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Can I Figure Out Why This Jaguar XJS V12 Quits After 15 Minutes of Running? 

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@lebojay
@lebojay Год назад
Bless this man who insists on diagnosing things before replacing parts. If only all mechanics spent their clients’ money as carefully.
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
It’s a big responsibility to spend someone else’s money. I try to take care of my customers as much as I can
@grayfool
@grayfool Год назад
This is a good example of the value of someone who really knows your car. Finding a Good specialist can make a huge difference. Very interesting.
@RickCT2000
@RickCT2000 Год назад
You have the mind of a surgeon. Great diagnosis of mystery symptoms, strong prescriptive medicine and identifying other illnesses in the patient. Well done Dr. Adam!
@philipkolpek7183
@philipkolpek7183 8 месяцев назад
As a former Jag Master Tech, 82-2002, the most common cause pre-Marelli was the ign module on top of the motor. Inside is a GM module from GM elc ign systems (looks like a flat banana with two male spade connectors at each end). The next would be the pick-up inside the dist (less than 10% of the time). Best handling is to replace both.
@CALIBRA4X4
@CALIBRA4X4 Год назад
Great bit of detective work, relevent to V12's but in principle to many others engines/cars. One to store away in brain for future reference.Thanks for great channel. A
@klwthe3rd
@klwthe3rd Год назад
I don't know if the British XjS's are different on the interiors but you mentioned that this specific car was a 1988. But it looked like it had the updated 1989 steering wheel here in the States. Did you guys get that steering wheel earlier than we did in the US?
@TheHorsebox2
@TheHorsebox2 Год назад
My V12 Series 3 runs fantastic, is on all twelve cylinders, but occasionally dies for a split second, but carries on. A guy told me it could be these sensors, so I guess mine could be in the early stages of this failure. Worth checking out. Thanks, Adam you are a tremendous help to us Jaguar fans.
@louisjones2653
@louisjones2653 Год назад
I knew what was wrong with this car in the first 30 seconds only because the exact same thing went wrong on my 1987 XJ-S about 10 years ago. Same symptoms and it turned out to be the pickup coil. Great video!
@mikedx2706
@mikedx2706 Год назад
The problem is the electronic ignition system, of course!
@louisjones2653
@louisjones2653 Год назад
@@mikedx2706 The V12 ignition system is actually quite reliable when maintained.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 Год назад
@@mikedx2706 It's not the ignition system, it's the hack mechanics who don't understand or care about it. He did mention that the set screws where lose which makes me believe a hack mechanic worked on it before and screwed it up. Pay attention and learn.
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Yes exactly! Someone was in there before who didn’t know what they were doing
@donswork3059
@donswork3059 Год назад
I am ready to move from Thailand, buy the lot next to your shop, build a small garage and live happily out of it for my remaining days. When I croak my two XJ6s are yours!
@donswork3059
@donswork3059 Год назад
Can you just imagine a Thai mechanic doing what you just did? Bwahaha!
@vorsprungdurchtech
@vorsprungdurchtech Год назад
Great job as usual, and what a beautiful example. I always loved the early XJS models.
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 21 день назад
That distributor was physically painful to witness....I am now going to show this very video to anyone who talks trash about these engines.
@WAYNEDOUBLE
@WAYNEDOUBLE 4 месяца назад
Good one Adam great work Wayne from Tasmania got 2 XJS 84-75 love them
@andrewgreenough8871
@andrewgreenough8871 Год назад
Move the ignition amplifier to the bulkhead, they overheat.
@tinkerne-round4079
@tinkerne-round4079 Год назад
Can you suggest both coolant hose kits, and fuel line kits for the v12? I have an 86 xjs V12 and an 88 Hess and Eisenhardt convertible here in the US. They both need their engine bays refreshed.
@marekbukovsky1336
@marekbukovsky1336 Год назад
Just two words... Great job ;)
@aaronwright8541
@aaronwright8541 Год назад
Why not just clean the plugs if they were replaced recently? Ultrasonic cleaners seem to do the job, prob pay for itself if you've got 12 to do.
@rikabob
@rikabob Год назад
So why does a start failing after fifteen to twenty minutes and not right away ?
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
I believe that once all the metal filings get hot they may disturb the magnetic field or maybe the sensor couldn’t stand the heat anymore after getting damaged
@alexandrecouture2462
@alexandrecouture2462 Год назад
Dilatation can make the coil in the sensor be fine or become bad at different temperature.
@jagmarc
@jagmarc 10 месяцев назад
Good job. Always best to indentify the fault beyond doubt first before doing anything. Myself I've always avoided replacing parts unless they really are faulty since replacement parts are often lower quality, even the "made to jaguar specification" ones. Used parts from scrapyards are usually much better made and they last longer. It could be the cause of the fault was mechanical damage from something unknown, the metal fragments say something. The fault could repeat itself again. If someone says they put new sparking plugs and they say they clean them then that means there's a problem , as misfire difficult to notice. Hook up an oscilloscope to see each sensor pulse is ideal.
