Can Linux Save a 16 Year Old iMac?

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Today we're installing the latest Ubuntu Linux on the very first aluminum iMac, which is over 15 years old! We'll also see if we can upgrade the CPU, and stick an SSD in there. I'm sure it's going to come apart real nice and easy-like...
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@anderskirchenbauer3723 10 месяцев назад

It's an HD2000 series Radeon. You'll have OpenGL support, but Proton is using DXVK, which translates Direct3D to Vulkan. The card has no Vulkan support, you need GCN1+ hardware to do Vulkan in the Radeon series, so, running HL2 Linux native would've used the OpenGL that the GPU supports, but using DXVK was actually impressive achieving a framerate at all, since it would have been using the LLVMPIPE Vulkan software rendering. If this is one of the Macs with an MxM GPU module, you could try changing it out for a newer card, but I think sticking to OGL for things (which is the default in WINE) is probably more useful for this GPU.

@ActionRetro 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!!

@natejennings5884 10 месяцев назад

Among the reasons I dislike Macs. You can't upgrade the graphics cards so you're stuck with what Apple put in there - which is usually low balled.

@silitekmodder5681 10 месяцев назад

And some of those Radeons are unreliable, best replace all the thermal paste and putty

@tacokoneko 10 месяцев назад

technically it is also possible to compile Half-Life 2 fully from source code with a modern compiler and tweak the optimization. the term to search for that is "nillerusr" .

@stanb1455 10 месяцев назад

@@natejennings5884 unless it's MXM, but good MXM cards are essentially unobtanium (esp mac compatible ones)

@Clygro 10 месяцев назад

You don't need Proton for Half Life 2, as it's a native Linux game, it would probably be playable at full resolution. Also using snaps instead of native packages will also slow it down.

@lucyinchat 10 месяцев назад

don't *need* it, but it's still ok.

@CommodoreFan64 10 месяцев назад

@@hufftoon9683 Agreed to that, as SNAPS are sluggish, tend to be more buggie, a system resource hog, and are less secure, so I prefer native packages, but if I'm forced to use a universal package manager, and I've not found a reason yet on Manjaro GNOME, or Solus Budgie, it would be Flatpak.

@ok-tr1nw 10 месяцев назад

I believe that flatpak is leagues better than snap in term of speed

@CommodoreFan64 10 месяцев назад

@@ok-tr1nw Flatpak very much is, but I feel native packages are still better when possible for the best system resource usage.

@tacokoneko 10 месяцев назад

i made a script that purges all snap components from ubuntu and installs a version of firefox that doesn't pull in any snap-related packages.

@TheCoder55 10 месяцев назад

Best SSD installation ever. It’s indeed fine.

@iangoodsell 10 месяцев назад

“Engineering “ 😂

@tacokoneko 10 месяцев назад

test

@another3997 10 месяцев назад

@@iangoodsellDuct tape holds the world together. It probably won't help Elon Musk stop Twitter/X from falling apart, but SpaceX use it to hold their rockets together, politicians use it to reinforce their failing policies, and geologists have used it to stop continental drift. 😁

@photoniccannon2117 10 месяцев назад

I had to do this on an old Thinkpad T60 I was restoring. Bracket was mangled, so I just put a bunch of folded paper in there to apply enough pressure to hold it in place. That paper has honestly done a better job than the brittle half-shattered bracket that was in there previously. (Probably not the best for heat dissipation, but we're talking about a SATA 1 drive so heat is much less of an issue)

@fredklier 10 месяцев назад

I also like the x pattern, very important for the function. hehe

@fenixlolnope361 10 месяцев назад

These macs are amazing for actually getting work done in a studio no joke. Gets the adhd problem taken care of when no social media will load

@garbagedataraccoon 9 месяцев назад

LMAO, that's pretty true. When my wifi won't let social media load on my phone but it'll load Blackboard on my PC, I begrudgingly have to work on stuff

@sheik124 10 месяцев назад

You can probably eliminate the 1080p60 stutter on RU-vid with a browser extension called "Enhancer for RU-vid" (the icon looks like a magic wand on a red square). It has an option to completely disable VP9 and force H.264, which will limit you to 1080p60, but it's only a 1920x1200 panel anyways. That Radeon has HW H.264 decode but your Mac has to decode VP9 entirely in software, which is a bit of an ask for a CPU that old.

@tristansewell5986 10 месяцев назад

H.264ify-enhaced is my preferred option.

@bland9876 10 месяцев назад

Isn't 1920x1200 just the 16:10 version of 1080p?

@JeremyLevi 10 месяцев назад

@@bland9876 1080p would be more equivalent to 1680x1050 if you want to talk about standard 16:10 resolutions.

