Me: "Man this 48" LG OLED is great, I wish they or someone would make something smaller and slightly cheaper. I would buy it immediately." Gigabyte: "You said you wanted the exact same thing the competition is offering but higher priced?"
To be fair, that's all gigabyte does, just takes what the market has, cut all available cost and increase the price. In this case, they just bought their own C1 stock and still made it worse.
I think it was more like this. Gigabyte: People want an OLED monitor for their computers and not connect a TV. Just copy the C1 and slap a monitor sticker on the box. They will pay even more for it, since they are used to pay thousands of dollars for inferior monitors anyway.
@@WCIIIReiniger which some people might, if they truly removed all of the TV functionality from that monitor but they didn't - an OLED monitor that don't have any form of ABL at all could be a compelling offer to some but they just have to remove everything but that one thing people wanted gone
The problem isn't really Gigabytes. There *aren't* any smaller OLED panels suitable for PC use on the market, so they worked with what they have. They don't make the panels.
I bought this based on review and IMO the capped peak full screen brightness under 150nits is in fact excellent. When using a display this large, the overall screen brightness is eye searing on 43" VA and IPS screens at even 300nits due to the sheer size, I have used several and no matter what you will get eye strain after a few hours. Its a literal wall of light. On the OLED however, black background generates zero passive screen emission with small pockets of light and full white is not eye searing, rather caps at 150nis which looks grey and is kind of busted, but I assure you, a 600+ nit 48" HDR flash-bang will send you blind at 1am in a dark room. If you use monitors a lot (ie for work), the OLED is much easier on the eyes and you can bring it down extremely, extremely dim and still be usable. Kind of random but thought I would mention in case someone reads.
did you run into any issues with the switch of messages? I ordered one, it worked out to be 1/2 the price for the C1 and figured to try it for that price point.
150 nits is nothing, a lot of displays even in the monitor space and OLED space are already surpassing 1000+ nits. 150 nits just looks eye searing because most IPS monitors aren’t even 100 nits.
@@CrazyAboutVinylRecords Sony A95K, Samsung S95B, LG G2 are some of the ones that already surpass 1000 nits (S95B used to get to 1500 nits before it was patched). Albeit these are small window sizes such as 5-10% windows, but even TV’s like the S95B can hit 500 nits full field. My Panasonic Plasma from 2008 could reach over 200 nits full field, 150 nits full field is absurdly bad by todays standards
Yeah at 48" its just way too big for most people. I'd love to see one at about 35" or so. Maybe the panels are still too expensive to produce at these sizes.
yeah i really feel like even a 32 inch monitor is huge from a desk viewing distance. My ideal monitor would be an 27inch 1440p 240hz oled(never gonna happen but a man can dream :/ )
@@TheCreator919 What is the point of ultrawide? Its like buying a car but its sliced in two so you just get the middle part LOL. Thats essentially what ultrawides are, you buy half a monitor.
@@Takashita_Sukakoki 32" is the biggest for normal viewing distances. Any bigger and it's too big. 32 seems to be the sweet spot at around 60cm distance.
I have owned the LG CX 48" for over a year and use it as my only PC monitor. It is hands-down the best monitor I have ever owned. The small annoyances such as auto brightness dimming is quickly overlooked when you see the panel in person. I even bought the five year coverage that included image retention, but there is absolutely no image retention to speak of. If you have been on the fence with the LG CX or C1, just do it. I'm not sure why anyone would pay more for the Gigabyte model when they are most likely just getting their panels from LG.
No it's been confirmed. it's literally the same panel from LG, it's the evo one to be specific. Well it definitely feels like they screwed it up a bit.
@@drunkhusband6257 Thanks for your concern, Drunk Husband. You are obviously too inebriated to understand what I wrote. I will certainly enjoy returning it for a newer model should I happen to get burn in.
I was thinking of using it as a monitor with my pc. I have the C1 but pretty much same thing. You got certain settings you need to apply first to prevent burn it?
Happy to see another large screen review, my living room PC thanks you for growing into this area. Console gamers 'own' the living room but not all PC's are desktops, thrilled to see Hardware on Box is coming around to large screens for other PC uses.
I am not even looking for a monitor but these reviews are still fun and informative to watch. very in depth about their performance. Nice work my australian MATES!!!!!!!!
