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Is iFLY15 Hydrofoil Catamaran able to fly in less than 5kts. / 2Bft. of wind? See in this video iFLY15 taking off and staying airborne, while being sailed in different configurations: single handed, 2-Up with crew weight 180kg, with and without "CodeF". The revolutionary "CodeF" is an iFLY development and gets rid of numerous disadvantages of classic Code0 on a foiling boat. This innovation allows to fly as well downwind as upwind in the lightest breeze, always with zero rudder force. The sail creates lift, as it is not vertical. The foot of the sail closes with the deck, so no loss of pressure, like on the deck sweeping mainsail. "CodeF" light wind foresail : The Code0 for Foiling.
comment of James Aron :
" So, the angled headsail is actually a performance feature and not for the lack of a bowsprit? "
iFLY15 Foiling Catamaran :
" If we were thinking a conventional Code0 and bowsprit would be the best solution for a foiling catamaran, we just would have added a bowsprit and would have gone for a Code0. During AC even in lightwind racing we have observed, that the Code0 have not been used. They are not ideal. iFLY developed the new foresail concept of CodeF (name derived from Code0 for Fly) to achieve the following features: i) take off in lightest winds of 6-7kn and stay foiling in 5-6kn (2-3kn lower wind needed than e.g. the AC75 or GC32). ii) 100% full foiling upwind (up to 20degree apparent wind angle) and on all other courses iii) neutral rudder with CodeF and without CodeF (which is the case beyond 9-10kn). No tendency to bear away when headsail is up iv) fast and easy hoisting and storing away on the water v) not compromising the "normal" simple iFLY handling when sailing without CodeF, easy to take sails and all it's components from the boat, no furler, snuffer... vi) avoid disadvantages of Code0: tack too much foreward - problems when sailing upwind, setup of sailplan changed, boat wants to bear away vii) no additional weight and cost from bowsprit viii) no danger of injury resulting from bowsprit ix) center of headsail wind forces lower than Code0 - not so much heeling moment, compromising righting moment. Code0 is high, as tack needs to be high enough not to pierce waves with the bowsprit. CodeF tack is a lot lower and more aft, at the bow. x) CodeF foot is at deck level and closes with deck - no loss of pressure. perfect cooperation with decksweeper mainsail, creating jet xi) no additional drag in the air by bowsprit with stabilizing lashings etc, no snuffer ... xii) CodeF not only creating propulsion, but additonally creating lift, as sail in diagonal xiii) CodeF being excentered, not in the middle in front of mast, not interfering with mainsail. Allowing longer foot of sail xiii) CodeF is easy to tack and gybe, actively pulling tack to new leeward ... CodeF is a completely new concept of a headsail. "
James Aron :
" @iFLY15 Foiling Catamaran Wow, great comment. Was simply curious but you provided an unexpected wealth of information. "
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@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 3 года назад
So, the angled headsail is actually a performance feature and not for the lack of a bowsprit?
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 3 года назад
If we were thinking a conventional Code0 and bowsprit would be the best solution for a foiling catamaran, we just would have added a bowsprit and would have gone for a Code0. During AC even in lightwind racing we have observed, that the Code0 have not been used. They are not ideal. iFLY developed the new foresail concept of CodeF (name derived from Code0 for Fly) to achieve the following features: i) take off in lightest winds of 6-7kn and stay foiling in 5-6kn (2-3kn lower wind needed than e.g. the AC75 or GC32). ii) 100% full foiling upwind (up to 20degree apparent wind angle) and on all other courses iii) neutral rudder with CodeF and without CodeF (which is the case beyond 9-10kn). No tendency to bear away when headsail is up iv) fast and easy hoisting and storing away on the water v) not compromising the "normal" simple iFLY handling when sailing without CodeF, easy to take sails and all it's components from the boat, no furler, snuffer... vi) avoid disadvantages of Code0: tack too much foreward -> problems when sailing upwind, setup of sailplan changed, boat wants to bear away vii) no additional weight and cost from bowsprit viii) no danger of injury resulting from bowsprit ix) center of headsail wind forces lower than Code0 --> not so much heeling moment, compromising righting moment. Code0 is high, as tack needs to be high enough not to pierce waves with the bowsprit. CodeF tack is a lot lower and more aft, at the bow. x) CodeF foot is at deck level and closes with deck -> no loss of pressure. perfect cooperation with decksweeper mainsail, creating jet xi) no additional drag in the air by bowsprit with stabilizing lashings etc, no snuffer ... xii) CodeF not only creating propulsion, but additonally creating lift, as sail in diagonal xiii) CodeF being excentered, not in the middle in front of mast, not interfering with mainsail. Allowing longer foot of sail xiii) CodeF is easy to tack and gybe, actively pulling tack to new leeward ... CodeF is a completely new concept of a headsail.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 3 года назад
@@iFLY-foiling Wow, great comment. Was simply curious but you provided an unexpected wealth of information.