@Pasi123 10 месяцев назад

@@bland9876 Yes, 1920x1200 is just 1920x1080 but taller. 16:9 videos would play as native 1080p with black bars on the top and bottom on a 1920x1200 display

@bland9876 10 месяцев назад

@@JeremyLevi 1680:1050 is smaller than 1920:1080 so it's no good we need the 1080p video to be able to run at native resolution with black bars. I have a tablet with the 1920:1200 resolution and I used a second monitor with the 1680:1050 resolution so I have some 1st hand experience. The tablet is kind of weird though because the scaling actually makes monitors look like there is more room on them even though they have less pixels. So even though I have experience with both resolutions take it with a grain of salt.

@OShackHennessy 10 месяцев назад

I love when old machines get repurposed. There’s something magical about it and it’s sad that so many people throw them away.

@lucasrem 9 месяцев назад

DShack, Why you should still use it then ? magical needs, as a lamp ?

@fritsmolenaar05 9 месяцев назад

@@lucasremits not like it's unusable. This would be a great computer for a kid perhaps

@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy 9 месяцев назад

Feel fee to "throw it away" but make sure to "throw" it in my direction XD Yeah reminds me when I was in Germany I seen so many things thrown out I collected a lot of electronics then rented a van and took it home then fixed what needed fixing, cleaning etc then donated it to schools etc. Most of them were in perfect condition, a TV for example had only a broken remote that simply needed contact pads cleaning with alcohol and everything worked again as new. Imagine being so out of touch with reality to throw out a TV due to a dirty remote ... It really stressed me out thinking that was my one trip, imagine how many things being tossed out for DECADES just like that.... it's legit PTSD to me just thinking about it all. I hate people who are ignorant and wasteful.

@mclarenf1lm374 9 месяцев назад

Ages ago I decided to convert my age old originally xp, at that time windows 7 potato to linux ubuntu. I have not seen a more dramatic jump in performance and to this day I believe linux should be on every potato out there because of that. If it cannot run 10 whack linux onto it.

@pauz9776 7 месяцев назад

@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy just buy a new printer it cost less than buying ink ??!!!

@LuisMercadoorg 10 месяцев назад

Hey Sean, I suspect Ubuntu wasn’t using the correct card or the drivers were not adequate. That machine should be running some of those games without problem.

@TylerFurrison 10 месяцев назад

Also the card built into the system doesn't support Vulkan, and it's probably trying to use OGL and not DXVK. See pinned comment.

@piotrmazek540 10 месяцев назад

@@TylerFurrison The other way around, the games were running in Vulkan (DXVK is DirectX to Vulkan translation), in OpenGL they would run better. But something might be wrong with the drivers too, the OS doesn't seem as responsive as it should be, but it may be Gnome's fault.

@BryanGullickson 10 месяцев назад

@@piotrmazek540 honestly Ubuntu says they recommend 8gb of RAM so his better bet would have been using Lubuntu which instead of Gnome uses LXQT/LXDE much lighter I use it on a Telekin All in one for seniors which is the same as the Wow all in one Computer for seniors that Ken from Computer Clan covered last year I swapped it from tiny core to Lubuntu and it runs great

@red_ben3487 10 месяцев назад

@@piotrmazek540 if you're talking about the pointer jumping around like that it could be a driver issue, but being that the amd driver is baked into the kernel it's more likely just Wayland being Wayland with a bogged down cpu. X11 would give better results

@piotrmazek540 10 месяцев назад

@@red_ben3487 Oh yeah, forgot about Wayland being the default now, I'm still using X11 everywhere :p Sounds like that might be the issue

@Somelucky 10 месяцев назад

I used to repair these professionally. I don't remember having an issue with the hard drive bracket. The mechanical hard drive was the most common failure. The GPU was the next most common. The CPU/GPU heatsinks in line with the PSU usually caused the video cards to overheat with constant use. This design was changed as video cards required more and more power. The trick to keep dust from sticking when closing it static electricity control. Either use the official cleaning roller or carefully canned compressed air.

@CFWhitman 10 месяцев назад

Yes, a lighter version of Linux would most likely be a significant improvement on such old hardware. Also, RU-vid might work significantly better with the h264ify extension for Firefox. That old video card might actually have hardware decoding for h.264. By default RU-vid videos play with VP9, which is all software decoding for hardware that old. Of course, getting games to use OpenGL where possible would also help there.

@JoeEnderman 10 месяцев назад

Gnome is pretty heavy for old hardware. I'd say Xfce maybe?