I rock a c1 oled. Love it. Highly recommend others look into oled too. it does require some babying with regard to the burn-in. Not much. Just vary window sizes and positions. But the size should be noted. The deep desk requirement is overblown. You can use a regular desk and just treat the display as if it were a multi-monitor setup. If you must have your windows maximized all the time, a 48-in is probably not for you. For movies, it's great to sit back and watch. I haven't done too much full-screen gaming that requires mouse and keyboard, but it is easy enough to resize your desktop so it only uses part of the screen (not recommend for regular use as it will cause uneven wear across the screen). LG's 48in C1 oled is the best monitor i have ever owned by a lot. And if you can handle the few (but significant) downsides, oled is the way to go.
I use a LG OLED C1 65 inches with my 5800X3D & 4090 PC and still I'm so unbelievably happy with it! I set screensaver to one minute and there's absolutely no risk for any burn-in!
This review has started to make more sense now that the FO48U is on sale here in Australia. I was looking to pick up an LG C1 48" but they were never below $2000aud. I just picked up my FO48U on sale at $1099aud which makes it almost half the price of the C1. Even when not on sale these monitors are still selling significantly cheaper than the LG tv's. Its hard to pass up an excellent OLED panel for so cheap. ABL hasn't annoyed me as much as I initially though it would and overall Im loving it. I compare it to my CX 55" and it holds up very well. Will have to report back in a couple months to see if Ihave accumulated any burn in. Thanks for the review.
@@alejandroromito Hey mate, yea I've had zero issues with the panel and really love it. The only little annoying things is the ABL can be a little aggressive when you have a full screen white, like a web page for example. Otherwise, I've had zero burn in and I've already clocked up a couple hundred hours. Great purchase IMO.
@@TheMaca1991 thanks so much! Did you have that problem that many users talk about, continuous use for more than 4 hours, and the monitor turns off by itself to do maintenance?
@@alejandroromito Nah, so I think mine takes quite a bit of hours before it pops up with that notification. And even if it does, a quick press on the monitors toggle switch removes it, and the process won't start until you power down the monitor, and the process takes about 5 minutes max. It has never just turnt itself off whilst in use.
I have been rocking the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U for a few months and have been very happy with it. It's not a perfect display, but it hits so many marks and I was able to snag it on sale at Newegg for $900 USD. It works great as a combo productivity/gaming display. I do web development and digital marketing on a MacBook Pro where it is an external display and have a gaming PC and Xbox Series X hooked up to it for gaming. The 43" size is the max I think is practical... I considered a LG C1, but felt the size cost and burn in risk for my use case was too high. Again I recommend to take a look at the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U as a large format monitor as I think it is the best value for money in that space!
I'm going to ask the important question here - does it blow up? That seems to be the ongoing theme for Gigabyte's products of recent going from power supplies through to graphics cards and more recently tweated 'gaming chairs'.
@@benjy117 You... should probably check every manufacturer of every computer component you own. Short of Intel, who has their own fab, everything in your computer is from Taiwan unless you have some ungodly low quality shit like Biostar or Gainward from China. ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock, EVGA, XFX, Sapphire and PowerColor are all Taiwan-producing companies. AMD produces all their chips in Taiwan. Nvidia produces all their data center chips in Taiwan, but produces their consumer chips in Korea. And the list goes on with sub-component manufactures like Realtek, Broadcom, Ralink, ASMedia, Ricoh, etc.
I have the c1, yes 48" is to big for most desks. Mine is on a floor stand, would have mounted it to a wall if I wasn't renting. Best tv/monitor I've owned
a tip for anyone concerned about using such a large monitor on your desk, personally I would just opt for a vesa floor stand and move the monitor further away and you end up with even more desk real-estate when compared to a traditional setup
I have C7 and B9 Oleds. So they are now 2 and 4 years old. The B9 is used mainly for gaming, sports and youtube and shows zero signs of burn in. The C7 is in the living room and is used mostly to watch tv series and movies and as finns most of our content comes with subtitles. The C7 has started to show signs of diminished ability to reach bright scenes with the pixels around the area where subtitles usually are so for example if there is a red scene you can clearly see that all the pixels in the bottom part of the screen can't keep up. It's a abit annoying to me, but my wife didn't even notice before I told her.
