Can Hornby Trains Run On Extremely Tight Curves?

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A demonstration of how amazing some model trains can be - who could have guessed that these engines could handle such tight curves?
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0:00 Introduction
1:56 1st Radius
2:43 Radius Zero
3:51 Minus1st Radius
5:12 Minus 2nd Radius
7:12 Minus 3rd Radius
10:53 Conclusion

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@barryosullivan5255 3 года назад

Dockyard modellers: You had my curiosity, now you have my attention

@EndlessFilmLimited 3 года назад

Never a truer statement spoken.

@christopherpeter978 3 года назад

True

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha!! I'd love to make one of those now!! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@talesfromsodor 3 года назад

Is that a Django Unchained quote? XD

@FranklinAC227 3 года назад

It's "you have my curiosity now you have to keep my attention"

@pietersnackaert 3 года назад

Next episode: Sam discovers micro layouts and makes one.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Ooh that sounds awesome - I guess I could now!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@mikeking2539 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains "T" gauge check it out.

@seankash8546 3 года назад

Micro layouts can be done in any gauge! I've been successful running some 2-6-2's over curves like these.

@Wreckedftfoxy 3 года назад

lol nah he figures out model railways in scrap mechanic

@SodorBrony 3 года назад

Smokey Joe deserves an award. The “Curve Master”!

@An_Economist_Plays 3 года назад

It is a mountain pony.

@MDRLCsandTrains 3 года назад

True!

@ayeshafenner7180 3 года назад

Joe only made it around because he's very small

@smokeyjoesrailroad 3 года назад

Thank you lol

@BMMEC6000 3 года назад

SPOILERS!!!

@merlinandmurdoch7837 3 года назад

Her: “I bet he’s thinking of another female” Him: “what’s the lowest radius Smokey joe can handle?

@azuma7628 3 года назад

They do say steam engines are female.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha!! xD

@welshdave5263 3 года назад

If only images could be posted in RU-vid comments, I would make that meme.

@nigelericogden3200 3 года назад

Indeed !!

@welshdave5263 3 года назад

So, this is the translation...

@CrumpledSandwich 3 года назад

I made a roundy round layout with 9” curves after being inspired by budget model railways

@andrewjames1190 3 года назад

I am building one right now. Just awaiting some parts which will be here for the weekend.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

That sounds awesome Jordan - what do you run on it?! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@LordPhobos6502 3 года назад

Similar story - 230mm curves for my model trams. Some locos will still make that curve too :p I used a laser-cut stencil to make the curves on soldered PCB sleepers, with room gor transition curves... I'm so happy with the trackwork :)

@CrumpledSandwich 3 года назад

@@LordPhobos6502 I had a wooden track setter laser cut for me which sits between the flexi track rails. I had two made actually with the correct spacing for Hornby tracks so the ends of the curves met the straights and points correctly. you can run old Hornby bo bos on the curves and I'm currently shortening a bubble car.

@Steamerthesteamtrain 3 года назад

Usually a loco with wheels closer to each other can handle tight curves, the drawback to a shorter wheelbase is hunting oscillation happens more on it vs a longer wheelbase. Also you should've done the minimum radius for coupling since some yards can have engines like the Pecketts and SECR P class and little space.

@davebell4917 3 года назад

Yards also have the problem of the points. I suppose somebody making their own could try to build a shorter radius version. I remember seeing very old articles about that, and I think you would need some purpose-made jigs to bend the rail, Also, the materials would matter, but steel. nickel silver, or brass? Would the bent rail need annealing? On real railways they use gauge widening on tight curves. Partly it reduces the side wear on rails and flanges. Because of the wheel profile, there's a slight taper, it can also affect wheel slip, but I look at the math on that in the research papers I found, and I get a headache.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Yeah that's right, thanks a lot for the info! I will have to try this some time with 0-6-0s! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@RichardKuivila1947 2 месяца назад

x-8-x locos have too many flanges on all of those drivers. Front pair and back pair ONLY, works.

@pjstar4561 3 года назад

Sam: puts modern music in his video Indy: Falls off his chair in utter disbelief...

