Hey Owen. You dont REALLY have to think about your graphics card when it comes to a 4K display. Integerscaling works perfectly and lets you play games at native 1080p with the added benefit of higher PPI so you dont see any pixels at all. I get your point for users who want to only play at 4K. But theres no real reason to play at 4K when theres integerscaling (prety much everything) or DLSS/FSR Performance for that 1080p performance or balanced -> quality depending on the game. Also integerscaling should work on all models.
I got mine for 650€ and it's hard to justify buying one of the new 32" ones for double the price even though the size would be better as a monitor for me personally.
I feel like people should look at their monitor just as much as they look at their GPU funding. I mean, after all, we don't look at our GPUs all day when playing games. Personally, I value the monitor a bit more which is why I fit a 4k QD-OLED monitor into my budget and then a 4070 super FE.
Bought a 42" LG C3 not long ago, and I'm never going back. Love the glossy screen personally. Best screen I've ever bought, was an impulse purchase as well as I was getting sick of compromising with crappy monitors throughout the years.
My thoughts exactly. Been surrounded by Samsung tvs and monitors for the last 10-15 years. They were great before 4k stuff. A 4k curved screen was a gimmick but still looked decent. Got a 4k monitor from them in 2020, looked pretty awful and lacked basic features. Roomate got a brand new 4k 120 hz samsung tv and I was happy I didn't buy it because it didn't look great. Was tired of Samsung and always heard awesome things about LG tvs so I said fuck it. Very happy I did. Can't believe what I been missing out on. Never going back to Samsung. I'm interested in Sony tvs tho, they look pretty dope as well
It is perfectly fine to upgrade to a larger 4K monitor without upgrading your graphics card, because with a large 4K monitor, you can just play in windowed 1440p mode without affecting your current fps. Benefits of playing in windowed 1440p, you can still read chats, or monitor anything you put around the game window.
@@bricaaron3978 Its what ever works. People have an amazing ability to make a bad situation seem great as if he wanted it that way from the start. Yea I wanted that baseball tossed though my windows, I get more ventilation now. I identify as a full screen 4k gamer even though in reality I play in a 720p window on a 4k screen. Same thing right?
Warning: The so called "pixel refresher" doesn't refresh pixels with burn in. Instead, it just burns everything else and now the whole panel has burn-in, but it's just a less noticeable, even burn-in. Over time it will affect the image quality in a more noticeable way
@@dabelidubelidabelidadada1222 the manual pixel refresh should only be run when you see issues not as preemptive measure. LG OLED TVs have an automatic refresh hat runs automaticly so the manual one should only be used when you see issues because the pixels wear out faster. Burn In on OLEDs is not literally burn in. It is uneven pixel wear out. The pixel refresh tries to mitigate this by adjusting healthier pixels to the worn out ones.
Hi Daniel : Re the LG control weirdness there is a way you can reprogram one of the LG remotes so it doesn't interact with the other TV, I was able to do it with a LG CX and then just a run of the mill 2016 LG TV, only issue is the power button is an IR Blaster so it will turn them both on so you are stuck in trying to "hide" it from the other TV when turning one on.
For anyone who wants high bandwidth HDMI or DP, look into Fiberoptic cables. Those are unaffected by EM or crosstalk from other cables (especially power cables). Those turn the electric signal into a laser signal and send it through a fiber cable. The other plug that's in your TV will sense the laser light and turn that back into an electric signal. This way you can get the full HDMI or DP bandwidth over a long cable, something that is electrically challenging on normal cables over a long distance. (That's why normal high bandwidth cables are normally so short or super expensive and high length. Often you can also have issues on long cables, where you are forced to run 4:2:0 colors instead of the full bandwidth using 4:4:4 color) They are also very thin and can be safely bend more than regular copper core cables. You can get them in 100m length no problem and length does no increase cost by that much, so it's very useful if you want to hook up a projector far away from your PC. A lot of those cables are one-directional, so you need to make sure you plug the right end into your graphics card or you won't get a signal out of them.
