Can Colleges Continue To Thrive Without International Students? 

lol so basically Americans want their money but don't want them to stay

Universities had it coming. For their ridiculously high tuition fees

"Insurance that pays out when Chinese students stop coming" This is by far the most American thing that I should have expected but didn't

I was an international student during my undergraduate... about ready to go back home to Korea as I was waitlisted to graduate school... then, last week they got back to me saying they needed my money. I mean, I got accepted

Pay them thrice the tuition fees, basically paying tuition for many native students. Work for them at lower wages than American counterparts. Boost their economy, create jobs directly and indirectly. Then they tell you to pack up and leave.... Edit: A lot of you are saying we do not pay taxes. Actually, we do, the moment we step in the US we start paying taxes but that should not mean that tuition cost need to be high for International students. In fact, out-of-state American Students almost pay the same as International Students regardless of who pays what taxes. Its the education system that needs to change to allow education as a human right, see our EU counterparts

U have to add to this that Canada gives their international students a residence permit after their Opt

Why pay so much money to get treated like trash lol

As a international student I see the US as a terrible option, that is why I chose to study in Germany .

Maybe this will force them to lower the tuition to more realistic cost.

My honest opinion: Who in his/her right mind would go voluntarily to a place which basically despises you but not your money? My son wants to go to the USA to study next year, but since I am the one who pays I have already told him to look anywhere else. The USA used to be a dream for many, now is just a nightmare.

I started two companies here but yet Im treated like an outsider. Current policies have really opened my eyes on my worth here . Feeling not welcomed isn't really a good feeling when all you do is contribute and be the beat part of society. I urge future international students to look into all your options and other places that treat you better!

The united state is slowly losing its position in all areas, man in 10years it will be a whole new world.

Had my US visa rejected 4 times before I decided to just go and study in Canada. Still believe that was the best thing that happened to me honestly.

Colleges can’t work without out of state tuition and international students

If colleges had not become so greedy in the last few decades this would not be an issue. Of course that was fueled by the well-intentioned but not thought through federal student loan program. Fed govt: everyone gets money Collleges: let’s jack up tuition and start spending on the “college experience” instead of education

I could tell u in my school, 70% graduate students (which are the ones doing research) are Asian international students.

At this point I prefer to study in a fellow EU country were at least I can have guaranteed residency after college

I hope we're not supposed to have sympathy for universities after raising our tuition prices 100-200%...

It's almost as if colleges will have to drop tuition rates, how terrible

How about making a video about "will international students survive in the US even though they have paid the tuition ? "

I was an international student in the U.S over a decade ago and i personally know dozens, if not more people who were also international students - we paid 3-4 times the regular tuition fees and our visas kept getting more and more restrictive. I had enough and came back to Canada after just a year down south. This is good, this will make Canada a much more appealing country for international talent. Canada is low key already making immigration easier for talented workers from silicon valley since they're all scared of how their visas are in jeopardy and some have been waiting 10+ years for their green cards. Canada needs to soak up the lost talent and revenue of every bad decision america makes right now.

Someone once told me " Never go to a place where the people don't want and don't respect you and take advantage of you"

As an international student who has just got an OPT. I have been studying in the U.S. for 7 years since high school as an exchange student. The American public and universities are one of the most welcoming people I have ever met. But the administrations and their policies puts tons of red tapes, hoops, and fences that we have to jump through just to be able to study in the U.S. it's almost like they don't want us here.

I was considering masters in the US in fall of 2020 but postponed that due to the pandemic. Now I'm considering Canada as a better option.

Funny seeing how so many students from my country spend YEARS preparing for US applications and spending huge amounts on counselling, giving the SAT for which they need to prepare curriculum outside their high school and after all that effort, they still have an uncertain future in the country. The recent trend nowadays is a sharp shift to countries like Canada, Australia, NZ and now even UK. While the market for international students is rising, other countries are coming up with attractive policies to lure international students as they contribute a lot towards the economy

For any international student thinking about going to the US I have one word of advice: Canada It’s cheaper, easier to get into, most Universities are as good as their American counterparts and you will not be treated as second-class people.

You know some schools even take 50% tuition from international students, the average cost is around 50k$ per year, that's 200k$ for let's say a 4 year program, and I live in Syria, so you know this kind of money is enough here to buy a small village ...

When it comes to MONEY believe me when I say this, NO ONE CARES who you are, as long as you can put YOUR MONEY in their pocket, you’ll be good to go. Sad but that’s just reality.

This issues with school needing funding comes from how the schools are spending money. My sister in law goes to an instate school. Her apartment, a glorified dorm, has a pool. Her public D1 school costs more than my small private engineering school. Dorms were simple, field houses/fitness centers were dual use for sports and students, aggressively sought grants. They locked in tuition your freshman year, built 20 mill in new buildings in 4 years with no debt and had high job placement and well ranked. Schools are being horribly ran, that's the issue. Not the income.