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha I know right - what's going on!?? :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@smashrc8481 3 года назад

Anyone else hoping the track would come loose and what ever was on it to go flying? ...No just me

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha it did cross my mind... I was wearing goggles after -2nd radius! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@seagraverailwaysandmodels2408 3 года назад

The guys over at Budget Model Railways have done some excellent tight radius layouts for 0-4-0s - but don’t think even they went this tight!

@IronHorseRailways 3 года назад

They got an old deltic to go Around 0 Radius too!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Yeah I heard about those - I'll have to check that out! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Gothix1066 3 года назад

7:44 Gee whiz! That looks like Minecraft style track now lol.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha I know!! Maybe I could build a minecraft layout?! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Kuriboh1008 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains My favourite Minecraft minecart is Smokey Joe

@Ezz652 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains YES PLEASE DO THAT

@thecaledonian4 3 года назад

This is the answer to my prayers! I’ve seen a channel called Budget Model Railways do an 18-inch-wide loop layout so about 16” for a full 180 degree turn. The childlike joy you show when Smokey makes it round that -2nd curve is hilarious. More experimental videos please! - The Caledonian

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha thanks so much - really glad you liked it! I'll do more like this soon hopefully!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@thechair371 3 года назад

-3rd rails: You can't beat me. Sam: I know, but he can. *Smokey Joe has joined the battle*

@PieAndChips 3 года назад

I choose Pikachu

@GaryNumeroUno 3 года назад

Class 40 respectfully withdraws from the competition!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha I know right!! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@stephania6322 2 года назад

Kijoikkk

@stephania6322 2 года назад

@@SamsTrains jijkijkij

@scottlewis775 3 года назад

Sam’s Trains: uploads a new experiment video. Me: How could he have known I needed to relax after a stressful week at uni? Thanks for being here when we need you Sam.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha thanks Scott, that's my pleasure mate - hope life is good at Uni! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@mytinplaterailway 3 года назад

I wonder if it might be interesting to see how larger loco's would get on with the original curve? Tender loco's, carriages, wagons etc. Could a small layout cater for an A4? Just a thought.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Yeah that is the big question - I might do this again some time!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@alan_mythicalgnome Год назад

I remember when I was 6 years old, my Dad made my layout with 'Play Craft' curves which I think came from a clockwork trainset.They were a lot tighter than 1st radius curves. My good old faithful, Triang, bright yellow 0-4-0T 'Connie' loco was more than happy to go round them. At aged 6, it regularly went round them virtually at the speed of light. This loco was was played to death. I loved it. *(Just been on Google. Playcraft track was designed for French HO scale in the 1960s)

@pugwash1 3 года назад

Maybe you should use this for future reviews to show the limit a train could turn Before either derailing or flopping off the track

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Great idea!! If I had the time and space, that'd be an awesome feature to add! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@cmdrbudman1ao580 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains Just use the same piece of wood with all the curves already attached. Could even screw down one of those Mehano controllers and wire them all up.

@williamcarrington61 5 месяцев назад

@@SamsTrainsMakes me think about the Port of London Authority system around the Silvertown area . Even Tate & Lyle had a connection to British Railways. However we won't linger on the failed attempt to run bulk sugar tankers disaster. The Train of Tankers was "Lost", a shunting error !

@creepertwins7066 3 года назад

When you did 0 radius Me: let me guess you’re going to go into negative radius numbers *goes into negative numbers* Me: knew it

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha you called it!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@TheMemeTankEngine 3 года назад

@@___1205 can u stop plplease

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 года назад

Great video Sam. I've seen others make incredible micro layouts using curves similar to this but you really pushed it to the limit! I've always wanted to have a go at a minimum circuit layout, maybe I'll have to try it out now! Thanks for sharing with us 😃

@andrewjames1190 3 года назад

I think you're approach with modular sections would combine really well with micro curves used offscreen like a fiddle yard.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 года назад

@@andrewjames1190 Thanks Andrew, that's not a bad idea! I may have to implement that some day 👍

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot mate, yeah I've heard about those too - I'd love to build one myself now!! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@johntunicliffe9019 2 года назад

You hit the nail on the head Sam. Many people don't have space for 3rd or 4th radii. So 1st and 0 radius are a God send. Brilliant experiment. Thanks Sam.

