Can Digitech TRIO teach SDRUM?

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This is not really a review, more of an experiment.
I bought the Digitech TRIO Band Creator when it came out. It is amazing technology and a whole lotta fun. Last year they followed up the TRIO and TRIO+(w/looping) with the SDRUM, which focuses on drums & percussion and gives even more user control. I had to grab one, and this video is why. Here I try to answer the question: "Can one smart pedal teach another smart pedal?" Enjoy 😁
Here's more product info:
digitech.com/products/en/trio
digitech.com/products/en/sdrum
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Комментарии : 38

@johncaccioppo1142 4 года назад

Who's watching this in 2020? ... thinking why did it take this long for me to find this?

@Shoggy56 2 года назад

I stumbled on the Trio+ a couple of months ago and bought one immediately. This is a fantastic piece of kit and I wish I'd discovered it sooner. It seems to be the only looper of it's kind on the market. Thought other companies would have jumped on the idea and even made improvements? Shocking that no one has

@jdiesel9048 3 года назад

Very cool! I just got the Trio and I can't stop playing with it. It is so fun! I have played for several hours a day every day on that Trio! I can totally see how I could add a while be dimension of drums with the SDrum and a little CREATIVITY. I'm going to add a SDrum now! Thank you for the idea!

@scrutatorofperfidy6048 5 лет назад

At 3:37, that’s a serious jazz groove when the bass comes in. It sounds so good, I think it would be cool to see real people play that live in a club as part of a completed composition. I also like the guitar rhythm you worked out in the beginning.

@MaTTheWish 2 года назад

It sounded so sloppy when you first introduced the sdrum, I thought to myself this is a bad demo, then 2 minutes go by and you dialed in a beautiful track. Great job! Thanks

@d_walsh Год назад

Crud. Now I want both pedals.

@roaddog7542 5 лет назад

Have a SDRUM and Trio+. Both great pedals. Digitech's parent company Harman was sold to Samsung and much of the staff laid off. We'll see if any creative thinking remains or if the Digitech name will be a past glory.

@mikesharpsongs 5 лет назад

WOW, I had no idea that happened; huge corporate behavior sucks! Although, I generally appreciate Samsung products. Let's hope they steer it all postively and treat their current people better.

@dozerblade 4 года назад

Ah that's not the best news, I have been hoping for an updated trio plus, with maybe separate outputs for bass and drums, being able to copy one rythym pattern you have created to the next light for embellishments, being able to midi it to my multitrack, yeah I still record to my korg 16 track. Ect.

@Sacilo 5 лет назад

Great work friend! ;-) I have one SDrum and two jamman solo xt... Digitech pedals are amazing!!! Thank you for this video. Have fun, good music! (From southern Italy) ;-)

@mikesharpsongs 5 лет назад

Hello Italy! Thanks for your kindness, and yes Digitech is AWESOME 😁

@barbarella7028 4 года назад

Also just discovered this. Digitech certainly have some odd but very inventive ideas, don't they? Half of my pedals are Digitech too.

@theJBGary 2 года назад

Really cool beat there…

@JonStratford1234 4 года назад

Cool experiment. It sounds like a couple seconds of "swing" (2:58) got the two pedals out of sync.

@jamesdeininger3759 3 месяца назад

Are you trying to just use the Trio for bass lines, and the SDRUM for the drum patterns? I’d find that pretty useful (or if they could make an upgraded SDRUM with the Bass line feature.) I really like the SDRUM to make custom patterns and for its drum fills when playing live.

@mikesharpsongs 3 месяца назад

Honestly, I was just horsing around to see what their software would do based on what their software had already done. It's very cool tech, and yes I think using TRIO/+ for basslines and SDRUM for drums, or TRIO/+ for foundational kit parts and basslines with SDRUM for percussion parts could totally work; particularly if you made that part of an experimental solo live set

@jamesdeininger3759 3 месяца назад

@@mikesharpsongs - How do you get them to sync together? SDRUM has a JamSync input, but I don’t think either the Trio/Trio+ do. I’d like to keep the SDRUM song patterns that I already have made. Thanks.

@jackfisher9833 4 года назад

Pretty cool to have both playing.. Thats untill they start to go out of beat. I have Trio+ and Im thinking about getting beat buddy, but maybe Sdrum as well.. it is always great to have more options. Trio sometimes do unexpected shit with the bass. Well its a bass and just like a real bass player its dumb as fk.

@stinky_nut_blast Год назад

The only thing they can think of is counting to 4.

@anthiathanasiou9858 4 года назад

Hi! cool video! I just have a question. I see that you have two cables coming into your sdrum pedal. Why is that? Do you split the signal to two separate channels? Also What kind of cable do you use to sync the two pedals?

