Blame the whole marketing strategy of Kpop, they encourage shipping & it is them that sexualise the relationship of idols, that lead to fan fiction, plus the other strategy of selling them as "boyfriends" and not allowing them to date, it is literally creating and a obsessive fan culture, where fans think they have a right to dictate what the artist and other fans can or can not do.
V addressed this type of shipping and expressed in no uncertain terms that it is delusional and unhealthy. This sexualizing it is clearly the authors delusions. It also victimizes the real life subjects of these fictions. I believe they should sue.
I think the author is well aware of what she is doing. The fact that her work can potentially bring harm to a real person and she is okay with that already tells you what kind of a person she is. I believe one gets what one gives out. Let fate handle this. Meanwhile let us support and pray always for the well being of our bangtan men, specially for the one being unfairly targeted. That's just my opinion.
It's not one but many out there write fan fics literally 18+ which is disgusting because when you write something you need to imagine it and imagining your idol in such way and saying its just for entertainment when we know that while reading something not everyone can be so practical definitely they will imagine stuff I am not saying I'm against fanfic but I'm against 18+ explicit fan fics involving yourself with idol to satisfy those shits shouldn't be supported... Comedy ff, family ff ,friends ff, romance without 18+ ff is ok but 18+ is extremely ddisappointing because there should line between idol and Boyfriend Husband etc we sometimes can't even imagine some stuffs with boyfriend ,husband too that much explicit content they will write..... It's just not great Idea and every fandom should understand this that not everyone who reads ff are strong enough to not to imagine it's basically sexual harassment that's it I said wwhatI said if an individual in society see anyone and imagine those stuffs with them it's harassment and this is too.
The assumption is that all readers can distinguish between what is real and what is imagined. All readers aren't mentally sound or healthy, so they act on the fiction rather than accept the reality. This is where fan fiction can become a bit dangerous. Fan fiction based on real life persons has to be more careful it doesn’t negatively impact the real person's life. I believe that citing artistic freedom or business freedoms doesn’t protect us from our responsibility to each other as human beings.
How is that different from television, tv, or video games? There is always a chance someone crazy will be unable to distinguish between reality and fiction. That doesn’t mean no one is ever allowed to make a movie about a serial killer again.
I both agree with you and agree with @sherb. Creators should be mindful to ensure that their products centering real life fantasies are projected as being fantasies, but there is just so much creators can reasonably do. Beyond that, it shouldn't be on the creators, and it shouldn't lead to a ban on smt if some in the audience are not using reasonable discretion abt their product.
Además, intencionalmente creo la controversia sabiendo el odio que existe entre el shippeo, así empezemos por la mentalidad de ella...cuando son personas tan conocidas con fandoms tan controversiales, está atizando una hoguera sabiendo que al final es ella la q va a recoger el dinero de entre las cenizas...por eso no estoy de acuerdo con "su" libro, si al final dice q no está basado en los chicos pues entonces vemos que al final, realmente no tuvo la creatividad para inventar su propia historia, 💁
@@Petoto21 Exactamente, no sé por qué hacen tanta gimnasia mental para defender a una inútil inmadura y codiciosa que fue mucho más allá de escribir fics. No habría escándalo si hubiese limitado sus actividades a compartir su historia online discretamente y sin lucrar con ello. Lo de usar a JM como villano y la influencia de esto en las shippers loquitas ya es otro tema y otro nivel de cringe para debatir.
@sherb9841 The difference is television and video game are known to be fake by the those who consume the material. Fan fiction is the opposite because readers often really believe the relationships are real and that delusion is then exploited.
There's a very simple way to check whether fanfiction (especially the sexualizing ones) is a good or bad thing: replace the names with the names of your boyfriend, partner, parents and your own. And then you see if it's "uncomfortable". Taehyung', JK's or Jimin's mother probably also have an opinion on the topic!
Using BTS as base and excuse to write any fiction is simply parasitising on BTS and making money for your pocket . If you believe you are a writer and you are inspired by BTS ,use that inspiration and use other names but BTS guys names . Otherwise you have a mental issue to be resolved
I will always be grateful that people like you are using your voice and influence to bring knowledge about these issues. There are many people in this fandom who have allowed themselves to be influenced by false narratives, such as the relationships of the members with each other, with the company, about their careers and personal lives. All based on theories and assumptions to fill part of the information that is not revealed to the public, attracting so many hateful comments to real people. These people need to pay more attention to what they say online because this can cause terrible consequences for the safety and mental health of our boys. (Sorry for any grammar mistake, English is not my first language. I'm Brazilian. 💚💛)
The sad part is her "fiction" is causing a lot of hate towards Jimin. I learned about the book on twitter or RU-vid shorts. I have no interest in reading it. Supposedly she is using BTS to promote it and also is known to have written it based on them . I did see an illustration & there is no denying it is meant to be BTS members in her story. She apoligized and said she changed their names but by now it is causing harm to members.
It's not uncommon for fanfiction writers to start publishing their works, but when they do, the first thing they do is usually to distance themselves from their fanfiction for obvious legal reasons. Changing names is all well and good, but what struck me with this author is that she still had the original fanfiction up, refused to delete it, and was promoting her book through a taekook hashtag, clearly using BTS's popularity for her own promotion. That's what struck me most about this case. I couldn't believe how brazen she was. The issue of her feeding into the hate Jimin already receives from her target audience is another issue, but I'm not sure what, if anything, can be done about that.
I honestly think fanfiction is fine it can get legally dicey trying to publish and monetize anything based off an existing IP, this has been a huge talking point in the fanfic space for awhile now and I personally believe the author didn’t do her due diligence enough to separate her stories from the actual people she based it off of putting herself at legal risk. The biggest problem I really have is that a huge amount of people in this fandom that are taekook shippers truly believe these 2 members are in a relationship and have had hate campaigns for years against Jimin that has been so normalized for what they believe is him actively trying to get in between them as a couple which is a very harmful and dangerous mindset to keep feeding into without any checks in place. You saw what they did when it was announced that Jk and Jimin were going to enlist with the buddy system trying to contact the SK government to out Jimin as gay and a danger to be around, absolutely vile behavior. Saying everything he does is disingenuous and for FS, I’m honestly so sick of it and no one ever truly calls them out on it.
Healthy?? I don’t think it’s healthy… it is just tolerable imo.. not bc all fanfic are bad, not like tht.., but bc fanfic often can lead to unhealthy obsession/ delusional behaviour.
