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Can Life Exist Without Water? Biosignatures with Janusz Petkowski 

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Can life exist without water? Are there alternative solvents for life? Janusz Petkowski dicusses how life might be able to start on other planets and what biosignatures we should be looking for.
Alternative solvents for life: framework for evaluation, current status and future research
arxiv.org/abs/2401.07296
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Комментарии : 103   
@BitcoinMeister
@BitcoinMeister 3 месяца назад
Great point about not needing to define life when you are looking for it. Find some anomalies and work from there!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 месяца назад
It’s quite the unique perspective.
@Zurround
@Zurround 3 месяца назад
I posted above that it irritates me how snobby and @n@l retentive our species (especially scientists) are with DEFINING things. Instead of being obsessed with EXACT DEFINITIONS of things we should just see what is there and just accept that things are what they are. Scientists still have not agreed on whether VIRUSES are technically life or not.
@beatsntoons
@beatsntoons 3 месяца назад
@@EventHorizonShow and it shouldn't be. That's why I think the Drake Equation and the Kardashev scales are... well, trash. They imply life like ours, and even cultures like ours. That's nuts.
@211212112
@211212112 3 месяца назад
Life is like porn. It is hard to define, but easy to know when you see it. A supreme court dude said that not verbatim
@211212112
@211212112 3 месяца назад
Generative phosphorus biochemistry is an acquired taste, a fluke of nature by nature so to say
@Zurround
@Zurround 3 месяца назад
One thing I MOST respect about this guest is that he ADMITTED that he had no one specific DEFINITION for life. We as humans are too obsessed with DEFINING things and we get very @n@l retentive about it and reject anything that does not perfectly fit how we have decided to "define" something. In the real world things just ARE THE WAY THEY ARE and the universe does not give a d@mn how we choose to "define" something.
@simonehudspeth861
@simonehudspeth861 Месяц назад
lmfao your correct im just here to say i read @n@l as AT N AT l and was like wtf does that mean? ... then laughed at myself for about 10 minutes .. thanks for helping me wake up today lol
@talkingmudcrab718
@talkingmudcrab718 3 месяца назад
32:30 "Life is a planetary phenomena.." The nomadic Space Whales of the Omega Centauri cluster would like to have a word! 😅 Great episode, as always!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 месяца назад
Purrgils. Their name is Purrgils.
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan 3 месяца назад
Lol JMG i do love that you’re so open about your microbial universe biases. I definitely agree with you, and believe it makes perfect sense. I hope that within my lifetime we’re able to take microscopic pictures of both Mars and Venus and hopefully find life on one of the two. It’d be even cooler if we found life on Titan tho, both literally and figuratively.
@SewayPL
@SewayPL Месяц назад
As a long time Polish JMG fan I am so happy to hear Dr Pętkowski featured on this show
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Месяц назад
Janusz is a good friend of the show.
@BitcoinMeister
@BitcoinMeister 3 месяца назад
Great point about Europa's known old age making it a good candidate for life when combined with the factors that we always talk about. I had never heard this point before!
@micky8ball
@micky8ball 3 месяца назад
This video was a spectrum of slamdunks! Thank you!
@renikun6243
@renikun6243 3 месяца назад
Oh my god this is the topic I wished for so so so so so much!!! I just love astro chemistry I just pure bliss for me!! Thanks so much for bringing us so great talks so consistently ❤
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj 3 месяца назад
Woo hoo! Event horizon! Thank you for doing what you do! 😊🌎❤️🕺🏻🐶🚀
@stricknine6130
@stricknine6130 3 месяца назад
Nothing better than watching Event Horizon and having some coffee in my Event Horizon mug! Thanks for the episode!
@abaddonslair
@abaddonslair 3 месяца назад
That was the first time I've heard John burst with laughter. Made my day, it's definitely on a slum dunk spectrum now :D
@OneInterestedPerson
@OneInterestedPerson 3 месяца назад
Spectrum of slam dunk 😁
@hardergamer
@hardergamer 3 месяца назад
This will have my brain working in overload mode.