My latest amazon order included three optic hdmi cables for two TV's that are wall mounted. Routing the cables out of sight requires long cables and I found out xbox with 4K didn't work anymore :P
i bought an alienware aw3423dwf refurbished for 600 euros 1 week ago, been using it for 3 days, it's BLOWING my mind, coming from a lg 27gp850 ips, colors are almost the same but man the contrast and the hdr peak 1000 mode are worth it so much i'm very very sensitive and yet i don't notice fringing or vrr flickering
Asus rog swift pg32ucdm on my side. Had the alienware aw3225qf and returned because of VRR flickering. My Asus one has it too... And I don't now what I can do. Try Forza horizon 5 yourself. Drive a car with a dark fitting and you'll see it instantly. Same with Avatar frontiers of pandora. Flickering in darker areas and corners. Strange is, that the flickering is always there. People said, that it would only be there with heavy fps fluctuations. I capped mine. Framerate and frametime graph are completely flat. No drops or spikes what so ever. No background applications are open. Only the game launcher itself. I tried unplugging my second monitor. Didn't help. I'm asking myself if it could be windows 10... I'm using a rtx 4090 with windows 10... Could windows 11 fix that problem?
@@yugdesiral movies in hdr? Which hdr mode? I tried hdr videos and movies but hdr peak 1000 dims the image too much, hdr true black is somewhat better with high apl content, i've yet to try the movie hdr mode
Real talk. Here's my hot take: OLED Monitors are nowhere near OLED TVs and it's kinda ironic since monitors are smaller in size. I bought a newly released Alienware 27in 360hz 1440p QD-OLED monitor(AW2725DF) that had amazing reviews. When I got it I thought I was pranked because my expectations were too high based on the reviews. I was happy with vibrancy in colors and 360hz but it just was not bright enough in any mode. My 6 year old LCD monitor had higher brightness. Every time I turned Alienware on, It reminded me of my old bright monitor. So, I returned it. I did not give up on OLED since I know it can do better (most phones now have better panels than what most TVs people have). I researched and personally looked at the new OLED TVs. LG G4 4K 120hz OLED TV looked spectacular and I bought it. I cant be happier with it's brightness, contrast, black levels and other features. Compared to the Alienware, it's just an eye candy. I looked up at the brightness levels of other OLED Monitors and it's just sad. I won't be upgrading my actual monitor for a while because of how pathetic they are.
Did you not have HDR on? What HDR was it certified for? I’m using a aw3423dw and with HDR1000 it’s eye searing bright, it literally hurts my eyes to look at the sun. If it was too dim with HDR on in SDR content, there is a slider in windows to adjust that balance. Slider automatically defaults to be the dimmest for SDR.
you oled monitor are great specially like me who plays both competitive and story games but for you hell yea TV oleds are amazing than monitors for Story Games and Movies, Work. but for competitive I dont really know but for me its just too big so yea Oled Gaming Monitor it is
Went from 1440p 240hz Samsung G7 to LG C3 42inch Oled. I have a 4090 so 4k is a breeze. I'm happy with the C3 42" as it was the cheapest 4k Oled monitor/panel I can get. Picked up a new one last week for 899€.
I have been using a 48" LG CX since it launched and have never looked back. Has 13,336 hours on it as of this moment according to the display's built in screen on timer. No burn-in. Some slight banding and screen uniformity visable on test paterns but day to day 100% not noticable. I did have a pixel burn out on the very edge maybe 2 or 3k hours ago... but as of writing this it seems to be working again... perhaps a pixel refresher pass cleaned it up. I think the burn-in scare that all reviewers mention is really not a big deal for a general customer who is using the display for gaming, web browsing, and media consumtion. The positives are huge. Once you see the contrast in person its hard to go back. Pixel response time is amazing, almost zero motion blur. I have a 49" LG NANO 85 right next to it... and the OLED makes the LCD look like crap side my side. Currently I am wanting to get something closer to 40" 4k OLED 240hz. I have a 4090 and like mentioned by Daniel, 4k max settings on a lot of games with DLSS 3.5 (frame generation) I get over 120hz so I have to limit frame rates. (super first world problem I know) I would go 32" but I have some other 32" displays and its just not large enough for my personal liking. 40" really is my favorite size, but I would/will settle for 42" (41.5") once they come out with 240hz models.
Isn't the "grayness" of qd-oled panels due to their reflective coating? Which should help with glare in some situation as I've understood (at least that is the case with TV-s).
I personally use an LG CX OLED 55” for my entertainment unit as well as a gaming HTPC setup (for lighter gaming titles e.g. Baulders Gate: 3) and a 27” HDR 4K LCD with FALD technology for main gaming sessions, some BluRay watching, and production work.
I'm like the opposite, I went from a IPS to a VA that a lot of people consider inferior and I'm liking it a lot more! It has really deep blacks and a lot of contrast for the colours, so it really feels like an upgrade. But I did go from a cheap 1080p@60 monitor a cheap 3440x1440@144 so your mileage may vary!