In Chile there is also an author who published her taekook fanfiction as a book. I would never read it, but I know what it's about and I think it's absolutely unethical for someone to make money using their names like that, and I believe that definitely Big Hit should sue them. Most shippers truly believe their fantasies and don't realise how this harms real people. It is disgusting. And I say it because I'm a reader and a writer who's curious about all genres, so I have tried to read BTS and other kinds of fanfictions and they are always disgusting, I don't have the stomach to read past a few lines. It is pure expression of personal issues and they should be ashamed to even publish on wattpad or even say those things outloud.
“When people hate the idol more than a real criminal, that’s a problem” this reminds me of “UGH“ one of my favorite songs because of the lyrics “I’m raging at the malice-filled rage, I’m raging at the rage that had to die out”
As ARMY and a Romance writer, I occasionally peruse BTS fanfic. Some is well-written; most is not. While I don't mind innocently self-serving ships, and happily envision a cup of Tae with SUGA and a Kookie, I find the heated scenarios disturbing and can rarely read past the first few lines.
Resultan grotescas las historias donde los sexualizan y erotizan y no por no tengan derecho a su "propia" vida sexual, es solo q nadie tiene el derecho de usarlos de esa manera
I've been in fandom for over 23years. Back when FF was just starting to get a foothold online. Up until then it only existed in fanzines and letters that were passed around. Shipping itself is harmless. It is the action of some people forcing their preferences at others that is an issue. Or their anger directed at someone else when they cannot control those around them to do or think the same as they do. This isn't about FF or peoples preferences in FF. It is about one person who had the power to ask that the one part of that fandom not attack any members, but chose not to do that. It is about that same one person who lied to fill their own pockets. And in doing so caused a deluge of hate comments aimed towards JM The person who wrote that book stated that the book had no link to BTS once published and yet they used BTS and BTS sub units names tags plus BTS members images to promote it- proving that to be a lie. They said they would delete all hate but only deleted hate directed at themselves and zero hate directed at JM and even incited the hate themselves towards JM through the books contents. People did not call for them to be reported to hybe lightly. Nor out of some fandom war but because of the deluge of hate and the fact this person lied and was filling their pockets using BTS to do so.
For me who is a avid fanfic reader myself.....I dont have an issue with shipping....as long its kept within fandom spaces and dont forcibly pushed onto those as facts in real life into their faces....ship all you want..... For me...I see BTS members as bros and cringe to even think of them as anything else...but hey if any of them were to be....thats private and also their business.....and who does think like that and ship seriously or for fun..its within their rights as persons with their own opinions... If other fans hates these fanfics and shipping....just stay away from them....that is why TW tags exist😅....Not because I dont like intimate fanfic about the group I stan doesnt mean others wont...I wont ruin their fun...lol And some fans seems to foget these are fanfics....fake...not real.....fictional content....hell it can be even a BTS group or member from an alternate universe....but I draw the line of using their IPs in such fictional content for monetary gains.....now the writer could be crossing questionable and legal waters if they go that far....
In my opinion it is not wrong to write fanfiction as long as it stays within the fanfiction space. Its a manner of expression, sharing your feelings and gaining joy and therapy, finding similar minded persons like you. The moment you publish it, you are crossing a boundary. Its not about joy or expressing anymore, it is about money. If using someone picture, song, music, logo etc. to make money without their permission is called plagiarizing, then using their identity in this manner is also plagiarizing!!!
I don't understand how you can call yourself an ARMY if you are shipping members together when they have said many times that they do not like it and it's not true. It's not just your opinion when you write it for public consumption. It's just plain wrong. I will say it's different if the ones you are shipping are ok with you doing that.. I know of some YT'ers that are fine with it and find it rather hilarious but when the person(s) say no then it's morally wrong.
I read a lot of fanfiction, in fact I found BTS through fanfiction. After reading several hundreds stories, I caved and looked them up on youtube. Down I fell... I'm also a beginner writer, and have written fan fiction for a coulpe of fictive shows and movies, and I find it harder to write about BTS. The need to be more respectfull since they are real combined with my way of writing makes it harder, but I won't budge on respecting them as real people. But I have to admit this is the first time I have considered how my fictional stories can influence the readers of them. With me being as old as I am, it didn't even crossed my mind that some people could take them as factual.. Releasing a popular fan fiction story after only changing the names, and then hashtag the members to attract the delulu shippers shows how little respect she has for BTS. But how much responibility does we as writers have towards the readers? Are we responsible for them not knowing the difference between fiction and real life? Delulu shippers will always find something that "proves" their "thruth"
Like you, I came to BTS through the fanfic route. One specific story, "Killer Cruise" got me curious about these 7 guys. I wanted to see how closely the personalities portrayed matched the actual people. Plus, there were moments where I thought "that feels like an in-joke, but I don't get it". And I got curious I am now 16 chapters into my third read of it. And there was still an "Ahhh... I get that now" moment. All that said - there is fan fiction out there I won't touch with a ten foot barge pole.
@@ArmantoAlex13 why? not that I disagree, but where is the limit. what is okay to write about, and how far does the responebility for other peoples incapability to differenciate between fiction and reality lay on a writer? as long as the story is written with respect, and it's clearly portraited as fiction, where is the line? any kind of negative portration of the members? any kind of fantacy elements as hybrides or vampires og alpha/omega universe? I can see that shipping may be problematic, but my stories are marked as mature and targeted towards adult readers...
@@ArmantoAlex13 of course not, as I stated in my original post. I'm talking about regular fan fiction posted on sites meant for these kinds of stories. what that woman has done are vile...
Fan fiction using real people is not okay. In China, there were a Fan fiction about two actors and the actors got cancelled because of the Fan fiction.
So what do you want? For fans not to use their imagination or fantasy regarding their favorite celebrities? That would be policing the creative freedom of others and that's not okay.
Xiao Zhan was the only one to get negatively affected by the controversy, and yet he's still one of the most famous actors around. The main controversy wasn't even about the fanfiction, but the fact that China banned AO3.
@@shanamoens822stfu. Creative freedom over real people which affects those people? You all are sick that you prefer to your sick fantasies over actual people and how it affects them. Get therapy
@shanamoens822 I didn't say we need to ban them. I don't think anyone can ban it. Just saying it's not okay. Just like if someone telling lies about you, you cannot ban them for saying it, but it doesn't mean that it's okay.