Don’t forget the ridiculous cost of standardized tests (GRE, Tofel, etc..)

No, it cannot. International students contribute a large chunk of universities' earnings; not to mention contribution to the economy in general

When I was doing my bachelors about 10% of my classmates were international students, but when I was doing my masters about 90% of my classmates were international students. Anyone else had the same experience?

The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it.

when education become business things like this happen... the top universities should probably file an IPO 😅

I couldn't even dreamt of studying in America because of their tuition fees, that's why I opted for Europe

You can bring us your money but you can't stay here!

Most universities which are STEM heavy(even the ones which are not stem heavy) has a HIGH international population, and many professors in those universities claim that international students are a charm to teach and are really smart, focused and motivated(this is not true in all cases, but it is most of the time). These people are HUGE ASSETS to the US economy and development, I honestly don't understand why the government doesn't seem to understand that. They are basically taking money from their country and investing in the US, And if they get the green card/citizenship they could create more jobs for the American population. They are basically uplifting the US, not their country.

This is why more people are becoming influencers on social media these days😆😆 Easy money

I see this trend in the U.S getting worse especially with Canada and other nations being more welcoming

I'm sorry but she sounds as if she about to cry.

A positive for student because of lower tuition costs A negative for money hungry schools I love it 😊

Thrive ? They would be lucky if they survived.

Imagine America without other nations talent is like big models having the no make up look forever 😂

so thts why I got in my first choice

As a former US international grad student in tech, I can tell you the US bureaucracy is a NIGHTMARE. What you gotta do if you wanna keep international students is very simple, just simplify stuff like other countries and cut the systemic racism. It's unbelievable how the fed government instead of helping schools makes it actually harder for international students to come. I've met students from the Middle East who had craaaazy limitations on their visas such as not being allowed to ever leave the US among many others.

Landlord has suffered in College Cities like Boston/NYC. There are so many vacant units that landlord had to reduce their rent. Even reducing the rent cannot get their units rented. So they end up not paying the mortgage or trying to sell. The government also helping tenants so that they don't get evicted even if they don't pay rent. Majority of the renters are foreign students. Now they are trying to get rid of H1B and J1 visa tenants on top of F1 people. And even if Americans are the tenants they are getting laid off from work so they too cannot pay rent. So now the rental market is really bad.

It is not 'revert back', but just revert. Eg: Revert to previous work policy.

As a former international student, I have to say: it is a complete sham to study in the US. Not only is super expensive, as you do not have access to any financial support, but it is super difficult to get a job or internships afterwards. How are you supposed to get your return on investment? The OPT is useless, employers do not even consider you with a temporary visa, and you are in constant surveillance from your school and immigration services. Do yourself a favor and look for other options.

1/3 of the US international students are from China. Their grad students are great assets for doing research and scientific papers. Without them, it's a huge loss to the university finances and professors.

International students turned employees at tech firms also earn a hell of a lot of money, and hence pay hell of a lot of money in taxes (CA's state tax is also pretty high) and the US economy. It's sad to see the POTUS pander to non-college educated people in Alabama at the cost of smart STEM grad students paying more in taxes than the average person earns in the deep red states (and those who absolutely aren't cut out to do jobs that international students do). You want their money but can't let them make use of your job opportunities that they unfortunately can't find in their home countries. I don't want to "play the xenophobia card", but it's xenophobia.

When you realize a first world country doesn't have free Education but your own country, a developing nation has free education. 🧐

The craziest thing I see is international students from small countries pay up the ass in tuition + living for 4 years... only to go back to their home countries and never make more than $2K USD monthly. I get that their goal is to springboard their uni degree into a job in the US, but more often than not it doesn't work out, because many employers don't want to go through the hassle of being responsible for, and helping secure their visas. To me it's misguided thinking from the parents who think, "Get my kid a US degree at all costs." The cost ends up being too great for the return.

Those that resent intl. students are just mad they're not smart enough for a scholarship :/

If you are going to study abroad, why would you come to USA? Our schools are way more expensive than most of the world.

The broken system is now also naked. It's time to fix it and not just dress it differently.

International Students be paying tuition for local students (indirectly)

Well it feels so bad, i had so many dreams to achieve there but it's a bummer

I'm an Indian, I came to the US because countries like Canada, Aus, UK judged my abilities on the bases of my high school grades which I had messed up! :( Where as in the US, Universities cared more about my character, my potential, more than the numbers I got. That's why I chose US over other countries.

Thank you for covering this topic..🙏🤞

Higher education is a right and not a luxury...neither is it a business....if you want your population to become better make higher education available to more Americans

From Wikipedia, countries with the most international students in 2019: 1. USA: 1,095,299 2. UK: 496,570 3. China: 492,185 4. Canada: 435,415 5. Australia: 420,501 6. France: 343,400 7. Russia: 334,497 8. Germany: 282,002 9. Japan: 208,901 10. Spain: 120,991 Can international students be yet another metric by which China will overtake the US in the near future?

