9645
@gameyfirebro9645 6 месяцев назад
Also Hyper Tails with the flickies.
@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc
@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc 6 месяцев назад
@Catfrombowsersfury1654 cringe
@gameyfirebro9645
@gameyfirebro9645 6 месяцев назад
@@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc ??
@memeboi6913
@memeboi6913 6 месяцев назад
Goku: NOOOO! I'M MEANT TO BE THE STRONGEST PERSON IN UNIVERSE 7! I CAN'T BE BEATEN BY A LITTLE GIRL! Cream: cheese/B button spam go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. (This is a joke I know goku wouldn't act like that, not sure about Cream tho, she seems like the kind of person to say, "haha [insert thing here] go brrrrr")
@ZeeecksLegends
@ZeeecksLegends 6 месяцев назад
Things to note -Goku is bulletproof and has been since childhood - Instant transmission is mainly used for long distance traveling requiring Goku to lock on to an energy source. Goku dodging can be done simply with Ultra Instinct, or just his normal combat speeds. - Ultra Instinct is a technique that Goku can use while in any form as more recent manga chapters confirm. -Super Sonic is invulnerable, but only when his guard is up. Instances like the S3&K intro cutscene, The Sonic Unleashed opening, and one cutscene in Sonic Frontiers, showcase instances of Sonic getting snuck or letting his guard down, resulting in him being dropped out of his Super form -Solaris was beaten by 3 people, because it was necessary. All 3 super hedgehogs were strong enough to beat Solaris 1 on 1, the reason it took 3 of them was because of Solaris being omnipresent. They all had to fight him individually on separate timelines for him to be taken out. This is evidenced by the dialogue that takes place during the battle with Solaris. -Game Sonic’s super form without a doubt, can contest with Goku’s forms. Battling present Solaris, and the Time Eater is essentially like Goku fighting Zeno. Solaris and the time eater were both capable of destroying timelines and reality almost as if nothing. The only character in Dragon Ball capable of doing this is Zeno, someone that Goku at his current state in the manga, can’t beat. It would definitely be a close battle physically, but Super Sonic, has the edge in hax and power. - Archie Sonic should be left out of these discussions seeing as Archie and Game Sonic aren’t the same being. Yes, Archie is without a doubt the strongest Sonic there is and he would wipe both Game Sonic and DBS Goku but if we’re talking about Archie Sonic, we have to level the playing field by comparing him to Xeno Goku.
@soleonshae8657
@soleonshae8657 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your awareness
@theomnigamer9177
@theomnigamer9177 6 месяцев назад
I agree with pretty much all of what you said. Except the Solaris bit regarding 3 Super’s were needed because Solaris was Omnipresent across the timeline (Which I still somewhat agree with). If it really did need 3 Super people they had Knuckles, Shadow, and evidently Silver as shown in the game. Shadow also stated it might’ve been possible to take out Solaris if Sonic was still alive. Shadows opinion of Sonics abilities hold a lot of weight considering Sonic has bested Shadow in SA2, and Shadow can temporarily have an incredible increase in power by removing his inhibitors. So yes, while it did require 3 Super’s to defeat Solaris due to it being across time, it more specifically at least needed Sonic. Sonic was more or less the one that would make victory possible, according to Shadow. Which is a good way to scale how strong an opponent really is.
@minetfq739
@minetfq739 6 месяцев назад
sonic frontiers is a different thing/reason. For instance, the new final battle with The End. Most likely The ENd itself has the power to push Sonic out of his super form or rather any weapon made by the ancients
@Linkfan0001
@Linkfan0001 6 месяцев назад
As far as i know xeno goku still doesn't even compare to anything base sonic can do in archie sonic so it wouldn't even matter tbh...
@GerardKwey
@GerardKwey 6 месяцев назад
Solaris being beaten by Sonic in the present, Shadow in the past, and Silver in the future, is a stupid argument and headcanon, and there's no such thing as "the past" or "the future" as one single points in time, time by definition has infinite points, the past is 1940, 2000 BC, last thursday, and the infinite points in between, and vice versa for the future. The "god of time" that was destroying the concept of space time is not gonna be omnipresent in only 3 specific points in time. Sonic CD literally tells you there's not a single future. The three hedgehogs all hit Solaris throughout infinite points in time, Silver literally said he was going to destroy Solaris throughout the past, present and future all at once.
@X.30
@X.30 6 месяцев назад
Quick fact: Game sonic has now equal feats as archie sonic maybe even surpassed because of super sonic 2
@TheSonicGuy40
@TheSonicGuy40 6 месяцев назад
Bro I literally had this exact conversation with my friend.
@charziz6693
@charziz6693 6 месяцев назад
So did the other 39 sonicguys, with the same friend.
@Chargestoneshorts
@Chargestoneshorts 4 месяца назад
40
@thanosman3604
@thanosman3604 6 месяцев назад
It's absolutely criminal how you put omega on this list and not knuckles💀
@Nagisa_Kobayashi
@Nagisa_Kobayashi 6 месяцев назад
Even though Goku keeps getting his ass wooped in his own universe and has died the most compared to anyone I guess he’s still OP, but I bet eggman would have made a machine that can contain the power and control of a Super Sayan if he had experience with them.