@MrBchott
@MrBchott Год назад
I would really love to know how to read the engine code .. i have a 1995 . With a engine check light.. on . Car runs good . But im in NY and need state inspection
@chrismakesstuff1
@chrismakesstuff1 Год назад
Great info. your videos helped get my 86 xjs running after sitting for 10yrs.
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Glad I could help!
@shaharalon46
@shaharalon46 Год назад
I also had this problem, in my case it was cloge secondery fuel tank
@kevinmurphy4304
@kevinmurphy4304 Год назад
Another excellent video.A very logical approach to diagnosing problems.
@Fedgery007
@Fedgery007 Год назад
We need more mechanics like you!
@westy1
@westy1 Год назад
Nice job on troubleshooting,,got to be satisfying to sort it out for the customer,well done,really enjoy your channel,merry christmas from New Zealand .
@neilhampson2843
@neilhampson2843 Год назад
Great diagnosis , I would hate to think how much a V12 Jaguar cost in fuel alone. Over here in the UK petrol is a £1.70 for E5 fuel. We have a few classics in the garage and just down to fuel prices you have to think twice before running them over a long distance. They are both V8s, one at 3.4l and the other 4.0l. Rear wheel drive and snow is not the best.❄❄☃☃
@andrewmcewan8081
@andrewmcewan8081 Год назад
didnt the early ones have 2 coils . the thing i always say to people that complain or take the mik out of these engines is to find someone who understands them well and follow there instructions for maintanence , care and repair . that way they r as good as most classics . the problems normally come from years of bodged repairs to save money
@frankkemble2103
@frankkemble2103 Год назад
My guess is that the sensor was getting hot and dying due to thermal runaway. It probably would have been fine if put back in and gapped properly even though damaged. Nice job! I think I would have gone for the HEI unit first and been wrong.
@JeffChester-jq4xq
@JeffChester-jq4xq Год назад
what is the part number? and where do you get a NEW one, I need one, Please
@tjmthejagmandownunder
@tjmthejagmandownunder Год назад
Wow Adam good work! No excuses for the previous mechanic though. I always wondered why there was a brass 10 thou feeler on the old school feeler guages until I had to set my pick earlier this year. 30 degrees here. Have a great Christmas TJM
@Taz6688
@Taz6688 Год назад
Excellent work, the question is why did one of the other shops not pick that up.
@JeffChester-jq4xq
@JeffChester-jq4xq Год назад
what is this part called again?
@BigFiveJack
@BigFiveJack Год назад
Watching you logically work through the process of determining the problem's source, capitalizing on your knowledge of these engines' details, is a joy unto itself!
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
It’s a bit of an odd engine to have a speciality for but it’s fun
@Rick-sl7iw
@Rick-sl7iw Год назад
Your are a jaguar genius Adam well done great video
@frnkbooth6871
@frnkbooth6871 20 дней назад
Great video. Good diagnosis. Takes some of the fear out of this beast. Not that complicated.
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic 18 дней назад
They're not too bad
@paul-ludgerschmitz3169
@paul-ludgerschmitz3169 Год назад
My XJS shows a similar behavior: it starts perfectly frim cold - runs for about 10 to 15 minutes - and then stops. No way to re-start for about 30 mins. After waiting for some time and re-starting the engine - the engine runs without any further issues. Do you think this behavior is the sourced by the same defect seonsor?
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Either that or the amplifier. Check if it’s spark that you lose
@12yearssober
@12yearssober Год назад
Isn't there a coax type cable towards the back of the engine that causes problems like this on these engines?
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Yes however it looked new also (forgot to mention that) When I saw how damaged the sensor was it became very clear that it’s the issue
@r.e.r.6334
@r.e.r.6334 Год назад
The black box on the engine needs replacing
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Watch until the end
@tedthalassinos5668
@tedthalassinos5668 4 месяца назад
How do you call that sensor in the distributor..i need one
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic 4 месяца назад
It's called a pick up
@lionelguilbert6493
@lionelguilbert6493 Год назад
Great troubleshooting again Adam! Satisfying!
@williamcross3648
@williamcross3648 Год назад
Hi Adam, you certainly know your Jags pity you dont live in the UK, excellent job once again
@michaelmeniktas5054
@michaelmeniktas5054 Год назад
Adam, always enjoy your videos...I have a 90 XJS v-12 and have been having a hot soak issue; car runs great with normal temp readings...then I shut her down, and then doesn't restart. Takes about a hour to cool the engine down and then it cranks to start. Would your solution on the 15 min Jag be the same fix? the only solution Ive come across is turning the ignition key in the accessory position 3-4 time and then full crank and she starts after 30 min or so. What could the problem be? ??...thanks, stranded in San Francisco!!
