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Can Postecoglou make Spurs top four contenders? 

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@steerj07
@steerj07 6 месяцев назад
Is that not exactly what Spurs are currently?
@promethesured
@promethesured 6 месяцев назад
no
@steerj07
@steerj07 6 месяцев назад
@@promethesured If the team in 5th and over the last 15 years have been in around the top 4 constantly are not 'contenders' then what is?
@WillishBroadbino
@WillishBroadbino 6 месяцев назад
Right?!
@TheWefikus
@TheWefikus 6 месяцев назад
Yeah Im perplexed as to what they think contenders means?
@SUB_THEORIES
@SUB_THEORIES 6 месяцев назад
Exactly
@GogoVictoria
@GogoVictoria 6 месяцев назад
@5:38 - Gianni Vio was an offensive set-piece coach. He didn't do defensive set pieces. The issue is defense where 14 goals have been conceded in some form. Still not the worst team in the league and even Villa have conceded more... Just needs to be much better.
@guy4375
@guy4375 6 месяцев назад
I agree with much of what is discussed in this pod, its very measured. You bring up a good point about Gianni Vio, I think as fans our set-piece defending is appalling (3rd worst in the league before Sunday and 3rd worst at attacking from set pieces) and where our biggest frustration lies. If we just improved in this one area (not even to an elite level just mid table improvement on set pieces) then we would have potentially 10 more points, that makes us outside challengers still!!! There is still much to be done on building the squad but everything I've seen in the big picture is very, very positive.
@juz882010
@juz882010 6 месяцев назад
@@guy4375 whats bizarre is when he was coaching the socceroos... set-pieces were one of our weapons... Jedinak scored many.
@ZPSBestProfileName
@ZPSBestProfileName 6 месяцев назад
Maybe if Arsenal had 2 weeks to prepare and Spurs had 4 matches in the preceding 2 weeks with lots of pressure on this game, maybe Spurs wouldn't have looked so good. Why do you think Chelsea looked so good against an exhausted City last weekend?
@nickfenn
@nickfenn 6 месяцев назад
Aren’t spurs forever stuck in a limbo state of always being in contention for top 4? Isn’t that the issue?
@bahatig562
@bahatig562 6 месяцев назад
As an Arsenal fan, Ange has been class. I have found myself respecting Spurs slightly because of him. I look at Liverpool with admiration because of Klopp, and Ange carries the same level of Charisma that makes me appreciate even little things like derby day pettiness. If Spurs get rid of him, it would be laughable but the man is certainly class and has them playing in a manner that even I am weary of, dare I say even entertained by. Urgh, that felt horrible to write!
@alexkcchung
@alexkcchung 6 месяцев назад
Same here, but Ange just made them look so much better than what they are, play a high line and roll the dice
@juz882010
@juz882010 6 месяцев назад
@@alexkcchung the big problem he has is no tricky wingers... in all his squads he had weapon wingers who scared their defender to the point they wouldnt go forward... he desperately needs that in his team atm. Teams are happy to sit off spurs as they cant score. They arent scared of them.
@calumjunior7748
@calumjunior7748 6 месяцев назад
Funnily enough it’s the main reason I don’t like Arsenal. Arteta is weird.
@JLaw012
@JLaw012 6 месяцев назад
I agree they are better to Watch, that being said I’m not sure he is tactically inclined enough to be able to push his team to the top. He plays his way and teams are working him out. If he does not change then he will be found out.
@TheWefikus
@TheWefikus 6 месяцев назад
Word. If I were Jim Ratcliff, I’d try and poach Ange from Spurs. Even if it costs millions and selling a first born to Levy. And if that offer does come, Ange must take it. Spurs are going to chew him out. Their level of ambition is measured by wanting to stick it to Arsenal. It’s in the DNA. He can’t do anything, and they don’t deserve him.
@chockingninja7676
@chockingninja7676 6 месяцев назад
Remember when the athletic voted kai harvetz as worst signing..😂 how time flies
@conorgray6883
@conorgray6883 6 месяцев назад
Some of their journos were tipping spurs for the league after the first 5 games 😂
@00dude3
@00dude3 6 месяцев назад
That was football agents surveyed. Who clearly don't know much despite working in the game
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
they have an anti arsenal bias.. look how long it took them to finally admit that arsenal is decent. then with spurs from the beginning of the season they were so convinced by ange and the quality of the team, meanwhile since matchday 11 they have displayed midtable form.