@sketchiefello9002 10 месяцев назад

>joins LTT stream >types "computers" >does not elaborate >leaves

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Месяц назад

why does he not install a core 2 quad extreme cpu don't they work with the same socket as the core 2 duo?🤔

@chipandrews2892 10 месяцев назад

I have this exact same computer and I have been running Ubuntu Mate on it for several years. It is my go to computer for doing all my 3D design work and functions as good, if not better, than it did when the computer first came out. It is the maxed out version from Apple because I had actually ordered the older model when Apple contacted me and said they were not making that model anymore and they upgraded me for no additional charge to their newest iMac. I lived in Nome, Alaska at the time and believe it or not is showed up pretty darn quick! I am also running Linux Mint on my old 17" MacBook Pro. That computer is my daily driver for running projects in my shop. Love your channel and all the crazy cool stuff you do with old Macs!

@poeskey 9 месяцев назад

I love these older macs, the ones that actually can be upgraded. I still use my old mac mini as a NAS and plex server.

@steveb1972 10 месяцев назад

I’ve still got my Bondi blue 233Mhz iMac running 10.2, which I used to use as a music server.

@MaxOakland 10 месяцев назад

I have an iMac G4 and I use it to mess around with old applications and I want to get music on it and use it like a boom box or something

@davidbowne122 10 месяцев назад

I actually took an old 2006 MacMini, and using DOSDude's memory mod was able to get it to use 4gb of RAM (with a CPU upgrade (Intel T7400) ). After putting in an SSD, was able to get it to dual boot Linux Mint and Windows 10. It seems to work fine with both for web browsing, and light modern tasks.

@Lerod_Driger 10 месяцев назад

I have a MacBook Pro from early 2011 model. You inspired me to install Linux on my MacBook. I have tried the latest Ubuntu build on it, system stability was an issue. So then I tested another Disro of Linux, and Linux Mint cinnamon edition works WONDERS on that system. I would suggest you try it too. As a side note, Linux Mint also has other versions that can run on older hardware or different levels of system resources. I also did have to install the proprietary wifi drivers and connect it by LAN cable to get it to work.

@TurdInternational 10 месяцев назад

Mint works wonders on damn near anything. It is based on ubuntu, but for whatever reason, it seems to run _way_ faster, and Cinnamon is closer to Windows, which means less time figuring out the intricacies of the DE.

@dradpa 10 месяцев назад

Can you put the MacBook to sleep/standby? I tried other linuxes on my white MacBook 2009 but battery drain, heating, and sleep were three main issues which prevented me from installing it permanently.

@Lerod_Driger 10 месяцев назад

@@dradpa I am able to put mine into sleep mode with no issues, even the sleep mode light glows like it should. As for the heating issue? Yes that is an issue, but I find using an external laptop cooler helps. The kind that you sit the laptop on top of and plug it into power and it helps cool the underside of the laptop.

@jaqian 10 месяцев назад

Linux Mint is amazing, it's bitlocker support is better than Windows lol

@chrisanemone 10 месяцев назад

My 2010 has Mint on it. I tried Fedora which had super slow wifi until I jumped through some hoops and installed the Broadcom drivers. I tried Debian which had no wifi so I had to tether to my phone and install the broadcom drivers. Mint had slow wifi and a one click option to install the Broadcom drivers. So nice. I just wish the nVidia drivers didn't cause a black screen so I could get some 3d acceleration.

@VladoT 10 месяцев назад

The yellow streaks in the screen is dust collecting between the LCD and the backlight plastic sheets which requires screen dissasembly to be cleaned. It can be delicate but doable without damaging the thin flex cables.

@kreavitawastaken 10 месяцев назад

you could probably make 1080p60 work with a little extension called h264ify, it forces youtube to use the widespread h264 video codec instead of AV1/VP9, of which this mac probably has no hardware decoder built in.

@barrynevio4440 10 месяцев назад

I have a bunch of these from an old job many years ago, I gave most of them away when El Capitan was the latest OSX, but I still have a couple that I use for exactly what you're using this one for. Running a pretty lean Arch Linux it does the job and Parsec to do games, it serves its purpose pretty well.

@snowdog993 10 месяцев назад

I think you should have used velcro 2x4 inch for the ssd. Works great and won't get all sticky stuck.

@billfusionenterprise 10 месяцев назад

great fro baby kittens too (Garfield)

@snowdog993 10 месяцев назад

@@billfusionenterprise Yes!

@marklechman2225 10 месяцев назад

I ran Ubuntu on my old Mac Pro for a few years, it was a great alternative as the Mac was so old it couldn’t run a new enough MacOS to even use a modern web browser. Got Steam up and running on it and ran a few low-demand Linux games. It was pretty great.

@CodingItWrong 10 месяцев назад

The timing of this video is great! I just picked up an early 2009 aluminum iMac at VCF Southeast on Saturday. If I had known they're usually free I might not have paid for it ;-) But this one is in good condition, which is good as I'm not a hardware person. I was able to get Linux Mint installed on it, and your package reference about the wifi drivers was super helpful. This is my first dedicated hobby machine and I'm looking forward to finding out what I can do with Linux and Haiku on it!