@@drunkhusband6257 that’s on you I have had doles over the past few years and neevr got burn in even with gaming tried the whole mini led tech this year and went back to getting a c1 oled that tech still doesn’t touch oled episcally looking at them side by side
@@stevekjr9563 I know about the technicalities like that, but what i want to know is whether HDMI 2.1 features (namely, variable refresh rate) can be used on older graphics cards with DP 1.4 using an adapter. Of course, if you have an RTX 3000 or an RX 6000 card then you can just use an HDMI 2.1 cable, but a lot of older cards have DP 1.4 outputs, which have more or less the same specs, so it would be nice to be able to use VRR on an HDMI 2.1 TV with something like an RTX 2080 for example.
@@oleg_aka_djmeg I understand what you're getting at. I think that usage case is really gonna be case-by-case because it depends what you're connecting to on both sides.
currently the gigabyte is about 700 dollars cheaper and a great buy. In Australia costing about 1099 and lg c1 costing close to 2000. Wish it was the opposite but at the moment gigabyte is the way to go. Update: So i've bought two, one for series x and one for the computer. bought both close to 1100 AUD . Awesome buy.
Couple of things ; HDMI 2.1 is pretty much unsupported in anything other than Windows and will likely continue to be the case due the HDMI consortia basically saying DSC can't be implemented in the open. This makes anything that needs to be fed by HDMI2.1 to achieve i.e 8k@60 or above or VRR impossible on an Operating system using Open Standards drivers i.e Linux/FreeBSD. Especially concerning given SteamDeck and other platforms. In summary the inclusion of Display Port is the real feature here - and I was uncertain how you were driving the panel from the review. I strongly recommend you do testing on a modern Linux Distro (i.e Fedora etc) so compare what is broken in the various vendor implementations as part of your reviews. VRR can be implemented over HDMI2.0 but is not standard so it would be interesting to know which panels the vendors have taken time to make sure Open compatibility is implemented. There is a potential work around by using DP1.4->HDMI2.1 active adaptors for at least High refresh rate support, however VRR won't be negotiated through these adaptors.
Good points but I think covering more niche topics would be best handled by a channel that specializes in niche topics. Then again not very many channels I have come across go into the depth that Hardware Unboxed does. I would love it if they included some kind of measurement on ecosystem interoperability.
I picked up the Aorus FV43U because 48” just seemed too big and I was nervous about running an OLED as a desktop for 10 hours per day. I have to say the 43U has been amazing!
EIZO says: in an office with normal brightness of 300-500 lux, the display brightness should be adjusted to around 100-150 cd / m2. Usually a gamer or a person watching a movie does it in even less lighted environments. So, set the brightness of your OLED to level 38 and forget about the burn in, otherwise buy an LCD.
26 brightness is 100cd/m2. I calibrated mine to 27 and bump it up to 32 if it's midday and I don't care about accuracy. You shouldn't be using it with anything higher unless you need max brightness for HDR content where you'll mostly benefit from the nits in the peaks.
It's unfathomable how Sony and Gigabyte buy LG panels, make a worse software and hardware offering (no VRR/smart TV/upscaling/few HDMI 2.1 ports), and charge a higher price. I do like the stand on Gigabyte though: my LG48's stand eats up like 20 or 30cm in depth
Its basic economics, actually. This is not a TV, but a gaming monitor. Therefore, its market is much smaller (intensified by its high price, but even at 500 dollars less only few people would buy it, since its practical use case is so limited) and its price will be higher, since a smaller range of units sold will have to cover costs for R&D, marketing, production and so on. People keep complaining about how (gaming) monitors are so much more expensive relative to the features offered when compared to TVs - this is the reason right here. For the FO48U specifically, you'll also have to add the factor of street pricing to having been able to drop yet, since the model reached the market only recently.
i recently replaced an alienware aw3821dw with an LG C1 and its been amazing, most retailers offer some kind of extra warranty or protection that covers the dreaded fear of burn in aswell so its always the smart option to take that out, if it burns in at 12 months replace it, if you manage to get it to the 4 year mark before panel issues start showing then get it replaced...likely with a newer model too, its a no lose situation but only if you take out the extra warranty. cant speak highly enough of the C1, the ps5 just works, my 3080 pc just works, movies... just sublime, HDR awesome... the ultrawide i had was great but image quality isnt really that close at all, OLED is amazing.
I really wish the prices came down a great deal with a 32' option was out there, somehow the few 32' models are way way way over priced. but its good information on how the segment is progressing. thank you for that.
Thank you for including input lag comparisons in your reviews, it’s why i watch your videos. I hope you guys continue to do so in the future (i noticed a recent upload didn’t have an imput lag comparison)
Also in can run 120hz on oled and you wint have issues with tearing as the pixels react instantaneously its already given you get a non tearing and picture quality at the same time. Its just not for productivity usage and will surely geta a burn in.