@spicy767
@spicy767 6 месяцев назад
Goku cant even Instant Transmission without a target, so he cant teleport at will, just moves really fast. In addition, Goku beat Hit (who also has time stopping powers) because Goku moved FASTER THAN HIM
@CoVa923
@CoVa923 6 месяцев назад
I think a better question would be could goku beat any sonic character rather than the other way around Sonic washes goku, shadow washes goku, silver washes goku, literally anyone that can use the chaos emeralds power can wash goku basically so...
@kaimattermanipulation8585
@kaimattermanipulation8585 6 месяцев назад
4:05 just letting this be known they had to beat Solarus in the past present and the future at the same time, and sliver did beat him by himself in whatever time he was in. (and so did Sonic and Shadow but that goes without saying) this fight is often misunderstood.
@annesavisaboochuy
@annesavisaboochuy 6 месяцев назад
you reaaaaally overestimate goku. Kamehamehas are strong but they can very much be taken or deflected.
@sonickwabs91
@sonickwabs91 6 месяцев назад
3:31 This only happened because Eggman had prep time and caught super sonic off gaurd, if sonic did know what Eggman had planned for him sonic unleashed would've never happened. (Good video tho).
@Thatonemetalsonicfan
@Thatonemetalsonicfan 6 месяцев назад
Could ultra instinct goku defeat Petter Griffin? No, in season 57 episode 582 of Family Guy quantum Petter showed a duooctovingintillionth of a fraction of his power
@RaijinRain
@RaijinRain 6 месяцев назад
Think about this. Think. Ultra Sonic is basically the equivalent to a singular Super Emerald, yes? ...Now imagine Hyper Sonic who has *All seven* Everything Ultra can do x6
@axelsonicsson7160
@axelsonicsson7160 6 месяцев назад
Not to mention if he had the skills of frontiers Sonic in super
@JackAndTom610
@JackAndTom610 6 месяцев назад
Peter griffin and freiza teaming up in the background is gold
@antrox2346
@antrox2346 6 месяцев назад
There's no need to overanalyze it. If Goku tells Amy "Sonic doesn't love you". RIP Goku.
@josephyisrael6219
@josephyisrael6219 6 месяцев назад
Fr
@thatguy5601
@thatguy5601 6 месяцев назад
I want to say Silver is higher than Metal Sonic since in Archie Sonic Silver didn't even go super against Enerjak in the timeline where Sonic lost to Enerjak while Sonic did have to go super and it wasn't even enough to beat him until Enerjak got weakened by something and he even redirected Enerjak power right back at him but most likely lose against ssb kaioken in his super state
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 6 месяцев назад
Mainline Super Sonic was already enough... Archie Sonic is an overkill
@Hugo-yz1vb
@Hugo-yz1vb 6 месяцев назад
@@toonsy1596 Nah, Archie is overhyped yes, but Goku it's still not winning, at least not that easily.
@matitheanimator
@matitheanimator 6 месяцев назад
Both are overkill
@Marx_165
@Marx_165 2 месяца назад
Can people actually talk archie Sonic for ANYTHING else besides his power? Btw his not cannon
@IsaiahVance-nc1ow
@IsaiahVance-nc1ow 6 дней назад
@@Marx_165 yes. thats why he's called Archie sonic. and not mainline sonic. it is a different version of sonic. not the same. super sayain 4 isnt canon but people still talk about that form all the time.
@EliotBailey1987
@EliotBailey1987 6 месяцев назад
The jokes this man says get better and better
@juanmanuelsanchezbautista927
@juanmanuelsanchezbautista927 6 месяцев назад
Shhhh,fax.
@DarkBean55
@DarkBean55 6 месяцев назад
You’re forgetting Silver’s most powerful weapon… *TESTICULAR TORSION*
@petesoys6348
@petesoys6348 6 месяцев назад
I mean, Game Sonic isn't really anything to scoff at. By no means is he stronger than Archie Sonic, but as Super Sonic, he's taken down some strong characters, like Emerl, who absorbed the power of a Canon that destroyed a cluster of stars, Chaos, the God of Destruction, Metal Overlord, Solaris, someone that had to be fought in the past, present, and future, with Sonic fighting him in the present (so it was a fair three v three), Dark Gaia, Time Eater, and The End, with most of these being done alone. The only ones that weren't were Metal Overlord, like you said was done with the help of the other teams and Super Tails and Knuckles, Dark Gaia, which was done with a bit of help from Chip, Time Eater, which was just done with the past version of Sonic, and The End, which he either had help from Sage or Eggman depending on the ending. If you're also gonna bring up Hyper Sonic, I think it's fair to bring up his other forms, such as Darkspine and Excalibur Sonic from the storybook games and Super Sonic 2/Cyber Sonic from Frontiers, which is the form that allowed him to take out The End, who I forgot to mention, can be considered the embodiment of death. Like, come on. Again, I get Game Sonic isn't exactly the strongest version of Sonic, but a bit more of an in depth analysis would be nice. Also, not sure about Shadow being better at hand to hand combat when Sonic appears in 4 games with a focus on combat and Shadow appeared in 1. Maybe 2/3 if you count Shadow the Hedgehog and 06, but one of those games aren't even canon anymore. Edit:I did stuff wrong, he beat Emerl in base form and is able to do the same to Perfect Chaos as of Generations. That probably helps prove my point a bit.
