Can Kohle make my vintage amp sound modern?

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After looking for a good modern metal amp for a while I accidentally bought a vintage Marshall JMP from 1972 instead. Now, how do I get that to sound somewhat modern? Maybe Mr Kohle can help!
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@user-dj9vn2xu5h Год назад

It was so much fun at your place! Thanks for having me, I’ll be back soon! 🤘❤️

@hoborec Год назад

When ever you want Kristian! 😘

@Producelikeapro Год назад

@@hoborec Kristian is the man!

@emilrolof Год назад

My favorite amps to use an HM-2 with are old Marshalls. I usually use a ‘67 JTM 100 Super PA through a 2x12 with JBL D120 and a 4x12 with Pulsonic G12H 55Hz from 1970, amazing chainsaw sound! 🙂

@needsLITHIUM 10 месяцев назад

Good to know I'm not the only one!

@RomanRotten 7 месяцев назад

Agreed, my Studio Vintage Plexi takes RAT and HM2 really well. As well as my Sovtek mig50!

@danolivier4899 Год назад

Okay sticking a pedal between the two channels in a 4-hole marshall to mess with the bass is such a cool idea, I am definitely going to experiment with that - thanks!

@hoborec Год назад

Right?!! I’m going to make a follow up video on that for sure!

@Naastmorkh Год назад

Yep, a few years ago we did almost the same thing with vintage Marshall from 70's and RAT pedal, so we got quite "pleasant" result.

@hoborec Год назад

Every time I bring out the rat I’m thinking “wow, this is really under rated, I should use this more!”

@Naastmorkh Год назад

@@hoborec well yes, i think RAT is one of these classic pedals every "heavy" studio must have.

@electricmeatpuppet Год назад

@@hoborec RAT love! One of my to fav pieces of gear easily.

@sirduckoufthenorth 3 дня назад

That patch cable method is pretty cool

@tommycato6368 Год назад

Facial expressions usually adds the last 10 percent to a metal sound. I'm an even older guy so this was really useful. Thanks!

@hoborec Год назад

Hahaha so that’s why I’m never happy with the sound when I play. My expression game is not that solid 😅

@pauljohn5584 Год назад

Awesome! I’m so glad you guys are doing some stuff together! I watch both of your channels independently so this again, is AWESOME

@hoborec Год назад

Thanks Paul! Hopefully there will be more in the future 😘

@warphalak Год назад

This was so cool man. Need more stuff like this.

@hoborec Год назад

Thanks for watching!!

@Producelikeapro Год назад

Yes!! Another great video! You guys rock!!

@hoborec Год назад

Thank you very much!!

@Producelikeapro Год назад

@@hoborec thank you!

@MrNoHopeDoomcore Год назад

Great content from you guys, good to see ya both in one clip, that's pure awesomeness! Thanks for the tricks!🐀

@theinfestedmonk8382 Год назад

It's actually a really cool tone for Grindcore ! It reminds me the guitar sounds coming from the Soundlab Studio in Orebro during the 2000's

@hoborec Год назад

RIP Mieszko…

@RetroDoneRight Год назад

I still love the way the Regurgitate - Carnivorous Erection sounds. RIP

@aksisoylenemez Год назад

That was great! Thank you for the video.

@hoborec Год назад

Thank you 🙏

@georgewilson2865 Год назад

Love the video. You and Kristian awesome.

@hoborec Год назад

Thanks, it was a lot of fun!

@johnpeters8060 Год назад

This is an awesome video! Just shows that you don’t need the “latest and greatest” new toy to get amazing sounds! kudos:)

@hoborec Год назад

You might also end up with some more original sounds that way. Even though Marshall’s are probably the most recorded amps haha.

@somepunkinthecomments471 3 месяца назад

I'm currently using a rat boosting a catalinbread sft. The sft is set to max gain, 9 o'clock bass, noon treble. Sound thick and chunky by itself. Then the rat at 9 o'clock gain, max volume, and about 2 o'clock filter. The rat with the gain down really low adds this biting midrange that can almost turn a muff into modern metal. The sft brings the chunk, the rat brings the bite. Sounds pretty good to my ears, I haven't compared it to a modern metal amp tone though.

