Experimental Two-Tender Schools Class | Building The Ultimate Hornby Steam Loco 

haha I've never thought of that - but yes, the Garratt must be a tank engine! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

The garratt has got a tender in fact if you think about it it has 2 one each end one for coal one for water

Actually the Garratt may have powered tenders since driving wheels are under the fuel storage on the engine. If you have seen photos of the Erie Triplex locomotive, you'll know what I mean.

Emilio I. Valdez yeh I get what you mean just whoever has the point of saying that the garratt doesn’t have a tender is wrong as such

@@cheyvengeance5432 Alright then.

I like ya foment g *u scream*

haha!! It did feel like that! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha me too actually - maybe some day?! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

He's already done a couple of trains with army tanks on them, does that count?

Yep, that's basically the plan! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

lol :)

haha!! I'm sure I did! xD

@@SamsTrains Sorry Sam, it's just a stupid idea : / Good idea on paper maybe but not a good idea at all.. it's something I did when I was much younger. Good attempt but still a nice video, hope you're staying safe :)

You’ve heard of the bendy bus now get ready for the bendy steam loco

More like he invented a Tender-Slug. Which is something I've never seen before.

Union Pacific has nothing on this guy!

Thank you! haha absolutely - I'm sure he was! ;D

haha I know - best of both worlds! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Yes. Yes it does! ;D

Sorry, did you say bullman? YES OF COURSE!

bullman now carrys 9 tenders and he is going to be racing on the sams trains circuit

TheBananaVanMan Jordan Y E S

*confused nosies*THE WHAT YOU SAY

haha!! ;D

Thanks very much mate - haha yeah everyone's been saying that, lol! ;D I think I will keep it like this, for sure! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@@SamsTrains put 2 dcc decoders in it and use the speed tables to speed match them

haha thanks so much, that's really kind of you! :D Cheers, Sam :)

Yeah it's a similar thing, lol! Ahh good luck with your project! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Exactly!! :D

@@SamsTrains is it possible to do this with the Flying Scotsman?

@@SamsTrains the flying Scotsman with 4 tenders lol

Thanks for the tips, good point on the coaches! I used the same drawbar fittings as original, so the heights should have been the same! Current draw would be interesting to measure! The wiring is pretty simple for any formation - each unit had both wires commoned together, so I could couple them in any order. 3 9Fs would be epic - I'd love that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks Peter, I like both of those ideas - I'll have to look into those! :D Cheers, Sam :)

Thanks a lot mate! Yeah that's the next job - I'm sure I'll manage it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Sam'sTrains fit a couple of decoders and speed match the motors

Viviane von Scharnhorst only the outer ones are driven by the motor, presumably?

It is! Only the outer wheels are driven, and the middle ones no longer fit after the CD motor conversion! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

That's an interesting thought! I'd probably opt for a roller-coaster type arrangement, it'd be safer! You'd have to be quite inventive with propulsion and switching tracks though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Yes indeed! This definitely shows the need for something like that, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha maybe!! We'll have to introduce them! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha, life is my alcohol! ;D

I’ve seen what people are like when they are drunk, and it’s much crazier than this lol!

Thanks so much!! :D

Thanks so much Louis - that's very kind of you, thanks so much for supporting the vids! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha!! Fingers crossed! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thank you!! :D

Thanks very much! I've often wondered about that - interesting about the derailing, did you ever find out why?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@@SamsTrains it was a similar problem to your Dapol class 73 you reviewed a few months back, where I'd modified the unpowered end there was insufficient clearance between the new powered bogie and the frame. Just took a bit of fettling and a spacer. I suppose I could always write "heljan" underneath it! 😂😂😂😂 cheers mate

Very cool Paul, thanks for sharing this!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

Thanks Luke, I really enjoyed doing it actually! That's very interesting - I could totally do that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks so much! I love the Schools too - they're great!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@@SamsTrains no problem mate, they are absolutely brilliant!

Thanks mate - yeah I think so too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thank you!! Yeah it was a fun learning curve! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha I thought so too! Hope you enjoy Halloween! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@@SamsTrains thanks I hpe you enjoy Halloween too

Thanks very much Tom! :D

haha thanks James! :D

Thanks so much! It is right?!? !:D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks so much mate, I'll try! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Sam'sTrains no problem at all mate 👍 - Nathan

haha thank you! :D

haha thank you! It was a bit different for sure - watch this space, more experiments coming soon! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Maybe! I'd love that!! :D

haha thank you!! xD

Yeah I've seen that quite a lot - it's pretty unusual in the UK though! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thank you! haha me too! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha that's very true - each shovel-full of coal would involve a dangerous journey! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks Alan - sounds like a nice little mod there too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@@SamsTrains Thanks Sam. In my case, it was no mod, just replacing the tyres. Made a big difference and good practice. This little real-life powerhouse needs the tyres to be 'prototypical' despite the metal body unfortunately - I've tried 'all-steel' before and it was just so sensitive to everything I decided to return to original.

