Can Grim Patron Beat New Hearthstone Decks w/ Reynad 

Big same

Same it just hurt my eyes

Came here to commiserate. Couldn’t understand how he didn’t see it.

It destroyed mine in hindsight

@@Rarran this one of those plays thatll haunt you before closing your eyes at night, If you need to talk about it were here.

My guess is that he's on vacation. HIs pc has a 4:3 screen ratio, he had latency on his plays, the room behind him is different and the fan turning even in april probably means he's somewhere hotter than he's used to. Also the puffy eyes could be jetlag too

he's always a lil blinky in these, bro needs some eyedrops

Also he smokes a lot of Pot

@@optimizedlaziness6183 actual NYPD detective in the comments

@@optimizedlaziness6183 yeah he's in Thailand

Could not agree more. Nowadays aggro decks generate so much value and card draw, you just can't hope to last against them

Glad Marvel Snap came out 🤞🤞

It’s not just standard. Arena is a shit show now.

Yep, discover originally was something from a very limited pool, and usually you lost bunch of tempo when playing it... but then they decided fuck it, discover is a free mechanic, it rewards tempo plays and allows you to find answers and more tempo... like wtf? ~A good example is the aggro paladin right now(I used it to get legend this month, sorry) it's a aggro deck, that later has the Countess that rewards you by playing strong tempo, and lending the last breath you need to finish your opponent, sometimes you miss, but usually you win, the only deck that realistic can survive after Countess is Blood DK but it's another super strong deck....

@@Cuestrupaster You’re right. Discovery is such a double edged sword. It adds more variety to games and prevents matches from getting too stale… on the other hand, it gives players so much power and makes it damn near impossible to play around stuff. And they really went balls to the wall with the mechanic. You use to get a 2/2 for three mana for discovery. Now you get a 2/4 with a 2 mana discount on the spell discovered.

Reynad's statement at the start of the video about patron warrior having a 45% win rate in it's time is spot on. When you built your patron warrior deck you had to learn by losing what you had to do to win, simply because you had to learn what to play around and how to approach matches. Personally I didn't win a match as warrior for about 2 weeks while learning patron warrior. Decks now don't care what the opponent is doing they play their gameplan they win, because "hurr durr power crept overpowered cards that do literally everything." C'mon a 2 mana pump and draw? that costed at least 3 mana at the start of Hearthstone. Card generation is also nuts to a classic player, 50% of the cards you play in modern decks didn't start in your deck.

@@NicholasBalanta Too be fair I want to say that a lot of that is just death knight. Death knight is since its release just insane value, do everything, discover the best cards in the game, win the game. I think the current druid archetype is something you can play around and can know what you play against. I feel like the current new cards are shifting in a good direction and if there will ever be a meta again, where I will enjoy watching Esport for the game, it will prob be, when cards like the songs are good enough, for the meta game.

@@gonoroad2160 you mean the current druid archetype of having 15 mana crystals turn 5?

@@gonoroad2160 yeah druid is probably one of the least rng classes in standard right now, they don't generate anything and they draw their entire deck every game mostly so they can have a consistent game plan. Compared to other classes who lack draw and tutor, they have to rely on random wincons for example. Druid is cool, feels like playing a different card game where you actually play an entire deck out every match.

​@@benjaminhurtado5119 Guff isn't in Standard anymore

Idk why but my phone made "Always happy to see rarran on Reynad's channel" out of this

He is basically the side character that people like more

Yeah old HS card design with modern HS attention and QoL would be great.

I remember when I played in Reynad's time, bad cards got complained a lot. Like Purify. People don't like playing bad cards. Money talks and they shifted away. 2 mana Fiery War Axe will probably still see play today, see how it dominated Frost DK perfect opener? It is that good, in an era with chillwind yeti being relevant. People like playing cards like that. Blizzard basically slowly ramp every card to be that level. We just have to admit that the decks we were playing were just arena level inconsistent and un-synergistic decks.

@@zhuzhong74 bad cards were complained about when they were given to classes that were bad Priest was the weakest it had ever been when they printed purify, meanwhile Shaman got shit like 4 mana 7/7

@@spencerweiss6337 ahhh, the good old days when we thought a '4 mana overload 2' card was insane. wtf happened

@@clintshidwood4511 great question haha I was horrified to learn that a 4 mana lifesteal pyroblast with permanent damage that also has a 5/5 body exists and I only stopped playing after Descent of Dragons 6 mana is not enough. That card needs to be deleted from existence

Watched two of the matches and headed down to the comments for this timestamp. The answer to the video title is no, and Reynad spells out why here

Very true, modern HS is like modern retail wow, every class just has all the things and no one class feels as unique as what it once was

Yeah the end was so funny. Classic reynad rage he should react to more new cards. They're all so broken.

