Can Newcastle spend now PSR issues are fixed? 

Where was the FA's Fair Market Value scrutiny for NUFC when Ashley paid the club £1m per year for Sports Direct sponsorship (for over a decade)??? 🤬

What is the absolute rubbish. Nufc lost their sporting director because Man U illegally tapped him up. The completely broken psr rules meant that Newcastle a team with zero debt had to sell young talented players whilst Man U a team with hundreds of millions of debt didn’t. Selling those players went to the wire as the necessity to sell was ‘leaked’ to the press making their negotiating position impossible. As for the sudden concern about ‘player welfare’ amazing how this is suddenly my an issue. Newcastle auctioned a player and sold him to his preferred club for less than was offered elsewhere. Dont remember this concern being levied at Chelsea who invented this awful system of selling homegrown talent. Disgraceful narrative driven hatchet job. Unsubscribed.

You can literally see when Levy's words fall out of Ornsteins mouth.

I would like to know where Ornstein got that bs that Newcastle told Minteh would be in development squad from????? Eddie Howe had always said we wanted to look at him in pre season

Cashworth wasn’t just digging up weeds he was in contact with other clubs whilst being on gardening leave that’s really shady and should be looked into

60 mill for Isaac 😂😂😂😂

What i found remarkable was, when David Ornstein was spouting his nonsense about Newcastle United threatening players to go and how Dan Ashworth was unfairly put on garden leave for being a snake and trying to weasel his way to Manure United, Chris Waugh (supposed Newcastle fan), sat there and nodded his head like a little bitch!

I think nufc were relying on better European performance, European qualification, almiron moving in Jan and Wilson and trippier leaving at the start of the summer window. Almiron said no to Saudi in Jan and the Saudi window hadn't opened by psr deadline. Shame minteh had to go, would have liked to see him in a toon shirt. Anderson leaving isn't the end of the world, good luck to him. Psr is a joke. Clubs without debt forced to sell prospects and key players. Villa heading into champions league having to sell. All the teams with psr issues are not in financial trouble, they're teams where owners are pushing for success that doesn't suit the likes of manure, Liverpool, arsenal and Tottenham. Psr should account for debt not just profit and loss. Manures debt is probably in the region of 3x what pif bought Newcastle for

Psr is total bull

seems like the premier league forever want us fucked over, 1m to sports direct every fucking season no one bats an eye lid, nothing ever happens for him never putting money into the club, and as soon as we do we have too much money, takes the club a fucking year to let us have it taken over and then we can’t spend because we aren’t allowed for reasons made up by them🥴

Clubs whingeing about these swap deals are likely the ones using legacy merch sales and in debt. None of the cubs involved are at risk of going Portsmouth so the deals and unwanted player movement wouldn't exist if PSR wasn't there in the first place

Ayo's eyes when Chris said £50-60 million 😂👀

New here. Not sure if I should subscribe. It was great then ornstein turned it into a Man U podcast. Is this normal going forward?

The only reason the big 6 clubs are whingeing about these deals is they prevented the vultures from picking off their best players at bargain prices. I say well played by all as not one profited from the rules they invented.

Honestly who cares if we were in this situation. We all know the name of the game with ffp is to play games and pull as many tricks as you can out of your sleeves to get the most for your money. We see teams like chelsea, man city, etc play these games all the time and now we are. I say until the owners give us a real reason to doubt them, just be along for the ride when it comes to ffp.

RE: NUFC, psr is a disgrace, it's all been a mess I really doubt minteh would be playing in the reserves had he not wanted to leave

Psr is ruining the game and not fit for purpose

The Chelsea Villa deal is baiscly just a repeat from the prev. years. People forgot Chelsea bought Carney Chukwuemeka 22/23 for 18mil. Now Kellyman same age and almost like to like positions for 19mil. Only difference is that Carney had 300mins in the EPL. So its hard to argue Chelsea "overpaid". Or something is fishy with valuation of the involved players.

There is no integrity in our football finances, currently it helps the top 4 maintain the gap between every other club, shambolic and the tail wagging the dog

Great question! Thanks for bringing this up, it really makes you think about how they got their calculation so wrong.

Why do you need half hour podcast to say yes or no

When the owners are consistently telling us we have to be careful about PSR then overspend by 60 million it’s a bit hypocritical

Change the rules so that to register a player the buying club have to provide full breakdown of the costs of a transfer. So, how much is being paid to selling club, player, agents plus any other 3rd parties and when they are being paid. Then both the selling and buying club have to reflect those costs in the club accounts.