The funniest part of such restrictions that students follows the Law and they impacted by rules, but illegal immigrants doesn’t need any proclamations they just come. So restrictions is only for law abiding individuals, that’s pure impacting economy, jobs, taxes and students but not illegals. It’s always easy to fight with good people then with bad.

the thing is though, coming from an australian where there are alot of international students come here from Asia in particular, is that universities are run like business, they need international students, because we don't have enough domestic students as we've got a small population period, which means that there's an even smaller amount of kids going onto tertiary education after high school. This means that in regards to the US, they can't not have international students, due to how universities are run, and there are so many more students in the US, due to a much larger population, period

16:23 Wasn't expecting to see my President in this video 🇰🇪

As a former international student I feel its high time that Asian students change the sentiment or culture that education in US will give great future. Invest in Institutions in your country ,that will pay them back with improved economies ,better salaries and of course Innovation.

This is now a worldwide problem. Universities and governments are addicted to international students and the high fees they charge them. They are now nothing but degree factories. Using it as a gateway for immigration to the host country. All the benefits go to the universities. The general population gets saddled with the economic costs of overcrowding and wage competition with foreign students who are vulnerable to exploitation.

Excellent presentation. Thank you. Given the history of well-documented evidence of their real and potential contributions (beyond tuition and expense spending) to the receiving US economy, one is hard pressed to understand why a major host country of international tertiary-level students would push a string of hostile policies and practices towards international students. Five years of declining numbers of international students signal many issues in the US immigration and higher education space. Leaders in the most competitive, complex and technical industries have repeatedly suggested that they need the skills brought in by graduating international students to keep ahead of the curve. And they are NOT talking about hiring cheap laborers for farms or domestic work in their case. Such competitive, complex and technical industries seek and hire the 'brightest and best' of eager beavers at competitive rates. The yearly fresh supply of international student graduates is a big part of what keeps many companies in competitive, complex and technical industries thriving and leading, especially in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM). Advocates of myopic populism of the type that dominates some immigration policies only shoot themselves and their supporters in the foot.

I grew up next to a state university. And I feel shameful that I was not admitted even though my family paid taxes. But they admitted 14 students that got the education to take back to their countries. We need to realize universities are more focused on money that how to educate the citizens around their institute.

Not if they have to pay the price of their parents' house

Can young people in general succeed without attending college and going heavily into debt? MOOCs is the future.

2:50 Ming Hsu Chen, it is so enjoyable to listen this lady’s speech👍👍

Great, regardless of the song or landscape is perfec

I'm an international student myself and I gotta say the U.S. treats us poorly compared to other countries before and during the pandemic (and maybe after) No hate If I could choose other country to study, definitely not the US ._.

1:38 she stuttered and almost said "what the f***.. future will hold"

let's be honest the attitude towards international students have changed drastically too. Today, companies say they need software engineers, they complain about the labour shortages but still refuse to let international students work. before it was all about the economy but now it's just money grab and politics.

...it’s the same with Australia, NZ, Canada & the UK

"We estimate that enrollment for the next academic year will drop by 15 percent resulting in a revenue loss of $23 billion." If we run the numbers, if a 15 percent loss is 23 billion dollars, then the 85 percent left would be $130 billion. Can universities thrive with a revenue of $130 billion? I believe they can, if you want to convince me that they can't, show me the numbers for their expenses.

International students are an asset to the country’s economy and should be treated well but I do see many internationals are heavily assisted with graduate assistantships and fellowships and coming directly from countries like China and India they are not paying any tuition,so basically getting a free ride for higher education. US born students of ALL ethnicities should have a fair chance on graduate assistantships.

I am American and I was an international student in Australia. I paid three times the tuition an Australian citizen did. It was hard to find work during my two year study because nobody wanted to hire someone on a student visa. This practice of overcharging international students is common throughout the Commonwealth countries and not only the USA.

I graduated a few months ago but from the time I started and finished college. They raised tuition by an additional $1, 300 a semester.

Canada: its free real est--- US: *prepare to launch protests againsts Trudeau* Canada: We're deeply sorry and we will close schools for them asap

Domestic students can pay double or triple fees, it will keep university going

I'm an international student in the US and now I'm regretting goint to the US to study in the first place.

Let the colleges suffer. They’re too expensive and charging international students triple the regular cost is insane.

Closing yourself to other countries and their workforce just makes you less competitive in the long term

I want my friend to come back. I didn't get to give her a proper good bye

We are at a crossroads with a lot of tradition. When students consider digital college training, vs. the expensive residence, giant buildings, etc., you will see (finally) a huge drop in costs and student debts (thank heavens) but a concomitant deficit to the bloated collegiate accounting ledgers. With endowments, some schools will do fine, but others will not...