@billfusionenterprise 10 месяцев назад

Sad that what should be free and widely get isn't. Finding 10 year old hardware on the various sites with price of modern hardware is so sad

@95Comics 10 месяцев назад

This is my daily driver. I use mint tho. I love this machine, it’s basically my tv!

@95Comics 10 месяцев назад

1st comment! Woohoo!

@chrislinuxtutorials5283 10 месяцев назад

@@95Comics Actually, it's not first

@MitchMatrixx 10 месяцев назад

Sean, I thought it's worth mentioning that: That Core2Extreme isn't the highest CPU you can go with for that model. I have a 7,1 myself running Fedora 38 on spinning rust. My plan is to upgrade to a Penryn architecture C2D with the faster (800mhz) FSB. This would be the same recommended CPU required for the DosDude macOS upgrades for unsupported hardware. Caveat being that these are actually pricey chips, and most of them seem to be in China. This model also supports 6GB of ram. It won't take 8GB, and Apple only officially says it supports 4GB, but OWC has a 6GB ram upgrade made for this model. You should be able to find a way to get Linux (and newer macOS) running fairly smoothly on that machine if you're willing to keep throwing some money at it.

@jsnotlout3312 3 месяца назад

I just found your channel and im so glad. I love putting linux on old computers, I love giving them new life. Its super fun

@dave4shmups 10 месяцев назад

Great video! It’s pretty cool that the DVD drive on this old iMac still works.

@BrianJones-wk8cx 10 месяцев назад

I have the same model-minus the beefier processor-and I use mine as an excellent retro emulation device running Snow Leopard. Using individual emulators (rather than RetroArch for performance reasons) and a slick front end (the name escapes me at the moment), the machine works like a charm. It can also easily boot and work well off a Batocera install, running everything up to N64 without too much trouble.

@RonLaws 10 месяцев назад

I strongly recommend using a different Distro, Linux Mint Cinnamon or XFCE edition would work way better, use the built in driver manager in mint under the administration menu to detect and install any missing drivers (Wifi and Microcode probably) and use the System package version of Steam, Vulkan won't work on that old GPU, stick to WineD3D Launch options and Native OpenGL Games. You might even get 1080p video playback :) Also heads up, in steam's settings, try enabling Hardware Acceleration and disable GPU Blacklist, I suspect the forced default software rendering on steam client is chewing up some sparse CPU cycles!

@75slaine 10 месяцев назад

Did the SSD upgrade on this machine back around 2012 which gave it a whole new lease of life. Handed it off to my parents for their general mail/browsing. Eventually after being so out of date upgraded them to an M1 Air with external monitor and have this in my closet. I did the same Ubuntu install on it about 2 months ago and was delighted to see everything was supported and just worked. Trying to decide if I'll put it one of my kids rooms as a RU-vid machine.

@mikkelnatas 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video! Thanks so much for doing this!

@UltraFicus 10 месяцев назад

This was the first ever computer i used when i was like 3. I remember playing so much flash games on this

@asystole_ 2 месяца назад

my 36 year old ass reading this

@francisbartholomew7816 10 месяцев назад

After the last video you did for linux+mac, I realized my old 2008 mac mini fit the bill. So, I dropped 22.04 onto the thing - shoved it full of a new 500GB SSD and upped it to 8GB of RAM because even though the docs say it only goes up to 4GB, after a little noodling around online (and in my parts bin) I had the right kind of memory in the right amounts.

@PaintedSky 9 месяцев назад

Oh shoot I have an old Mac Mini of a similar vintage, maybe I should do the same. It's just collecting dust at the moment, might make a good media pc or something

@akxdev 10 месяцев назад

Very cool. I have one of these sitting in my garage. I love your playlists, btw.

@akxdev 10 месяцев назад

Your profile photo reminds me of MySpace in the best possible way.

@yesterdaysjam2405 10 месяцев назад

It looks pretty good with the aluminium front fascia removed. Maybe you could get a clear front made to show off the internals.

@simonro9168 10 месяцев назад

I had the exact same thought, it looks so dope! Though a quick google didn't yield results for a transparent case :(

@horacegentleman3296 10 месяцев назад

Would be very easy to have a piece of acrylic laser cut to fit

@aytviewer2421 10 месяцев назад

I'd try Zorin OS 16.3 LITE, which I believe does use XFCE. It looks nice and is snappy on an older 11-12 year old Dell laptop that I use it on.

@matthiasmartin1975 9 месяцев назад

Zorin looks hideous compared with gnome3 on ubuntu or debian. It really shows that they don't have any money to pay an artsy person to work on the appearance bits.