@Ryan-ys2bq
@Ryan-ys2bq 6 месяцев назад
The Athletic in general are hipster picks the NFL guys are just as bad.. analytics analytics analytics without knowing the game
@crayontom9687
@crayontom9687 6 месяцев назад
I think Ayo is an Arsenal fan? Very professional performance in the circumstances 😂
@stephenphilippslfcfan
@stephenphilippslfcfan 6 месяцев назад
Ah makes sense aha he was finding it difficult at some moments so far, Im a fair way through the pod and seeing it now aha
@snowman01
@snowman01 6 месяцев назад
If that game was replayed 10 times, Spurs are winning more than 5 times. If you watched the game, reviewed the stats and xG, there is _no_ _way_ you can say Arsenal weren't lucky and Spurs were unlucky. Credit to Arsenal, I'm just saying quit this basic narrative of "Ange needs another way to attack". Please analyse matches with more depth logic and less about "outcome bad, therefore team bad".
@mavrayne
@mavrayne 6 месяцев назад
lol the copium is exquisite !
@richardjames123
@richardjames123 6 месяцев назад
When you perform well for just 10 games at the start of the season, it's called a New Manager Bounce. They never last and aren't indicative of any long-term progression.
@leomac3464
@leomac3464 6 месяцев назад
The two weeks off doesn't help spurs. The lack of games during the season has gone against players searching for consistency. The terrible first half starts seem to be symptomatic of the lack of sharpness and match conditioning. You can see the players trying hard to find form and second guessing themselves, hence the lack of bravery. I'm skeptical THFC can finish the season strongly.
@jackh3071
@jackh3071 6 месяцев назад
Postocoglou had a much better team in his first season compared to klopp and arteta so it’s not comparable
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
was the league in this same state when arteta took over? chelsea in disaray, united as a mess, newcastle unable to build on from what they had last season, brightons collapse, west ham being poor etc. the middle of the table has had sheningans this season, spurs could easily be 9th had some of their opponents been less injury riddled and generally less poor.
@homelessdude5705
@homelessdude5705 6 месяцев назад
@@USER06584B ??? Arsenal finished 5th, 2 points behind 3rd place Chelsea the season prior to Arteta's arrival.
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
@@homelessdude5705 and why did he arrive? were arsenal looking like they were about to have an amazing season? this is legit is first season with a squad mostly of his own desired players, arsenal had done a massive clearout, and the prem was more top heavy back then. look at the state of chelsea, united, and even honestly spurs right now verses spurs back then.
@noname-ju5gn
@noname-ju5gn 6 месяцев назад
had klopp had this squad in his first season he is reaching top 3.
@homelessdude5705
@homelessdude5705 6 месяцев назад
@@noname-ju5gn Sure buddy
@guy4375
@guy4375 6 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed this, just very ballanced from two of my favourite football people (Seb & Jack).
@DoFi12
@DoFi12 6 месяцев назад
So..can Ange take them to a place they find themselves every year?
@fonejacker0
@fonejacker0 6 месяцев назад
What about last season?
@danogunner
@danogunner 6 месяцев назад
As an arsenal fan, this is the first spurs coach that I like. They’re lucky to have him. He’ll get them up again
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
you didn't like harry redknapp? for selfish reasnons AVB is one of my favorite spurs managers... absolute banter era for spurs.
@zavtradnem
@zavtradnem 6 месяцев назад
3:0 of course you like him.
@danogunner
@danogunner 6 месяцев назад
@@zavtradnem I like that he doesn’t make excuses. He acknowledges where his team and he failed and he praises where the opposition outclassed them EVEN though he could easily have pointed to both the offside VAR and possible pen issues as excuse (see Ten Hag as exhibit A - that mofo is STILL talking about Garnacho SA’s offside goal against arsenal 😂 what a noob)
@healthymindhealthybody9324
@healthymindhealthybody9324 6 месяцев назад
Impressive discussion, great to hear football discussed in such a cerebral way
@homelessdude5705
@homelessdude5705 6 месяцев назад
Gotta love how gooners rush to watch videos about Spurs here faster than genuine Spurs supporters do.
@thegreenfingers6766
@thegreenfingers6766 6 месяцев назад
I DONT THINK SO AS LONG AS THEIR PRIORITY TARGET IS "ARSENAL". OTHER TARGET IS ONLY SECONDARY
@teamgb1587
@teamgb1587 6 месяцев назад
Seb talks all the sense! 7:33 … it’s a process and small pieces added to the puzzle will enable progress
@joeparker6774
@joeparker6774 6 месяцев назад
100% agree, seems like the only one that actually watches spurs
@Ledanielooo
@Ledanielooo 6 месяцев назад
Spurs sympathy session!