@martinthomson3062
@martinthomson3062 3 года назад
@@iFLY-foiling iFLY is the most convincing piece of engineering available for normal sailors, that has been seen since a very long time. The innovations are just astonishing
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling Год назад
pls. write to contact@iFLYsail.com
@saitohshihomi5649
@saitohshihomi5649 Год назад
@@martinthomson3062 Aye! We/I Concur!!! The Innovations are The "Bomb" Simple/Safer and Easier- Indeed, The iFLY15 merits to be Scaled to the future 30 to 33 foot Family Fun Full of Joy Simpler/Safer/Swifter "Speedster". When I See and Study the Consistency, and seemingly %'s of Reliability with E-Michael Miller's and Team's FailSafeness Breakthru Concept and Configurations; I can not help to Dream what the future of "Air-Sea"/Air-Glide" semi-rigid Flatable Pneumatic Control next generation Trans-Oceanic Aloha Service Ships of the Future will be like. The iFLY15 is The Best Model to emulate for Equal-Valued-Exchange Wind/Wave and Solar Fun Speedster Vessels of The Future, with More Refinement, and Clarity with The Rig, and "Supplement" failsafe Applications; I believe the future Model for 20 to 35 knots Consistent Sailing & Flying is just over the next few Horizons.Keep Pulling The Apparent.
@pogcarr
@pogcarr 4 года назад
I absolutely love these boats! They are truly amazing to watch and probably the easiest foiling cat on the market. Sadly, they are just a bit too expensive for me to justify buying one.Half the price would be a a no-brainer.
@BBFazer
@BBFazer 9 месяцев назад
Wooow super video. What an impressive rocket!
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 9 месяцев назад
thank you. PM EMichael@iFLYsail.com
@e-michaelmiller2886
@e-michaelmiller2886 4 года назад
the wind was on the limit. With wind as light as this, you sacrifice hoch pointing in order to stay flying. So much more fun 🙂. You still reach a destination upwind quite fast, but you sail a longer distance, at much higher speed, with a big smile on your face, while everybody else is going slow motion 😎😀⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 3 года назад
interesting to see what's going on in lightwind racing of the AC75 @America's Cup. First of all they don't fly at all in such low conditions as the iFLY can. I have not seen the AC75s taking off in less than 9kts of wind, and staying on the foils in 8kts. of wind. iFLY can stay on the foils in 6kts. of light breeze and take off in a small puff of 7kts. Second interesting thing is the angles the AC75 are sailing in light wind. Did you realize they actually sail away from the finish line at some times, just to stay on the foils? Negative vmg, to stay foiling, waiting for the breeze to pick up and allow them to sail decent angles again.
@saitohshihomi5649
@saitohshihomi5649 Год назад
Here, I/We woud like to "Introduce" the Ideal of dialed-in Function of The "Pneumatic-Control" MOLO-WING fore-triangle "Supplement"!?! Let's Huddle and Compare notes with "The-next-generation-Safer-Rig" Lighter/Faster/Simpler- To Become More Reliable, and utmost Consistent VMG's Closer & Deeper Performance Trajectory Numbers.
@thaiiexpat10
@thaiiexpat10 4 года назад
Great stuff.. Want one where I can stay on board, not hanging on the sides... for longer routes..
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 4 года назад
You do not need to hike out. You can also fly on iFLY while sitting on the trampoline. We successfully crossed the English Channel from Cowes to Dinard, 240km. Besides, racks are available for iFLY. You sit on those without trapezing.
@chrisdymond3387
@chrisdymond3387 Год назад
Is there anywhere in the UK you can experience one of these?
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling Год назад
pls. write to contact@iFLYsail.com. There are a couple of iFLYs in the UK.
@paulypaul111
@paulypaul111 3 года назад
If I had $30k burning a hole in my pocket I would buy one.
@saitohshihomi5649
@saitohshihomi5649 Год назад
Ahoy Paul Leroux San, with HERU-Wing, whistles_Bells; Plus "International'e Shipping to Hawai'i Our iFLY to Neighbor_island $$$$ is closer to 45 to 50 000's-Keep PullingThe Apparent; for the Price, remember the next generation Moths Price has gone Sky-Higher
@Mossy5150
@Mossy5150 3 года назад
I had to fast-forward through that gybe though...oof. How many control lines should a 1 person boat have? Great accomplishment for light wind foiling, but it looks like fighting an octopus just to get on a broad reach. Why a headsail instead of just more main, do you need the headsail to be able to foil upwind?