I'm on a 48 inch OLED, LG C3. I think 48 inches is perfect, because its great for watching movies also. If its "too big", then sit a few inches back. When you have windows scaling set to 100% @4K resolution, its still hard to see everything on the screen because its so small, but its possible. So to me, that means 48 inches is not too big at all. I agree though, you can't go back to a non OLED. The perfect blacks and HDR are so important for gaming, its almost as important as having a good graphic card.
I really like OLED but tbh Samsung VA panels are almost as good and even better in some instances. Usually you won't notice the difference, I have a Samsung 57" and a LG OLED side by side and the difference is smaller than you think. I would pick the VA panel over the OLED 90% of the time because of size, ultrawide, less worry about burn in, the brightness of the display in HDR content (the difference is really underestimated), etc. VA panels with MiniLED, and hopefully MicroLED, are really competitive with OLED.
4:52 - the faster response time does NOOOOT belong the less motion blur! What shameful and confusion!! Because we get still motion blur on OLED! But yes the shorter persistence time (equal to harder flicker/strobe or to higher vertical frequency) reduces the motion blur.
Never ever im going back to a regular monitor. Got a 48” LG C2 Oled with RTX 4090 and im still amazed when gaming at 4k compared with a regular 4k monitor or my 34” ultra wide monitor.
Exactly. I have 3 different Samsung screens, 2 TVs and 1 monitor, all 4k. 60-120hz. $2000 curved TV was alright, overpriced gimmick. Other TV is newest of all, pretty disappointing, very glad I didn't buy it. My monitor, good second hand price, disappointed at visuals for being 4k, plus no internal speakers is mad annoying, pretty dim, does the job tho. Wasn't until I bought a brand new LG C3 for black friday that a screen left an impression on me. To this day, every time I turn it on it warms up and impresses me. People who come over always say something about it when we game or watch stuff, even if they've already come over. I bought the C3 to pair with my new pc with 7900xtx, and honestly the LG was the better technology decision. It just looks so insane, wish my eyes were that HD and colorful
QD-OLED doesn't nessecarily reflect light differently. Because they're gaming monitors (especially the ultrawides) and generally used in the dark (rather than TVs or productivity monitors) they have a Glossy coating. The glossy coating is what gives the more defined reflections and general brighter hue in bright environments, but actually look better in the dark. (WOLED usually has a Matte coating, there's downsides to both options)
I've been very happy with my 1080p60 IPS monitor for several years now, it has a rare glossy panel for a monitor which seems to go halfway as much as OLED does for making colours pop anyway.
I have had a G1 Oled for a couple of years. I bought the iPad Pro since they went Oled and then I got the Samsung G8 32 inch. It also has a matte finish and since I have my desk up to the window, it's a welcome feature. Not too worried about burn in. I have had a 720p plasma for 14 years and it just barely has burn in when you run the test. Otherwise you don't notice at all. So unless you're working constantly I don't see an issue.
well your basically shit out of luck on that cz even VAs suffer from this issue. the only brand ive seen mitigate this issue is samsung with there VRR flickering setting but apparently that induces stutter/latency
@@rochester3 You are lying. Every oled have this issue. If you don't have it then you are just playing minecraft at 120 fps locked all the time. Go play ANY games in 4k in VRR with an unstable framerate, you will have flickering issue. Every single oled have the issue. I myself have a cx oled 65'' and I'm telling you, it have flickering issue. You have it too, 1000%. Either your brain is too slow and dont see it, either you are just playing minor games in 144p at 120 stable fps, either you are lying.
Got a really good deal on two Samsung 4K QLED TVs with full array technology running at 120Hz. Uses an IPS like panel. Using a TV as a monitor has been a real joy. After calibration, the colors are near perfect and make up for the average contrast and brightness. The price was the deciding factor: $800usd for 75" panel and $650usd for a 65". Best part is that I bought them at Microcenter with their 2 year warranty. Samsung and other panel mfgs have crap warranties and can be a nightmare to warranty.Could you discuss more about HDR and is it an application only supported technology? P.S. OLED still has flicker issues using Variable Refresh Rate that you did not discuss.
65" LG B9 - ruined me completely. i bought one on sale many many moons ago - and on a whim i thought, hmmm, let me plug my PC into this... I'd tried with every TV i owned and it was always trash. but i still had to give it a try, for science! imagine my surprise when the desktop came up and... wooooow... like OMG wow. my struggling 2070 at the time was only able to "play" certain games but that quickly turned into a 3070, then 3080 10gb and now a 4080 16 - all in effort to push 4k because i once made the "mistake" of connecting my PC to an OLED TV. rocking a 48 c2 now and it's, without question, the best gaming monitor i've ever owned.