@SilverDragonTV 3 года назад

Smokey Joe is the "Onion Bubs" of model trains. You can't not love him. Truly a perfect specimen.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha you're right, haha!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@LIMowersAndMore 3 года назад

I can hear the flanges screaming, “ouch”.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha yeah... it was a bit painful at the end there! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@photographerjamie 3 года назад

Smokey Joe is the little engine that could! What a little legend! Wonder if Hornby is watching..

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

I know right!! There's nothing he can't do?!? ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@photographerjamie 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains Not a problem, very entertaining ^^

@bennickss Год назад

Now I want to build an OO gauge wild mouse coaster using the -3rd radius curves

@EthansTrains 3 года назад

Budget Model Railways has a layout that has ridiculously tight curves, you should see it! I like these experimental videos! :)

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Ooh awesome - I will look into that! Thanks mate, glad you like them! :D Cheers, Sam :)

@OlivierGabin 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains They made 228mm/9in radius curves, and it works fine. And another with 7 1/2 in/190mm curve radius, here is the video : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pN1qLwyn_bg.html

@joeyfletchengines 3 года назад

Can you try this with the larger locos I see my larger diesel locos get round first radius bends and I'm just curious how much they can take

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Great idea Joey - I reckon they could take at least radius 0, maybe less?? :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@stanley3647 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains Try to leave all curves at board for future testing... maybe nail curve track to board - make it more rigid. Try with wagons maybe as well? Will be interesting how tight it can be for limited room ;)

@TrainosaurusMC 3 года назад

Sam has posted another great video :)

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much!! :D

@MisterSprocket16 3 года назад

Greetings from America! I liked this experiment quite a lot, it reminded me of my grandfather's stories of his old workplace in St. Louis Missouri. He worked at a boiler fabrication plant and they had rail lines running inside the building to help transport their work. Many of the curves were so tight that only a little two axle loco would run on them and the freight cars (wagons you call them) would squeal as they went around the curves. Good memories, keep up the good work, I'm a huge fan of British steam locos. Cheers!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Greeting Allen, really glad you enjoyed the experiment! That sounds fascinating - I bet he had some real tales to tell! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@closeyamy 3 года назад

Fun experiment, crazy that they could go round that tiny last curve!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks Chloe - yeah I was really impressed with that! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@TheSaint491 3 года назад

1:17 sam, being the youngest middle aged school teacher ever

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha!! xD

@PieAndChips 3 года назад

Next time on Sam's Trains, Sam tests Hornby's ability to defy gravity by nailing the track to the ceiling

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha we'll see about that!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@OlivierGabin 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains Further step affter this one : can we do model railroading in low Earth orbit. Featuring Sam in the ISS.

@PieAndChips 3 года назад

@@OlivierGabin looooooooool

@lfewell2161 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains Looking forward to this, can be done as Jennifer kirk has done this with a locomotive, I'm sure you're more than capable of making it work with a train.

@CymruJedi 3 года назад

This was actually a fantastic idea for a video. Great content mate!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much, really glad you liked it mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@GearHeadedHamster 3 года назад

The mathematics of track geometry is absolutely fascinating. Other experiments to try is running 0-4-0's with long wheel bases. running 0-6-0's. bogied locos. Or various rolling stock and watching how the cuppers interact. there's just so much to try.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Yeah it is actually - it's amazing that all of these models just work when they're released!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@GearHeadedHamster 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains No problem. Have fun with your new urban trolley layout ;)

@KieranMcGovern7530 3 года назад

Sam was barely able to handy the shear size if his wood......