Segment with a Newcastle United journalist... Ends the segment by talking about Man U transfers.....

Does this reset PSR? Like do we not have to worry until 28/29 or is it rolling so same time next year we may have a problem?

I thought this was about Newcastle not Manure?

There’s always ways round it look at Chelsea and the 8 year contracts good on them for finishing ways round it

1) What collection of idiots placed the PSR deadline in the middle of a transfer window? 2) How are clubs meant to make long-term plans when the financial rules change in some aspect every time the clubs meet? Does anyone in the administrative structure of the Premier League have a clue?

I don’t believe for a second that Minteh was told that if he didn’t leave, he’d be stuck with the reserves all season. They’ve been pretty transparent in the fact that they don’t want to lose young prospects and also want a new right winger. They wanted to keep him but PSR got in the way.

No we dont need any more rules around sodding transfers its daft enough tp start with

Don't blame the clubs, blame the Premier League. That is where questionable integrity should levied.

Utter tripe this, in one breath you said they’ve been working on it for weeks and in the next you say they’re scrabbling round in a couple of days. YOU are creating the panic for fans, no one else. The level headed of us know deals rarely get done until the last couple of days anyway.

Some ridiculous claims from these guys, they act like they have a spy in every club and know exactly what is going on at all levels. While they are posting articles about clubs activating bruno's release clause after it has already expired, and saying we are looking at goalkeepers after we have already signed two.

A lot of the fans are just saying why are people not happy about the situation being negative about this but it’s not negativity it’s just how lucky we were to get away with this

David isn't quite correct in saying that in any other industry a deal would be made to let an individual go. In the UK if an executive resigns to join a rival, usually they'll serve their gardening leave either until a) their full time replacement is found or b) the period of notice expires. It's not uncommon for exec level staff to have 12-24 month notice periods. It's also not uncommon to have restrictions on movement (say your new office, or in the vicinity of it) and restriction on who you can talk to (new employer, and their staff, your existing clients etc) to whilst on gardening leave. What is unusual in football is the concept of a financial buyout for someone in this position. Ashworth signed his contract knowing he had a 24 month notice period, and an £20m buyout. Ratcliffe appointed him knowing the same. Ashworth didn't have to leave, and Ratcliffe didn't have to appoint him to the role. Newcastle tried but didn't appoint a replacement. Ratcliffe publicly complaining about the situation only played into Newcastle's resolve, never mind Ashworth's behaviour before resignation and after being put on gardening leave. Ratcliffe publicly claimed how unusual the situation is, however when he has appointed senior staff to work under him at Ineos, the process in the first paragraph has been followed. Why the media parrot his line is either a) naïve journalism, or b) purposely furthering Man Utd's agenda. If you want to see things done professionally and properly, compare how Man Utd / Ratcliffe have behaved in the past four months, and how Newcastle behaved when appointing Ashworth from Brighton. Ashworth's challenge at Man Utd will now be being able to live up to the 'world class' hype that Ratcliffe has built him up to be. He certainly did not behave or perform in a world class manner at NUFC, but given the low bar Man Utd have had prior to his arrival, I guess anyone competent will appear to be a top table appointment.

Player swaps, higher than average fair valuations, convenient deal time frame before June 30, academy players, all allowable by the PL. Begs the integrity, transparency and honesty as PSR regulations are circumvented. Some teams faced fines or lost points and lost money due to final PL standing. Further checks and controls are needed.

Minteh surely would have been in contention for a starting place in the team, particularly in his position on the right of a front three, so I think the idea he would have been in the development squad is questionable at best. It's a shame he had to be sold and we couldn't get other players out the door (e.g. Almiron, Wilson) beforehand. Anderson leaving is a shame as a Geordie lad, but £35m is a lot of money for him and another injury-plagued season aside, we have more cover in the areas he plays in.

Ornstein can say what he wants about poor Dan Ashworth not being able to work after going behind Newcastles back but if Man U had went through the correct channels and offered decent compensation for him there wouldn’t have been an issue.

Completely agree with your view of psr David

The £105 million limit needs adjusted for inflation. The price of players has increased but the limit has not

PSR is solo job is to protect the 'big 6'. I'm glad to see the outsiders working together to overcome a corrupt system.