Can you invest a little in your room too and remove the echo's using sound absorption wall panels. And about oled I would wait for 2 years for oled's to get cheaper and without burn-in problems, and unless you have money to waist than go right ahead, after all somebody have to test technology so I could enjoy better version in the future.
Do update us on the matte finish.. And please keep it unbiased, as Optimum’s review seemed kind of like *’Yeah it’s no big deal’* *’I kind of like it, it lessens the glare’* - Okay, but is there a visible and noticeable clarity difference? Yes or no? If I’m buying a screen for damn near 1800$ as it costs where I live, I want to be sure it’s not visually noticeable
Honestly I just got a TCL QM8 and the picture quality is far better my LG CX. I find the dimming algorithm used in miniled TVs is far better than monitors. LCD monitors still have a long way to come.
I'd love to see your thoughts on a premium mini-led display (1000+ zones) and how it fares against OLED, and whether it's enough for an enthusiast like you.
Got a LG C3 last black friday for $800. INSANE deal. Best technology decision I ever made. The screen is absolutely next level, never had impressions about a screen until then. Got it for my new PC with 7900xtx and the OLED tv was the better purchase than the actual PC. Can't believe games could look this good
Asus did make an OLED panel with G-Sync for their Zephyrus G16 2024 model, so maybe we should see that on monitors soon. I'll probably get that laptop just for that screen over the Lenovo Legion 7i
48” CX OLED user here, had it for over 3 years now and it’s amazing! I can’t see myself replacing it for another 3 years. OLED HDR has killed standard monitors for me permanently. I only wish it had a higher refresh rate as even 4k games I play can regularly hit the refresh ceiling with framegen and DLSS. I can still play games in 3440 or 3840x1440 ultra wide resolutions too, and the black bars top and bottom are not an issue due to absolute blacks.
The fact that OLED is like 3-4 times the price of a comparable IPS panel, and it can suffer from things like burn-in is such a fundamental flaw for me. If I spent such an heavy amount on a monitor, I'd expect it to last for at the very least, a decade. That's how long I've had my old AOC IPS panel monitor, which only broke down very recently because my cat decided to run over it and it fell over.
You do worry about maybe someday eventually having burn in on oled but you did not care that you paid for a monitor that display grey instead of black, has ips glow and backlight bleed? Seriously?
Well, display market was never perfect. Before OLED you could choose between better contrast VA panel with slower response times, more noticeable ghosting and bad viewing angles or IPS with good colors, but horrible contrast and infamous IPS glow. OLED brings perfect viewing angles, perfect contrast, instantaneous response times, lower power draw, waaay more impactful HDR presentation at the expense of potential burn in. It was always a compromise. BUT, I have had LG C1 WOLED for almost 3 years now for my PC (job as a programmer, a lot of web viewing with static content, games) used for many hours a day and I don't notice any burn in, and I'm a first person to notice such things (being one of the first adopters of OLED as a monitor I think confirms that as I had given up on LCDs lol). I think it's worth it, even if it lasts for 5 years with good performance. I have LCD TVs in my basement that have burn in! So that's one more reason to be a bit more forgiving for a OLED, because they give you a lot for a one drawback, but I understand for some it's not that small. But I'm fine with that given what I get in return compared to LCDs.
@@siruspan You don't notice mediocre contrast when it's sitting by itself. You DO notice burn in sitting by itself. I had a TV that several local dimming zones went out and it was obnoxious AF to look at. Every time you'd see a bright image there was chunks of the screen that looked like a dirty splotch. I'd have preferred it not have the local dimming at all after that.
10yrs for a monitor? I always sell off/give away my monitors well before 10yrs. I don't even keep my vehicles for 10yrs. 5-6yrs is more than long enough time for monitors/TVs.
In regards to the power required to push 4k gaming, yes it is demanding. With lg c series you can make custom ultra wide resolution which makes it less demanding. Another factor is these panels will display a pretty good 1440p image as well.