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 6 месяцев назад
Here's a better question: what if we come out if the Chelsea match with a draw or close loss but NO injuries and suspensions? THAT'S what killed the momentum, not outsized expectations.
@kingofdogshite4163
@kingofdogshite4163 6 месяцев назад
So Villa who don’t have FFP issues would sell one of their better players to a team that will probably finish below them? Very hit and miss with the analysis at times. So contradictory.
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
have you noticed their spurs bias. it makes no sense. they are convinced by the ange project in a few games, with arsenal and arteta even last season they didnt believe it, even as this season started they were so quick to dismiss arsenal until like february. its very bizzare. even their analysis on united is very like eh, i find united fans are actually more insightful, or just watching the games.
@TheLizardKingC
@TheLizardKingC 6 месяцев назад
He's not actually lamenting about Romero's red card against Chelsea right?
@threadboi2300
@threadboi2300 6 месяцев назад
I don't know, but you know what? You should keep having the exact same discussion every month.
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418 6 месяцев назад
Its not that Spurs are too structured and need mavericks, its that they only have ONE structure. You're blaming the players for not being spontaneous like your Center back recing to be a striker, leaving a massive hole in your back line isnt a a good thing and could've gone horribly wrong. There's no helping spurs fans honestly
@Elite_Alpha_Male
@Elite_Alpha_Male 6 месяцев назад
Wait, spurs unlucky? No. Their goal was offside, and Kulu knew he wouldn't get the penalty. Spurs first on target was our error to their goal. We deserved to win, 3-0 first half, and errors were gifted.
@lukingforabettername
@lukingforabettername 6 месяцев назад
High Line 4 Life Mate
@knutjonsson1816
@knutjonsson1816 6 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@00dude3
@00dude3 6 месяцев назад
The mental gymnastics going on to say spurs were the better team is insane. They scored a penalty and a goalkeeping error ffs
@Amberle38
@Amberle38 6 месяцев назад
Media darlings. Always have been, always will be. Probably because they're back to being entertaining without anyone being even slightly worried they might actually win something 😂
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
all the videos they had about the NLD have been framed around spurs, even the one they released before the game. idk if spurs is paying the athletic or what. and also its often clear they dont watch a lot of the teams they may often talk about. i remember they were talking about johnson as if he isnt all that good which is absurd, especially given his age, and his numbers aren't too bad, especially considering the way they have changed around their frontline throughout the season.
@markbranigan
@markbranigan 6 месяцев назад
A bit of a silly tagline. Spurs are already "contenders" for 4th place. Whether they finish there or not does not change that fact
@juz882010
@juz882010 6 месяцев назад
He will need a tricky proper world class winger... maybe the young swede might come through... but he needs a 20 goal striker, needs new FBs, another 6 who good on the ball. He should go for Sancho.
@Fpl8646
@Fpl8646 6 месяцев назад
Tottenham fans peak achievement since birth, is hate watching Arsenal. Must be cold in that trophy room
@zavtradnem
@zavtradnem 6 месяцев назад
oh so you're a trophy fan. must be american burger boy.
@zavtradnem
@zavtradnem 6 месяцев назад
Unlucky yesterday but we surely on downward spiral with big Ange. His limitations are becoming too obvious.
@tzetv
@tzetv 6 месяцев назад
Myopic
@tomeggleston367
@tomeggleston367 6 месяцев назад
Amazing how much criticism Ange is getting…don’t forget Klopp or Arteta’s first EPL position. We lost Kane ffs, have a new GK, new defence and new midfield, and we are already competing for top 4, despite the video’s title… Klopp, Arteta & Pep have ALL benefited from having their own system and tactics developed over time (and persisted with!). Yet we lose and the media shouts our system is broken and we need a plan B 🤦🏻‍♂️
@stephenphilippslfcfan
@stephenphilippslfcfan 6 месяцев назад
True it took Klopp a little bit and as an Aussie myself Ill back Ange for u guys, "mate" aha. Sorry stuck in the mind saying "mate" ehe
@Dionysus66
@Dionysus66 6 месяцев назад
With time Ange’s Spurs will come good.
@DidYaServe
@DidYaServe 6 месяцев назад
Lo Celso is a bizarre one. He's potentially world class but he needs to be backed.
@gtr5973
@gtr5973 6 месяцев назад
They are literally contending for top four already.
@RandySnortin
@RandySnortin 6 месяцев назад
There not really they blew it
@Ryan-ys2bq
@Ryan-ys2bq 6 месяцев назад
@@RandySnortin7 points off 2 games in hand… unlikely but if win all but 1 they probably get it as Villa will drop points
@Patrick-li7yl
@Patrick-li7yl 6 месяцев назад
Ange is so overrated out of both cups in first round and has no plan b
@USER06584B
@USER06584B 6 месяцев назад
not to mention that spurs havent been too great since like november.