Do you mean to imply that the Gigabyte monitor uses the newer EVO panel? the later model C1's use EVO panel with the brightness limited in software. You can go into the service menu and change the product number to G1 to unlock the higher brightness (though LG may have already addressed this with a firmware update). I have the service remote for mine and verified that mine has the EVO panel but have not bothered to modify anything in there. I might disable the automatic brightness limiter, though. I don't care about power usage, I don't see how that would impact burn in (as burn in is most noticeable with differences in emissivity of adjacent pixels caused my unequal wear). Only thing I can imagine it causing problems with is an undersized and overloaded power supply.
14:34 I have seen on reddit that most daily desktop users of the (CX/C1) have their OLED light brightness set to 25~35 for a range that is just above or under 100nits. This is the very key setting to use 48" OLEDs as a daily desktop monitor, Linus set his brightness to 80 as he said in his Burn-in video. (youtube hWrFEU_605g?t=373). And some Techtubers have their 6 months after review as desktop use, it is very much possible to use this as a daily desktop monitor; but you need to have the settings right on the TV and Windows 10.
The idea to lit up your room so much its like sitting on a sunny beach in Havana, is stupid you do not need a bright room, the idea that we damage our eyes if our room is too dark and the display is too bright, it does in fact have nothing to do with that but the blue light emitted from the display thats actually the danger, and OLED's these days barely has any blue light emission thats dangerous. So its a moot point, I dunno whats more logical, buy 2000 euro display just to get it bright enough, or buy 10 euro blinds for your fucking windows.
@@mrfujisawa I hope it is clear at LG Electronics that they need a desktop mode with like +100nits, it solves so much annoying issues with the picture quality. 10:38 The power consumption will also be a lot lower, my guess would be like 60-70Watts when set at 100nits settings. @Mr Fujisawa - You have any clue how many Watts the TV is using at 38 brightness at 120nits?
@@SMGJohn by Andy Bassett Feb 5, 2020 LG Display has received official verification of the low blue light emissions of its OLED TV displays from leading global safety certification company, UL. The ‘Low Blue Light Display’ Verified Mark from UL (originally Underwriters Laboratories Inc) is granted to display products when their blue light emission meets the “risk exempt” standard (100W/sr/m2) set by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). During testing, LG Display’s OLED TV panels were found to emit 50 percent lower blue light than the standard, or about 60 percent of blue light that the same-size premium LCD TV displays on the market are reported to emit. However, the verification raises a few questions. Last year LG Display were awarded ‘Eye Comfort’ certification for low blue light parameters in its OLED TV displays by TUV Rheinland, a similar inspection and certification outfit and it's not clear why LG Display has moved from TUV to UL in just 12 months. Dr. Chang-Ho Oh, Executive Vice President & Head of the TV Business Unit at LG Display was in charge of putting the company’s OLED panels though both certification programmes. It’s also not clear whether the UL validation is only relevant to the latest 2020 range of OLED panels or if it supersedes the TUV certification across all recent OLED ranges. It’s possible the UL badge is more well known as a mark of safety than TUV in the US market where several TV manufacturers plan to release OLED models for the first time. While the details of the testing and the rationale for the change in the testing partner remain unknown, the bottom line is that LG Display’s OLED panels have certifiably lower blue light emissions which will result in reduced eye fatigue and sleep disturbance for viewers. Given increasing awareness among consumers about the effects of overexposure to screens that emit too much blue light and the rise in ‘Dark Modes’ on devices such as mobile phones to help ease strain on the eyes, LG Display expects that the UL Verified Mark will further underscore the value of OLED TVs to consumers. Since 2020 will be a year that sees new LG Display clients such as Sharp, Vizio and Skyworth all releasing OLED TVs, the company will encourage its global OLED TV brands and distributors to use the Mark. Dr. Chang-Ho Oh said, “This UL Verified Mark makes it clear that LG Display’s OLED TV displays exceed the highest international standards with regard to eye safety. These OLED displays are already touted for their unmatched picture quality and design flexibility in the market, and now we expect that OLED’s recognized value in terms of eye health will further convince consumers to opt for OLED TVs down the road.” Mirko Bautz, Vice President of Global Accounts at UL, added, “UL empowers trust by helping demonstrate how a brand and its products are responsible and worthy of consumer confidence.” He went on, "As a globally recognized company with deep experience and expertise in the field of test evaluation, we are excited that our methods confirmed that LG Display is delivering on their claims.” With increasing numbers of OLED TVs predicted to be sold over the next three years (shipments are forecast to grow to 5.4 million units in 2020, increasing to 7.3 million units in 2021 and over 12 million units in 2023), what do AVForums readers think of having the ‘Low Blue Light Display’ badge for TVs?