I just watched a guy talking for 22 minutes about monitors that are more expensive than my whole setup lmao. Blud I'm using a 1440p IPS 170Hz Acer monitor that I got 2 years ago after working in summer for the first time and I'm using a 1650 with a r5 3600 to run it. The 1650 was already starting to be obsolete in normal 1080p so I'm literally stuck with upscale or die. Or just older games and e-sports (I mainly play fortnite, but even that is starting to get harder to run over time) I also started running some games at straight up 720p to account for that and it gives a really good performance boost without really looking so terrible. Since every pixel is stretched to exactly 4 pixels so there is no weird stretching or blurriness that happens. It's better than running 720p on a 1080p display. It's much more sharper and better. I also have this really old 900p monitor that I got for literally 15 dollars or smthn when I left for College. I took my pc with me but left my monitor back home and got this 17 or 21 inch monitor idek what display type it had, maybe TN? Although it had bad colors and all but I kinda loved just being able to crank that resolution slider to the max and just not having anything to worry about. It was fun but now my pc is back home so I don't use it anymore (I actually left it at my friend's house and didn't get it back cuz I'm too lazy) I literally hadn't had fun or taken full advantage of my main monitor yet tho. I'm honestly waiting for AMD's RX 8000 series or Intel's 2nd Gen GPUs. Cuz I prefer a more efficient lower powered modern card rather than an older cheaper but less efficient. Power draw is kinda a big deal here unfortunately. I honestly
Id love an oled but ive held off because i do a lot of work in photoshop, sometimes spending 8hrs in the program. With that much time on a static ui, I've worried about burn in and held off on the purchase.
I got "Burn in" on my LG CX 48" exactly three years after I bought it, lucky for me I had the BestBuy warranty. I love Oled's and they look great but they don't last.
Asus and Dough have the WOLED with glossy coating. Dough with corning gorilla glas actually with a special coating that blocks reflection-glare, like the s24 ultra. this combination should be standard for any monitor manufacturer and is the only choice for a complete package.
Repeating myself but the C1 has the BFI aka Oled Motion Pro option that boosts visual clarity from 120fps to 312FPS already and does it in a much better way by removing motionblur with no cost in lag or adding visual artifacts (only reduce the brightness a little) than frame generation ever will match. 48" also isn't that big if you get a deeper desk. I'm really disappointed that you're downgrading to something else.
Yeah, it's nuts! Hopefully he at least keeps the C1 somewhere safe so that this is still recoverable. (Getting a new CX or C1 at this point would cost a small fortune if he could even still find one. I barely was able to still get one last year when I finally switched to OLED.)
Since I got LG 48C1 3 years ago. I finally end digging all kinds of specs of monitors. It’s so superb as a gaming monitor and also good for casual use.❤
Every OLED I have ever owned eventually burns in. The Pixel refresher offers diminishing returns. Organic decay is built into the technology. Anybody claiming it doesn't occur anymore is nothing more than wishful thinking. Why do you think it needs a pixel refresher. I guess if you don't look for it and ignore it I you can claim you've never had a problem but as I said before organic decay is built into the technology. Why would anybody want a disposable monitor no matter how pretty it is at first. If people would just stop buying them then maybe micro LED might become mainstream but as long as people are willing to pay for garbage then they will just keep selling them.
Because most enthusiast change out their monitor before any of those issues arise. People interested in this type of monitor most like change monitor every 3-4 years. Some even more frequently so it's never really an issue that comes up.
Don't complain about burn in without telling us what you did to it. I've had a OLED tv for ,7 years, no noticeable burnin. I got burn in on my galaxy note9 from watching RU-vid in vertical, but I learned my lesson and later phones don't have it because I watch horizontal or switch the screen off
@@xpusostomos Burn in on a phone or a tv is simply not comparable to an OLED screen that sees typical PC usage. They can't even remotely be compared. PC users will always have much more instances of static images on screen no matter how much they try to mitigate it. The risk of burn is so many times higher on an oled that sees pc use. Which is exactly why brightness is down on oled monitors vs comparable tvs and some manufacturers giving no burn in warranty period.
i had this thing in the past, where, at some point, always some kind of TV endet on my desk for the PC, even like 10 years ago. This made it easier for me to decide, that i do want an LG CX 48". And boy, this "TV" not only is the best monitor i've ever had for my PC, but, quite possibly, the best PC part i have ever bought! I have to recommend to everyone to just give it a chance and try it. It's the wet dream of a humongous monitor i had since the CRT days.. with even better black levels. What i also do is, i'm using quite low brightness levels, i use dark mode for everything (even dark reader plugin for chrome) and the "eye comfort" mode (=low blue light). This makes everything soooo much less offensive and less straining on your eyes. Remember: you do not need much brightness on OLEDs due to the perfect black levels and thus high contrast ratio. All in all, i couldn't be happier.