@Patrick-li7yl
@Patrick-li7yl 6 месяцев назад
If we had beat Burnley only would have 4 points off them and were shit🤣🤣🤣
@Untold-Football
@Untold-Football 6 месяцев назад
Can you please ask Jack if Arsenal are back?😅
@noname-ju5gn
@noname-ju5gn 6 месяцев назад
Stop comparing klopp first season which wasn't even first full season as he joined in november. liverpool squad was very poor compared to current spurs and we had european football which they reached final of. ange had full week rests for last 6 months
@jaxyjoe
@jaxyjoe 6 месяцев назад
Nice to see them doing an equivalent pod for the team actually in 4th… oh wait. Big 6 bias yet again. Sort it out Athletic. Be better.
@dharris-rd2md
@dharris-rd2md 6 месяцев назад
Bit insecure mate just enjoy ucl. Plenty of talk about villa if you look for it
@MindSurf248
@MindSurf248 6 месяцев назад
Bot drom Athletic, last pod discussing Villa was 50 minutes of them saying we had no chance against Arsenal. Then never to mention us again, even when discussing how Arsenal's chances were at risk of been derailed by the result ​@dharris-rd2md
@Amberle38
@Amberle38 6 месяцев назад
@@dharris-rd2md He's right though, if any team outside the top 3 deserves a ton of praise this season, it's Villa all day every day over Spurs.
@dharris-rd2md
@dharris-rd2md 6 месяцев назад
@@Amberle38 This wasn’t really praising spurs and there’s plenty out there bigging up villa. Either way, it’s still insecure to whine about it under a spurs video.
@jayLo28829
@jayLo28829 6 месяцев назад
Don’t get the narrative that spurs were unlucky. Arsenal literally gifted all their goals, and had more chances to score. Romero hit the post. That’s it.
@jmo4952
@jmo4952 6 месяцев назад
Yeah Romero missed 2 free headers, a goal narrowly ruled out and a possible pen all in the first half. That's as many chances as Arsenal had in the whole game, they simply took their chances.
@Taecoconut
@Taecoconut 6 месяцев назад
Tottenham also gifted Arsenal 2 goals as well
@simisuperstar4794
@simisuperstar4794 6 месяцев назад
8:00 (in the voice of Brian Clough) "Young man, Arteta won a trophy in his first season whilst the spud won nowt"😂
@Mark-99999
@Mark-99999 6 месяцев назад
Spurs had 2 weeks off!! Arsenal are miles and miles ahead of Spurs
@jmmeares
@jmmeares 6 месяцев назад
I emplore any one to find a Spurs fan who wants to make a "statement" win against City. The whole crowd will applaud City goals if it keeps Gooners from the title.
@sah8956
@sah8956 6 месяцев назад
I don’t any spurs fans that want to win against Man City unless Arsenal have already bottled the title.
@WaniZame
@WaniZame 6 месяцев назад
It’s not better than Klopps first full season. Klopp came to a team in mid-table in late October, it’s not comparable stop peddling this fake narrative. Arsenal fans did it with Arteta and now you are doing it with Ange.
@ijl-cy9pp
@ijl-cy9pp 6 месяцев назад
Spurs thinking they're signing Jacob Ramsey and or Connor Gallagher 😂😂
@-VForValhalla-
@-VForValhalla- 6 месяцев назад
‘Lads, it’s Tottenham’
@Ryan-ys2bq
@Ryan-ys2bq 6 месяцев назад
You mean the team that is 5th with 2 games in hand, that was in pole position for 3rd last year until the Conte drama started and finished top 4 the previous season…. Of course they are as Ange is god or the 2nd coming of Pep according to the pundits on the Athletic this season, if they aren’t then Ange isn’t that great…
@Mark-99999
@Mark-99999 6 месяцев назад
Doesn’t matter what competition your jt did when they had a chance
@5678hgvhjkjnbnm
@5678hgvhjkjnbnm 6 месяцев назад
How have they glossed over the refereeing in this game so quickly, was a farce
@NinjaBobPlays
@NinjaBobPlays 6 месяцев назад
He already has. What even is this?
