I attempted a 30 mile ride on an annual group ride in Idaho. Mostly single track with about 7 miles of fire road. Lots of up and down and plenty of technical stuff.
This is exactly what I needed to know. Real world experience. I really appreciate you posting your experiences on RU-vid, Please keep it up. This is super helpful to people thinking about making the switch to electric. I have already dove in, but there are heaps of folks understandably on the fence and this is helping them make an informed and unbiased decision based onreal world experience. It is awesome to hear this stuff from a long time dirt biker.
Took my first Ultra Bee ride on 6-9-23. Took my 15th ride yesterday. Live in Hood River, Oregon. Have 261 miles on it so far and it continues to exceed all of my expectations. My rides are mainly on tight, twisty single track that is rocky and rooty with lots of ups and downs. Never rode it with the 19 inch tires. Bought the KKE 18/21 wheelset from Charged Cycle Works. Had 18/21's on my previous Light Bee and loved them. Have a 54 tooth sprocket and roller chain on order. Still have not figured out the range yet. Yesterday rode 27 miles and had 29% battery remaining. Nice to see that you easily made 30 miles!
I am at a 109 miles and have had it for 3 weeks and also never rode it with the 19's. Your range should improve quite a bit with the sprocket and change upgrade. This bike loves the tight techy stuff. Happy riding Henry!
Thanks, this is really helpful. I was thinking about upgrading my modified Talaria MX3. I regularly get 30+ miles on steep, rocky mountain trails here in NZ with my 60V 72Ah chi battery so maybe not worth it. Cheers
lovely video, lovely nature .. reminds me a lot of the nature I'm regularly fighting with on a the Balkan (particularly: Furska gora) .. on a mountain bike though (as in bicycle) .. nope not kidding, and yes I can see how steep this is from the trees, and of course going slower than this .. but have to admit, in sincere admiration, I'm impressed an electric bike can even take this in the first place 💜
This content is so great - helped us make the decisions to buy a pair of ultra-bees this morning. Thanks for the great content…ours will likely be ridden on more gentler terrain :)
I'll echo what some of the others who have stumbled onto your Ultra Bee content have said and thank you for sharing raw, real-world practical examples and insights. I'm an avid mountain biker in Arizona but we also have some family property in the woods where family members ride their dirt bikes. I've never owned one but ride a little bit, but don't appreciate all the noise they make on residential portions of the fire roads we use them on. I'm considering a similar setup to this as my first dirtbike purchase to enjoy the trails earlier mornings before the gas bikes and side by sides get out there, but also need to be able to keep up when my in-laws bring their 250s up, etc. It's exactly this kind of content and feedback that helps with the research and purchase decision. Cheers from the desert!
The bike is so nice, would love to try it out. The light bee already feels so nice. Cool track, good riding too! And that was eco most of the time? And: aww, sweet grey fluffy cat 😌
Purchased my Ultra Bee this past weekend after watching your videos. My first ride on single track in Montana I went 23 miles with a little over 5,000 feet of climbing and had 47% battery left when I returned to the trailhead. What a blast this bike is! Thanks for sharing your experience so far!
Really glad I could help and super happy that you are stoked on the bike. The range is no joke! They are pretty amazing and even my gasser friends that I ride with are impressed.
Looks like an absolute blast! The obvious limits of electric are range and heat. There’s a RU-vidr on O’ahu that rode some nasty trails and was constantly passing all the gas bikes that were stalled on hills or crashed. Electric is just easier. And for a lot of riders, they don’t have the time to develop the skills to fully enjoy a gas bike. These electric bikes let you get out there and just have fun. You can also ride pretty much anywhere any time. Do it on a 2 stroke and you end up with angry neighbors, security, police, etc.
I honestly can't say that I have had any heat problems with the Ultra or the Bee and I have ridden hillclimbs on 90 degree days. They really are cheater bikes for sure, especially with the trials tire hybrid on the rear! Last weekend I rode with a pack of riders and started out towards the rear being that I was by far the oldest and I was riding with a bunch of young bucks. By the end of the day, I was leader of the pack as everyone realized I was the fastest of the group. That ride will post in the next few days.