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 3 года назад
having an auxiliary headsail for light wind gives you flexibility and always perfect sail plan. In decent wind you will be faster with the mainsail only. CodeF is just to be able to fly in even less wind, as low as 6-7kts. of light breeze. If we put a higher mast with more sail area, it would be nice in 2Bft., but already in 10kts. of wind you will wish to have the smaller rig. In 10kts. of wind, iFLY is going around 23kts. of boat speed, which makes 25kts. of apparent wind! You don't want a big rig then and will be a lot faster and more stable with the best rig we chose for the iFLY. If you are a fan of sailing overpowered, we can deliver you the iFLY with any bigger rig. e.g. iFLY is fully compatible with any a-class rig
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 3 года назад
the amount of control lines is 2. Sheet and tack line. Sailing single handed an F16 or Hobie FxOne means handling as many lines as foiling the iFLY single handed with CodeF. To do so and perform fast gybing and tacking needs some training. It is for iFLY sailors with some experience. The price to wind is foiling in such light conditions, where nobody else is on their foils. And this means sailing at 2-3 times the speed than anymody else on the water body. This is the magic of CodeF. iFly is full foiling upwind with great vmg also without CodeF. Then everything is very simple with just the mainsheet and the ruder to opereate. But with CodeF you can push down the lower wind limit for foiling below 6-7kn of breeze, and that is very important.
@kurthenze2900
@kurthenze2900 2 года назад
An optional bigger main would be better. You could point higher and keep your sail shape. 14 - 15 square meters would do it. Keep the same mast height, just increase the sail area. Wahoo! This would be for single-hand sailing.
@iFLYsail
@iFLYsail 2 года назад
dear Kurt, thank you for sharing your technical view. Obviously, we have also considered a larger mainssil. After a very careful research, we came to the conclusion, that the CodeF concept is the way to go. First of all, because of flexibility in changing wind conditions. Your proposal of a XL mainsail will bring you in trouble if wind conditions change towards stronger winds. Also it forces you to have two main sail - and hopefully always making the right choice before going sailing. Performance wise, with constant evolution (e.g. kevlar laminate fabric) we have reached noe excellent vmg upwind - we can sail the same high angles than other performance catamarans like eg the F18. Actually, when I am heading up, it is the main sail who is giving up first, while the very flat CodeF is still having a nice flow.
@kurthenze2900
@kurthenze2900 Год назад
@@iFLYsail You could maybe flatten your main and limit your mast rotation if it fails before your jib/gen/spin. That doesn't sound right. That's what I would try. If you cannot adjust it you should devise. IMO
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling Год назад
@@kurthenze2900 thank you for sharing this. Innovation and progress needs to be thinking in many different directions.
@saitohshihomi5649
@saitohshihomi5649 Год назад
@@iFLYsail Aye, We/I concur! One-Sail, with Simpler/Safer/Swfter FttW (Faster-than-the-Wind) "FailSafe/FlySafe Supplement". alohnui Gambatte and Imua for More iFLY Cost-Effective & User-Friendly Breaktrhu Concepts and Dialed-In Configurations; May You reach The 100,000 iFLT's mark with Happy/Content "Glide-Masters" sooner than You & Team think!!!!
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling Год назад
small update on this one: main reason for not using a 14 - 15sqm sail for iFLY one design class was the fact that once flying you are quickly overpowered with such a big rig. Apparent wind is picking up a lot, when iFLY is reaching e.g 20kts of boat speed in 8kts of true wind speed. However, there lays obviously a huge potential in a larger unarig. Here is what we have been doing in the past year: in the iFLY open class / Formula Foil we sail the iFLY RAZZOR Pro. This boat is free from the limitations of the open class. Here we do plenty of further innovations to further push the limits. One thing is a 8.5m mast (instead of 7.5m mast at iFLY one design), and we are using two sizes of mainsail, 11.7sqm and a 14.2sqm XXL lightwind sail. This allows to optimize, according to what wind conditions the day will bring. Also we developed the option of a reefable mainsail for the 14.2sqm XXL lightwind sail, to stay out of trouble when conditions might breeze up unexpectedly on long journeys, as e.g. the Channel crossing challenge Cowes-Dinard. To complete the light wind setup, on top of the XXL mainsail we use an XXL CodeF headsail in the lightest breeze. Like this we now can fly in conditions where hardly anybody else can. Important to mention that the use of larger sail area requires additional righing moment. After years of development we now proudly present iFLYs fully mature MDT mainfoil differential T-Foil Technology. It allows to fine adjust a huge amount of extra righting moment, generated by the windward mainfoil (beeing even more effective than doing the same thing on the small rudder foils, as e.g. latest A-class development or F50 at SailGP). MDT is the key to be able to handle the power of larger rigs. MDT thus is a performance boost for iFLY. We observed up to 25% higher speeds while full foiling upwind at good angles. Vmg is a blast! With the iFLY RAZZOR Pro, 14.2sqm XXL lightwind mainsail and oversized CodeF we fly today in even less wind than in this video taken 3 years ago.