He had Reynad play patron because it’s a high skill deck he’s used to Rarran playing it vs reynad playing with decks he has never tried doesn’t do anything to show whether it can hold up in current hearthstone

I dropped hs in 2021. Libram paladin and specifically the 2 mana buff spell that aways get back to the hand just granted to paladin a deck without bad matchups. all decks run silent spells but it just wasnt enough since all classes have ways to discover cards out of their deck.

Find that hard to believe

my god the amount of misplays, even ignoring the first game. Not hellfiring first at 6:10 and missing 8 damage with the giant, but I guess whatever, we just draw the hellfire number 2. Love you mr Rarran, but git gud nerd

I deserve the criticism, to be fair, this was recorded way past my bed time lol

Remember, anything perceived as a misplay was actually done on purpose for content. Rarran obviously knows exactly what he's doing. The biggest brain 5 year old ever playing hearthstone.

I know you gotta sandbag from time to time to get Reynoodle, the Card Wizard Extraordinaire, to keep coming back, we all understand

I think he would be a monster if he took new hearthstone seriously.

@@ZeRoUnload hearthstone is so unbalanced nowadays that nobody can take it seriously. Rarran beats all adventures on heroic with just 3 meta decks, where previously you needed to actually think and make a new deck for every boss

This was the way to go.

@@tmdiz4579 no it isn’t? The point of the video is seeing if an old deck can hold up, otherwise it’s a wild video and reynad will be playing with cards he doesn’t know, doesn’t want to pay for, and a list he hasn’t practised

Almost as if that is the point, seeing if an old deck can hold up and showing the powercreep Adding new cards both defeats the point of the video, and the point of reynad being the one to play it. It’d be a new list he hasn’t practised with new cards he doesn’t know or want to buy If reynad won every single game I wonder if you’d complain about the concept of the video

@@johnhemsley3790 You'd have to be on drugs to think Patron has even a slight chance against anything in the past few years

bro if you think hearthstone takes very much skill your funny. 90% of decks you just play the cards you get and regardless of matchup you mulligan for the same 5 cards the only thing that changes the higher rank you go is the powerlevel of decks

@@chadgamer6942 Yea and he still misplays that so i guess there is some skill issue huh.

​@@chadgamer6942 it doesnt take skill to be good but it does take mad skills to be rarran level bad

It's Legend Ranked Rarran to you!

@@dabbingtt5857 usually whoever misplays ends up winning anyways so its actually secretly big brain

You think so?

He looks really annoyed with how Hearthstone has turned out and how classes don't seem to really have their own separate identity now and every class can pretty much doing everything without any real downside. I don't blame him. You can especially tell he hated that last game with the Death Knight.

@@terrancesilvermistbenjamin9864 I don't disagree with him on that point. You could tell how annoyed he was on that last game.

@@terrancesilvermistbenjamin9864 I mean if you watched any old reynad you'd know he's not really having a bad time. More just some good natured gamer rage

Him being salty and upset is basically his brand. Actually 95% of all HS creators freak out at RNG nonsense or OP shit like it the first time they have played the game. Like I literally stopped reacting to nonsense in the game cause it happens every game lol. If I walk up to you and use actual magic IRL, probably freak out. The 1000th time though you probably would not bat an eye. However, for whatever reason that brand still gets clicks. Reynad back when he played would get so mad sometimes it had to be forced cause no reasonable person would behave that way over a digital card game with no stakes. In a tourney setting with money on the line? Sure I be upset if RNG and high rolls screwed me, but thats a tourney. I literally know very few HS creators that do not make a big show in some form over HS being HS. Reynads skill and knowledge of the game and card games in general are impressive, but fake salt gets old, but I must be in a minority.

wouldve been interesting to see it updated for each format, like see how it couldve evolved over the years

next time ill tell blizzard to not draw it for me lol

@@Rarran Sounds like a plan, still love ur content tho man

Lol I thought I was missing something since even reynad didn't seem to catch that