@mikesharpsongs 4 года назад

The cable between the two is just a 1/4" TS jumper. The two 1/4" TS cables coming out of the SDRUM are to allow the guitar (and TRIO drums/bass) to pass through on it's own channel and the SDRUM drum/perc sounds come out the other channel. I plugged the other end of both outputs in to two channels of a powered speaker (JBL Eon G2 15)

@anthonyglaser929 6 месяцев назад

so in your example here did the Sdrum mimic the Trio parts or just play the aux percussion parts. What I mean is if you start a drum part on the Trio will the Sdrum actually learn the Trio's drum part? Oh and thanks for posting this video.

@mikesharpsongs 6 месяцев назад

The Sdrum was ONLY getting audio from the Trio, so it was coming up with percussion parts based on derived percussion and/or bass parts that the Trio created based on my original guitar part. Not sure if that answers your question, but essentially know that the Sdrum is not connected in any way but from the output created by the Trio. I don't believe they "speak to each other" in any other way, so as to compliment or augment performance.

@jliveris711 4 года назад

This is the coolest thing ever man; those grooves and polyrhythms were excellent. I am ready to by these two pedals, my only concern is I don't play guitar, I'm going to use a mic and trigger the Trio with other instruments. Is this even possible? Will the trio+ recognize it, for example a harp or flute.

@mikesharpsongs 4 года назад

Awesomeness! I believe the Trio will, as it "reads" both tone (for the bass line) and attack (for rhythm); but make sure your attack is pronounced. Perhaps a compressor pedal ahead of the Trio would help. Best of luck!

@jliveris711 4 года назад

@@mikesharpsongs any trick on matching tempos? I feel like when it first started it needed to catch it and then seemed to sync nicely.... didn't see you touch the tempo knob.

@jackfisher9833 4 года назад

AAAAHHHHHHH!!! I seen a supermario.. I did I did!! It worked out great.

@mikesharpsongs 4 года назад

😃😂🤣❤

@wlfdog55 5 лет назад

I have SDRUM and will be receiving a TRIO tomorrow. I'm very interested in how you worked this out. Did you "Guitar Audition" the Trio drum track or did it just start learning automatically? Is this a "Easter Egg" feature of the SDRUM? I was able to acquire both pedals for just over $100, (as I understand: The SDRUM has the enhanced drums and the Trio has the enhanced musical input for bass and drums). Are syncing both in this way practical? I can't say yet. But I think it will be great fun and your music sounds good to me. I wish I had a natural since of rhythm and I have to work very hard to develop one. The SDRUM really helps out and I'm looking forward to adding the bass.

@mikesharpsongs 5 лет назад

Howdy Ray! You will love these pedals, great for working up musical ideas as well as developing rhythmic chops; both are like super-interactive metronomes. The Trio groove I started with was indeed initiated via guitar audition(ie. me hitting the "learn" switch and playing a rhythm and then stopping the loop). Then, as I described, I wanted to let the SDRUM learn the same way; but this time using the newly created Trio drum/bass loop as the source. I would definitely recommend using the bass over the drums in this step, as the drum loop created by the Trio has a tendency of being too busy. The SDRUM is clearly searching your input signal for tone(high and low), rather than merely your rhythm pattern. In this way it is assigning kick and snare patterns based on whether you play the lower or higher notes. Enjoy! You have made a great choice 😁

@wlfdog55 5 лет назад

@@mikesharpsongs I appreciate the response. I will be trying out my Trio today. Thanks for the addition instructions.

@EricKlein 4 года назад

you made a gloria estefan track

@mikesharpsongs 4 года назад

I cracked the code!

@davidhdolan Год назад

The SDRUM is useless in a live situation. You can't set the external pedal to scroll up and down through the memories. Also can't set up for just a bass beat to a tap tempo. If they had these 2 features it would be a great tool. But without them it's just a toy.

@jamesdeininger3759 3 месяца назад

I completely disagree. I use the SDRUM for live performances. When you say “scroll through the memories”, do you mean the individual song’s different patterns? Or different songs entirely? If it’s the former, then all you need is the FS3X external pedal.

@willgo7898 5 лет назад

Is this of any real value (better drum sounds, better rhythms, other ??). What I'm hearing here is a total mess

@mikesharpsongs 5 лет назад

Each pedal covers a sizeable range of rhythms, drum sounds, groove, etc. But this video was expressly an attempt to demonstrate a first run at feeding the algorithm output of one into the other, mostly for fun. There are plenty of demonstrations of each of these pedals as they were originally intended to be used; they are each fantastic and very useable/musical devices. This was merely an experiment-as stated in the description and in the video itself. Good luck!