@Themaskededitor4
@Themaskededitor4 6 месяцев назад
I don’t think shadow sonic and silver were fighting together they already said that he exists in the past present and future so the trio so silver had to fight solaris on his own
@MilesReset
@MilesReset 6 месяцев назад
You are correct, this video is very bad when it comes to info on both characters...
@Themaskededitor4
@Themaskededitor4 6 месяцев назад
@@MilesReset I can tell
@ChubbyCheekman
@ChubbyCheekman 6 месяцев назад
It’s time for a death battle
@PikachuGamerSMT
@PikachuGamerSMT 6 месяцев назад
Sonic characters scale higher than the DBS Anime/DBGT which both scale higher than any canon manga so yeah
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
My Man should never cook again,learn the characters feats from the comments or ask professionals otherwise you will cause another war like this one for this video
@czms922
@czms922 6 месяцев назад
Man you really took "he can't beat Goku" seriously, like dude Goku isn't hanging with the gods sonic takes down😭
@RetroMagnus761
@RetroMagnus761 2 месяца назад
Game Sonic's only real feats are beating Solaris who destroyed the entire universe which would put him at universal. With that being said however it still doesn't change the fact that Sonic's base form is only around planet level and you can't add super Sonic's feats to regular sonic since that's a transformation that he can't achieve on his own. Anime Goku has low multversal + feats by the end of the series due to the stuff he pulls like withstanding the hakai in base form (which can destroy your body and soul), completely mopping fused zamasu who was at the very least a million times stronger than him, nearly destroying the entire universe just by clashing his fist's with lord Beerus, beating kefla who can destroy a universe in one shot, defeating Jiren who shook an infinite realm just by walking, shaking the infinite dimension of the TOP just by powering up ect, ect. All of these feats put him at multiversal at a bare minimum. Manga Goku (AKA "canon" Goku) has all of these feats as well but even more advanced including additional ones like being able to contend with gas who was the strongest in his universe at the time. All of those feats combined easily makes manga Goku outerversal +. Now while it can be argued that Archie Sonic has feats that surpass some of this Goku still has stronger variants like Xeno Goku, CC Goku, COMP Goku, ect ect who have feats that scale beyond 11D/ outerversal and possibly even higher compared to Archie Sonic's 4D feats. Xeno Goku alone scales beyond outerversal in base form considering he beat foes like demigra (in base) who were threatening infinite timelines, dimensions, and even the real world itself. I don't think sonic is touching any of that even at his peak.
@SonZackSSJ9k
@SonZackSSJ9k 6 месяцев назад
Game Sonic literally dogwalks Archie Sonic lmao
@The-Black-Fang
@The-Black-Fang 6 месяцев назад
Fax.
@cosmicgamer8693
@cosmicgamer8693 6 месяцев назад
What are you yapping about did you even watch the video and all the fact that he stated you guys really need to do more research search more research about Archie sonic it is literally the strongest version of sonic confirmed by multiple people
@SonZackSSJ9k
@SonZackSSJ9k 6 месяцев назад
@@cosmicgamer8693 Wrong, it’s speculated by Multiple People but what you need to know is that Ian Flynn (who wrote the Archie Comics) says himself Game Sonic Vs Archie Sonic would be a Stalemate and this was before Forces came out with Infinite being made with Materials stronger than the Time Eater and in turn making Sonic in Base (Forces) being equal if not Stronger than Super Sonic (Generations) which means he surpassed Solaris in Base by this point.
@shizzinadizz
@shizzinadizz 6 месяцев назад
@@cosmicgamer8693Ian Flynn said they were equal lmao
@The-Black-Fang
@The-Black-Fang 6 месяцев назад
@@shizzinadizz And game Sonic got LEAGUES stronger since. Also there are statements that support an argument that game Sonic has been stronger than Archie almost since forever.
@SonicTheFastBlueBoi
@SonicTheFastBlueBoi Месяц назад
Goku: *Tries to kill Cream* Cheese: NOT ON MY WATCH! *Explodes Goku* Edit: Ultra Sonic on the Starfall Islands with the Chaos Emerald powers:
@DJBurns-jq8mn
@DJBurns-jq8mn 6 месяцев назад
Basically if the Sonic characters have either a super form, reality warping hax or need a Super Form to be defeated then the can destroy Goku. Without any of those those criteria it depends on specific circumstances.
@zakgaming4194
@zakgaming4194 6 месяцев назад
There is one: Sonic man.
@ihonestlydunnoman6101
@ihonestlydunnoman6101 6 месяцев назад
hOoBa DOOba Sonic the Douchehog from Sonic Zombies!
@zakgaming4194
@zakgaming4194 6 месяцев назад
@@ihonestlydunnoman6101 Also Him. And everyone’s favourite sonic character: Aosth robotnik.