@simonnicolascosta.borncost3677
@simonnicolascosta.borncost3677 4 года назад
HAVE YOU EVER HIT ANYTHING YET IN THE WATER AT SPEED ???
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 4 года назад
iFLY daggerboard bearing are designed with a crash box that avoids damage to foils or hulls. This unique feature anticipates eventual collisions or running on ground.
@yd8104
@yd8104 4 года назад
I feel like you cannot fly upwind because each time you bear away to fly and i never see going back to initial trajectory. I sail Hobie 16, I know nothing about foiling
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 3 года назад
in the very light wind sometimes you sacrifice good angles to stay on the foils. Looking at current America's cup lightwind racing, you might have observed that they actually sail away from the finish line at some times, just to stay on the foils? Negative vmg, to stay foiling, waiting for the breeze to pick up and allow them to sail decent angles again. Besides, the AC75s don't fly at all in such low conditions as the iFLY can. I have not seen the AC75s taking off in less than 9kts of wind, and staying on the foils in 8kts. of wind. iFLY can stay on the foils in 6kts. of light breeze and take off in a small puff of 7kts.
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling 3 года назад
so yes, once the wind picks up a little bit to allow decent foiling, iFLY can fly upwind with a very good vmg and being full foiling 100% upwind. See e.g. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vhe0obbo_VM.html or ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oJO_e5RjAf8.html
@saitohshihomi5649
@saitohshihomi5649 Год назад
@@iFLY-foiling& Team- Indeed Miller Sama, The Foil/Fly AC Mono & SAIL GP Catamaran all have this reality and Continued Challenge- I propose the Smyth/Brown approach to this "barrier", with The Applied-Apptitude with "primed" Human-Powered Supplement booster "Propeller-Foil" Programing- Along with Your FlySafe and Gonzalez San Sama's "Pilot-Assist" System, while also Listening and Taking-Note c/o "Mozzy Sails Study", and Proclamations- We as Apparent-Wind-Scholars, have a long way yet to Go for the 100% "Sweet-n-Effortless" Glide both Up-Wind/Down-Wind FAILSAFE/Reliability minimum 2.5 to 3.5 FttW (Faster-than-the-Wind) Fun-Service Mesmerizing Shared Experiences. Yet, on The Global-World-Wide Perspective, We Can Create the Means & Do!!!! It was once shown to me with "Air-Lubercation, and Pneumatic-Control future-rigs Deployed We will see 5 to 6 times the Speed of the Wind! Hmm, I Wonder, If Can? here's an idea, let's Lokahi (come together figure-it-out) and create the means to make our Dreams and Visions come closer to Reality- Would it not be so grande to have the AC & Sail GP Programs (Venues and Formats) be out on the Same water and in the same Wind together at the same time; oh my What a Spectacle, and Text-Book on the Water this would Be- Just Imagine that which We All Can Learn and Apply for the Next Generation Yet to Be Born. Indeed, the "secrect-formula" is Collaboration with "Transcending The Riding Styles Together" While also Learning from each other to Go; Again- Closet & Deepest At Safer/Simpler Speed into The Wind, To Make and to have Readily in Place The Future Dream Sailing/Foiling/Flying/Gliding Mode Activated Machines and Community-Service "TOOLS" me ke aloha pumehana jj i s~c. Thankx So Very Much for allowing me/us to share and care Our Passion and Compassion to "Glide" FttW. It is Your iFLY 15 that has opened Our/mine eyes unto the Greater Opportunities, and Best-Possibilities in the near Future to SaS-S "Glide" Effortlessly. Please, KeepPulling The Apparent, and Have a most Deliihgtfull "Surfilicious" Day. aloha nui.
@iFLY-foiling
@iFLY-foiling Год назад
​@@saitohshihomi5649 thank you for the competent comments and the great appreciation of the technological efforts we are doing for iFLY. From what I read I can clearly see that you are an expert and know what you are talking about. I agree to your conclusions. Also, I imagine that by far not everybody will be able to understand your words, as you are using a lot of technical terms and also refer to many aspects / projects many people are not aware of. If you would like to reach a wider audience, maybe good to consider explaining your thoughts with words that are easer to read for sailors that are not as much of an expert than you are 😀
@simonnicolascosta.borncost3677
@simonnicolascosta.borncost3677 4 года назад
WUNDERBAR DAS IST SEHR GUT FUR MICH KING OF KUWAIT ?? QATARI ROYAL FAMILY INDONESIA PHILLAPENES ARUBA BONAIRE CURACAO SABA . SINT MARTIN ??
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