I will never like shipping of any of the members. I have been a Trekie all my life and I don't like when the sexualize those characters either even if they are fictional.... but I ESPECIALLY don't like it with real people. It doesn't matter that she changed the names. The characters are still recognizable as them and she's USING their names as hashtags to promote her work. I have been personally attacked by shippers just because I mention another bts member that they have built up an irrational hate of that member due to their belief in the shipping. While there has always been some shipping during my 10+ years as ARMY... it has never generated the kind of sick and hateful talk that it does now. Despite the clear fact that all the members really care for each other deeply as family... these people have invested in an entirely made-up hate against one or another of the non-shipped member... and it's harmfu.
It's important to realize that there is nothing wrong in fantasies, but there's no need to share your fantasies to the world and that sharing to the world can not be for someone's mental health.
The fact that an a human being who is just LIVING can be targeted by people who believe the fanfic they read is gross. It makes me sad for the rest of us.
Fanfics are fine if they are not so nasty .. I absolutely hate shippers its too disgusting .. It says a lot of what are going on in the minds of young people these days 👍
Funny, I have been thinking about this all day. I feel that fanfic ( published or on public forums) about real people is a way to get more readers, and I really don’t think that is okay. It’s a way of using the celebrities that you say that you are a fan of. These are people with real lives in which these stories can cause real life problems and situations. I have only read fanfic about fictional characters- after all they don’t have real lives that can be affected negatively by anything written.
I'm not a reader of fiction in general, I prefer to read non fiction. I liken fan fiction to the hundreds of thousands of shorts on Instagram or RU-vid, that create shipping or fictional videos about BTS. I often come across them and it's easy to get sucked down those rabbit holes. When I first became aware of BTS and their music I would click on whatever came up and it wasn't helpful. Now I'm very selective, but it's hard to avoid what's out there, unfortunately most of it isn't healthy as it distorts reality.
The problem is not fanfics but the shipping. I'm not into fanfics, but I'm fine with using others as inspiration. But even the fanfic writers I have come across mostly consider shipping real people without their explicit consent as unethical too. BTS members have always said they are brothers. It's disrespectful to ship them. People forget that these things can possibly be incredibly violating for someone. Some people might be going through something, and this can be an outlet for them. But the least they should do is limit it to places like AO3, Wattpad and Deviantart where celebrities can avoid it if they don't want to see it. It is now out in the public in places like YT and X where anyone can come across it. Some people even push it onto the members offline and in places like Weverse. It has gotten to the point where shippers are harassing their family members over delusional narratives. It's not fun and games any more. Even though this author has changed the names for her own protection, she is apparently using the members for promoting it, encouraging people to read it as a fanfic of that ship with the villianization of another member and even signing books in that vein. In SK, I think this would a violation of the artist's image rights that BTS themselves fought for and set a precedent for. I don't know about the law in France (I think that's where the author is from) and these things differ from place to place, but it is very disrespectful to say the least. Even something like FSoG made it on its own because of the smut. Most people in the general public didn't even know that it started out as a Twilight fanfic. The people consuming this particular book seem to be almost exclusively shippers.
You can write as much as you want using real people as a character guide. And you can use their names. You just can't sell for money, which you have stated here on this channel. This writer is moving the goalpost.
You really underestimate just how many Taekookers there are, they have claimed the top spot of king's choice top ship couples since 2019. These delusional people believe taekook are married, and Jimin is trying to tempt JK away from his 🤮husband Tae. I at first felt sympathy for the victims of the shipping videos, but they're so nasty and mean to Jimin that quickly evaporated. They simply refuse to accept reality, BTS are brothers, and they are all close, some of us ship close friendships like Taegi who some people think hate each other when nothing could be further from the truth. After solo stans shippers are the most toxic faction of army's, some are not army's at all, just fans of their fictional couple. I'm going to state it for the record if you hate any member you're not army, having a bias is one thing being a hater definitely excludes you from army.
I'm with you. I don't like or agree with the sexual side of fanfiction, it envades too many brains that are not developed yet or are in the wrong place to begin with and only mskes it worse. Shipping does the same thing, i believe it does. As you said it has to start at the grassroots of the problem. Parenting is one of the biggest ways to help , but some are not nor will they ever be parents. There is a difference between being parents and being birth people. Some never make it to parents. I'd do away with the shipping and fanfiction altogether.
I am not going to say every shipper/fan fic reader is a psycho, but from my exp on social media, a good number are in fact crazy. There are many shippers who seriously hate and even wish death on another member because, in their mind, said member is a villain to their love story. FF authors who choose to write members as both romantic leads and villains fan the flames of lunacy. It encourages toxic behavior, and if ppl can't see that, idk. If you are a shipper or ff enthusiast who can still love and adore every member, then this comment isn't about you.
The issue is she purposely used bts characters. Changing their names doesn’t mean that people don’t know who she’s talking about. A sexual fan fiction about real characters especially putting sexual scenarios between group members. And i thought this fan fiction had drawings that look like Jimin, v and jk? She was purposely targeting those 3 characters fan base
As others have stated fan fiction is that Fiction, it is not there to teach morals, nor right from wrong, it afterall a product of the persons imagination (some people may have questionsable imaginations but in the end it is the authors choice) as a reader/consumer you can either choose to read, like or dislike that choice is yours but the legal disclaimer put at the front stating that the characters have no relationship to the idol, would make it impossible from a legal stand point to take futher action. Where they can sue would be in those instances where people claim something to be fact or true, such as edited photos that claimed to be real, such as those of Jennie & Taehyung where it was stated they are real and proof of a relationship. In istances like that legal action can & has been taken. I think we also have to remember that Yoongi admitted that he used to write fan fiction, it is not to be taken seriously, but as entertainment. Some fans are really too "precious" & honestly need to relax.
ARMY needs to report BTS fanfiction. Fanfiction about fictional characters, is fine. Stay away from real people! It ruins lives and hurts the idols. I really dislike shipping, especially Taekook, since it has become so hurtful to our three maknaes.😭
OMG are you insane?! FanFICTION Fan. Fiction. Nobody can say what a person can or can't create! If you're going to start with doing that, it's a slippery slope for more things to be banned. Censoring is WRONG period!
@@nickeypamphile4588Of course any censoring is wrong!!! Freedom of expression is in the human rights charter. Who decides what is right and what is wrong? With what criteria? Where do you draw the line? If what is said attacks someone's physical or moral integrity, it is reportable. In the case of authors who publish books, they are monetizing their image without paying royalties. That is illegal.