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha I know right!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@alegorailwaymodeller3115 3 года назад

I made a layout for my brother and it's got 20 inches as a diameter and we can run triang 0,6,0 engines with no flanges on the middle set ok

@cheesekay7314 3 года назад

Jesus

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Wow, that sounds awesome - yeah the blind axles will definitely make a big difference there! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@user-uo6yp7rw5b 3 года назад

Thank you very much, Sam! Your experiments are so fascinating!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

It's a pleasure mate, glad you enjoy them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@DillonCatterson 3 года назад

Almost 100k Sam you deserve it so much!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much mate, that's really kind of you! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@MistaMatthews 3 года назад

Hi Sam, great video! This is something I have been wondering about! Any chance you could do a continuation and test what kind of loco's can make 1st radius curves despite manufacturer recommendation such as some larger steam loco's, dmu's/emu's?

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot mate - yeah great idea, that would be a great one to try! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@dasmann3904 3 года назад

My “Strathyre station” layout has a curve that I would call -2nd radius curve. The curve goes round a board just over 30cm wide. Another thing, I thought that you should create a bloopers series!-Das Mann

@welshdave5263 3 года назад

Either a bloops video compilation, or a just a couple of them in the RU-vid shorts format.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Blimey, that is pretty tight - what sort of engines do you run on that?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@louisbuscarino7330 3 года назад

Sam awesome informative video. I like videos that help with this hobby. Keep them coming .

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot Louis, really glad to hear that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@lukehughes6094 3 года назад

Great video sam. Amazing choice of locomotive. Can not wait to see more experiments with different classes of locomotive.

@stepney_studios 3 года назад

Yep

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much Luke - more experiments coming up soon! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@nickdaniels4899 3 года назад

If Hornby ever decide to go down the Narrow gauge modeling route, they should take tips from your good self. :)

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha thank you - I'm sure there's not much they could learn from me though! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@masterofsouthern5427 3 года назад

Well N gauge is now useless for more now 😂 great video Sam🙂

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha exactly!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@j0nn032 8 месяцев назад

This is a late comment but I do want to share this: I tested this theory on a bunch of trains and quite shockingly my Hornby P2 Cock O’ The North could easily handle curves between radius 0 and 1st radius. Any tighter than the curve I tested it on made it derail due to its massive wheel base. My Flying Scotsman however handled up to radius 0.

@thestandardfour0699 3 года назад

Yes! Another Experiment! This has made my day, thanks Sam. Nearly and 100K Subs!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate the kind support too mate, Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@markfiddament9383 3 года назад

Next project - ghost train layout...

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Ooh that sounds spooky Mark!! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@rustyduncan3664 3 года назад

Next video: Can a model train climb a wall

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha!! Now there's a question!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@kentlangham5811 3 года назад

Back in the 1980's there was a train set that would do just that. I believe it was made by Tyco. You would build most of the layout on the level but 1/2 half of an oval would extend vertically off of the table. It was advertised going up a wall to support the force exerted by the train. A friend of mine had one and I remember it working fairly well but the train had to be run at near full throttle. If you find one or remanufacture one I would love to see the video.

@jackmason7823 3 года назад

He's kind of already done this with his sprocket loco 😂

@JohnPW22 3 года назад

Amazing! Definitely now want to see some tests with larger engines!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much John, I might do that in the future! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@PhillipBrodginski 3 года назад

This is exactly what these small wheelbase locomotives were designed for. Some dock yards had seriously tight curves, originally designed for the likes of horses. Usually they'd just have a narrow gauge line in that case, but some places wanted to just offload or load ships directly from the regular rolling stock.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks Philip - I'd love to see some curves like this in real life!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@stantheshagster1484 3 года назад

I'm going to try this whith my Smokey joe

@vincentmusic09 3 года назад

Im going to try this with a garrat

@EthansTrains 3 года назад

@@vincentmusic09 lol XD

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Awesome! haha good luck with the Garratt! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@solidsnake4595 3 года назад

smokey Joe: Senpai did i do good? SamsTrains: better than i had hoped i was expecting you to derail on less of a curve!