The funny thing is, my last 2 monitors I have used have been VA panels and they have both suffered from burn in after 1.5yrs. I recently purchased an LG C2 48” as the replacement of my 49” ultra-wide monitor that failed. I use my monitor for both work and home use. Work/productivity for 8-10hrs a day M-F and then I might PC game later that evening for 2-4hrs. We will see how long this TV lasts as a monitor. I have a 5yr protection plan that covers burn in and there is nowhere in the terms and conditions that states I can’t use the TV as a monitor or uses the caveat outside of normal use in their verbiage. The only stipulation they specifically place is an indoor TV that is used outdoors is not covered. I called the support line twice and verified with two reps and a supervisor that an OLED TV can be used as a monitor and would be covered under their plan. Time will tell
While I'd tend to agree (it shouldn't be called full bandwidth), in practice the only effect will be to reduce the maximum colour depth from 12-bit to 10-bit, which users shouldn't be able to notice in practice. So, don't call it full bandwidth because it isn't, but it's not nearly as big of a problem as a 24 Gbps max.
Quick update as someone owns this, the display has a very tedious panel protection feature that anyone using/owning this will know and hate. This is basically where reviews still fall short and "old skool" owners forums are way better resources of information. After about 4 hours of use or so, it will force off the display and the LED will flash for 5 minutes exactly, this "panel protection" feature is not particularly welcome at the end of a PUBG round, or a CSGO match, almost makes this monitor unusable for any competitive gaming. Even work, as I had this monitor go into panel protection when I was on a Zoom call. Busted boys, straight busted. Hence the discounts as I think this is probably going to be one of the most returned products ever. It looks amazing, but using it is really annoying.
I'm used to my c1 48" now after using it for a month. Wish the stand was a bit smaller though. OLED pixel brightness at 100 and brightness at 50. Logo dimming at high with a black screen saver. So far so good. Got a 4 year warranty that covers burn in too.
There's the LG 32EP950 and ASUS PA32DC (both using a JOLED 32" 4K 60Hz panel) but they're not really gaming monitors. According to DisplayNinja, AUO has a prototype 32" 4K 144Hz OLED panel but there's nothing available to consumers yet. Hopefully next year we'll start seeing these, but expect costs to be high!
By the time OLED monitors hit the mainstream, graphics cards should be powerful enough to render native 4K without a sweat. A 1440p OLED monitor would be real nice to have right now though, for sure.
@@konga382 TBH, my 6800 XT already handles most of what I play at 4K at potentially much higher than 60 FPS, thus I'd be quite happy to have a 4K 144Hz OLED right now. The main problem with that is lack of DP 2.0, which will necessitate a GPU upgrade (or sidegrade) to take full advantage.
This model is on sale right now (April 4th) at MWave for only $1099. I wish I had the money to buy it right now! It was 1899 at release. EDIT! I’m picking one up at this price!!
The display port lets you get 4k 120hz on the M1 series of apple products, which don't support 4k 120 over HDMI 2.1, even with display port to HDMI adapters.
One other benefit for the Gigabyte that wasn't mentioned here is that (at least in the Australian market) the Gigabyte comes with a 3 year warranty, while the LG base warranty is only 1 year. I think that could be a pretty major factor for a lot of potential buyers who are considering that two products, especially considering that these days the Gigabyte is also a good $500 or so cheaper at advertised prices.
Great review as always. Would like to ask, if you have any plans to review the AOC AG274QXM. It's DisplayHDR 1000 Certified at a price point of around 1100 Euros, which does make it very appealing in my opinion. I don't know how availability is in Australia, but I believe it should start appearing in Germany at the start of November. Thank you and have a great day!
Same here, can't decide between LG 34GN850 and 34GP950, main difference is that the GP950 has better brightness and color accuracy, not to mention that the price difference is $500+ between them, and the other thing is that the 34GP38 is impossible to get. Would love an OLED 34" monitor though, I'd save up as much as I could for a quality one.