@DeanoTHFC
@DeanoTHFC 6 месяцев назад
This was a terrible Chelsea team with 70% of their first team out injured and we hardly laid a glove on them!.. A pathetic performance…. It’s so obvious that the team are now struggling to buy into Ange’s tactics. There’s not creativity in attack, the midfield are nonexistent or tripping over each other because they don’t really know where they should be, and the defensive play it quite literally Sunday league stuff!.. And all this with what is in my humble opinion a good squad of players!.. Especially defenders!.. Ange keeps telling us they don’t have many matches, well why the hell isn’t he working with the team to irradiate the most basic of issues?.. I’m sorry to say and obviously would love to be proven wrong but I feel the Premier League is a stap too far for “Ange-ball”!..
@user-Griezman
@user-Griezman 6 месяцев назад
메디슨 다음 시즌에 레스터시티로 가세요!!
@craigosborne3260
@craigosborne3260 6 месяцев назад
Not a chance of now Watch out as you could be dropped down to 6th or lower Come on Aston Villa
@phillyflyboxing
@phillyflyboxing 6 месяцев назад
Answer: NO THE END...
@Thebearmre7
@Thebearmre7 6 месяцев назад
Vio only did attacking set pieces by the way not defensive. Mila sucks at his o job he is one dealing with defensive cost us maybe 10 points we 3rd worst in league
@Gunnercoops
@Gunnercoops 6 месяцев назад
Only top 4 I thought all the pundits feel he’ll win the premier league for them 😂😂😂
@robbob1436
@robbob1436 6 месяцев назад
HaHAha - good 1!!
@jamesmccreery250
@jamesmccreery250 6 месяцев назад
Will spurs lose to Man city on purpose?
@irksumable
@irksumable 6 месяцев назад
god damn! look at their glum faces! LMAO
@muhammadmurtaza6630
@muhammadmurtaza6630 6 месяцев назад
SEB!!!!!!
@jimmyf1446
@jimmyf1446 6 месяцев назад
Damn jack you're clueless no one including the players want arsenal to win the league. If they could beat Liverpool and lose to city they'd take that
@bunkiebunk
@bunkiebunk 6 месяцев назад
As long as spurs fans wouldn't be so reactionary and fickle and stick to a orogram for once, only then we will win titles
@chubbygreyhound1198
@chubbygreyhound1198 6 месяцев назад
Not sure but he’s probably a contender for top 4 highest volume of Deliveroo orders by one person in a year.
@pauricmurphy5698
@pauricmurphy5698 6 месяцев назад
All Spurs did yesterday was huff and puff 😮 got gifted 2 goals and only in the last 5 mins did they try 😮
@homelessdude5705
@homelessdude5705 6 месяцев назад
What about Arsenal? One lucky own goal due to Højbjerg being thrown off balance by Tomiyasu and Saka's goal resulted directly from a Michael Oliver brainfart.
@thejoulesthief6841
@thejoulesthief6841 6 месяцев назад
The Michael Oliver brainfart? You mean your own brainfart thinking that’s a foul lol
@homelessdude5705
@homelessdude5705 6 месяцев назад
@@thejoulesthief6841 How's that not a foul?
@zavtradnem
@zavtradnem 6 месяцев назад
Disalowed milimiter offside goal and 3 posts and 70% possession is what again?
@zavtradnem
@zavtradnem 6 месяцев назад
@@thejoulesthief6841 entire SKY team called it a pen. American clown
@drk2079
@drk2079 6 месяцев назад
No. Next video.
@alexkcchung
@alexkcchung 6 месяцев назад
Spurs beating city ? 😂 dream on
@RandySnortin
@RandySnortin 6 месяцев назад
Nope, still shite. Had there chance this year utd n chelsea are gonna be stronger next year + newcastle
@nliewhf
@nliewhf 6 месяцев назад
Errr….No.
@agill2103
@agill2103 6 месяцев назад
All pl teams want to dump players in saudi aabia. 😂
@palaneproductions7357
@palaneproductions7357 6 месяцев назад
CO$$$Ta lotta....it's possible but depends on Levy opening the wallet!
@ntokozomlotshwa6925
@ntokozomlotshwa6925 6 месяцев назад
sinc whn is a high lin a tactic, cz thats all h offrs
@dooda77penn19
@dooda77penn19 6 месяцев назад
No, He's clueless.
@zhilong
@zhilong 6 месяцев назад
Nope, thanks for the video.
@drunkenork5373
@drunkenork5373 6 месяцев назад
He's a fraud and needs to go now before we waste another transfer window buying the players he wants for his laughable system.
@user-ug6mh1qo6x
@user-ug6mh1qo6x 6 месяцев назад
Postecoglou is one trick pony. Don't expect much from him.
@simonyap4660
@simonyap4660 6 месяцев назад
No.
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