@jabirucru6970
@jabirucru6970 Год назад
Great fault diagnostics. Old school. Follow the clues unlike modern “mechanics “ and I use the term loosely who fault find by just changing part after part until the problem is solved and the customer is bankrupt!
@donswork3059
@donswork3059 Год назад
How could you tell it was running on only 1 or a few cylinders? Just by listening to the exhaust for misses?
@jeffharrison5265
@jeffharrison5265 Год назад
Awesome trouble shooting!!! You continue to impress with you skill. Always enjoy watching you work. Great job.
@bombakdik
@bombakdik Год назад
Looking forward watching this video. The fact that the rev counter drops deadly to zero indicates perhaps that the signal to it dies as well immediately. Where does the signal to the rev counter come from? As already said it has been some time ago but I am catching up! Best wishes and cheers from Belgium!
@johndavey72
@johndavey72 Год назад
Adam. You need to find out the various "specialists" who looked at this . Then see their charge out rate , then multiply that by 2 and use that as your datum for your charge out rate....you've still saved that client thousands ! It may have been your hobby when l first subscribed but my goodness you've become an aficionado bar none !! And don't feel any guilt , l did , and lost everytning and 30 years later l'm still getting chased by debt collectors . The only consolation is l still get "strangers" walking up to me and telling me how good l was ,which is lovely but it doesn't bring the house back or the constant "looking over the shoulder !" You have a skill few have . Use it to your advantage !
@GetrealwithSteve7
@GetrealwithSteve7 Год назад
Is it possible that it is having a vapor lock? Merry Christmas!
@michaelau5159
@michaelau5159 Год назад
Brilliant job, I'm surprised it wasn't making a noise as the gap closed.
@petem85793
@petem85793 Год назад
Good fault finding. Another issue on these is that the electrolytic capacitors in the ECU get old and dry out. I had that problem some years ago. The capacitors are very easy to replace and the random injection failures were cured.
@jonhill9564
@jonhill9564 Год назад
Expecting this is what the problem with mine is. Thank you!
@8000Christopher
@8000Christopher Год назад
Wow ! Adam you are the maestro of Jaguars. Great vid, that is why, this guy, a mechanical dim wit likes to watch your vids. Well done, your customer must love you. BTW that XJS is the same year as mine, and mine is a coupe as well. The coupes are cool.
@kevinhaigh1654
@kevinhaigh1654 Год назад
Well done fella very interesting and probably were you take your time looking for the problem other places won't take the time like you, and it's brilliant using other parts before ordering things well done Adam
@deanberesford2287
@deanberesford2287 Год назад
Well done that man, have a good Christmas Adam and family, kind regards Dean.
@jonhill9564
@jonhill9564 Год назад
Would be great if you'd provide part name, or part number.
@berwhaletheavenger
@berwhaletheavenger Год назад
Another excellent video! I thought I knew quite a lot about these but I learn something new every time - thanks!
@alanchan1772
@alanchan1772 Год назад
Great work, fuel line, coolant hoses are great recommend.
@Lotusvvc
@Lotusvvc Год назад
Well done Adam - very interesting.
@joline8305
@joline8305 Год назад
Really helpful to have spare parts to be able to substitute to prove a fault. This is what a specialist should have! I guess if you hadn't had other parts handy you would have still taken the distributor apart and found the state of the sensor which would have been a big clue?
@rikabob
@rikabob Год назад
I've seen you test a lot of sensors on the v12, can this sensor also be tested with a multimeter and look for different results when cold or warm ?
@Nick-vp7lp
@Nick-vp7lp Год назад
Definitely a "jaaaaaaag whisperer." 😄
@mikehill9888
@mikehill9888 Год назад
Thank you for your time and video.
@glennrogers6650
@glennrogers6650 Год назад
Well done sir. Great video.
@craigmorton1944
@craigmorton1944 Год назад
Grace Space and Pace . Well done !
@daniellandstrom2457
@daniellandstrom2457 Год назад
Well done!
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Thanks mate!
@jagvette1
@jagvette1 Год назад
Good job, well done
@pstreetgarage7304
@pstreetgarage7304 Год назад
Great job. Good investigative skills
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Thank you!
@tassietony1226
@tassietony1226 Год назад
Another great video thanks for posting mate well done
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@hardit359
@hardit359 Год назад
Great stuff..!
@williamellis3961
@williamellis3961 Год назад
Yes bless Adam.
@shauntvr4312
@shauntvr4312 Год назад
Nice job 👏
@alexandrecouture2462
@alexandrecouture2462 Год назад
Great fix!
@tlk0216
@tlk0216 Год назад
relay?
@Kyfordman1989
@Kyfordman1989 Год назад
Are you in a Jaguar club in Switzerland?
@lebojay
@lebojay Год назад
Adam’s in Sweden.
@LivingWithAClassic
@LivingWithAClassic Год назад
Yes I’m Sweden
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