@trafimow
@trafimow 3 месяца назад
Fascinating stuff and the Polish accent at its finest lol
@mialotusmusic
@mialotusmusic 3 месяца назад
"You'll know it when you see it!" would make a good t-shirt slogan 😂😊
@External2737
@External2737 3 месяца назад
With water being so common, it seems like the accelerated path. It would be interesting to be proven wrong.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 месяца назад
Fantastic subject indeed! Thanks a bunch for the interview, John!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@johntoffee2566
@johntoffee2566 Месяц назад
I love Event Horizon. Just love it. Nothing comes near.
@garyr3179
@garyr3179 3 месяца назад
What a delightful interview with Janusz Petkowski! It is interesting to consider phosphorus as possibly an element that isn't needed for life but rather might be a secondary element life might adapt to. Also, great question by JMG regarding arsenic based life!
@cavetroll666
@cavetroll666 3 месяца назад
very cool thanks for the episode.
@CrapAtPoker
@CrapAtPoker 3 месяца назад
You’re an inspiration with these keep it up 👍🏼
@amangogna68
@amangogna68 3 месяца назад
Great video and information !
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 3 месяца назад
What a fascinating interview!
@adatdz5011
@adatdz5011 29 дней назад
38:53 I’ve never heard JMG laughing this hard, and I see why🤣
@charliefowkes1932
@charliefowkes1932 3 месяца назад
Excellent episode 🦠
@mikem.s.1183
@mikem.s.1183 Месяц назад
Many years ago, I remember Asimov and Sagan explore back then the chemistry of life and absence of water, carbon or nitrogen. Interesting video. 👌
@TheSkeptic000
@TheSkeptic000 3 месяца назад
Water is very common throughout the Milky Way. I can’t imagine life without water.
@JROD082384
@JROD082384 3 месяца назад
I love the title of this episode, but an even better title for a future episode would be to contemplate if all variations or potentialities for life require water as a firm condition to live or BE alive...
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 3 месяца назад
That’s the case with life on Earth.
@madmattdigs9518
@madmattdigs9518 3 месяца назад
As a living being myself, standing outside in 30 degrees Fahrenheit… I just can’t imagine life existing on Titan. I understand it would have to be very different, but even so, I just can’t fathom it.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 3 месяца назад
We found life right down the bottom of the ocean under extreme pressures & using underwater volcanos as energy sources.
@shalomedome1614
@shalomedome1614 3 месяца назад
There’s other sources of heat other than the sun.
@theholyghost
@theholyghost 3 месяца назад
Awww yeah I was just thinking about this topic the other day!
@jasonsmith373
@jasonsmith373 3 месяца назад
Wow, John, that was deep (future of earth). I'm crying now.
@tlamore
@tlamore 3 месяца назад
This is good stuff.. I suddenly don't feel so far out in my thoughts.. Life is here.. and we have a duty to spread it among the universe.. T.LaMore
@ugiswrong
@ugiswrong 3 месяца назад
No we really don’t
@phapnui
@phapnui 3 месяца назад
interesting as usual
@bizpo2713
@bizpo2713 3 месяца назад
Fantastic - what abut the effect of low temperature on the ability of these building blocks to arrange and mix?
@jimsteen911
@jimsteen911 3 месяца назад
Thank God it’s Thursday. Look forward to this all week. You’re not as prolific anymore on jmg! Me no like! No personal life for you John, I need intellectual stimulation. JK! Love everything you do brother
@billdepeitieus9887
@billdepeitieus9887 3 месяца назад
I keep coming back for the laugh. John, I would be honored to have a smoke with you one day
@subieclips
@subieclips 3 месяца назад
What's the name of the outro song? Banger🔥
@tomaszgora4353
@tomaszgora4353 3 месяца назад
Janusz mówisz ciekawie ale most striking thing dla mnie jako Polaka to jak niepolski masz akcent. Dziwne jak bardzo nie mogę get over it ;) Impressive. No hard feelings, regards :)
@Hoodlum555
@Hoodlum555 3 месяца назад
The song by TIffany "I think were alone now" comes to mind.
@Dogtroll
@Dogtroll 3 месяца назад
Actually, it seems to me that there is a basic principle that would make it much easier to theorize about potential environments that life can exist. The only difference between microscopic life and multicellular life is just the fact that there are fewer organic processes going on inside microscopic life so therefore there is far less of a likelihood that there would be anything about a particular environment that would make it impossible for microscopic life to exist. That being said, microscopic and multicellular life are fundamentally the same and therefore the only thing needed to allow for multicellular life to exist in any environment where microscopic life can exist is specific adaptation to that environment. So it just makes sense to assume that you could find advanced multicellular life in any environment that microscopic life can exist, and buildup a library of possible life supporting environments based upon environments that microscopic life can exist alone with the assumption of the possibility of more advanced life.