Hi Daniel, I’ve gone through the LG 27GR95QE, Alienware AW2725DF, MSI MPG 271QRX, Alienware AW3225QF, ASUS PG32UCDM, and LG 32GS95UE. The best gaming monitor I’ve ever used is without a doubt the PG32UCDM and the most disappointing of the lot was the LG 32GS95QE. I retuned it in no less than five hours actually. The matte finish is truly criminal on WOLED. You’ll notice it most on white backgrounds but after using semi-glossy QD-OLED’s I can pick out the lack of clarity and shimmer effect on higher APL games. The 480Hz mode is extremely fast and fun to use but the clarity for anything other than video games is quite atrocious. I was also disappointed in the factory color calibration with the sRGB mode being poor in particular. The other issue with the LG was shadow detail as blacks were crushed. Just my two cents!
After Mobile and TV as OLED I also don't want to go back, when I eventually replace my VA screen. But why are OLED pc screens so expensive? A 32 inch screen costs about the same as what I paid for the 65 inch C3 from LG. That is crazy.
Im also upgrading my monitor from 1440p 165 hz IPS. But I'm currently outside of the US, and the most affordable option was the Dell aw3225qf. It won by default 😅. It was also on sale by $300, couldn't pass it up. Arrives next week. Can't wait!
You're doing a huge mistake by replacing your C1. It's the last OLED monitor/TV with a 120hz BFI option. It's INSANELY GOOD for gaming because it makes 120FPS looks like 300FPS to the human eye with no tricks and no lag. The C2 onward and other brand of the same year all decided to remove this option. I'm keeping my C1 until it turns to dust.
@@MaxIronsThird That is his whole point. The C1 works at 120 Hz, every one after that only work at up to 60 hz. I don't own the C1 but that is how I understand it works anyway.
I have a 32" 4k monitor now and since I have started having to wear readers and have an astigmatism, I would really appreciate a larger monitor. I would love maybe a 5 or 6K OLED monitor in the 40" range.
I remember first seeing OLED when the Samsung M900 moment was released. I had been a fan of plasma at that time (my friend is still using my old "50 plasma till this day) but I saw OLED as the final/ultimate display tech then and 14 years later I still see no competitor.
I just bought the alienware 32 inch 240hz 4k monitor one day ago. already had the neo g8 from samsung for at least a year and then some. brightness is only good after enabling 1000 hdr peak in settings. I calibrated the monitor with x-rite that helped. Honestly this monitor is great.
Some phones have reflective screens as well like my iPhone X. The notch and surrounding borders are darker than the display. This is not only a QD-OLED issue. The iPhone X screen (and all other iPhone OLEDs afaik) is also made my Samsung.
This really seems to be the case with most tech. You get an upgrade then you never tolerate a downgrade ever angain. The contrary is also true, if you don't what you have been missing then you don't really need it. I'm still using a 14yo 1080p 60hz LED TV as my monitor. While I do struggle in FPS games, it's fine for everything else.
OMG Daniel keep the C1! It's still the best thing, because it and its sibling the CX are the only ones with advanced hardware rolling scan BFI yielding an effective 300Hz motion clarity or more. At the cost of only 120Hz at 4K! There's still just nothing else like them in the OLED space. Please if you haven't tried BFI do so. Coming from an FW900 CRT, the CX/C1, finally gave me an off ramp. No way I'd trade this display for that one you picked with out the motion clarity at 4K like this one has. And also if you think the almost miraculous screen finish the C series has is the norm for LGs you're in for a rude shock with that terrible matte coating that LG has so far insisted on using with their OLED monitors...
I have Dell AW3423DWF you have in the back there, for around a year now. I'm a graphic designer and really value picture quality. Gaming on this monitor was the biggest step up in my gaming experience in a very long time. Games on this look absolutely amazing - specially those that run in HDR. As I play single player games 99% of the time, I'd rather have a slower graphics card and this monitor than the other way around. I cannot recommend it enough to everyone.
I have seen the Lg matte coating, it is not the worst of the world,but certainly it looks less sharp. I would prefer to get the glossy qd oled, I have never seen the pink color in any game or movie or any situation except when it is off. I will wait for another generation when displayport 2.1 cables are more common and we have the 5090/5080 then pull the trigger for sure the ne qd-oled coming will be better... WOLED it is not better, 1080p 480hz for a reviewer or profesional sport player could make sense, but for regular gamers it doesn't... bottom line, I would n never trade my glossy pink for a blurry mate coating and I would never trade the wide color gamut of qd-oled for woled...
for gaming it's not an issue. Productivity sure, but the benefits of OLED are fewest in productivity anyway. They're content consumption beasts. Nothing lasts forever.