@ihonestlydunnoman6101
@ihonestlydunnoman6101 6 месяцев назад
@@zakgaming4194 P I N G A S
@T.B.D2022
@T.B.D2022 6 месяцев назад
W man keep working hard on your videos love them man it’s crazy how the analysis is man big W
@filthycat1699
@filthycat1699 6 месяцев назад
Yes, Burger Shop Statue Man
@TNT_drinks_soda
@TNT_drinks_soda Месяц назад
the inaccuracy of the powerscaling in this video genuinely made me look at the camera but like in a good way
@yukki825
@yukki825 6 месяцев назад
Btw silver beat Solaris in a 1v1 in sonic 06
@grenadier20
@grenadier20 6 месяцев назад
Never cook again
@JonyPlayz1
@JonyPlayz1 6 месяцев назад
Interesting video! I’m curious on what you would think about Blaze 👀I’d honestly say she’s more powerful than Silver and on the same level as Shadow and could probably beat base Goku, but that’s just me lol
@Jaxxes1991
@Jaxxes1991 13 дней назад
Key points for Shadow, Neo Metal Sonic, and Silver that give them more advantages. As said through Gerald’s research, Shadow has a major advantage of being immortal to basically all possible causes of death except for losing control of his power without his inhibitor rings. Neo Metal copies biodata to gain advantages and mimic the target’s attacks which could even potentially mimic the abilities of Ultra Instinct. Silver does have some offensive attacks with his psychokinesis such as the psychic knife and could also use the psychic shield in super form. Combine that with ESP and Meteor Smash and we’ve got a major upper hand for Silver.
@SEESBoy-hy8jz
@SEESBoy-hy8jz 6 месяцев назад
Archie Sonic claps
@Truepupule
@Truepupule 6 месяцев назад
I laughed at every character he said up to Archie Sonic, keep up the jokes!
@projectpst
@projectpst 6 месяцев назад
But can Goku beat Kirby? No.
@GabrieIPlayz
@GabrieIPlayz 6 месяцев назад
Yes
@user-lb9iv5rm2d
@user-lb9iv5rm2d 11 дней назад
Yes
@UsoppDgreat
@UsoppDgreat 5 месяцев назад
Things to consider, just scaling wise on gokus base form, as the series continues, gokus base form just gets massively stronger each arc, from barely being able to destroy a planet to him basically having the power to blow up the entire universe in base form as he has shown to be stronger than kid buu who was stated that he was going to destroy the entire universe, and the dragon ball universe scaling is honestly a crazy concept which is at least low multiversal
@theintenseguy4671
@theintenseguy4671 5 месяцев назад
Kinda wish you went over Blaze too. She's proved to be an amazing fighter with plenty of abilities to keep Goku on his toes and her Burning Blaze form rivals Super Sonic in power. And Goku isn't completely immune to fire, he's had trouble with guys like Nuova Shenron, whos moveset is almost entirely fire based. I don't think Blaze is gonna push Goku to go Ultra Instinct but I do believe she'd get as far as Super Saiyan God or maybe Blue.
@JakerTaker
@JakerTaker 6 месяцев назад
I am just going to mention Downplay the Hedgehog episode 6 for anyone who wants to that. (It’s a Sonic vs Goku video if that wasn’t obvious.)
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
I highly recommend reading my feats(don't take them as your own feats,please look for your own.Thank you)
@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08
@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08 4 месяца назад
5:59 a few things 1: Goku has been shown to be even faster than time against Hit who can literally freeze time who Goku manged to match in power 2: Thats not how istant transmission works in the actual series
@2ambivalent.
@2ambivalent. 24 дня назад
The disrespect to goku is insane, sonic has absolutely no way of winning
@_Whyro_
@_Whyro_ 6 месяцев назад
2023 collection video when??
@SupersonicBentheyoutuber
@SupersonicBentheyoutuber 6 месяцев назад
Goku is bulletproof.
@porobotboyxxx
@porobotboyxxx 6 месяцев назад
12:17-12:23 He stole the SGW from Eggman since it was already made of Chaos Energy to begin with, but Eggman wasn’t having any of that and made Super Sonic mess up the SGW.
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
Alot of your points were wrong,you were saying that Super Silver couldn't beat Solaris 1v1,whiles it was stated that Solaris existed in the past,present and future.So Super Sonic has to fight Solaris in the Present timeline,Super Shadow had to fight him in the past timeline,and Super Silver had to fight him in the future.And Current Base Sonic has surpassed Solaris.This is Frontiers Sonic,and you didn't even include Frontiers feats, Frontiers Super Sonic was able to defeated Giganto who isn't even the strongest titan,and Giganto was stated to be stronger than Infinite,who is stronger than the Master Emerald which has infinite strength,he surpassed the Master Emerald because he was powered by the Phantom Ruby which it is stated that the Master Emerald is weak in comparison to the Phantom Ruby ,this means that Super Sonic alone could one tap even TUI Goku from the Manga because this feat means that Super Sonic is beyond boundless in strength,and Base Sonic alone has some crazy speed feats,in Sonic Forces,he was able to run so fast and escape null space.And null space was stated to have no exit,and don't bring up the fact of the custom char helping Sonic,Sonic Team just wanted the player to feel part of the story,and Current Base Sonic is High Outerversal at best,and you also ignored the new Super form from Update 3 of Sonic Frontiers.This new Super form is infused with Cyber energy,and it made Super Sonic from not doing any damage to Supreme(With the Ends strength and power and healing abilities)to being able to smack him around as if he was playing with him with that serious look.And I think you should recreate this video and learn more Sonic feats before downplaying Sonic and saying that his Super form matches SSB Goku,even Base Sonic is so overkill for even UI Sign Goku.(I will add more feats on a reply to this comment).And don't say that Goku also has crazy speed feats just because in the Universe 7 vs Universe 6 Tournament Arc that SSB KKx10 Goku broke out of Hits time skip,thats how DB works.If a warrior is stronger than the other,than the weaker ones abilities won't work,as shown in Tournament Of Power where Hit fought Jiren.