@liangerbinomusic Год назад

Awesome! Really cool video. Kinda hard to ask the plexy behave like a modern amp but damn, the end result was pretty cool!

@hoborec Год назад

Right? But I really like how gritty it gets when you push old stuff into the extreme.

@user-dj9vn2xu5h Год назад

Thanks! I gave my very best 🤘❤️

@Caleb-fv5fp Год назад

When you only want one amp you have to do what you have to do

@roberttaylor-branco3217 4 месяца назад

Very simple but very effective. For on the computer you can also just run any two guitar plugins, NuralDSP etc simultaneously and blend the tone 😉

@heathenflair 24 дня назад

I’m so onboard for this! I used to love running my guitars through a plexi but in the end I switched it out. Big regrets. Haha

@tobins6800 Год назад

For the plug in route only, are y'all ready for option paralysis? First, get a lush clean sound, think rich, full, clear, add effects if you so desire. Then dial up the distorted tone. Experiment. It's wrong only when it sounds bad. Few dirt pedals have the blend knob, but worth searching for. The Red Seven Leviathan to me sounds like a blended tone. Check out John Browne's demo.

@kurtbader9711 Месяц назад

Just use a crunchy tube preamp and push the Marshall preamp tubes. Now you've got two or three stages of tube gain. Throw the tube screamer in for a mid boost.

@MrHylfe Год назад

Peavey Bass Mark IV is sick. 2 "blend-able" channels with fx-loop on each channel and crossover output to send to slave-amp.

@hoborec Год назад

That sounds like an awesome playground for some serious experimentation!

@seanmorgan9020 Год назад

Disfear cap and Kohle? That's a sub.

@hoborec Год назад

Haha thanks! 🙏

@mattvdh Год назад

One thing I would strongly suggest is using a smart gate that works with a key input and fx loop. Not just because when you stop playing it sounds like the amp isn't even on, but actually while you're playing it cleans up your tone and removes quite a lot of annoying shit in the guitar tone and tightens it up quite a lot. I would say it's entirely critical for sick modern metal tone, it's not just kind of sort good to have, it's 100% necessary.

@hoborec Год назад

Yes! I didn’t have a gate at hand when we shot this. But also, this amp doesn’t have a fx loop so it would only work with the simple kind of gate.

@ThefabulousJF Год назад

You definitel should check out a Diezel VH4 which is a "pretty old" design by now also and I would call it a classic - so fitting perfect in your collection ;-) Channel 2 is totally underestimated, gives Marshall sounds but super precise (perfect for doubling, L/R with real Marshall etc). For Metal recording - Ch 3. Going crazy - ch 4.

@hoborec Год назад

Thanks for the tip. I’ll definitely check it out.

@silviopimentel7247 Год назад

Would probably sound great with the red bogner pre

@hoborec Год назад

Have to check that out!

@lovecraftmusic8717 11 месяцев назад

Why just not using a Boss ge7 after the ts9? Solves a lot of problems and can get you rid of that nasty high freqs as well.

@KidNato Год назад

Adding just a slight touch of gain from your OD pedal can go a LONG way when trying to get a vintage amp to sound a bit more modern, even when the OD is going into a dirt pedal, such as this video. That said, the real secret is to just EQ the hell out of it, on top of adding gain stages of course.

@hoborec Год назад

There will be more experimenting with this amp for sure.

@erictripton Год назад

If my Plexis sound like this, something's wrong. Check filter caps and tubes. There is no need to jump the channels. I might only use a pedal for boost, the amp should sound like the Holy Grail of high gain by itself. With all due respect lads, this is not representative of a proper Plexi. I use it for all my videos, and respectfully it sounds dissimilar to your amp.