@aytviewer2421 9 месяцев назад

@@matthiasmartin1975 The XFCE desktop environment puts performance on older hardware over and above aesthetics. The goal in this video is to run a functional and snappy OS on older hardware. This is not about installing an environment to test eye candy on the latest PC build with a $1K+ GPU.

@raxelgrande 10 месяцев назад

I managed to revive a Core 2 Duo 2009 iMac with Manjaro Xfce, worked wonders. It even detected the network adapter correctly.

@pum6454 10 месяцев назад

I would love to see a similar video like this with the emac, my personal favorite mac

@babyboomertwerkteam5662 10 месяцев назад

The eMac uses a 32-bit PowerPC processor which no mainstream distribution supports.

@userperson5259 10 месяцев назад

I loved the eMac. Those things were just neat.

@BilisNegra 10 месяцев назад

@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 No MODERN mainstream distribution, Ubuntu had an official Power PC version up to 14.04 LTS from 2014. There's still an unofficial Ubuntu Power PC community supported thingy though.

@renanbach 10 месяцев назад

Debian

@LellePrinter82 10 месяцев назад

I rescued the same model of iMac as yours last year. The glass was missing and the screen works but has some scratches but it works. Also rescued a 27 inch late 2011/early 2012 iMac and the glass was missing and the screen was cracked and and had some bent corners as if the previous tried to bend to remove the screen. So I removed the screen and used the displayport on the back and connected it to a monitor and it booted as it should. I'm not entirely sure if i'm going to replace the screen (if it's worth it) or transplant the parts to another case. I'm pretty good at modding. Great video.

@Anu4ManU 8 месяцев назад

Interesting. For one of our executives in my office, installed Linux Lite. It was 7 years old laptop & was painfully slow. Works pretty fine now.

@tejasraman6913 10 месяцев назад

Oh, the good old 2007 iMac. I was doing “student IT” at my old school and they had one of these running Snow Leopard. I put KDE neon on it. Probably still runs well to this day as a library catalog with Data Crow :D Although I still recommend Fedora (or Debian 12) Ubuntu is ok… it’s full of snaps and bloated though. And KDE is way lighter than GNOME (it’s less ram heavy than xfce and many of the effects that are not needed can be disabled to make it even better, although I left them on on that iMac)

@babyboomertwerkteam5662 10 месяцев назад

Less apparent RAM use does not magically equal faster performance. Plasma is a mixed bag - the panel and Kickoff are quite slow but KWin is pretty fast. Xfce is fast all around. GNOME performs about the same as Plasma does in their default configurations - it *is* true that you can make Plasma have the edge by turning off a bunch of effects (the blur effect especially kills old GPUs), but I've never, ever been able to make Plasma run as fast as Xfce on low-end hardware. (The hardware in question being a junky old Intel Atom netbook.)

@tejasraman6913 10 месяцев назад

@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 I’ve never experienced that on the aforementioned 2007 iMac (or any other slow hardware I’ve had to deal with).

@JM-tj5qm 10 месяцев назад

@@tejasraman6913 I have seen plasma struggle on old hardware. It might have gotten better, but I wouldn't say plasma is way lighter than Gnome. Both are pretty demanding.

@zuur303 10 месяцев назад

The glare from the glossy glass drove me from the iMac. I did have the white first Intel iMac but went with a mini, so I could chose my own matte display. Now a 2019 Mac Pro so eventually another mini or Studio 🎉

@nticompass 10 месяцев назад

Hell yeah, live WAN Show from LTX! I was in the audience for that stream! 😀

@yeshi3522 10 месяцев назад

leaving a lot of performance on the table by using ubuntu. would recommend linux mint or manjaro for such a system

@BilisNegra 10 месяцев назад

Maybe a good option, but that will not improve YT reproduction, for instance.

@raskolnikov9067 10 месяцев назад

I had that exact model back in 2007. The 24" monitor felt enormous.

@MrLardmonkey 10 месяцев назад

This is some good stuff, I love slapping Linux distros on old tech.

@roberthazelby4424 10 месяцев назад

I have a 2008 Core 2 Duo MacBook. I’ve upped the RAM to 2 gigs and installed an SSD. I have Linux Mint running on mine. My machine gets taken to Amiga events. It’s a great system for storing loads of Amiga files on. I use it to transfer files to and from the Amiga using compact flash.

@jamesdecross1035 10 месяцев назад

At least you've got one of those early iMacs that did have a magnet-screen, not the glued and bonded screen of the slightly later ones.

@xykla86 6 месяцев назад

Thank for this video, i did it too, b43 for wifi was a big help!