@jasonmilldrum
@jasonmilldrum 3 месяца назад
Thanks for another thought-provoking episode! We gonna get any more sentient opossum lore? 😁
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 месяца назад
Oh yes.
@timedeathe
@timedeathe 3 месяца назад
Ammonia and hydrogen florine version of jmg is water based life possible
@timedeathe
@timedeathe 3 месяца назад
24:42 still possible
@isajoha9962
@isajoha9962 3 месяца назад
Rrrright on.
@211212112
@211212112 3 месяца назад
So ammonia amd formamide can be basis of biochemistry if abundant on a world? Titan have either?
@Dogtroll
@Dogtroll 3 месяца назад
There are already fish that have been found living in pools of hydrochloric acid on earth so I'm not sure why there would still be questions about whether or not life could exist in such environments.
@smugfrog8111
@smugfrog8111 3 месяца назад
Before I even start the video I have to try. "Janusz Petkowski" Ya-nus Pet-kow-ski Lets see if I was right.. EDIT: Yup, I was. Actually shocked I got that right.
@211212112
@211212112 3 месяца назад
In lab the top 4 solvents are 1 water 2 alcohol 3 acetone 4 glycerin
@punkypinko2965
@punkypinko2965 3 месяца назад
Starts 0:56
@GizzyDillespee
@GizzyDillespee 3 месяца назад
You know the frozen block of pee and poo that the passenger airplanes contain? Well, a starship's block would probably be dehydrated (water reclamation), and super dense (compressed for storage). But... eventually, it would build up to the point that they'd have to shoot it off into space... billions of years ago, and accidentally on a collision course with our solar system. What if THAT'S what seeded life on Earth? Panspooia, IOW.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂 evolving from a sh*t farm. 😂😂😂
@mialotusmusic
@mialotusmusic 3 месяца назад
That's very funny! 😂 but I imagine on a starship, on a long voyage, ideally you would need to recycle everything. Poo is actually a valuable source of organic matter and nutrients for your food, it's your fertiliser and compost! You need to imitate earth's ecosystem, including bacterias and other decomposers. To recycle all that. If you throw away into space that matter, you will need to mine those elements elsewhere. Everything has value in space, even poo! 😂
@damianp7313
@damianp7313 3 месяца назад
Last time i came this late my wife was happy
@miller2675
@miller2675 3 месяца назад
Why are you NOT on Nebula?
@adolfodef
@adolfodef 3 месяца назад
Most likely reason: Politics [to agree, or to not agree: about Israel vs Palestine]
@JohnnyNiteTrain
@JohnnyNiteTrain 3 месяца назад
What up creatures of the night?!?!
@erinkinsey8831
@erinkinsey8831 3 месяца назад
David Grusch will tell us.
@Quickcat21MK
@Quickcat21MK 3 месяца назад
I can’t wait until we get to titan. And europa.
@user-mq9km5lk1e
@user-mq9km5lk1e 2 месяца назад
Miss water morning in the morning
@benjystrauss2524
@benjystrauss2524 2 месяца назад
Good video up to @53:15. You do realize that we can stop the sun's increasing luminosity, right?
@JohnMichaelGodier
@JohnMichaelGodier 2 месяца назад
Probably can't realistically stop the intrinsic brightening. You're gonna need a method of lifting helium from the core of a star for that. What you can do is buy time with star shade, but that is a stop gap. The sun will win in the end.
@benjystrauss2524
@benjystrauss2524 2 месяца назад
@@JohnMichaelGodier I'm talking about starlifting, siphoning matter off of the sun to reduce its size. Filter out anything other than hydrogen, and dump the hydrogen back in. I'd be very surprised if we didn't do this; and given human greed, I think it's more likely that, in the future, we'd have to worry about too faint a sun, not a too bright one.
@iambiggus
@iambiggus 3 месяца назад
16:33 What am I missing here? Alien language?