I am an educational consultant in India and this is absolutely true. So many students who deferred their admit to Fall 21 due to the pandemic are already considering other countries like Canada, Australia and even the UK. The scale of the pandemic in the US has scared off more than half of them. Most are already applying to other countries and have decided they won't accept the admit!

Not at all surprised to see University of Illinois get name-checked. There's a popular saying here. It is absurdly difficult for an in-state resident to get into the engineering program because they have such a strong preference for International and out-of-state students. So most people say that the best way to get into the engineering program is to lie about wanting to be in the engineering program and then transferring Majors after being accepted

A lot of people from the united states would go to great lengts to make sure people from other countries don't enter theirs, and then will go mad when other countries don't let them in.

I'm an international student. Think about this: Universities in the US were fine when they didn't have so many internationals. Now, they will have financial problems?? Universities and the system behind are just so greedy and corrupted ...

10:27 That shot is very much familiar.

i could never trust a video that doesn’t show adverse data...

I just love how this video paints universities as poor angels, while ignoring that university spends more money on paying bureaucrats than researchers and teachers. The total US Student Loan is $1.4 trillion, and tuition has vastly outpaced inflation over the years. why? because universities realized they could just keep raising tuition and people will continue to show up, no matter the cost.

Answer is : NO Everyone should delay enrollment until in-person classes start up once again. It's not worth the tuition. International students pay top dollars and are then insulted by the US government for being foreign. What would you do? Would you send your kids somewhere else more welcoming, a country where you don't worry as much for their safety?

The cost aspect is just pure facts and I've heard about the visa process being tricky. Canada is similar for cost though but I don't know about getting a visa. I considered studying in the states after I graduated from high school in 2017 and my parents were okay with the idea, it was only when I started looking at tuition that things started to get a bit dicey. Even though I also just doubted myself with regards to the SAT (that's another issue) the tuition is quite high and I usually apply to schools with the expectation that I'll go on self sponsorship rather than getting a scholarship which is often always a competition since loads of people are in similar situations as myself; want to go to America but probably can't totally afford a good number of schools. As soon as tuition starts reaching tens of thousands of dollars it begins to get discouraging when it comes to going on self sponsorship because that translates to hundreds of thousands in local currency and that's minus accommodation and upkeep costs, not to mention the air ticket (s). Speaking as a citizen of an African country I think I can safely say this has lead people ( in Africa in particular) to opt for countries in the east like China and probably Malaysia etc because lower - Middle income families with bright kids would struggle to fulfil tuition for the States. Loads of Africans are flocking to China because, from what I've heard and experienced, it's relatively easier and more affordable to get there. China is more technologically advanced than Africa and their schools more often than not have better facilities than a lot of African schools. In Africa the best of the best are in South Africa and probably Botswana and Namibia from what I've seen, but places get filled up and you want to do an engineering course that requires hands on work and your local schools are mostly found wanting, not to mention the lack of industry in many countries on the continent. However it's not all perfect. American schools tend to be more organised and I feel would handle their international students better than what I've experienced so far at my school (maybe it's just I got the bad end of the deal and there are better schools here 🤷🏽‍♂️) but the fact that you don't necessarily need an agency to apply to a number of North American schools as compared to Chinese ones says something to me about how serious the former is than the latter. Some people go on self sponsorship and others get government scholarships organised by either their local govts or the Chinese govt or probably both and that usually requires you to study your course in Chinese 😓 also, China largely doesn't speak English much so this may affect your learning experience, but to varying degrees, it's like a lottery, some schools are good with qualified and conversant lecturers and teachers, while others..... Ha 😅 yeah. But it's quite easy to get accepted, not to mention the visa process and tickets to China can be paid for given the low tuition (usually under $10000). The experience doesn't match that of the states but there are a lot of things a student will like in China that aren't common in Africa, wechat and alipay payment for example, we'll organised transport system, taobao and online shopping for almost ANYTHING 😀 it's not all a gloomy experience, but it's not perfect and if I'd have to choose I'd probably go to the states or somewhere in Europe but from what I know you'd have to be the child of a lawyer of govt official to be able to afford to go to those places...

The G Wagons will be missed 😢

This reporting is not up to the CNBC standard I expect.

The conclusion was known by Australian govt when they gave scholarships to ASEAN students back then in 70s and I was the recipient of such scholarship. Even after 50 years and I retire now, I still hold favourable impression of Australia and its people.

I studied in Boston in the nineties, and came back to Brazil (never intended to stay forever in the US). It was a wonderful experience. But when it was my turn to send my daughters abroad, I chose Canada. These days, unfortunately, I think the US is not a friendly country for foreigners.