Can banning characters in Street Fighter even work? 

Ban characters? There is only one character you would EVER want to ban in this context and that is the opponent's main. What's the use banning overpowered characters if the opponent never plays them? I hope you like your sub character since that's ALL you're playing!

This tournament ruleset is like a Scrub Quote turned reality

I can't help but think that banning characters in a fighting game tournament, in general, is just the equivalent of saying, "Hi we can't balance our game so don't use this character. Thanks!" I understand teams and doing something like a point system for using certain low tier characters or secondary characters might be interesting but outright banning character use just seems like a giant WTF.

Oh god, I can hear LTG somewhere

The difference between SFV and MvC is htat SFV is a 1v1 game, where MvC is a 3v3 game. You are required to learn and play multiple characters in MvC, but in SFV, you are able to learn one character and thrive. I dont think the ban will work for this iteration of SF. When Tokido plays at tournaments, I want to see him play Akuma, he is one of the best Akuma in the pro scene. I dont want to watch him play another character at a lower level. People watch the pro scene cause they want to see the game played at the highest level. Idk what they can do, something like KoF, but only require 2 character?

I guess Capcom's executives don't play their own games...

I personally feel that a team based fighting competition is a bad idea in the first place especially in a game like street fighter where the gameplay is just a one on one

Another difference between this and UMvC3 X, is that UMvC 3 is a team game inherently, so a dynamic was being upset, rather than an entire team. Here, you're not opening up avenues for players to play creatively, and think on the fly, they simply have to adapt to a new character entirely.

This really seems like an easy way to just outright ban the opponents main

This has to be one of the dumbest idea since the ads. Mobas have way over one hundred characters, much more limited moves (most only actually have 4). And would completely ruin players who excel at just 1 character (IE: most of high level players). It takes MUCH LESS TIME TO MASTER MOBA CHARACTERS. And thats why the picks are so volatile in these games. Pro moba players pick whatever is high tier and available.

Yeah. Banning characters in a setting such as this one seems odd. We'll just have to wait and see how this plays out. Love your videos dude. Keep it up!

Street Fighter, a game that really doesn't require character bans, is announcing character bans before Overwatch, a game that could very well see its extremely expensive pro league die in its second season without character bans. The world has definitely gone mad.

The concept of this doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. They're just banning each others mains and fighting with their second choice every time.

So I think we are thinking a bit too small Capcom is trying to get in on Esports even more by pressing into the game area that is reserved for like cardgames like hearthstone where they try to dramatically increases variants even if it isnt usually in the favor of the better player because it looks good to the audience. I think this kinda ban per round only works if the game itself is build around it and had a lower bar to entry to where you would normally have 3 or 4 viable mains

Funny to watch this video after just watching week 10 of SFL. Personally I like the 'character ban'-rule. It gives the format a unique spin. Some strategies where really fun. For example: Justin Wong banning Dual Kevin's Rashid, so he would play G, so Nephew couldn't play G. Another fun thing was the 'Free Laura'-meme. An the other hand, Shine never got to play his main. All and all I think it's personal preference. This works in this season for me, but the rule can be a total disaster in the nest season and the hate this rule gets/got is understandable.

the UMvC3 tournament you mentioned sounded intriguing. reminds me of the character auction tournaments. definitely interesting for games with a small group of viable teams / characters and an established meta.

If I was in this tourney. My team would say no one. If they would kick us from the tourney for saying no, it wouldn't help them at all.

So Ya'll wanna announce a Street Fighter Pro League but nothing about new content for Season 4 regarding towards updates and characters........ Ok Capcom

At that point you defeat the whole purpose of competition. It really puts people in a compromising situation which in turn won't exactly be fair. Casual tournament events should be more of a thing

I think you're oversimplifying the strategy that would go into character bans. Yes, it's not on the same degree as MOBA bans, but hear me out: You can only ban one character, and there are 3 players on your opponent's team. You have to choose which player's main you want to ban. But also, If my memory is right, the character you choose to ban also applies to your team. So if Punk is on the opponent's team, but the best player on your team also plays Karin, do you want to ban Karin?

This video got suggested to me right after watching 2020 JP SFL's Grand Finals and I honestly think these takes against the ban aged pretty poorly. It played a huge part in the strategy of Daigo's, Nemo's and Tokido's teams during the Grand Finals. If it weren't for the ban, maybe we would never see Daigo having amazing sets playing Kage or, even worse, we wouldn't see the completely absurd Sako's Menat brought.

Under these *very specific circumstances* I like the idea -- it's one ban for each team, right? So most team members will still be playing their mains, and whilst I do think most bans will just be "Who does their anchor main? What does Google say?" I still think it could be pretty interesting given that SF's competitive roster is slightly on the smaller side compared to, say, Tekken, making 'friendly fire' bans more likely, with far higher chances that someone on your team plays that character too. I think it would be a complete disaster outside of teams, but for this specific kind of competition, I can definitely see the appeal.