Brother, that’s great you got 30 miles with the stock battery! I wonder how many kilowatts you were using on the power setting. In sport mode I could be wrong but I think it peaks around 175 DC amps. Are you running the Michelin star cross five or six?
I only used Sport mode on the initial hillclimb at beginning of video. Other than that is was all in "Daily" No Eco. I am running the Starcross Soft 5 and have for many years.
question do you feel there enough power or do you wish it just had a little bit more ? and if only they had a clutch like the emotion bikes . great video
In sport mode, I am very happy with the power and do not see any need for more. ( 0-54 in about 5 seconds) I looked at the E M's close and rode one. I do not miss a clutch at all and I think it is more weight and 1 more thing to wear out or break. In sport mode this thing will pop just like if you had a clutch. Thanks
I get the same hard enduro range on oem stock tires/rims and chain. 100 to 0 would be about 37-38 miles for me (same as you). Perhaps the regear completely compensates for the 18/21 wheel/tire combo? I'm about to put on my 18/21 combo without regear and retest. Did you adjust your computer for the rear wheel at all? My 18 with IRC JX8 is about an inch taller than stock 19. I also have mousse in the 21/18 which will add more weight where it hurts the most.
I do have my speedometer recalibrated to .08. It's not perfect, but pretty close. It will be interesting to see what your new range is with wheel change only. My range was not impressive. The gear and chain change is what brought the range back to what you are getting. I never ran the stock wheels myself, so never knew what enduro range would be.
3 Hours and that was with 18 riders and start and stops plus waiting at the top of the hillclimb for everybody. I would say about 2 hours of pure riding time.
Have you had a chance to ride the small class electric bikes like the Talaria Sting MX4 or the Light Bee X? I already have a Husky 250 four stroke, so I’m debating between the Ultra Bee and the Talaria Sting for trail riding and playing around on.
@@schreddersworld1050 and knowing what you know now about both and having some good seat time on the Ultra Bee, if you had to pick one of the two now which would it be?
I am in Hayden Idaho and have been thinking about one of these. Do you run it in Daily mode or Sport mode most of the time when you do your range tests?
Picked up my Bee. Has 8 miles. I’m getting error code AL 128 - “REGEN malfunction” and trouble shoot it says “check battery temperature and battery voltage”. All my regents are set on 4/5. It isn’t warm up here. Any ideas? Or how to check voltage?
I did not know al was for error code. Mine sometimes says al 117 To check voltage you can use a volt meter and check where you charge through or unplug battery and check there. Where do you get the codes from?
It certainly doesn't lack power on the hills. If anything it is the rider. I am also running a trials tire which is not optimum this time of year. In previous videos you can see where this bike was actually doing better on the hills than gas bikes. It is also a lot steeper than it looks through the GoPro.
Personally, I think your percentage is a little high. I am riding with very competent riders and am usually in the front group or in front period. They actually like my bike and have a lot of respect for it. To say this is not a real bike is a little ignorant. Just saying
Your ignorance shows that you think this is not a real bike. This is superior to has bikes in every way save one, nearly instant range extension. But if you really need range you can get a second battery and still be under what a new gas bike costs.
To each his own Mike. I know of no dirt bike in the world that can do 388 miles on a tank of gas. I also doubt that you could ride much more than 30 miles with the kind of riding that I do.
@@schreddersworld1050 I agree. True enduro riding I can't imagine running a full tank of my 500. I am usually tired and ready to head home after 25-30. But I'm old and fat lol.
@@schreddersworld1050 out of curiosity, what it the felt weight like on the Ultra Bee? I've wondered if without it haveing a fuel tank up higher if that makes it "feel" a little lighter than it's advertised weight? Or still pretty similar to a regular ditbike feel?