This is not specific to fan fiction but I think it should be said: I have seen some great things since becoming a KPOP fan, some very inspiring acts/actions that make me believe in human good, but I've also been shocked (as an elderly person) at the degree of hate and pathology and condemnation that I've witnessed in fan culture at the same time. It falls to the person, or family and friends of people who have strong pathologies to intervene before tragedies happen. From across the world I can't do anything. But someone standing right next to a person can make a difference. Focusing on making global changes in an effort to cover the world with a safe space blanket for all, will not work, it is pie in the sky. Pathologies exist in localities, for example bullying in schools or domestic violence, for the most part that is where interventions must start. Having mental or moral problems doesn't mean nothing can be done. Reach out for help for yourself. Reach out for help for a friend, or a sibling, as a parent or whoever you are. Having mental health issues is not an excuse for self destructive or heinous acts. You can get better.
Even tho I'm not into rps (or even rpf), I do actually see shipping as a healthy way to explore one's own sexuality and preferences. I would just also say there are lines you cannot cross with it. Ppl should understand that the public figures they see are not ppl they actually know. Shipping is purely fantasy taken from one's own perspective and preferences. So, it is problematic when ppl treat ships as real or when shippers try to force shipping fantasies onto others. And taking advantage to benefit directly off using real ppl is just not smt I can condone either. Artistic freedom shouldn't shield ppl from taking advantage of others for a one-sided gain.
@@ArmantoAlex13 Sadly a majority of the fandom are shippers & mostly TK shippers. I certainly do not think reading fanfiction of real people help in anyway with discovering your sexuality but what it does do is encourage fetishism where lgbtq+ are looked upon as tools for others sexual desires. Being a gay man myself & seeing many shippers who are mostly women, actually being quite homophobic & even using "queerbaiting" as some kind of drag to other members. I see these shippers replies to ship porn & feel absolutely disgusted. I remember when I was younger having a conversation with my mum about how gay men are perceived, you have straight men getting off to lesbian porn but will show disgust at gay men & I have seen exactly the same thing online when it comes to straight women & gay man porn. The world is certainly not free from homophobia but is filled with queer fetishism. I've seen posts say "so & so is not gay, only for so & so" or "I hope so & so isn't gay but if he is I only want him gay with so & so" Sexual fanfics are just a way to use BTS members for personal gratification & shipping fics are just a way for fetishist to say they support the community.
I'm agree with all of ur points...fanfic or tv drama some people are bound to get an obsession..bcz they use it as an escapism..that's why maybe kdrama or turkish dramas are famous nowadays..personally i think authors should not include distasteful things in their story that's their responsibility..about Hybe i heard they promote it in a subtle way (maybe for business or more engagement from fans)..
I think any fanfics is just weird - if you're exploring relationships, for example, don't involve real people in any way. Invent people in your mind and keep it in your own bedroom and brain.
This comment implies fanfic in general is about real people. It isn't. I could write my own story about Hello Kitty shooting up an Ikea and it'd be fanfiction. Because it's not CANON. It's something I came up with, not Sanrio.
@@nancycaves5367 If Sanrio is really like Disney in that sense it doesn't change anything since I don't need to post the fic for it to exist. What's your point? My point was that generally nobody really cares though, unless you're blatantly making bank off it which is why events like Comiket and doujin culture in general have prospered for so long (you get about as much as you invested). As long as you respect the proper guidelines of whatever property you're making fan content of, you're free to explore your creativity through it. For example, no using logos that could make people mistake the fanwork for something official.
@@nancycaves5367 No sht Sherlock, most things are. Which is why I brought up Comiket. I just didn't know Sanrio were actively against fanart like Disney. Unless it's only if it looks official. But seeing as Sanrio is so family-friendly I guess they'd want to avoid all risks.
Bighit/Hybe does not care about Jimin........there is so much extreme hate being fueled out on Twitter against Jimin and even his family, there are so many twitter accounts open to solely defaming, dehumanizing and and trying to destroy him and his character....where is Hybe and bighit????....they are a huge company and they can easily cancel those accounts, I think the company is behind those accounts, not all but they also fuel them.
I never understood people who enjoy writing fanfic. And I do not understand people who enjoy reading these fanfictions. For the most part, these fanfictions are either obscenely sexualized or aggressive. I am unpleasant for the thought that my idols are doused with mud. I understand why this type of creativity exists, but I do not support.
With respect to fan fiction and BTS with the creation of the Bangtan Universe there are fictional characters with the same names and appearance of the members. So the line has already been blurred.
There is no sexual relationship in the Bangtan Universe so what line are you talking about .. Taehyung has said he doesn't like those type of things and Jimin faces a lot of hate from people who can't tell the difference between what is real and what is fiction .. its just downright disrespectful to the people they claim to be fans of 👍
The implication that because the group authorized these specific characters based on them to exist makes people profiting off fanfic a-okay is hilarious. You'll never be as bright as you think you are.
Um, no it hasn’t. They made that decision for themselves for the BU. That doesn’t give writers the same authority as the BTS members themselves. How would you like someone to write a fictional story about you, and say it is fine because you wrote about a fictional character based on yourself? Wouldn’t it bother you to see yourself written about that way?
I am not sure I totally agree with your statement here. I think fanfic about celebrities can be dangerous because people will buy it and take it seriously. Even if people know it is actually fiction, those false scenarios can still skew how we see the real life person. That seed has been planted. Too many people take fiction as reality already, and adding fanfic to the mix just makes the situation worse. While I enjoyed hearing about your setup of your fanfic, I wouldn’t read it because I don’t want to be influenced in seeing our boys in a negative light.
I like writing (I have completed a novel, which is unpublished yet!) so I can understand the author's needs. Maybe an author sometimes uses real people to create a fiction story. But as a writer I believe that fanfiction is different: it's based on another fictional story/character. I can accept fanfiction about a real person who no longer exists if the story doesn't change his/her historical actions and beliefs. But I can't accept fanfiction about an artist who is alive, even if the story shows him/her as he/she is. Surely, anyone can write whatever he/she wants about a famous artist, especially if it shows him/her as a bad person (morally, socially, or sexually) ONLY TO KEEP IT UNSHOWED. Using artists' identities to release something different than the artist's reality and name it fanfiction to the public (even if it's a forum) shouts HATE AND HARM to the artist. Moreover, if this kind of fanfiction becomes a novel, it would spread HATE everywhere. And why? Just because someone says he/she is a fan of a music band? The definition of a fan is someone who loves and respects the artist he/she likes. Being a fan doesn't mean the band is a fan's doll to play with them as he/she likes. By definition, the author may not have the responsibility to be moral, but an author who wants to be respectful MUST BE MORAL. Moreover, if he/she calls himself/herself a fan of the artist whose identity he/she uses to create that "fanfiction". Lastly, I also am a passionate ARMY but, this kind of BTS shippers in sexual meaning, meh, not my cup of tea. And using the purpose of fanfiction as to spread hate, combining fiction with sexual harassment, it's simply DISGUSTING. Period.