@joecan 4 месяца назад

I used an intel iMAc similar to this to replace my pi in my DIY mame standup. works well for 80s/early 90s titles and arcade roms. and that glass covered screen is just wonderful.

@zaxchannel2834 10 месяцев назад

You might be able to replace the optical drive with yet another SSD with the right bracket, I did that with laptops. If it has onboard wi-fi that could possibly be upgraded as well. I'd consider velcro perhaps over just duct tape. I'm curious if it can get up to a core2 quad

@JimmyDoresHairDye 10 месяцев назад

I have a 2008 iMac. It was sitting in storage for years when I took it out for a Covid lockdown project. Maxing out the RAM and replacing the 5200 RPM HDD with an SSD turned it into a nice 24" basic internet browsing and school work machine. I gave it to my niece and nephew and while they don't use it much anymore, it still serves those functions well.

@JimmyDoresHairDye 10 месяцев назад

7200RPM*

@KaitenKenbu 10 месяцев назад

Windows XP saved all my old iMacs recently purchased just for the purpose of installing XP and LANing with the boys. So easy to store and will play pretty much all XP era games without fuss. Two 06 polycarbonate one being early core duo. Great speakers on those. Three 08 24" less great speakers but the ati x2600 easily plays rainbow six 3 and battlefield 2. Two 09 21" are just a good size. Will be using this video as a guide on what to expect installing linux on a 2,1 MBP 17". Great channel thanks lots of fun inspiration thanks. Gonna be trying windows 11 on a 1,1 also for kicks.

@spencerharding 10 месяцев назад

I'm literally doing the same thing right now! Unfortunately, some of the iMacs I've collected have dud CD drives, and I've tried every possible way of installing XP from a USB stick that I can find without success... So I'm currently sitting in front of a 2009 27" iMac running PopOS waiting for steam to download Left4Dead...

@KaitenKenbu 10 месяцев назад

@@spencerharding same thing happened to me. was unable to install xp via usb drive. Luckily one of the 08 iMacs had working optical and same specs so a storage swap was easy. And the 06 polycarbonate ones I ended up swapping optical drives. Bit of a pain but was able to get them all sorted eventually. Good luck on the linux

@Springboi8389 10 месяцев назад

I recently installed Kubuntu 23.04 on my Mid-2010 MacBook Pro, and it does work surprisingly well, even after having to install the packages required to get Wi-Fi up and running properly, said packages being the only things I had to download through Windows 11 on my Surface Laptop 2, since I didn't have access to an Ethernet cable.

@archlinuxrussian 10 месяцев назад

Those old Macintosh computers are still useful, though The pre 2010 ones are less so. Colonics really can breathe new life into these machines, bringing them as much security updates as possible and allowing them to do basic tasks like 1080p streaming and music playback. One quick note: I would suggest going endeavor OS before going Manjaro. Just better general project management and security practices in my opinion.

@notNajimi 2 месяца назад

I was looking for a good arch based distro with an installer recently and I might have to give Endeavor OS a shot, ty for mentioning it

@archlinuxrussian 2 месяца назад

@@notNajimiEndeavourOS is great. It can be *slightly* clunky during installation (though I haven't installed it in a while so it may be just 100% fine now!), but it's rock-solid otherwise.

@melbutterworth7976 8 месяцев назад

In the future I'd reccomend getting some cheap suction cups with the locking handle. two in diagonally oppsoing corners will make job of getting the glass off very easy for a fraction of the cost of the special tool

@melbutterworth7976 8 месяцев назад

I have one of these that I've turned into a monitor for a modern computer. I just gutted the machine and replaced the computer bit with a special board that converts the display ribbon connector into hdmi, vga, etc. Probably the best monitor I could get for less than £100.

@xFEARxPHOENIXx 2 месяца назад

First video I watched from this RU-vidr. Love his personality. It’s a sub for me brah!

@MickeyMishra 10 месяцев назад

Its kind of weird that a modern day phone can do so much more than a 2007 Computer at a FRACTION of the power. I'm thinking that as far as these models go in the future? If you want to do an Easy way to make them usable? Something like Remote Desktop sure works a treat. Been doing that with my old chromebooks to tap into my Xeon workstation to edit videos and do transcoding while out on the deck smoking a cigar. Pleasantly surprised by how good the old version is! It just works great with HARDLY any lag noticeable. Since all its doing it just displaying video, (Something almost all computers are capable of doing) seems like the perfect way to keep the aesthetics, and enjoy the modern.

@RildoDealdough 10 месяцев назад

YOU WERE IN A BAND??? Sounds good ngl for 2000s Emo music

@jarant5732 10 месяцев назад

Thanks! Really enjoyed this! Ubuntu! Yeah :) What SSD did you use that worked on this?