@smokeyjoesrailroad 3 года назад

What lol

@solidsnake4595 3 года назад

@@smokeyjoesrailroad i have lockdown syndrome i have been given the cure but its gunna take a while before the effects kick in i bet XD

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha!! I feel exactly the same!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@bluskidu 3 года назад

I went to Check online because it’s my birthday, and I find this! Great video Sam hope you do more in the future! 🚂😄

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha awesome!! Happy birthday my friend!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@bluskidu 3 года назад

Thank you Sam! 😃

@markgarside165 3 года назад

Really enjoyed that Sam. Your enthusiasm makes it. Never connected model trains with getting wood before but there you go. First time for everything :))))))

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much Mark - haha!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Sam_Dabboi 3 года назад

Run a decently big tender engine on those rails for fun please

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha good idea - I think it'd end badly though! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@PHsRailwayVideos 3 года назад

I learned something new today too - that people say 'small things amuse small minds.'

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha, whatever floats your boat!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@cadenchristiansen3553 3 года назад

sam i love your videos i am been very sad and depressed as of resent and your videos keep me going and keep me from hurting myself thank you sam

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Hey Caden, sorry to hear you're not doing too well mate, glad the videos are helping a bit though. Chin up my friend! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@robmasterman 3 года назад

What a wonderful experiment Sam, confirms why the real size locos were built to operate on tight curves....and how well these small locos have been made....Bob

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot Bob - yeah absolutely - I'm amazed by this really!! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@richardclowes6123 2 года назад

I'm hugely glad I came across this video as I am setting up my track to run my Hogwarts Express (4-6-0) on 1st radius curves as it is the only way to use my shed space. So far it has run on my test layout okay but I have heard other railway video presenters saying that if you use a tighter curve than what is recommended that you will burn out the motor and cause other damages to boot ! As I consider you as the 'expert on testing trains' I would seriously appreciate your honest opinion. All your videos have been so worth watching as I learn so much from them. Thank you, Rick the Bulldog from Digon Alley Station.

@NotAnAmerican 6 месяцев назад

Smokey goes round my christmas tree in a 20cm radius track. great experiment, looking forward to building my layout dockyard with this small formfactor

@leighwilsonartist 3 года назад

Very cool Sam, just started laying track and was worried that second radius was going to be too tight, this blows my theory out of the water.😀

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha thanks Leigh - I think you should be fine with 2nd, haha! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@TheDiscobeef 3 года назад

Thanks for showing the stages. I've been hoping to make a roundy-round shelf layout for my pecket and this gives me confidence I can get there

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

It's a pleasure Stuart - sounds great, good luck with it!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@GelatoTaco 2 года назад

Just started getting into the hobby in the past 2 weeks or so, and as a man who greatly enjoys slightly scuffed DIY kinda stuff, these tighter turns are right up my alley. This actually massively helps me in terms of just how compact I can make a small railyard I have planned. Hopefully I can snag a nice used model as my first to use as a shunter.

@SamsTrains 2 года назад

Fantastic! Good luck! Just remember not to make the curves too tight, as it can stress the wheel flanges. Also take couplings into account when you're designing curves - typical NEM couplings can usually only handle wider couplings! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@highbrookendmodelrailway 3 года назад

Very interesting video once again, nice to know that Hornby's little engines are so capable. I can relate to 7:26, sometimes I just lose it too when doing something as ridiculous as this! You can't help yourself! 🤣

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks mate - yes it was fun to learn how capable these are! haha yep, can't be helped! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@olivertaylor4034 3 года назад

I like the music you used, adds a clean, modern touch to the video!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much - glad you liked it Oliver! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@sam-yo9gd 3 года назад

Hello Sam, another interesting experiment, I like these

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot Sam, glad to hear that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@rambaral340 2 года назад

i'm experimenting with 19 centimeter curves, so far they can handle all my 0-4-0s and 0-6-0s. really want to test a tender engine soon

@LauriraYT 3 года назад

Reminds me of a very old lego train set I have which uses a few metal rods between the tracks. The contacts on the train were so worn that it would struggle to drive even on straight track, though. Good times.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha everyone's been saying that actually!! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@JohnSmithShields 3 года назад

That shot of first radius at the end now looks like a sweeping curve rather than a sharp corner.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha I know!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@thomasthetankenginerapgod7625 2 года назад

Just subbed! You have a great channel!