To be fair the IPS display at 9:24 wouldnt look that bad in person, the camera exposure is higher than ideal which won't affect a display that can display true blacks but the blown out blurry icons on the IPS are revealing the result of camera overexposure (which also makes lcd black levels worse in a photo).
@@LayerZlayer2000 Nah bro. I mean they really need make G series 42"/48". That`s what i mean. C series is badget series it is not high end tech from LG.
I have a 42" C2. I would like 240hz+ too, but the models available just aren't compelling enough for me. I'm hoping 2025 will be the best time to upgrade. If anything, if the monitors still suck the C4 will be cheap and the C5 might be a worthy upgrade.
I have the LG 42" C3 Evo and I use it with my old RTX 3080 10GB. It's fine as long I use upscalers like DLSS. Without upscalers only old games will do, but I do also have a RTX 4090 that I haven't installed in the system yet. Edit: I'm seeing a slight amount of burn in (yes burn in, not image retention as the pixel refresh did not solve it) in the greyscale in the middle of the screen. This is clearly because I use my browser in two tabs that fill 50% of the screen each. I wonder when this will become a problem I cannot avoid noticing.
The Alienware 4k 32 inch curved and it being white was the selling point to me. Rocking a full white setup and I’m sure it’ll fit right in. Ordering mine this week🥳
You described exactly what I have been going through ever since these new 4k oled monitors have come out. I decided to just hold off and stay with the C1 to see if anything better comes out
I know, I can't go back to the MX34VQ even though 3440x1440 is my favorite resolution. There are downsides in scenarios regarding illumination lighting on your skin and work area to control a certain type of atmosphere where a low sized footprint is good for a setup environment, but you'd have to be very naive to believe PPI and office use outweighs the advantages of this technology. It is just unreal especially when the UI isn't properly scaled for this resolution it genuinely works and keeps the user in the center of the action. I sit far enough back from mine it is not an issue whatsoever, but truthfully the ideal size for 4k is only about 32" or even less. Won't be until next year when the 8k 240hz starts rolling in will it significantly be feasible to push a 42" upwards displays without losing the integer correct detail density. At that point those screens will be exclusively for people who don't like size at all. Another thing to take note is the software and hardware powering the display. Ai Gen Super Resolution and Sharpening whether or not it's supported in Hdr goes a long way to assist in clarity to such an extent we can confidently say 8k will be the be all end all for the regular person.
A lot of people seem for forget the 4k 42 inch bendable WOLED from LG, that's a great option and I've seen nothing but great reviews come from it as well. I am going to go this route for my next display + a next gen big screen beyond if they ever come out with a refresh version fixing the lens and add eye tracking.
You can change than in settings. Auto brightness. You have to change settings for every HDMI output since each keeps its own different settings. It may even change based on connecting different devices on same HDMI port.
@@KelvinKMS24 more frames per second might not be worth the price premium for most users. C3 are going on clearance sales got mine for a $1000 discount.
You better wait for asus 32"4k woled, it promises black frame insertion, and maybe it won't have broken HDR that LG has (also lg has crashed blacks). BTW it's not about colour volume of QD-OLEDs, it's more about washed out HDR highlights on WOLED (because most of the brightness of lowest percent HDR highlights comes from white subpixel - you can look at TFT central coverage of that)
I think the buy-in for 4k gaming is still too expensive right now. It's far, far cheaper to do 1440p and reach higher graphical fidelity and framerate, and your options in monitors is much more affordable.
When do you think microled will be available for mainstream? It should have all benefits of the oled (colors,picture quality,low latency etc) without its downsides(no burn in risk and higher brightness).
For hdmi 2.1 compatible long cables, consider using fiber optic hdmi. They work great but they are directional so you have to watch which end you plug in.
I was chasing Oled tvs for a while to use as monitors, but then I remembered that Im using a vizio tv from over a decade ago, so whatever decent 40 inch 600 dollar or less TV I get should be an improvement.
It depends. My Samsung G9 (no Neo) has so great deep black-level, it's like OLED to me and as a graphics designer I know what deep black has to look like. For work I got a similar priced Philips Display with 49" and the black is dark-grey in comparison.