@DominicRyanOsborne
@DominicRyanOsborne 3 месяца назад
Sulphuric acid reservoirs makes me wonder where the green belts for each example planet and moon would be for life to be happy If Venus and Io could be moved to a place where surface pooling of whatever liquids could occur, where should they go in terms of orbit?
@DominicRyanOsborne
@DominicRyanOsborne 3 месяца назад
And the question of what for us are industrial chemicals that tend to be horrible and toxic.. what happens then with volcanism and continental/crust plate tectonics etc creating voids or tubes, cave systems and fissures that are otherwise geologically stable. They could produce biomes ripe for biologically stable niches to develop, also with the question of the possibility of stable biochemistry in a particular cloud layer given specific pressure and temperature.. isn't that the same question as oceans? Like deep ocean salt pools, do deep ocean acid pools also form without mixing with the other liquids of a given ocean. Whatever lives and dies above drops potentially useful byproducts into those pools where otherwise food might be too scarce
@W0A1
@W0A1 3 месяца назад
It would be arrogant to think not. I’m positive there could be life out there that consider water a very common resource and not necessarily valuable because of their distinct biology. Maybe they’ve got bodies made from stuff that takes billions of years of evolution or fabrication that no longer needs water and can utilize other source of matter that’s more efficient; much like car needing gas or electricity.
@scottmcdonald5237
@scottmcdonald5237 2 месяца назад
👽👽👽👽👽💥
@darthjarwood7943
@darthjarwood7943 3 месяца назад
Looking at our solar system it seems like planets and moons are like snowflakes and none of them are the same.
@rabidbunnies2
@rabidbunnies2 2 дня назад
That said, life is like snow. It will spit out any random flake it can manage. Some melt sooner than others.
@biosphere8488
@biosphere8488 3 месяца назад
When being pressed to define life, and saying "You will know it when you see it", it becomes similar to language people of faith use
@edwardbeksinski5810
@edwardbeksinski5810 2 месяца назад
Not really. A religious person would claim to know.
@biosphere8488
@biosphere8488 2 месяца назад
@@edwardbeksinski5810 yes really. The word similar is inherently flexible, within reason. Lol
@superkittyshow1782
@superkittyshow1782 2 месяца назад
Maybe alien life is plasma or gas..
@SnifferRiffle
@SnifferRiffle 3 месяца назад
Life is water so no
@tuomasronnberg5244
@tuomasronnberg5244 3 месяца назад
*Life is water on Earth
@73whitezz
@73whitezz 3 месяца назад
1st in. Nice
@UmmCarl
@UmmCarl 3 месяца назад
That has to be the singularly dumbest question ever on the internet since Day 1
@blaster-zy7xx
@blaster-zy7xx 3 месяца назад
I can never figure out why the Indian accent replaces Rs with “rolling” Rs. If I can do an impression of an Indian accent by replacing Rs with rolling Rs, I don’t understand why they cannot seem to be able to do the reverse. Can anyone explain this?
@higgsbonbon
@higgsbonbon 3 месяца назад
THEK EETH A THLICK GHLI
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 3 месяца назад
10 points for noticing.
@adolfodef
@adolfodef 3 месяца назад
[muggles can not see this] _"Please, tell us your Hogwarts House."_
@Toasty-du3fl
@Toasty-du3fl 3 месяца назад
methenogens
@Taipan108
@Taipan108 3 месяца назад
Your thleekith were so preoccupied with whether they thleek, they didn’t ghli to thlick if they hethleethik.
@jimgreen4504
@jimgreen4504 3 месяца назад
Great, another unintelligible scientist. 🙄
@dennisreed6345
@dennisreed6345 3 месяца назад
Why not don't you understand what they're saying
@LordSlag
@LordSlag 3 месяца назад
BRUH! At @16:50 I thought I was having a STROKE!
@adolfodef
@adolfodef 3 месяца назад
It seems The Reality Distortion Field was OFF during the production of that wallpaper... weird. -> It is in Sylvan (Fey Tongue). The Main Title is a reference to the Dreamlands. The Big Red Button is a command (to "Merge" or "Join" may be the closest translations). The Subtitle gives a reference to what will happen to those who follow. -> Under the Edicts of Lumen, to hold this knowledge from others forbids you passage to the afterlife. Spread.
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