A large number of fanfics have very disturbing explicit themes, stalking, violence, abuse, r*pe n murder. Especially the trend that forcing a relationship on someone can make them fall in love in the end. Just reading the tags r frightening. I wonder if these themes bleed into the real life of the authors n the readers who love these types of works. It may be a way to let out pent-up feelings, practice the art of story-telling, but it may also give wrong ideas to susceptible people.
I have mixed feelings about BTS fanfics. I spend a lot of time on Wattpad (reading various kinds of stories) and have seen a LOT of BTS fanfics. Some are great - really fun, funny, interesting, exciting. Others I won't touch with a ten foot barge pole. And I don't go near stories where the members are shipped romantically or sexually. They just feel weird. In fact, I had been aware of BTS fanfics, before I really knew BTS. I knew who they were - but that was it. I even read some (some better than others), but I felt like I was missing a lot, because I didn't know who/and what they were talking about. Like overhearing an in depth conversation, held by strangers, about people you don't know. "Killer Cruise" was the book that changed everything for me. A funny, sweet, at times emotional, mystery set on a cruise ship; complete with slow build romance (no shipping, and nothing sexual), murders (again, not the members), mysterious disappearances, cute broken English, famous BTS in jokes 😆(that I got on my second read through, at the beginning of this year). It made me curious. Who are these guys that inspire so much love? Are their personalities anything like they are portrayed in "Killer Cruise"? (the answer is yes - especially given the situation😆). I wanted to know more. So I looked more into BTS - I already knew their names🤣. I saw a reaction to "On Kinetic Manifesto Film" and was blown away. I watched the MV over and over, then found "DNA". Then somehow (and only the algorithm knows how), I was brought to a reaction video of "Daechwita", in which the reactor admitted he had just discovered that Agust D was Suga of BTS. Again, I was blown away. The I found the MV for Agust D....oh man. I was not a fan of rap...But Yoongi... I'm still not overly fond of most rap, but BTS...They are something else. I then remembered I wanted to find out more about the guys (I was getting side tracked), and found an intro to BTS by Suga & Spice. And that was it. Two BTS MVs, Two Agust D MVs, one intro video, and I was making a nice cosy home down that rabbit hole - I never even considered looking for a way out 🤣 And all because of a Wattpad fanfiction - "Killer Cruise" by Ar040394. And yes, I am recommending it (sorry), but it's a good book; which I am currently reading for the third time. A book that changed my life by bringing me to BTS. And, I think, an example of fanfiction done well.
it´s crazy that someone find happiness in creating something hateful towards jimin because deep down they must know that jk and v loves jimin right? or are they lost from all sense of reason at this point? i am not sure i have never been down that road and never read any fan fic before, thankfully. but i am curious how that work. if they are aware that the magnae do love eachother and is just writing this for fun like you did with your book where jimin is a serial killer. than it´s fine as long as you dont use his name and people are aware that it is only based on the members in a fun way. idk if this author is a known hater of jimin, because if that is so, than she must be in the delulu stage, where it is no longer okay. because this will bring in haters like you say. this reminds me of how a cult is formed. you can´t convince people like that who is in it, that what they are beliving in a lie. and can get angry if you try and pull them out of that fantacy, and that is scary. it´s like a cult, they are cut of from the real world.
Indeed, BIGHIT does have the legal right to sue. However, the decision to pursue legal action will ultimately hinge on whether it’s worthwhile for the company, as well as its strategic business and financial considerations. This question is highly complex, with numerous variables that require in-depth analysis and answers. Your ability to highlight and summarize the issue is commendable. Well done!
@@ArmantoAlex13 The question is: Can Big Hit Sue Fanfic Author? This is not a question relevant to corporate ethics. Therefore, as every situation is different, "the decision to pursue legal action will ultimately hinge on whether it’s worthwhile for the company, as well as its strategic business and financial considerations."
@@ArmantoAlex13 The world is not black and white. Once again, "Indeed, BIGHIT does have the legal right to sue. However, the decision to pursue legal action will ultimately hinge on whether it's worthwhile for the company, as well as its strategic business and financial considerations."
So this would include fanfiction where the members are portrayed as heroes to the masses correct? Where they are also portrayed in wholesome feel good stories with platonic familial relationships... these would be included in the restrictions, also correct? I am a curious person, and these were just the questions that arose after watching the post.
To me, all posted fanfic, whether positive or negative, is the self-indulgent cop-out of needy people. By all means, write your fantasies, but keep them to yourself. I have my own dreams; don't need yours.
I don’t consider there to be a difference between good and bad fanfic, if it is about real people. A writer is still marketing on that celeb’s name even if it is just to get clicks.
Most of the fanfics I’ve run into - not looking for it - is absolutely pornography, truly disgusting stuff. Saw one where Yoongi got Jimin pregnant! I blocked that so fast.
I have enough to read, so don't partake in this type of stuff. But from the few things I run across (like here), it seems Jimin is always portrayed as the villain. Why is that? Maybe the others are as well & I just haven't run across it. It's just an observation from second hand, or maybe even third hand, contact... just curious 🤔😁
I find those kind of fanfic disgusting and disrespectful. I really do not understand what is going on in the head of those "writers" and their readers...Well, i do not want to understand either😒🤢
To me it's a case to case kind of thing. Sometimes, fanfiction can be a way for authors to write when they wanna "start" writing. However, what draws the line to me isn't the quality of the writing but the sexe side of the thing. To me, a fanfiction who clearly put an emphasis on sexes scenes isn't good. No matter the scenario, the writing if you're sexualizing reals person it's it... A fantasy... I know it can be hard to admit, but it is. But if the author can change the names without any problem.... I guess it's another scenario ? It's a really complicated topic lmao... There's many nuances but to me it's really a matter of sexualisation first. Its how I decide wheather an author has good intention or not. If you write about real person while sexualizing them AND you COULD change the names... It's... Weird. And... Maybe bad in a way. I dont know oh my god im so lost
Oh mira, que interesante. Ojalá pudieses hacer un análisis de HYBE y el trato hacia V. Acabo de ver que esto se volvió tendencia en X, y lamentablemente no tengo contexto alguno, pero sí quiero saber más al respecto y no se donde encontrar información confiable!!!! Saludos y gracias por tu arduo apoyo a BTS como siempre!!!