@paulcarroll7767 3 года назад

Great video Sam good to see something a bit different and well done :)

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot Paul, glad you liked this for a change! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@paulcarroll7767 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains your welcome :) and yeah it was good

@Callumrileyw4 3 года назад

“There will be no silliness here today!” Also him: SMOKEY JOE Anyway have a nice day! -3801 productions :D

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha!! Thanks mate, glad you liked this one! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@stefanwosinsky1935 3 года назад

Phew... for a second i was afraid the loco’s on the shelf above the staircase we’re gonna take a dive, but luckily you managed to squeeze through... nice test, i have some fleischmanns (1/87) that’ll accept a 357mm curve, although i have 1 streamlined class 03 that refuses to do it.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha I'm used to them now, always got to be careful, lol! Ooh that sounds interesting! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@skrixul954 3 года назад

Sam: The tracks are going to fail before you can make it curved enough to derail an 0-4-0 Me: challenge accepted

@KentStreet 3 года назад

Thanks for a fun video Sam

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

It's a pleasure mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@smyset1112 2 года назад

Bachmann Edward with the front truck taken off and missing his tender: Are You challenging Me

@tomjenssen7486 3 года назад

Good fun and quite amazing how tight the curves can be. I had to make some really tight curves for my Christmas village track. The 0-4-0 makes the curves but I had to cut the buffers off the trucks and remove the hook from the couplers (replacing with a small loop of wire). I just didn't have the space to make the baseboard any deeper...but it works :) And don't even get me started on the TV set layout. I managed to squeeze 19ft of N gauge track inside an old TV set....lol. All the best mate :) Tom

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot Tom - yeah that's the issue isn't it? Trying to couple something! At least I know what to do if I try this again - thanks mate! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@jeeromonster 3 года назад

Fantastic and entertaining video!!!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much Gary! :D

@jeeromonster 3 года назад

@@SamsTrains thoroughly enjoyed it bud. I was wanting to build a small layout for the base of my Xmas tree using flex track for my Coca Cola train set and you have shown me what is possible. I am going to make a start on it soon.

@Minitrucker231 3 года назад

"This is all completely innocent!" Mate I just about lost it at that lol. Although the innuendo didn't help, I will admit, my mind went into the gutter, at full steam and derailed around a curve!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha guttermind!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@rinnmhor 3 года назад

For years Jouef made a 12inch radius (smaller than hornby first radius), modellers often used it for tram lines/dock layouts. If you only have room for first radius it's handy if you get some as it's set track that allows you to add in an inner line on a first radius layout - almost everything that was made in margate to go around a first radius will also go around it without any problem. I used it on my layout before to achieve a fifth inner line, the outer 4 being standard hornby 1st-4th radius.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

I never knew about this Christian, thanks for sharing! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@medwaymodelrailway7129 3 года назад

Great layout looking good.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks very much Dave! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@medwaymodelrailway7129 3 года назад

Thanks sam.l have subscribe to your channel@@SamsTrains

@andrewknights1304 3 года назад

Hi Sam. Great fun. I did, some years back, have an exhibition layout "Yarmouth Quay" based on the Great Yarmouth Tramway. It was 2ft by 4ft with 8ins radius curve, inset into the road. Admittedly the track was all hand laid and there was some(?) gauge widening! But a Mainline 03 could do it with all six wheels flanged. Buffer lock? Yes hand knitted wire couplers, fully automatic, ex office paper clips provided the wire. The layout did many shows over five years before being sold on. Even went to the Great Yarmouth show once....

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks very much Andrew, that sounds fantastic - 8 inch curves must have been very extreme, great to hear it turned out well though!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@noahstrainstuff 3 года назад

Excited to see this.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Hope you enjoy it!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@stevenallan5822 3 года назад

Always thinking ahead of the curve and the the flexi track is screaming 'no, don't do it, I can't take it, what are you doing Sam?'