Bizarre that clubs in massive debt like Man Reds can spend whatever they like. PSR is just a way of funneling good players to the Super league clubs. This interview made sense when it was about Newcastle, and nosedived when it became about Nooocarsullll (and then greater Manchester reds)

Thank god we've not had to sell Almiron 🎉

Watching this whilst reading Barcelona have accepted a raised offer for Raphina from Newcastle 😂😂😂

Can we get a video on Villa please? Tonnes of transfer business done and a lot of players have come on since the start of last season, not to mention the PSR challenges

So we can spend?

It appears Newcastle overspent by £60M, or the cost of Alexander Isaac. Admittedly it's been a mess but ultimately we've got back or outlay for a net spend of £7.5M and AI is now worth £120M plus. We've turned £7.5M into £120M.😊

All because of PSR & FFP, all to protect the shifty 5 and Spurs.. It's grossly unfair that a club has to sell young talent. Can't spend and invest in the team. We had no saleable assets, Hendrick, Hayden, Fraser.. etc are worthless.

No mention of the fraudulent valuations?

Thought it was about the Toon but Ornstein hijacked it to talk about Man Utd

My God you can almost taste the salt oozing from these jokers with regards to Newcastle. Please cite your source for telling him he would be playing in the u21”s . Teams with debt should be hit hard

could the psr drama be because we didnt make Euro comps. i think that man u knocking us out of europe caused this weekend

PSR is not fit for purpose - scrap it. If it doesn't happen get the lawyers in. Football is a business and investment is up to the owner not a Cartel. UK business law trumps any EPL rules.

Thanks for not answering the question in the title whatsoever and proceeding to talk about Uncle Jim's Manchester Reds (again). What a worthless 34 minutes of pure waffle

Turned off after the Minteh in the reserves comment 💩💩💩

Probably not the FA will find another way to stop teams competing against the golden clubs

Mitchell signs today and this shows you guys didn't have a clue. How's that for your "optics"😂

Ornstein is clearly on the Utd payroll 😂 is he “best in class” too?

Clubs are learning from Chelsea

Man U, same circus different clowns but all their fans and journalists will tell you its different.

Logan Costa Arouna sangante. RCB options.....

David quoting a lot of here say and not much truth

An important factor these guys 'forgot' to mention is that the Guimarães release clause expired a mere 6 days before the PSR deadline. If this clause was triggered it would have generated £60M - £67M profit. As it happened any deals done after June 25 were always going to appear to be a bit chaotic.

Hah what a clown ornstein is, also £60m for isak? We paid £63m for him. The ignorance of these chumps. The guardian newspaper of football podcasts, not a compliment by the way 😂

Its a disgrace psr

Nothing shifty going on... nothing to be seen... move along! 🤣

bad journalism, one sided propaganda

In other works is not football he signed a contract and he knew the terms. David accused NUFC of player welfare but gave no evidence just said reports. And where has man ure information come into this. Absolute joke unsubscribed

Nice anti Newcastle podcast. Talking about player welfare and forcing Minteh out - players have had the choice to move or play in the development squad/reserves for years. 1 min in and Ayo saying £60m for Isak - come on man, we paid £63m and he's set the PL on fire, he's worth £100m+ at least!

Yeah! players "treated like a slave" Please come back to planet earth - name a slave earning over a million a year. Stop the "poor players" rant, these people are amongst the most privileged young men in the world

Blaming psr when newcastle knew what the rules are

Great job by Ashworth 😂 please feel free to enjoy his mediocre performance Man Utd 😂 The set of “best in class” will be complete when they find an excuse to replace EtH with Southgate 😂

All the salty Newcastle fans 😂

Such a unacceptable slanted podcast . .. what about the tapping up , Salah a slave too ? Utd a billion in debt ? Nufc are a well run professional club with happy players and we turned Gordon into a star.

Newcastle fans must love hearing about all the appointments and moves being made at my beloved MUFC

Scares me the idea that the 100m sell on clause on Bruno G was actually what the executives wanted

Well done Ayo. At last someone has the balls to ask how NUFC got themselves into this mess. It’s amateur beyond belief. The club need to explain. 😩

Ornstein you have lost the Newcastle fans!!! NEVER LET THE TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY, what a prat!!!

Normally like the athletic but this cast was utter 💩

Nobody told Newcastle to spend £70m on Isak which no other club competing with them could do.

What utter biased rubbish.

They owe the fanbase an apology, imo ! It should have never gotten to this stage ! Edit: The points would of been better to take imo

PSR is top 6 joke

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