FacFic is FICTION. I read a lot of fanfic that uses the names of real people but know these characters have no connection to those people. Do people who read AU actually think, for example, that JK is really a shapeshifting wolf or Jimin is a fairy? Even if the story is Canon rather than AU...how could one believe that Yoongi a mob leader? The people who cannot differentiate between fiction and reality they have a mental health problem. They need assistance getting back to reality.
Maybe they don't believe fairytale stuff, but they definitely do believe that taekook is real and that jimin is a villain or something. and yes, they need assistance.
Absolutely. FanFic is only fiction and like you, I don't have any problem to differentiate it. I'm surprised this thing's even being brought up as a big issue.
To add, these shippers have had real life negative effects on Jimin. The taekook shippers were one of the main groups harassing Jimin's father to the point that he ended up deleted all mentions and pictures of Jimin from his restaurant's Instagram. These shippers regularly harass Jimin during lives and have spread false rumors about him. It's giving Larry levels of toxicity and obsession.
Fan fiction in general is a trash bag with very few hidden gems. What makes the gems is the author's storywriting talent: the characterisation and evolution of characters, the nuances and thoughfulness put in tackling a delicate topic, the depth of understanding and the quality of the writing style. It is not related to whether the characters are nice or nasty, or if they are put through upsetting, sometimes shocking, plots, or to the presence of shipping, in the case of fanfiction based on real people. In BTS fanfiction, the members are a starting point, with their personalities and very often the themes they have themselves sung about or the issues they've supported, but they are not the characters who bear their names. When the author is honest and talented, any story is a tribute. There is however a slew of untalented writers, and some whose moral compass is so unrelated to mine that I find their stories unpalatable at best, deeply disturbing at worst. That is not to say that I want them censored - I just won't read them, but I do believe they are needed by those who write them. And I don't think even the best stories should be published - if it is about making money, it stops being a tribute and it becomes exploitative.
It is hard to hear of any group member being represented negatively. Real Person fan fiction has been going on forever. It is no big deal, it is imagination. Many people when they were younger imagined marrying their favorite singer or actor. Not much harm in it as long as people do realize it is NOT REAL. I do think we need to remember that some people can't separate fact from fiction. Is that the problem of a writer exercising imagination, or a reader conflating truth with imagination? I tend to think of the difference between fan and sasaeng as a good metric.The Extreme is not a good place to go. I also don't like graphic fan fiction. And as I said above, I don't like members being negatively depicted. I am glad this particular fiction was changed from fan fiction to pure fiction. I do prefer to read character based fan fiction not real person fan fiction.
it's another way of earning a living. That author doesn't care the effects of what she write. same with kmedia...as long as money is involve, they don't care at all. no morals and no ethics...just a living thing on earth
I also find sexual shipping to be a turn off for me. Sexuality is a personal private matter based on individual preferences. That’s why printing a biased narrative depicting fictitious sexual events between real people can be problematic. Writing false statements about a person that causes harm or injury is libel, but the harmed person or party would need to file suit. In my humble opinion, fan fiction should be used to uplift the artists you favor not feed your desires. Let’s try humanizing BTS and walking in their shoes. I asked myself how would I feel if it was me being wrote about? Or a family member? I would be disturbed and very concerned for… 1. the solace of the artist (BTS) 2. For the mind of the writer 3. the minds of the readers.
Im guessing a publisher isnt even going to know its about real people. Like 50 shades was originaly a Twilight Fanfiction. Once the names are changed and the plot is not reality how are they supposed to know unless the author tells them?
It used to be that a romance novel was required to have 3 'sex scenes'. They didn't have to be explicit, per se. I wrote a trilogy years ago, but found those scenes tedious, so moved on to fantasy and light horror, but only had 1 from the 1st trilogy published, and 3 teen horror stories published online, before I had a near fatal stroke. Now, I have about 11 or 12 manuscripts that still need editing & 4 that still need to actually be finished, but I really don't know if I'll ever get back into writing again. The stroke kicked so many genetic disorders into gear, as well as leaving me with slightly damaged brain functions, all of which I've struggled to overcome as much as possible for the past 14 years, well... I keep thinking that I need to at least get all those manuscripts finished and edited, in case one of my kids wants to get them published some day. I used to love writing, but now, it seems to be all I can do to crochet for 20min or so. I suppose that, if the manuscripts are meant to be published, I'll be given the energy to at least get them to the proper point of readiness, but who knows. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
As a writer, I have never liked fan fiction. I find it lazy and also very much leechlike. Real writers spend hours, months, years, trying to create the personalities and descriptions of characters. When a writer of fan fiction uses another author's work, or uses actual real people, they are doing everything the easy way. While everyone has imagination, and everyone can fantasize about a character or a public person, we don't drag those public people or characters into books that fuel and flaunt our sexual fantasies. When the fanfiction is about a real person, I imagine the real person/idol would feel fetishized, used, and tainted. When fan-fic writers use real idols and add cruelty to their "character traits," they are muddying up the personality the idol is trying to show. For an artist to spend his life and art speaking one message and trying to get the various aspects of his soul on paper to suddenly have a whole set of people lusting over him and seeing him in a different way would be not only depressing but almost like seeing one's art and life erased. It's very cruel to "use" people for our own benefit and profit.
I won't be watching if that's the title this video is gonna have. The title is low-quality bait that makes you sound like you're prioritizing your hobby over calling out the person in question for her shameless behavior. Real-person fanfiction is cringe and should not be normalized. You can write it and read it but it should stay where it deserves to stay regardless of quality-underground. It's cringe that this got so big that even BTS might've heard about it. Profiting from real-person fic is shameless; even if you change the names it doesn't change the fact people originally read it thanks to BTS' fame.
I loathe shippers. And if you're going to write sexualized fanfic, don't write it about real people. Picture whoever you want in your head, but give them fake names or something. It's damaging to do otherwise.
I don't think BTS and Big Hit are against stories using the members as the face and name of fictional characters in a story because the Bangtan Universe exists. And they had a mobile game developed, the BTS Universe Story app, where fans could write fan fiction and use the likenesses of the BTS members. I was a writer there of science fiction, fantasy and thriller genres, light on the romance. So I also don't think BTS and Big Hit have an issue with fan fiction using the members in concept. There were rules in the game that authors were not supposed to put the members in explicit situations or present them in romance ships with each other. These rules were not followed and the game was overwhelmed with these stories and we wonder if this was part of the reason that the app was closed. I would love if Hybe/Big Hit/ BTS would make some kind of official statement on where they stand on this issue. I would love to continue to make humorous and dramatic stories with them as characters, but I wouldn't want to do anything that would make them uncomfortable. I'd like to think they would enjoy the stories my friends and I have written if they saw them. But there are plenty of shippers who think the guys don't care or would even like it, so some clarity on the issue from them would be helpful. I'm guessing they feel they are better off ignoring it than shining a light on it and drawing attention to it.