@@allyourfuturebelongstochina My cousin has a 27" 1440p IPS monitor, after trying it I thought I'd definitely buy one, but then I got the opportunity to try out my friends LG 34GN850. I legit didn't ever think a monitor could be so immersive lmao.
@@Android-ng1wn I'm still saying it and am lamenting the fact that the new pixel 6 is so much bigger than the 5. I hate not reaching everything when handling my phone with one hand.
Hello, I also ordered the product. Are you satisfied with the product now? Are there any problems (burning, shadow, etc.)? What kind of product is it in general? I will use it for games and movies for an average of 4-5 hours, some days I will use it less. Do you think I made the right decision by purchasing the product? aorus
the only problem with this monitor in practice is that its not 240/360hz. Going from 60 to this was slightly underwhelming at first, but the motion clarity in fps games puts it ahead of all non oled panels below say.....180ish fps. Buy this then upgrade to the 240hz model that is going to arrive behind the c3 or 4 lg series. Presumably gigabyte will still be able to offer a significantly lower price by relying on dsc like this model.
@@stefanrenn-jones9452 Are you high bro!? You’re complaining that it’s not 360hz at 4K and OLED? There’s so many high refresh rate monitors for esports games and other FPS’s. This is not aimed at that market. This is for movies and games where graphical fidelity is preferred over ultra-high refresh rate. This is perfect for games with ray tracing and gorgeous visuals.
Love your work guys! Will you be doing the qled version of this bad boy? the Aorus FV43U? its Cheeper but seems to be in the same tv/monitor braket making it apealing? for someone like me on a tighter budget?
Man I wish I could find a glossy 27 inch monitor. Really hate the snow flake effect of the anti reflective coating on matte displays. Makes the sharpness of 4K look way less noticeable and impressive.
So, I found this panel (Aorus 48"OLED) on Newegg current price is $1199 (US) with a $200 off coupon code AND an additional $200 mail-in rebate card, bringing the total cost (assuming there are no issues with getting the rebate card) at $799!!!! I've made the purchase and am supposed to get it on Friday. I guess I will find out if it was worth the price (and worth buying it from Newegg with all the bad publicity they have been getting lately).
I have the LG C1 as a TV and loved it so much I bought a 48" to consolidate my TV/ / dual monitor setup. Like I said, I love it as a TV but hate it as a monitor. There are probably quite a few gripes people have but (as a programmer) my 2 were: 1: Sometimes the text looks blocky or to thin and has extra white around the letters making readability difficult. 2: LG has an OLED protection feature to dim the monitor for static content . Usually when I'm coding, it dims on me and is annoying. Even when I'm typing constantly. I guess the color scheme is not changing enough to trigger a significant change so the display dims to protect the features. In general, I think I'll never get an OLED as a monitor. I'll switch back to my 2K non OLED monitor and wait for a new technology for monitors.
Your text problem sounds like sharpening halos. Was the sharpness/"super resolution" turned off? A lot of times these features are on by default but they actually make things look way worse.
I have this panel, goes on sale occasionally for around $100 off. It gets used for a variety of tasks (multi windowed productivity, PC/PS5 games, movies, etc). It is more than bright enough from about a meter away unless you are in full sun with a very dark scene. Recommendations - install new firmware, brightness 100% use windows sdr/hdr adjustment to your liking, if you hear clicking between restarts/sleep cycles let the compensation cycle run (5-10 minutes), panel protection completely gets rid of image retention (power down with joystick, takes ~ hour). It's an alternative to the LG bloat you get with a C1. Review is correct in regards to price. Inflation and profit margin are definite drawbacks.
It's not perfect, but we're finally seeing OLED monitors come to the market so you know other companies will follow suit. The fact Gigabyte is fairly new to the monitor market and already have so many monitors with such great price to performance is awesome. Can't wait until we get ultra wide or 32" OLED monitors.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but anything smaller than a 48" Oled monitor isn't happening. Oled scales upin size just fine, but anything under 48" isn't likely to happen as the technology isn't cost effective to make at smaller sizes.
Thanks for a great review as always. Was Cleartype disabled or just optimized using the wizard here? I just don't get how people mange to get so much burn in, have used my GX for over a year as a work monitor (90% of the time) with max brightness and "service menu hacks" and still don't have a hint of burn in (surprisingly enough).