@axllebeer 10 месяцев назад

Thinking of installing Ubuntu on some older MacBook Airs I have laying around. Thanks for the video!

@RNRiderStudios 10 месяцев назад

Happy 200 Vids!

@eriksiers 10 месяцев назад

I have the smaller version of this iMac. The hard drive died several years ago and I just ran a Slax livecd for a couple years. Now it has an external (Firewire) HDD running MacOS 10.6 and it's just fine.

@steelsofliquid 10 месяцев назад

13:00 - I've managed to get RU-vid to work on Windows Vista more recently, so seeing it working on an iMac from around the same time period was really nice to see! I've been wanting to get RU-vid to work on Windows XP, but don't have quite the viable hardware yet, as my only capable XP units are an HP Compaq 6005 Pro with XP Pro SP3 and a Gateway 566GE with XP Home SP2.

@eDoc2020 10 месяцев назад

If you have a PC with Windows Vista from about the same time period there's approximately a 100% chance it will work perfectly with XP. Actually the HP 6005 is such an example. The dual-core AMD should be sufficient for playing YT video.

@HoloScope 10 месяцев назад

I take these apart all the time at work. I've gotten to be pretty good at it. They usually sell for about 20 bucks or so.

@animatewithdermot 10 месяцев назад

I did something similar with my 2007 era Inspiron 1720, not exactly top of the line even then. Tried Ubuntu (works OK) but prefer Mint (tried XFCE, then settled on MATE). As you've foudn out, works perfectly fine for youtube, watching vids, but definitely does not like enjoy 1080p! 720 or lower and it's totally fine, and nice to be able to use again.

@jpino528 9 месяцев назад

The most professional repair. I give 10 of 10. I would buy again.

@MendenLama 10 месяцев назад

In 2020 I used Lubuntu on a Core 2 Duo iMac (2008 version) with 2gig of ram. Worked fine, so I gave the machine an additional 2gig ram stick. Lubuntu (as well as Xubuntu) discovered all hardware parts, the built-in camera, the microphone, even discovered my printer on the network. I tested several other Linux distros, too (Mxlinux, Opensuse, Zorin OS Lite for instance). But Ubuntu and its derivatives seemed to have the best out of the box hardware support for this kind of machine. NomadBSD, a lightweight FreeBSD live version, didn't like the hardware as well as GhostBSD which stumbled over the graphics card. There were two limiting factors: a slightly flickering screen and the spinning harddrive.

@plovkaa 9 месяцев назад

i love videos like this they're so fun for what

@sugargliderdude 10 месяцев назад

got the 2009 model, snow leopard came out later in the year, happy days

@JoshuaBoyd 10 месяцев назад

I was wondering what vacuum cleaner you were using. I looked on your amazon tools list and that wasn't one of the items on it.

@estrollojr 10 месяцев назад

I have one of these Mac. Batocera with ps1 and prior games work perfectly!

@FlintG 10 месяцев назад

Thats cool, my mac mini from 2012 still runs great with ubuntu linux on latest firmware as a backup computer. Its still on the hard drive it came with but its just fine though.

@Geardos1 10 месяцев назад

used one of these in university upgraded to 3gb ram, was a very reliable computer for the 3 years I used it heavily, ran windows xp great in boot camp also.

@005MDS3 10 месяцев назад

Can you make a video about this iMac but running macOS Monterey or Ventura using OCLP? It would be great to see what the newer macOS feels like on that.

@fuelvolts 10 месяцев назад

It has a GPU that doesn't even support Vulkan or Metal. Even if you could get it running a supported MacOS, it would run without any video acceleration and be unusable.

@jondonnelly4831 10 месяцев назад

Dortania Opencore works great to make the latest macos install on unsupported older hardware. I think a Core2 duo is too old though, but it worked for me on my 2013 macbook air which only has 4gb ram etc and it's quite responsive and still in daily use.

@tristansewell5986 10 месяцев назад

OCLP does support the iMac7,1, with some caveats

@billfusionenterprise 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video, it is nice to know these old iMacs can be useful, Nice looking hardware and shame that they can't be used

@michac3796 10 месяцев назад

That hole to your right in the wall... I actually flickd my screen thinking there's a bug on it.

@felizago 10 месяцев назад

I’m rocking as a daily driver a 2006 iMac 20” running OpenBSD 7.3 for C++ and go. Besides the wi-fi and bluetooth not working (openbsd’s lack of support, not the mac), everything runs silky smooth.

@TrustJesusToday 10 месяцев назад

I'm running Ubuntu Budgie 23.04 on a 2017 iMac. Practically perfect in every way.