Il peut aussi y avoir un intérêt commercial dans la diffusion de ce livre, l'auteur a trouvé la bonne idée de faire la publicité en sachant très bien qu'il, y aura discutions et bien sûr ventes lucrative ,
The hate is not ok, regardless of how they are getting the hate. I don't blame the artist s for what they write. I read a lot of stuff and I happen to like fiction and I've read some fan fiction and I have no problem with it. It would never occur to me to hate anybody that character is based off of. I do understand where you're coming from though. However, I feel it falls under some of the same lines The movies or TV shows or cartoons and books that people have tried to ban or change because of how some people react. Do not get me wrong. I do not want anything bad to happen to BTS whom I love or to anyone else for that matter. I honestly do not believe that an author of any type of book can be held responsible for how someone takes it. People have taken the Bible which is supposed to be something to help. People lead good lives and use it to commit horrible crimes. I'm not religious so that's not where I'm coming from. However, I wanted to pick a book that most people view to, a book of good. I honestly do not believe that there is a good answer for this. I worry about people who take things and turn it into hate. If they really want to hate an artist, whomever that person is, they will find a reason to do so whether it's fanfic or something else. I enjoy your videos they are very insightful
The HYYH storylines are fictionalized versions of BTS. I don't see how company produced fiction differs from fictional stories written by the general public.
I personally don’t agree with fanfic in any form, Bts fights so many negative connotations in real life, why would we Army’s want made up fiction written about them. This Society, which are so delusional will turn it into something that it’s not. We should just keep speaking about the wonderful things that they do for us and society.. we should leave everything fictional and not fact alone they deal with enough of that every day.
MH bien pudo sentarse a observar las guerras de los fandoms de BTS😓 y dejar q se despedazaran y acabarán con BTS sin ensuciar su imagen...no se porq es tan difícil apoyar a cada miembro sin ofender o desmerecer a los otros...a BTS lo van aniquilar Pero los propios fandoms de los chicos si siguen estás peleas sin sentido...nos ofuscamos y caemos en sus juegos...la "escritora" esa lo único q hace es aprovechar la imagen de V y explotarla para vender sus libros, y si no somos capaces de dar respeto, tampoco lo podemos exigir....😔
I am not on social media now, apart from RU-vid but I have come across things written about the members, MUCH worse than some silly fantasy stories. These things are written about all sorts of actors and artists, not just BTS. It doesn't really bother me until people start drifting the realm of confusing fact and fiction. We all know what and where these stories are, we can just block those creators. We have a choice. We can just ignore them. But publishing an actual book and making money from BTS IP? Definitely not!💜
Bardzo to przykre, że BTS jest towarem ale to wina nas wszystkich bo wszyscy mamy większą lub mniejszą obsesję na ich punkcie i nie ma tu znaczenia wiek, pochodzenie czy wykształcenie. Nie tylko młode dziewczyny ekscytują się takimi treściami ale co dziwniejsze, gorsze są matki dzieciom, czyli osoby od których wymagało by się jakiejś dojrzałości emocjonalnej. Może to nuda i szukanie podniet? Podobnie jest z deepfakami seksualizującymi chłopaków. Potrzebne są zmiany w prawie bo tego rodzaju twórczości się nie zatrzyma ale każda taka treść winna być opatrzona widocznym napisem lub symbolem FIKCJA a brak takich oznaczeń to kara pieniężna. No i edukacja ludzi tak ja to robisz oraz wyjaśnianie armiom zagranicznym o co chodzi w tych wysyłkach bo odbierane jest to dosłownie, robi się z tego dramaty i złości a to też rodzaj fikcji lub zabawy dla celów marketingowych.
I think this is a very selfish and bad take... I normally enjoy your balanced take but it's extremely clear you are biased by you personal pleasure for fan fiction. Fanfiction mimics colonization in a lot of ways. The real people are puppets being controlled by someone with the power to create a narrative and publishing/editing rooms are not diverse spaces. These stories are akin to how history is written by the conquerors.
most are just online post so maybe it's harder, but the one she mentioned is published into books, sell, and use the member's name to promote it. now that's a problem
It would be really disturbing if certain fanfictions got forbidden. You're limiting someone's creative freedom that way. It's up to the readers to be able to separate reality and fiction. Jimin is my bias and I don't read any fanfiction that portrays him as a bad person. I don't like it, but I'm not going to forbid that author from writing him in any way she wants. Nor any other person. It's NOT REAL.
What is an Idol? A persona with an online or public persona? Isn't that what idol culture is; creating a persona? And isn't sexuality and shipping a part of that culture, supported both by the companies and the idols themselves? Isn't that what most entertainment boils down too? Couldn't Hybe kill all these ships if they wanted to? And if you look deeper into the phenomenon and history of boys love, you find a reaction to patriarchy. The author wrote a story, is that any different than other media profiting from BTS from clickbait, except she put actual work and creativity into it? Can you structure everything around not triggering the most unstable? Just look at American Politics. I keep seeing parallels between shipping wars and politics. Maybe it's just me.
Until the people who hate shipping do enough research to better understand it, they shouldn't think that they are the right ones. Personally, I love or dislike someone or something not because I have read fanfiction but because of their character, which makes me make a decision. Therefore, I believe that people who read fanfiction do not hate a member or a character bse of the ff; it is much more than that. Just like we never hate actors and actresses who are portrayed as villains because we know that it's acting. - Hybe makes content that inspires these writers; who are we to want to sue them. For example, Hybe released AYS, and in there, they have almost alienated one member, and that will depend on which side you are on: I think the reality of that content is what can make fans hate or love a member, not written fiction because we all know that the person is making up their own words(creatively and expressively); however, the content from hybe is the biggest route of *Toxicity.* - Can we endeavour to read fanfiction and then have an objective discussion about fanfiction writers? Not all villains stay as villains. In the end, they become good people. Btw, Hybe has its own Fanfiction page on Wattpad, and it has villains, too PS: Until we stop hybe from releasing such content, I think we are wasting our time trying to stop writers. Not only that, but some people will choose to be ignorant. I take some time to read scholarly material about various topics, and we need to learn more about shipping. Here are some interesting reads that I have taken some time to peruse through Sedlmeir, S., Schneider, I. and Chae, R., Love, Fantasy, and Profit: The Utilization of Shipping and Boys Love as. Lee, W., 2024. The Cambridge Companion to K-Pop. Kuo, L., Perez-Garcia, S., Burke, L., Yamasaki, V. and Le, T., 2022. Performance, fantasy, or narrative: LGBTQ+ Asian American identity through Kpop media and fandom. Journal of Homosexuality, 69(1), pp.145-168.