Can you comment anything on the luminance overshoot/crawling blacks on this monitor? This is an issue on LG WOLED panels. F.e. for me it is the point of decision on dumping my CX and switching to gigabyte if the latter does not have this issue ...
The tv's don't have the low latency. At best you might get under 8ms on a tv vs the just over 1ms with this monitor. I game with my PC and PS5 on a standard 49-inch tv. I mostly use a controller and (for me) it's proven to be a nice setup.
Sony A80J (More expensive. Better upscaling of content that isn't native 4k. Less feature rich in terms of VRR). Vizio OLED (Cheaper, with a LOT of compromises).
I bought the C1 a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with my desicion. In the End with a Cashback Option it set me back €1200. The RTX 2080 in my pc limits the display to 60Hz with HDR, but i don't need more when playing scenic single player games. You can turn on 120hz mode, there you Notice that the Colors look a bit off, but thats not a Problem for me, when I'm playing Valorant or CS:GO. For Movies I use the the Netflix App on the TV and there I was blown away, when i first saw some Dolby Vison Content. It just looks so damn awesome.
You can just use 1440p120hz with hdr. I did this to before I bought a hdmi 2.1 gpu. 1440p still looks decent if you are not sitting very close to your C1. Especially in csgo and valorant I would say 120hz is far more important than 4k. Also hdr is more important than 4k I think, so I would definitely play at 1440p.
Is it possible to test the gamma flicker in VRR mode? This is one of the most annoying issues with LG C1 when playing VRR games on the PC and notice flickering in the dark scenes.
Best used as a "secondary" gaming screen. DO all regular desktop work on a normal monitor, then move over to the OLED for gaming (space dependent OFC).
@@8bitchiptune420 and with bluetooth you can't turn off, ads and an insanely bad menu that you can only use with a remote. No USB hub, no displayport. It ought to be cheaper for the garbage user experience.
@@8bitchiptune420 Yeah I found $100 less, $2200 for this and $2100 for the C1 (AUD). It's pretty niche but if your GPU can do 4K and doesn't have HDMI 2.1 (there's a handful of GPUs like that), you may still consider this, shame it doesn't completely match the C1 though that would've been nice.
It has worse backlight strobing, worse brightness, less features and overall just so slightly slower in all input lag and motion tests (although, to be honest, most definitely imperceptible in this last point), and is slightly more expensive. Literally only reason to buy it is if you need a display like this now and don't have a hdmi 2.1 graphics card.
6:08 What LTT shows that it is not a "risk", but it defently will burn-in. Risk is kind of probability which may occur, may not. Common CGI artist spent lots of hours per day working (with lot of static UI elements), and the burn-in will be even worse then LTT has.
@@arc11honist yeh no I was playing, I know what you mean, smaller Oleds are a long way off yet I think, I know LG is releasing a 42inch next year that everyone is looking forward to but 32 is a ways away I think just because people don't buy OLED typically for monitor use so they keep it TV sized for the vast majority of sales they will make which intend to use as a TV.
@jzo i use a VG27AQL1A and i do see a difference in clarity with backlight strobing when playing apex legends and other fps where you track moving targets. Im also the kind of person that turns off motion blur, DoF and hate FXAA/TAA and certain DLSS implementations cause they all reduce image clarity. So i guess it also depends on how sensitive the person looking at it to shifts in sharpness and what kind of game is being played
Hey man! Love your videos. Could I please get your honest opinion on which monitor I should choose between the Asus PG279QM or the Alienware AW2721D. I really care about the image quality and would like your opinion. 👍
up until early 2010s FPS pro players still played on them. Many of them could hit 240hz. Problem is they had to reduce their resolution to reach that. So it wasn't that sought after back then. Lack of ghosting and no response lag was the real reason people kept them. They also blasted your eyes with way more radiation than is socially acceptable nowadays(you get more from many sources now anyway) .
TLDR: Just by the LG C1, the Gigabyte uses LG's OLED panel but somehow makes it worse, which is due to the processing behind the scenes. Plus you can use the LG as a full on TV. Doesn't pretty much everyone in the world still use LG's OLED panels?? Or are there other vendors making their own panels??
@@DarkReturns1 Then turn it on or off before playing a game, unless you're switching between HDR/non-HDR games 10 times a day it's a much better alternative then leaving it on for desktop where it's just a downgrade nearly all the time and brings nothing to the table.
Glad I got the C1 48”. I’m currently running it at 1440p without display scaling so there are black bars all around the picture. I’m essentially left with a 32” 1440p 120hz OLED, which is awesome. You do of course need the space to put the TV on your desk.