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
Even in the anime Sonic X(Which contains one of the weakest versions of Sonic and Shadow and other characters) It is confirmed for episode 77 that Super Sonic and Super Shadow have unlimited speed and strength.And that's one of the weakest versions of STH.That already can contend with Gokus God forms,and Current Game Sonic in Base is far beyond this.
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
And it is even confirmed in Sonic Frontiers that the Super forms are invulnerable
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
And the part you were talking about Eggman ripping out the chaos emeralds out of Sonic in Sonic Unleashed in 5 seconds,and you were saying that the emeralds have endless power,well that is true,but your statement about Eggman ripping them out of Sonic is explained completely biased wrong,Eggman had prep time and he electrocuted Sonic with Dark Gais energy which is negative energy so it effects the Chaos Emeralds because they are made of positive energy.Why are your statements so WRONG!.And you think that just because MUI Goku fights on pure instinct that he can dodge any attack(Why are you lying to yourself)HAVE YOU READ THE DBS MANGA AT ALL.Bruh you really need to recreate this video and you don't even know that Game Sonic(Mainline Sonic)has innacesible speed.And how dare you even compare Archie Sonic's base form to MUI Goku.You keep overatting Goku too much.Bruh
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
And Game Sonic in Base is Outerversal(I already explained why he is)And Archie Sonic is Hyperversal in base(I post feats on why).Game Super Sonic is beyond boundless(beyond infinity)and Archie Super Sonic in Boundless(Infinite)(Will post feats).Game Sonic has all the Ws
@Nexus99866
@Nexus99866 6 месяцев назад
And Gokus instant transmission is not an ability that he can spam over and over around a robot or opponent.There has to be a life force or creatures energy for him to lock on too to teleport to that life force or living creatures energy,And Metal Sonic is a robot,and it was even stated in a guide on Sonic CD that Classic Metal Sonic(A younger,weaker version of Metal Sonic)and Classic Sonic(younger and weaker version of Sonic)were faster than time itself.So even the weaker versions of the characters you are downplaying can speed blitz Goku
@wpetersen3621
@wpetersen3621 6 месяцев назад
...Who let him cook?
@king_ratio8991
@king_ratio8991 6 месяцев назад
Idk but who ever did should stop 😂
@JesusFreak-ex7on
@JesusFreak-ex7on 5 месяцев назад
Hold up, Sonic Shadow and silver all creamed Solaris in super form in a 1v1 I say it was a 1v1 because they all faced him in different timeliness so that wasn't being fair to silver
@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc
@ROUGETHEBAT-iw8dc 6 месяцев назад
Answer ROUGE 1 shots final form goku like it’s nothing
@BDSFormula1
@BDSFormula1 6 месяцев назад
8:47 where is the kaioken
@Jelly_shy_guy_man
@Jelly_shy_guy_man 6 месяцев назад
Erm actually erm where’s Mr krabs since that um he’s in fall guys and sonic is also from fall guys, and Mr krabs can **crab rave starts playing**
@ele4nt
@ele4nt 5 месяцев назад
As some other comments have said, game sonic super forms could possibly take this. Super forms fought time eater and solaris, where in TailsTube Tail's canonically states that there could be an infinite amount of alternate timelines, which the time eater was destroying all of space-time whilst Solaris' presence was capable of consuming all existing timelines. Besides this, you could also include maginaryworld, that has an insane amounts of dreams that are their own universes, in which the time eater and solaris were destroying all of. I've seen scaling for pushing this to Low Complex Multiverse level since maginaryworld is stated to have 4th dimensional infinite space, alongside a passage of time, making it a total of 5D, in which upscales everything prior. Immeasurable speed can also be debated from being stated to "fly through the end of time" (implying they had to fly through time to get to the end of time) and dodging attacks that appear in the past present future by solaris. anyway yea i should stop now
@dankmemes4744
@dankmemes4744 6 месяцев назад
#1 any Archie character #2 solaris: cant be killed unless you can freely time travel #3 dark gaia: shoots bullets that ignore super sonic invincibility #4 neo metal sonic: it would be much more difficult for metal but he can copy goku’s abilities and transformations when could let him when. Also goku doesnt have the power of friendship. No one else has a chance
@Bralore125
@Bralore125 2 месяца назад
Silver also has to have the other super hedgehogs to go super
@TeamEmerald3
@TeamEmerald3 6 месяцев назад
Honestly super sonic and super shadow alone beats the frap out of ultra instinct goku with all of his variants
@spiderzsonic6581
@spiderzsonic6581 6 месяцев назад
​@@toonsy1596you don't know how powerful are sonic characters
@matitheanimator
@matitheanimator 6 месяцев назад
​@@toonsy1596no proof?