No, this is YOU alienating the member. It's what YOU see or want to see for a specific reasons. Either that being 1) You do not know their dynamics well enough. 2) You are a TK shipper. 3) You are a solo. 4) You are not OT7. I have seen thousands of ARMY victimising Tae over pure banter & accusing the company of pushing a narrative, which is Jikook. I have watched all of BTS content & Jimin & JK are great friends, they went to Tokyo together in 2017, yes JK made his first GCF from it which was lovely but the trip itself should show you how close they are. The problem is, because many ARMY are indeed TK shippers will refute their friendship & blame the company for pushing a ship. Would the same be said if it was say Jin & Yoongi? NJ & Hobi? Yeh the shippers love it but get out of that shipping lane & just see it as 2 great friends taking a trip. The show & Vminkook is NOT the problem, it's people like you that are victimising Tae. He even said in the first episode he was in that that is how they are even off camera. I tease my friends, if a friend comes to my house I offer them tea & tell them to make it themselves, they say they're the guest so I should make it, I say, you're my mate & you can make tea yourself, it goes back & forth, it's bantering, it's teasing, it's playful. Ok maybe Tae was a little put out that he wasn't invited but Jimin told him that he was completely & utterly welcome with open arms & they all had a great time. If YOU have a problem with how they behave then you need to deal with that because the time Tae was there was full of laughter. It's also funny how ARMY are now blaming Jimin for mistreating Tae yet JK has said exactly the same things. They JOKED about Tae being a guest, ARMY TK shippers are taking Jimin saying that as malicious which is far from the truth yet Jimin is being called a bully, an abuser, a queerbaiter & I do not see the same ARMY refuting it.
@@OnlyForThem13@OnlyForThem13 So you refer to it as victimizing Tae from a show, yet you believe that fanfiction that is made up can victimize a member. You are the very people who can hate someone because of fanfiction. I didn't see any of you stop the other ship book that was being sold in 2022, which also had Tae as the villain. And I can't say that I believe in fanfiction - it is fanfiction, and it doesn't even make sense to believe in it since the writer is making up their assumed dynamics. Who tells you that the ff is what all members' relationships are truly like. Do we not live our lives? Do they run like fanfiction? *It is definitely you who makes it toxic* how can you presume that real life is lived like how fanfiction is written? You are the very people who have clouded the reality of the members by thinking that fanfiction is the truth. Even in the very content they show, we see very little of the 24-hour relationships they have with each other, and it is from there that I assume or presume what characters they have, and it doesn't matter whether you are a solo 0t7, 0t2/3/4/5/6; that where you should all decide from. What is also shown in Hybe content has it is own distortion. You can choose to like it or not- we can all remember in life no one is perfect. As I said, call out Hybe, which distorts the situation based on the pretext of content. Writers may be called to prove that they got consent. The toxicity in the fandom arises more from akgaes than shippers. You say that you do not know their dynamics very well, yet you want to believe that fanfiction is going to make them look bad. It is fanfiction, not an autobiography or biography of BTS. The fact will remain that a person is loved or disliked based on their characteristics, not on a scenario made up in fanfiction.
Firstly I have never once in my life read a fan fiction. It does not interest me in the slightest & I am not victimising or even suggesting Tae is a victim in the show, you, KTH's & tkrs are. Do you think Tae would ask to join this show if he was mistreated by JM or JK? The problem with Jimin being portrayed as a villain in a book by a tkr is that it is not fan fiction, it is reality. Jimin has always been the thorn in TK's relationship by the mouths of tkrs themselves. I have just logged on twitter & one of the first posts I see on a report account is from a tkr calling Jimin a villain. Jimin is an abuser, a s3xual predator, a bully, violent, a p3do, harasser, all coming from not just tkrs but also solo akgaes & other fandoms. January 2023 tkrs trended that Jimin is a p3do, tkrs in 2020/2021 took to Weverse to demand Jimin leave TK alone & to leave BTS along with many d3ath threats. Jimin's first d3ath threat was from a TK shipper. TK RU-vid channels have convinced millions that Jimin is king of queerbaiting fan service. Jimin is the real life villain in JK & Tae's life not just in fan fictions. I did not say I didn't know their dynamics because I do know to a degree, we only know so much of their dynamics because we are not privy to their personal lives but from what we do get to see is that they all get along like family, families bicker, they tease, they play, they fight but they still love each other. If you see their playfulness as being toxic then maybe you should stop supporting BTS or stop shipping them because it's you that is offended, not them. You don't like what you see but they seem to be perfectly fine with their playful banter. It's definitely a you problem. Tae is a grown man, not a baby & Tae akgaes/TK shippers wanted & expected Tae to be babied which he wasn't. He was treated the same way as Jimin & JK treat each other. It's not anyone's fault but yours if you see their playfulness & banter as being a victim of some kind of bullying. As for this book you speak of, I have no idea about it. I wasn't very active in 2022 due to personal/professional purposes. As for Hybe distorting content? What do you mean? Do you mean Jimin & JK or Vminkook dynamic? Jimin & JK's friendship has nothing to do with the company, the company if anything did use them for profit but if Jimin & JK were ok with taking a trip & having it filmed then thats their choice. It was made for those that genuinely love them but if you see something you don't want to see, again thats a you problem. They have been exactly how they are through all of their content, close. If you're reading something more than friendship & you don't like it then again thats a you problem. I see nothing but 2 great friends having fun. As for Vminkook, they tease each other all the time, Jimin & JK tease each other, Jimin & Tae tease each other, Tae & JK tease each other but it seems to only be a problem when it's Jimin teasing. Weird.
Not when one of the characters is being portrayed as violent when he is already portrayed as violent in the shipping world. The author based a fiction using traits given to members by shippers, Jimin is a bully, violent is how they view Jimin.
There is wayyyy too much mental health issues in our world and the slightest push can tip a hater over the edge where they act on that hate on their target...this target already receives so much hate already...it's very disgusting and vile to get paid and gain popularity from someones misery! Let's see if Karma will work her magic....🪄💜🇺🇸
I’m rooting for a sequel where Jimin is a Superhero who dominates Billboard, breaks records in music, gets Platinum Player award, breaks Guinness records, has a world wide month long birthday celebration. And maybe gets the girl (or guy). And lives happily ever after.