No problem mate!! :D

haha thank you! That's very interesting - does that work even if they're vastly different motors?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks mate! :D

Thanks a lot JJ! It was unusually cheap - less than £50! I therefore suspect the owner may have known about the motor issues. Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thank you! :D

haha thanks Brian - it was great fun to make! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Oh wow I'd love to see that done! Wow - the 60 sounds like a real beast! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Yeah I probably could do actually - there must be something I could do with it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Yeah they were pretty modern actually! A repaint would be epic too actually! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Very cool!! I've spent many an hour doing similar myself! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha yeah - if they were properly speed matched, I could honestly recommend doing this!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha I know - that's happened many many times in my past too! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha thank you!! :D

Glad to hear that mate!! :D

Thank you!! Glad you liked the idea! :D

Thank you! :D

Thanks so much! I may do one day - it would be fun! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Wow really?! So there was something similar in real life? These things never cease to amaze! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks very much mate!! :D

They are decent locos, the Railroad ones at least! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha exactly - though dumb experiments are the only good time for traction tyres.... they still shouldn't be used on expensive models! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

It's more difficult with the tender drive, as there's not much room in the tender - worth a try though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

True! You literally could mod it to look that way couldn't you?! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Yeah!! I'd love to know what those are capable of! Hope you enjoy this year's halloween gubbins! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks so much Tim!! :D

haha thanks Chris! :D

Thanks mate! The next experiments are much crazier than this! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thank you!! I thought it was pretty cool! xD

I mean the flying Scotsman had 2 tenders

Thank you so much! :D

Thanks mate, I'll look into those for sure! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks very much mate! I don't have a specific one - just the videos on the ringfield motors, so that's what you need! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thanks a lot for sharing - wow how come it pulled so much? I wouldn't expect much without the tyres! Sounds fantastic though - I'll have to try that sometime! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@@SamsTrains ​ I guess just down to weight, its a rather heavy 1990's model and Alans old layout had very gentle curves (if I recall correctly they were about 4 foot radius as the layout was about 8 foot wide) and with nice smooth running metal wheels set on the coaches. Also equivalent of two locos. I have no idea if the tender wheels are in sync with the locos wheels, my guess is not (would this help?). I will check when I go out into the train shed, as not sure if the wheels I replaced were knurled or not. I also recall that it did slip a bit on the incline with 15. I think we added one more and it got less than half way up. I also have Hornby class 25 that I have fitted 2 motor bogies, but never loaded this up yet as my passion is steam, but I have a splattering of diesel classes that could be found in East Anglia in the 1960's. Again this is a borrowed idea, as I once met a chap who had converted all his Hornby Diesels so both bogies were powered. (he has also fitted resisters to make initial running slower and capacitors aid running over dead spots..... DCC hadn't bean heard of then and Zero 1 was history). My Hornby class 110 was a bit gutless (due to lack of weight) when I added a extra centre trailer coach to make a 4 car unit. I did try adding extra weight but without much success so I've ended up with 2 powered DMBC, as I didn't want a 2nd motor visible in the driving cab, but that's not really the same is it lol. Would be interesting to see what a 9f with loco and tender drive could do, or Flying Scotsman in 1966 to 1973 configuration with loco and twin tender drive.

Thanks mate, and happy belated birthday - hope it was great for you! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Thank you! :D

Thanks very much mate! :D

No problem! Glad you liked it! :D Cheers, Sam :)

@@SamsTrains i definitely did! I have two schools classes: railroad Cheltenham and limited edition southern Suburban with br black hailebury

You mean the drawbar? I buy sheets of brass on Ebay, you want 0.4mm - 0.6mm thick - it's great for stuff like this! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@@SamsTrains Thanks Sam, I thought you had used wire with connectors that went from the tender and loco, that joined together, but I'm probably wrong as usual...Thanks for your reply.

haha thank you - they never will - I just wanted to publicly say that their objections were firmly ignored! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Sam'sTrains haha yes. Excellent plan.

Thanks Jacob! :D

haha that'd be crazy - you'd need lots of power for that though! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

It doesn't fit any more with the CD motor unfortunately! They're largely the same, except the Railways is heavier with a better motor - so a bit stronger out of the box! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

I think they came from wish or Aliexpress - if you don't mind the long shipping time, they're dirt cheap! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

haha exactly! Thank you! :D

Thanks David - it was impressive in the end!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

Yeah it totally could! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)