Looks like they saw the character ban feature from HoTS and LoL and thought it would be interesting for street fighter but the problem is those games are 5v5 and have around 100 characters last time I checked

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So... people hate on chat that everyone use (for example) Cammy on tourneys and when they have the chance to ban a character they hate that they will not see a character? wtf? I play Paladins (i know, lame) buuuut competitive mode have a ban system that works fine, if they at least try this SF ban mode before getting mad on twitter maybe would be fun, i know that people want to use their mains but we have a 4 year game with 35 characters.

i don't play professionally, but i'd want to fight my opponent at his/her very best using the character they are most confident with...

WHAT, FUCK CHARACTER BAN. People should be able to play as whatever character the prefer and i agree with you in non serious event.

If a character is so broken that it may require a ban... Why not go directly to put a Hot fix nerf to pull him down instantly

In a 1v1 fighter character bans is dumb (unless a character is OP etc) If it was a 3v3 fighter like dbzf or umvc3 I'd actually be down with testing it out and seeing if it's any good

I’m honestly surprised fighting games don’t do this.. I play a lot of ranked Smite ( a MOBA) and banning characters is implemented thing. Each team gets between 2-6 bans depending on the ranked mode. It works so well in Smite. Maybe it won’t translate well but honestly I’m tired of playing against the same 3 characters every game on DBFZ everyday... well it’s just my opinion

God, I hope the street fighter community goes back one game like with brawl to melee.

Good stuff. More videos please

I think it would be much better for marvel vs Capcom as a regular thing. People tend to play a wide pool of characters in that game so it would be soooooo fun. Theres a lot of really enjoyable teams but they aren't worth shit next to the 50/50 and 0 to death type teams. Street fighter doesn't require you to play more than one character so most people specialize way harder. Seems a little nutty. It would probably be more fun to require each team to play a total of ten characters total or something drastically different that doesn't involve someone needing to balance developing their main with potentional needing to have a secondary on the off chance they might get banned you know. There's better ways to get more characters in play.

Wasn't Akuma banned in Street Fighter Turbo? There was precedent for banning a Street Fighter character.

The sole reason for a pro league is to watch a high playing level in the matches. For sure the players must have one or two pocket characters for any purpose but at the end of the day people (and players) want to watch the Best of the best, how tournaments are going to achieve that if You don't let them use their mains? Imagine any other sport working like that, imagine the coach of the Real Madrid deciding that he will ban Messi when they play against the Barcelona. Banning in fighting games is just a last resort, not a standar rule.

In games like 3s bans just make a new top tier

Please make more short FGC video like this!!!

DDR controller? So if i know someone that knows SF AND is a DDR god, would he easily kicks everyone butts? As for the character ban: I don't know, on one side, we will see more characters plaued on tournament, but on the other, players that especialize in one character may suffer from it, so i don't know, but props to Capcom in creating a team tournament. And, in the Be My Guest, are you going to mention the mind shattering Heihachi, Link and Spawn on Soul Calibur 2, or one of the ogs, like KOF 94, where characters from Fatal Fury, Art of fighting, Ikari Warriors, Psycho girl Athena (can't remember the original name of the game, this is just a guess) and oc together in an epic fighting game (screw Rugal, too op in 94)

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Don't ban just do coop cup style if it's just fun tourney then have all the players pic random

All this does is lead to this skillful play. Mains will be banned, leading to battles of secondaries the competitors don't play as well. What was Capcom's thought process?

then why create them in the first place?

They should've just done something like an Iron Man ruleset

They've done it before with Super Turbo, it ain't anything new lol.

The SFV pro league is just on another level of weird

I like the idea for one reason. You could disrespect the other team by intentionally banning a character none of them use or ban no one.

if this was Smash Bros. everyone would probably be banning Bayonetta the whole time Edit 2:44. HA.

This wouldn't be a problem if Capcom could make a decently balanced game.

Well, the comments appear to be a big echo chamber. Not too surprising I guess, but I wanna play devil's advocate. I can actually think of two characters to ban. The first being the opponent's main, the other being the character you struggle against. Honestly, I never cared for how supposed pro-fighting gamers would pick one character and decide to only use that one in 90% of scenarios. At some point, I'm not watching someone play Akuma, I'm just watching another Akuma. Of course, I get it though. We don't live in Smash Melee world where everyone is using Fox or whatever. Banning a Fang main from using Fang just makes the fight less interesting when he now has to use something more typical. So, I get it, but I see this ban stuff being fun to use on the players that pick the usual high-tier characters that I'm tired of seeing. It's just too bad there is no way to stop it from making the match more boring by banning those gimmick players that use weird characters for the attention.

Akuma would be banned most of the time, shin akuma even more.

I'm for it, I think this game is boring rn and needs some random shit tthrown in to liven it up.

Ban the fucking game for god sake Jajajja..... poor capcom karma is a bitch.

This isn’t really a big problem. But that logo looks awful.

Sfv played on dance dance Matt's 😲😲,,🤣🤣🤣 that would be epic as fuck doe

Hopefully no one is a one trick pony

Ban Bayonetta Ban MetaKnight

Jesus, what happened to the good ole days where FG developers focused more on the casual side of fighting games rather than competitive? 😔

Why do this it seems like a fools act

Ban Blanka. Just because.

Dont worry Everyone Mortal Kombat 11 is almost here

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I cant say its a bad idea. It sounds like a nice change of pace honestly. Ill give it a chance at least :)