@hoborec Год назад

Hmm, It was supposed to be in good shape and with new tubes and stuff. Since it sounded good i didn’t reflect, but now that you say it the amount of distortion might be on the light side. I’ll check it out, thank you. Regardless, the type of guitar sound you have in your videos is cool, but not what we were going for here. But if I’m going to be real serious about it, it’s better to let a Marshall sound like a Marshall and get some other amp if another sound is required. Experiments are fun though.

@erictripton Год назад

"Thanks for taking time to reply" True, but therein lies the 'thing'; coming across an old Marshall that has that serious amount of gain when pushed. I know they tweaked their designs throughout the years, so I am not sure how a typical '71 JMP should sound. The 67-69 seem to be the magic years. Furthermore my Soldanos and others are gathering dust, literally. When I plug into one, I immediately recognize a HUGE difference the way the amp responds. Preamp gain sounds fizzy/compressed to me now. Of course if I want nu metal, an overdrive through a noise gate and the amp set right, blows away any modern metal amp. Thats from years of tone chasing. In the end, it's all subjective. Good luck, and I hope a Marshall of the right kind plops in your lap someday, bruv.

@JayBeBerg Год назад

That's an unusually clean and murky sounding early '70's JMP. Is it healthy?

@hoborec Год назад

I really hope so. It had a check up not too long ago. But I haven’t compared to another.

@JayBeBerg Год назад

@@hoborec ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9MNJXQEqChg.html I made a quick clip of my '72 Superbass. Is yours a lead or bass amp?

@LordNerevar1 Год назад

And how does this work in a mix? I think we want to hear it

@hoborec Год назад

Yeah sorry, we didn’t have time to go that far. I’ll try to make it happen in a future video!

@Oliver-ty7xu Год назад

Vilket coolt knep med splitpedalen! Ska prova det med min AC30, den har också fyra ingångar.

@hoborec Год назад

Jag hade inte fattat helt hur det funkade med kanalerna innan. Men sugen på att experimentera vidare med detta.

@user-dj9vn2xu5h Год назад

@@hoborec Hit me up! I can explain, haha!

@hoborec Год назад

Haha can you come by right now? Näää, I got the splitting thing. What I meant was I didn’t fully understand how the two channels interacted before you showed me. The fact that it is two independent mixable channels is a perfect playground for a lot more experimentation.

@user-dj9vn2xu5h Год назад

@@hoborec Always here to help! 💪😇

@creativeheadroom Год назад

DRRT is like Dängel, but for guitars.

@hoborec Год назад

That might be very true 😅 Let’s try to standardise the expression DRUTT!

@erichzann3414 10 месяцев назад

Suecia y Alemania!

@calebneff5777 11 месяцев назад

Haha the low end on my Plexi has never been above 0, it's all just mud.

@miguelmikemigs Год назад

What if it were Guitar->TS->Lehle->(1) Rat->Treble channel, Then Lehle->(2)Bass channel. Just a thought.

@hoborec Год назад

I’m going to experiment more with this in a future video soon!

@densammesamme Год назад

Is that my old Rat :)

@hoborec Год назад

Haha not impossible 😅

@inmemoryofin 9 месяцев назад

This video is confusing me. On my 73 super lead 100w all you need is a ts9 or something similar, with cranked (or some other channel mix that is close to cranked) jumped channels the tone and feel are perfect for 80's style metal, definitely thrash (drrr drrr metal as the host says), even black metal. Prob not best for modern/commercial death metal, but also not at all what it sounds like here. The tone here sounds like you're pulling teeth out of that amp. It just doesn't want to play along. I want to listen again later in the studio, instead of my shitty sounding tv.

@inmemoryofin 9 месяцев назад

Btw I'm not actually suggesting that running your vintage Marshall full open all the time is a good idea. IME it does get the tone big time, but 1st of all it's really really loud. 2nd, I can only get a few sessions out of it before it blows up and needs another expensive retube. Be forewarned...

@hoborec 9 месяцев назад

Hey! You’re not the first to notice this. I suspect it’s the master pot modification that makes it weird. It changes the character of the distortion a lot.

@Caleb-fv5fp Год назад

So you made a vintage amp sound modern with vintage pedals?

@hoborec Год назад

😂