I've heard you call monitor crosshairs "cheat crosshairs" multiple times, but I can't really think of any games that it gives an advantage on, can anyone give some examples?
@@arc11honist Makes sense, I've never played EFT so I'll take your word on that. I assume the guns are at least semi-accurate when not scoped in, is that true?
for my use gigabyte model will fit like a glove , as a developer and casual gamer having DP / USB type c / KVM switch built in is everything that I wanted so I think it's depends of the use cases hope they make a 42 inch using the latest panel from LG C2 line
This is exactly what I thought of this stupid Gigabyte Oled. Moreover here in europe it is much more expensive than the C1 and you can even get the g1 for the price of the fo48u which is just laughable.
hi just watched your video of lg 48 c1 and aorus fo48u looking to buy the lg c1 i have a 2080ti gpu is this sufficient for the lg monitor,thanks in advance
Another thing i would note if you ever plan on using streaming services go with the LG. It might not seem like a big deal at first but some streaming services like Disney+ have terrible support on pc and will limit you to 720p streaming. It much better to use the built-in smart tv apps to ensure you will get 4k Dolby Vision for that content that supports it.
I bought an LG Oled C1 48" for my gaming pc and loved it until the screen burn in started. then I bought another one... few weeks later same thing. I believe this 'monitor' would do the same thing if it has the same panel. I would really like a 48" 144hz QLED 'gaming' tv from Samsung! (currently using the 55" 120hz qled and no burn in for over a month right now)
@@beaprostore You obviously haven't read the review's for OLED's and desktop use. It's all over Reddit and even Linus Techtips shows how bad it is. Please do some research or have some experience in the topic you're talking about before making a reply.
I have seen multiple tests with hundreds of hours of use with no burn in, so either you were extremely unlucky to get 2 faulty panels in a row or you were leaving bright static images on the screens from the minute you took em out of the box!
After watching some videos from colleagues before watching this, can I just point out that the quality of your videos is just the best,... by far. And I mean the quality of the image, you guys must have a great setup. What do you use for a camera and for lighting?
The fact that you can't even adjust the monitor's angles etc makes it a complete fail to me. At that size you need to be able to tilt it at the very least. So this is just a castrated TV that's useful for exactly nothing.
I'm just throw this out here in the hopes some bright mind picks up on it. My Samsung LC49HG90 has some issues at start up. Recently it shows stripy distorted pictures. After 1 or 2 hard reboots of pc it seems to work fine again. The monitor is about 2yrs old. I'm just wondering if this a gpu issue or monitor issue or something completely different. Any advice/help is appreciated.
That's a major fail imo. It's like Gigabyte is saying "Well, they're there if you care. But, we highly doubt that you would in the first place. And, neither do we.". There are a couple of console games that actually run at 4K/120.
HDMI 2.1 does have a new cable called Ultra High Speed HDMI. It can transmit data at 48 Gbps, 2.6x faster than current HDMI cables. Current HDMI 2.0 resolution and refresh rate capabilities cap out at 4K/60 fps or 8K/30 fps, while 2.1 can carry all the way up to 10K/120 fps.Feb 3, 2021
@@roscobosco500 ok I understand that but what I'm asking is what difference does half the bandwidth in this monitor mean compared to an lg c1 for instance? I'm assuming the image is slightly more compressed so does that mean worse resolution, worse colour or something else?
@@faiello19 for 4k 120 hz, you won't get the full color 4:4:4 format if the device doesn't have dsc (display stream compression). That's why bandwidth of 24gbs is a problem with Gigabytes implementation of hdmi 2.1. So basically only newest generation of graphics cards can use Gigabytes hdmi 2.1
Using the C7 have lots of Burnin from gaming and pixel refresh doesnt help. It is depend of time used if u play RDR2 for months u end up with the Minimap burn in
5,200 hours so far on my B9 from 2019, first 4,000 were TV/Xbox use at max brightness (previous owner, I got it used) and since then dedicated PC monitor - zero panel issues I used to be afraid of burn in for years, and I do still believe OLED has a limited life span well below a standard LCD but the pixel refresher and built in safeties (even though I've turned most off with the service remote) are good enough that I would expect 5-10 years of heavy use before anything significant becomes apparent. Unless you specifically run it under a worst case scenario like an idiot (as shown in the RTINGS burn in tests)..