@matitheanimator
@matitheanimator 6 месяцев назад
@@toonsy1596bruh
@trethomas9202
@trethomas9202 6 месяцев назад
Alright so you thinking Goku would win isn't bad but Sonic fights GODS and PLANETARY threats on a daily basis like it's normal which it is, Solaris, Dark Gaia, Time Eater, Chaos, EVEN The End FROM SONIC FRONTIERS AND THAT'S MODERN SONIC and the Titans from Frontiers have been stated to have the power of the Chaos Emeralds AND Master Emerald and Sonic beat them in his Super Form so really Sonic is taking the W AND THAT'S NOT EVEN MENTIONING Super Sonic 2 FROM SONIC FRONTIERS but aside from that great video
@FluffyPumpy
@FluffyPumpy 6 месяцев назад
That Peter griffin Fortnite gameplay 🔥
@supermarioewan0865
@supermarioewan0865 6 месяцев назад
Doesn’t matter Uncle Ben, Bully Maguire would SLAM Goku.
@GerardKwey
@GerardKwey 6 месяцев назад
Ngl this was the most horrible scaling video, you have zero knowledge on neither series or characters' feats or powerscaling in general 💀 you need to scale cosmologies, how big they are, how each character scales to the cosmology, then go from there to see who wins You really said MUI Goku can dodge any attack, not only does that scale nowhere and the only depending factor here is speed, in which Sonic characters dwarf him and his ultra instinct, but Jiren kept up with him, and Gas, Granolah, and Frieza beat and/or one shotted him in that form, so he's not "auto-dodge" Dawg said ultra sonic is even with UI Goku, and implied Goku is above the Super genesis wave, dawg the Super genesis wave did not affect "1 million universes", both Megaman's, Archie Sonic's, and even game Sonic's multiverses have infinite universes stated in both the comics and Ian Flynn's word please leave the kitchen mane 🙏😭😭
@porobotboyxxx
@porobotboyxxx 6 месяцев назад
12:57-13:35 Super Sonic is confirmed stronger than Ultra Sonic since it involves 7 Super Emeralds why Ultra Sonic involves just 1. Plus Ultra Sonic can only effect non-living things, so the best Ultra Sonic can do is use elemental attacks or BFR against Goku.
@ironpiyepic2666
@ironpiyepic2666 6 месяцев назад
Unlike you... I have all this archie info at the top of my head
@ultimatestopmotion910
@ultimatestopmotion910 15 дней назад
Wait I swear that hyper Archie sonic existed 💀
@sharzinlalebazri5673
@sharzinlalebazri5673 6 месяцев назад
The fact that I can't even say "Solaris could probably stand a chance against Goku" (and I mean canon Goku, because Xeno Goku is apparently just on another level) with certainty shows how much Dragon Ball's constant power creep has gotten out of hand.
@GerardKwey
@GerardKwey 6 месяцев назад
Goku cannot, in no way shape or form, interact with Solaris since he's stated to be beyond the concept of dimensions, let alone even hope to harm him since he doesn't come close to what he can do.
@Poindexstar
@Poindexstar 6 месяцев назад
Nah I'd win
@jacksoncaswell2.0
@jacksoncaswell2.0 6 месяцев назад
If it took SSB to beat metal overlord/neo metal sonic that would mean he’s stronger than everyone in the buu saga, idk that’s a stretch I’d say super saiyan 2 at most
@sonicthehedgehog1606
@sonicthehedgehog1606 6 месяцев назад
Bro a low multiversal vs outerversal? Sonic neggs the verse
@spiderzsonic6581
@spiderzsonic6581 6 месяцев назад
The truth depends on their versions or transformations.
@cosmicblob8799
@cosmicblob8799 6 месяцев назад
As you said, you don't know as much about dragon ball as you do sonic, so this isn't meant to be a attack or anything like that, I just wanted to point out something I noticed. (Game) Shadow, at full power, no inhibitor rings, and in his super form, would still get stomped by base form Goku. Literally nothing Shadow has ever done in his career matches him. In Battle of Gods, once Goku went super saiyan god for the first time, that power became his base. Once he powered down, he kept the power he received from going SSG. Then, added super saiyan on top of that. AND THEN, added another level of super saiyan, Blue, on top of THAT. What does this mean? Well. In his new base form, Goku clashed fists with Beerus. Which shook the entire UNIVERSE. It was stated that with their strength, there was a possibility they could destroy their universe in its entirety. And the world of Dragon Ball is canonically THOUSANDS of times bigger than the Sonic world. And this stuff was at the beginning of DBS. In the Broly Movie, Gogeta blue was literally able to shatter reality itself with his punches. And Gogeta is just Goku and Vegeta fused. So Goku literally is one half of a reality destroyer. And remember, Sonic, Shadow, and Silver's victory over Solaris wasn't a fight they won with pure strength, but by targeting Solaris' weak point, and then taking him out from the source. The gods in Dragon ball on top of being way more powerful than Sonic gods, don't really have exploitable weak points, so the argument that a lot of people make that "Well Sonic has beaten gods and Goku hasn't!" Doesn't really mean much. And for the cherry on top, Goku doesn't even need to use instant transmission to counter chaos control. Because Goku was able to phase through a time stop, by PUNCHING THROUGH IT. So yeah I don't think Goku needs SSGSS to defeat Sonic or Shadow. At the absolute MOST, and I mean FULLY High-balling here. I see a fully powered Sonic and Shadow squeaking a victory through base Goku. But if he uses Kaioken, Sonic and Shadow are GONE. Again, no hate, Great video!