Also used 48C1 as a monitor for last 3 years. Unfortunately, it now has untolerable burn-in, have to replace it. Ordered me a MSI URX321 monitor. Kind of had to make peace with the fact that I will have to replace it in another 3 years or so.
Does that one at least have a 3 year warranty? I have a aw3423dw and I do expect burn in, hopefully before the 3 year warranty ends so I’d be able to push the lifespan to 5-6 years
I’m never going back down to regular monitor sizes, my LG CX 48 inch will replaced with a OLED TV of same or similar size. Personally I don’t have too much in the way of static images etc so haven’t had any image retention but be aware, the pixel refresher works by making the other pixels as bad as the burned ones, it’s not something you should do too often as you are wearing out the display quicker.
I tried a 32 qd oled 240hz and couldn't do it, love my size of my 42 c2 at 4 feet wall mounted just behind my desk. Hoping LG releases a 240hz version next year.
PG32UCDP. Love it. My two monitors are PG27UQ and PG32UCDP. The PG27UQ is a mixed bag of emotions. It has a sharper picture, words are easier to read and it is brighter. The PG32UCDP is gorgeous with its inky blacks and high 240Hz and 480Hz refresh rates. The PG27UQ had a list price of $1999.99 vs the PG32UCDP list price of $1299. The PG27UQ ended up dropping to $1399 when MicroCenter last had it in Houston. IPS vs OLED.... If you are only going with one monitor, meaning aside from gaming, you'd be using it to use the web and or work... then IPS is the clear winner. If you are strictly a gamer or that is your priority, then OLED is the way.
I use a 65" Oled for my monitor. It works great the size is perfect for how far away I sit like 10ft. I got rid of cable and satellite in 2008 and have 2 HTPC's one in my living room and one in the bedroom. Wireless keyboard and a trackball with the dpi turned up to be able to quickly easily move the mouse across the big screen. When I originally looked into monitors vs tv's a couple years ago now when I bought this oled a real 65" computer monitor that did 4k 144hz was 5000.00USD and not OLED either. So a oled @ 2000.00USD 120hz seemed like the way to go. Another great thing about OLED is how black works on a OLED when a pixel is black the pixel is actually in a off state. So by using a blank screen saver you can totally mitigate screen burn in this way. Mine is set to 2 minutes the whole screen turns black which is technically off until I bring it out of screen saver mode. 1300 for a 32in monitor ow my balls. You will still need to push it way back to look at it sitting at a desk. If you want a 27in they seem to get more expensive the smaller you go wth.
I have had the 27in 240hz OLED LG monitor for 7 months now and I have not noticed any burn in issues. It runs the pixel cleaning almost every time I turn it off and since I play in a dark room the matte screen hardly affects me. Staring at my ips monitors and seeing the edges glow will make me never go back to them
OLED "pixel cleaning" deliberately burns your less-used pixels to match the worst ones (and should actually be run as little as possible). If you want to see what you're actually losing over time, you need to turn it off, and then compare the worst part of the screen with the best (or compare it to a brand new panel).
How deep is your desk exactly? I'm thinking of getting a 42" C3 or C4 for my desk which is about 21" deep and I was wondering if it would be too close even if I push it all the way back to the wall.
The farther away your display (i.e. the higher the view distance) the lower your Display FoV. If you value immersion you want the largest Display FoV possible. I use a 55" 4K OLED at a view distance of 18", which gives a horizontal Display FoV of 106°. The key is that the In-game FoV must be raised to match the Display FoV, at which point the image is perfect --- neither "zoomed in" nor distorted. You can mount your display on a sliding stand so that you can control the view distance --- e.g. close for gaming, and farther for OS use, or for games that don't allow the FoV to be raised high enough.
I know I'd really enjoy using an OLED and could use a monitor upgrade, but I really don't think I game enough to justify the price and eventual burn-in (which will be accelerated more than with people who game more often).
I love my Philips Evnia 34" ultrawide! It's a QD-OLED and perfect for my needs. HDR looks amazing on it, not concerned about brightness as I have sensitive eyes, and the color accuracy is fantastic for productivity. I'm not sweating the burn-in risk as the monitor has pixel refresh and pixel orbiting, and I tend to use my displays on low-brightness anyway. Even the speakers are pretty decent, saving me desk space from having external computer speakers and I just use Hi-Fi headphones for when audio is important. P.S. This got me thinking, why don't smartphones have a pixel refresh function? I have an old Google Pixel 3a that has burn-in from using Google Maps often on it. It could really use a refresh.