@vgtheory 10 месяцев назад

I have the slightly smaller version of this gen iMac I inherited from my late father. I had some luck with Fedora until an update killed that installation, and then I moved over to Bunsenlabs which is a streamlined Debian distro, and that's seeming to work well so far. I have yet to find a distro that will let me suspend without corrupting the display upon resume, which is a bummer, but at least Snow Leopard still runs like a champ in dual boot.

@outtakontroll3334 4 месяца назад

i'm watching you on a 2008 version of that, with os x 10.11 still daily driver, does all i ever need to do.

@cfg83 9 месяцев назад

Thanks! Gonna do this to an A1311 soon.

@keefhk11 10 месяцев назад

Interesting thanks. Is there a video on the actual installation of Linux on the iMac?

@Ghozer 10 месяцев назад

I had one of these iMac's with a Core 2 Duo E8420 (or whatever it was, C2Duo E8400 Equivelent) and a 8800GT - that thing was a beast at the time :D

@anythingunderthesun2245 10 месяцев назад

you got me with the title. I thought this is Linus vid. but nice content. Carry on

@JohnSmith-xq1pz 10 месяцев назад

You're a professional, a shenanigans professional 👍 Edit So THAT was you on the WAN Show chat

@javacaffeine 10 месяцев назад

I never realised that you only have sub 100k subs, you deserve more, bud!

@jlj945 10 месяцев назад

The 2007 can be upgraded to a penryn, and go past 10.11 if you wanted. also, I played new vegas in Wine under Mojave on my MacBook 5,2 and it was perfectly playable. Not sure why that was running so bad.

@macintalkshow 10 месяцев назад

Tangentially related: The 2012 Mac Pro is extremely upgradeable and still very useable. I got one on eBay for a pittance, threw 96 gigs of RAM in it, an RX 580 GPU, and I bought the best possible processors for it (two 6-core 3.46 GHz Xeons, can't remember the exact model number) for $70 for the pair. Swapping the CPUs is not hard but does require specific allen wrenches. I've got it running Monterey flawlessly. My 2012 Mac Pro, now fully kitted, scores 678 single core, 6969 (nice) multi. For reference my 2021 M1 Ultra MBP scores 10,051 multi. So the eleven-year-old Mac Pro is pulling almost 70% the performance of my relatively current MBP. That's just nuts. Also as an unapologetic 31-year-old emo hipster, I must say, I added your old band to my Apple Music library and I'm listening to it now and it's pretty damn good. :D

@Gamerbay2017 6 месяцев назад

What's crazy is almost the same time this video came out I received a near identical Mac. Mid 2007, 24" Core 2 Extreme, 4GB RAM and an OCZ SSD (240GB). It runs Mac OS X 10.6 (although I'm going to load up 10.7 soon) and it's a great CD player!

@2048Megabytes. 10 месяцев назад

I installed Ubuntu on an old iMac 24 inch from 2009 and it’s so much better than macOS. Having actually working apps is pretty nice

@tk421dr 10 месяцев назад

great video, just wana say man im so glad for proton. running linux on my chromebook so i can play civ 5 at work, best way to kill time.

@aaroncheah2088 10 месяцев назад

I turned one into a monitor for my 2012 Mac Mini.

@hammersampson 10 месяцев назад

I have one of these old iMacs and have discovered that the latest version of Windows 10/11 aren’t compatible with the Boot Camp drivers. Causes the machine to reboot on startup, until you get into the Windows recovery menu.

@rickyt11010 10 месяцев назад

Lubuntu worked great on my 07 imac. Raspberry pi os works amazing also with how lightweight it is

@AemVR 10 месяцев назад

I'm using one of these, right now! ripping a bunch of CDs for my 5th gen iPod classic lol

@dctaken 9 месяцев назад

I have one that I installed ubuntu on it but left it sitting on a shelf. Upgrading what I can on it will be a fun project.

@kuro68000 10 месяцев назад

How do the speakers compare in Linux and MacOS? I seem to recall that a lot of Apple speakers need a very specific EQ to sound their best, and only MacOS has it built in.

@XyNoST 10 месяцев назад

hahahaha this is totally how I installed the SSD in the All in one I am using right now. Good old duct taoe ftw ! Keep up the good work my man ! :)

@drmarkuswinter 8 месяцев назад

I installed Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon on an old 2007 24in 2,4 GHz Core2Duo iMac (model iMac7,1) with 4 GB RAM and its original 320 GB hard disk. I'm blown away by how FAST it is! I didn't think it would work, but it even played x265 encoded movies smoothly without a hitch. A modern, capable, secure operating system with current software (LibreOffice, Firefox, etc) running on a 16 year old Mac like it is a brand-new computer - I'm VERY, VERY impressed. There is the occasional driver to install (eg my Wifi wasn't recognised) but a quick search found a suitable driver.