@cosmicgamer8693
@cosmicgamer8693 6 месяцев назад
I would agree but I’m not going to fully say that bass Goku will destroy both sonic and shadow combined because realistically speaking with all of the facts all of the gods Sonic has fought it would give Goku a hard time to even play him but at the same time I still do see game sonic losing Goku but when it comes to Archie sonic and he was mostly talking about Archie sonic for some reason that’s where the line crosses and I don’t see Goku winning that one at all at least anime and Zeno but comp Goku has the highest chance of actually doing something against Archie sonic
@cosmicblob8799
@cosmicblob8799 6 месяцев назад
@@cosmicgamer8693 I agree, Archie Sonic can't lose to basically anyone, which is why I specified I was talking about game sonic and shadow. In the video, he said that game shadow could fight and maybe match SSGSS goku, which I don't think is the case.
@darklight1171
@darklight1171 6 месяцев назад
​@@cosmicblob8799the problem is that shadow doesn't get nearly enough screen time to show the feats to beat Goku only thing that's always stated is that he nearly always matches sonic.
@darklight1171
@darklight1171 6 месяцев назад
​@@cosmicblob8799also your time skip point is really bad since that's how most powers work in dragon ball your stronger than the enemy? Than your hax most the time won't work. (But your only valid point is strength) also don't use the absorbed into ssg base form since it pretty much only stayed until he went god again. Because Vegeta was never stated to get this same boost but completely matches Goku? (And in both the anime and manga cabba is said to match them in base form unless your trying to tell me a kid with alright ki control can control himself from destroying the universe....) and the gods that you keep mentioning are nearly all featless (the only valid ones being beerus and zeno and even than) Sonic has fought much tougher so I don't understand the downplay I keep seeing especially when sonic has only really shown two gods so stop comparing gods and compare all strong enemies. (Also saying the dragon ball multiverse is larger isn't the best either considering theres been stated to be many different timelines and dimensions not even including universes so that point is also not the best.) Plus the speed difference is absolutely ridiculous that Goku can't really do anything if he can't touch him.
@cosmicblob8799
@cosmicblob8799 6 месяцев назад
@@darklight1171 1. If Goku and Vegeta both became Super Saiyan Gods, and can both match each other in power, then it's pretty reasonable to assume they both got the new base, or maybe they didn't, it could literally go both ways. 2. Cabba being as strong as Goku and Vegeta is indeed weird. But that can be chalked up to DB's weird power scaling. Just because they said Cabba is as strong, doesn't discredit the fact that it is literally stated that Goku and Beerus were about to shatter their universe. (Not multiverse, got that wrong.) 3. The universe of DB IS larger than the Universe of STH. Because it is confirmed that the universe of Dragon Ball is larger than our own, which is what Sonic's world is based on. (Again, I'm talking about game sonic here. No archie stuff.) 4. Speed difference? Of what kind? Because of Light-Speed-Dash, Comments from Omega, and outrunning a black hole, we know that Sonic is Light speed at the least. But because of how DB power levels work, as you get stronger, you also get faster. And seeing from how ever since DBS (And arguably the Buu saga) characters started to casually go past light speed, I don't see Sonic speed-blitzing Goku. And even IF sonic is faster, Goku has fought people explicitly stated to be faster than him before. I still think that no matter how you scale Sonic, Blue Goku stomps.
@ShadeBaxterLive
@ShadeBaxterLive 6 месяцев назад
depends on who the writer wants to win.
@CbobLego
@CbobLego 6 месяцев назад
Goku is all powerful, so nah. No one’s beating him. EXCEPT ADDING ME BACK ON PLAYSTATION
@SSB_Gogeta9001
@SSB_Gogeta9001 6 месяцев назад
He has a form beyond super and is canon which is called super sonic 2 or cyber super sonic
@Zomque_MILK
@Zomque_MILK 6 месяцев назад
"You know who ELSE can beat goku?"
@user-ir3iq3pl3e
@user-ir3iq3pl3e 6 месяцев назад
MY MOM!