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha absolutely... that track was under some serious stress at the end there! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@ethanruckert3871 3 года назад

I love these style videos

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much Ethan!! :D

@harryprince5472 3 года назад

Was abit late the last video , Id like to see how tight they can really go keep up the good videos Sam

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

No problem Harry - you're early to this one - hope you enjoy it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@derrickhale3125 2 месяца назад

When I was a lad Traing trains ran on 13 1/2" raduiss curves. Hornby Dublo on 15". The sharpest curve on any standard gauge line in the UK was Gotham Curve on the Cromford and High Peak Railway at 55 yds (2 1/2 chains). The same railway also had the steepest adhesion worked incline - Hopton Incline - at 1in 14. Only certain 0-6-0 locomotives could negotiate Gotham Curve and the minimum radius curve stated for most mainline locomotives was 5 chains. There would have been sharper curves in some industrial settings. Food for thought - Gotham Curve works out at 660mm radius in 4mm to the foot scale. 5 chains and wider 1320mm and more.

@TheWoodlandhoBo 3 года назад

This is really helpful as I’ve got room for an 8x2 layout 👍🏻

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Fantastic Tim - all the best with that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@TheSharkKing45 3 года назад

1) I think that you might want to let Hornby know of your discovery , Sam... as this is genuinely impressive. Perhaps 0 Radius and -1 Radius could be the new minimum for UK HO/00 gauge layouts! 2) Perhaps this test could be redone with 0-6-0 tank and tender engines , with the 0 Radius and -1 Radius curves?

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks mate - it would be awesome to see Hornby release say an industrial train set with ultra tight curves - could open up a new market there! Great idea - I should really have tried other engines on it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@nigelericogden3200 3 года назад

Exactly right Sam ... I have the second radius curves ... but I can never fix them to a baseboard due to lack of space ... definitely food for thought .... Crazy !!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks Nigel - yeah that's it, worth remembering!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@yoniazrad429 3 года назад

That was incredible!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much!! :D

@icyfox2561 3 года назад

This is a video that has helped me design new tracks

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much - that's good to hear!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@cameronmcilroy8261 3 года назад

What an experiment, I never thought that it would have worked this well

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks mate, haha me neither!! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@danhudson4614 3 года назад

Totally trying this, not to the extreme but for a smaller layout this is genius!.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha sounds good Dan - all the best with it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@modelrailpreservation 3 года назад

In the 1940s Varney, an early manufacturer of HO scale models here in the USA, had a demo of their small 0-4-0T dockside tank running on a circle of track where the inside "Rail" was actually a silver dollar, which is an inch and a half around. Figure HO scale track is 5/8" gauge, and you got a circle of track roughly three inches in diameter. THe purpose was to show off just what this little locomotive could do. I also remember something about a similar locomotive back on a circle of track built around the brim of a fedora hat. Again, more for fun and to prove it could be done in the first place.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks a lot for sharing Steve - that sounds crazy, I would have loved to see that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@zachjagodzinski4435 3 года назад

I'm from America and I have Atlas flex track. This was a very interesting video Sam, I learned a lot about Hornby trains and obviously what radius HO can take!!!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing Zach, glad to hear that mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@m_spine-sol1559 3 года назад

This video made my day

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

haha thanks so much!! :D

@RiliansMusic 3 года назад

This was a great video Sam I liked the reappearance of the older smokey Joe. Can't wait for more videos.-Rilian.

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks so much Rillian - hope you like the next vids! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Western-Ranger. 2 года назад

Great experiment Sam

@MrJoeyWheeler 3 года назад

That was impressive, if not entirely unpredictable! After all, short wheelbase locos like the Peckett would typically be used in areas with really tight bends, like dockyards. Places where the curves could be so tight only wagons would normally be able to handle it. I recently learned some towns had setups allowing locomotives to pull wagons onto wagon turntables from a 90 degree angle!

@SamsTrains 3 года назад

Thanks Damian - that's pretty interesting - I wonder what the tightest real life curve they ever handled was like? Thanks for watching, Sam :)