@omega6213
@omega6213 3 месяца назад
Sonic can stop 1 MILLION UNIVERSES. Goku can’t win but with his giant UI form…
@Bralore125
@Bralore125 2 месяца назад
Whis get the friend maker
@c.j.9536
@c.j.9536 6 месяцев назад
Finally a video that explains that no sonic characters can beat Goku Though I should address I doubt super shadow would make Goku go blue since super beings are around planet to multi planet level since they’ve been shown to survive planets blowing up in their faces. So at best I think Goku would need either ssj 1 or maybe 2 to beat super sonic 3 is just overkill. Although with how powerful Goku is it’s highly likely he’s end the fight with a single punch even before the fight begins and well before sonic going super
@Zt1822
@Zt1822 5 месяцев назад
😂
@Linkfan0001
@Linkfan0001 5 месяцев назад
i mean he did explain why base archie sonic would stomp goku in UI right before he gave goku the win but sure man 🤷‍♂
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 6 месяцев назад
0:20 No no, make a video on that
@willthegreat1
@willthegreat1 6 месяцев назад
First you only use the game variant’s of the other characters but Sonic. Then when you get to Sonic you use his Archie counterpart for some reason. And after basically explaining why he’s one of the most busted characters in fiction you say he still loses…. Ok😂
@annesavisaboochuy
@annesavisaboochuy 6 месяцев назад
thats not even true? a big part of silvers is comics. he even talks a large sunny on super neo metal sonic
@willthegreat1
@willthegreat1 6 месяцев назад
@@annesavisaboochuy but we’re using the game version of these characters, the canon versions. Bringing up the Archie comics aren’t necessary when the IDW comics are supposed to be canon to the games.
@maffoo9775
@maffoo9775 6 месяцев назад
Okay, but can any of them defeat Monkey D. Luffy?
@user-os5gt1ch3m
@user-os5gt1ch3m 6 месяцев назад
Yes
@Mrsonic126
@Mrsonic126 6 месяцев назад
There is no debate obviously yes
@BDSFormula1
@BDSFormula1 6 месяцев назад
13:48 read the manga
@Communicating2_Realnoclickbait
@Communicating2_Realnoclickbait 6 месяцев назад
somebody stans goku here
@BDSFormula1
@BDSFormula1 6 месяцев назад
@@Communicating2_Realnoclickbait no I think Archie Sonic would win, it's just, UI appears a lot more than bulbasquirtle let on
@matitheanimator
@matitheanimator 6 месяцев назад
And this isn't ARCHIE sonic at all
@BDSFormula1
@BDSFormula1 6 месяцев назад
@@matitheanimator yeah I’m game Sonic would have a hard time
@matitheanimator
@matitheanimator 6 месяцев назад
@@BDSFormula1 prove it
@HopefulBlue
@HopefulBlue 6 месяцев назад
TLDW: Any character that scales to a base Sonic from Forces solos the DB verse
@HopefulBlue
@HopefulBlue 6 месяцев назад
A Super Sonic, Shadow, and Silver after 06 solos the DB verse as well
@LobotomyTC
@LobotomyTC 6 месяцев назад
What did Sonic do in Forces that was so special?
@HopefulBlue
@HopefulBlue 6 месяцев назад
@@LobotomyTCTLDR: Base Sonic at the end of Forces > Death Egg Robot w/ Phantom Ruby > Infinite w/ Phantom Ruby > Solaris > Modified Time Eater > Time Eater The super short explanation is that there are multiple in-verse and out-of-verse statements that would scale Infinite above a Modified Time Eater and Solaris. Towards the end of Forces, Eggman stated that his Death Egg Robot with the Phantom Ruby surpasses Infinite; Sonic, the OC, and Classic Sonic react to its attacks and destroyed the robot.
@OracleOfTime234
@OracleOfTime234 6 месяцев назад
@@HopefulBlue I was skeptical but shit you’re right
@MilesReset
@MilesReset 6 месяцев назад
@@HopefulBlue Infinite is not more powerful than Solaris, sorry. Just marketing.
@Joyscp999
@Joyscp999 5 месяцев назад
i am going to say you this...USE ONE CANON nothing more,just use one canon,one continuity,not others,just one
@juanmanuelsanchezbautista927
@juanmanuelsanchezbautista927 6 месяцев назад
Game sonic>>>>>>Archie Sonic
@Glitched_Out_Goober
@Glitched_Out_Goober 6 месяцев назад
Can he beat Bandanna Waddle Dee though?
@PeterOkoye-dc2sc
@PeterOkoye-dc2sc 5 месяцев назад
There are so many characters in the sonic universe they can destroy goku
@supersonicjulio8691
@supersonicjulio8691 6 месяцев назад
What about Nazo ?
@matitheanimator
@matitheanimator 6 месяцев назад
😑
@fleetforall
@fleetforall 6 месяцев назад
he plays zero build too?
@Sonicmid
@Sonicmid 6 месяцев назад
archie sonic recks him
@CHICKENRAN34
@CHICKENRAN34 6 месяцев назад
Yeah so um call me crazy but Motobug solo's Goku this isn't a fun fight.
@MelonFresh484
@MelonFresh484 6 месяцев назад
I was Playing Goku in Fortnite when this video released.
@Kjdaboi220
@Kjdaboi220 6 месяцев назад
Goku has other techniques btw
@sonicplushgod-ok3uk
@sonicplushgod-ok3uk 6 месяцев назад
what about kioken
@annesavisaboochuy
@annesavisaboochuy 6 месяцев назад
NO WAY YOU THINK MUI IS ANYWHERE NEAR EVEN BASE ARCHIE SONIC WHAT 💀
@morganginnerup
@morganginnerup 6 месяцев назад
NO! sonic wins
@oluyomilael
@oluyomilael 6 месяцев назад
what about super sonic 2?
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