Can Postecoglou make Spurs top four contenders?

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Arsenal were too much for Tottenham in yesterday’s North London derby, running out 3-2 winners at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. After the games, Spurs boss Ange Postecoglou said his team needs to deal with the “details” to be contenders.
So, what exactly are the fine margins they are missing?And will it be enough to get to the next step and challenge next season?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's Jack Pitt-Brooke and Seb Stafford-Bloor to discuss.
00:00 Intro
00:36 North London Derby review
04:14 Ange Postecoglou at Spurs
07:26 What is the Tottenham Hotspur project
14:26 How will Spurs end their season
18:38 Does the squad need depth
20:34 What the summer looks like for Spurs
26:02 How much can Spurs spend
29:11 Outro
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@steerj07 Месяц назад

Is that not exactly what Spurs are currently?

@promethesured Месяц назад

@steerj07 Месяц назад

@@promethesured If the team in 5th and over the last 15 years have been in around the top 4 constantly are not 'contenders' then what is?

@WillishBroadbino Месяц назад

Right?!

@TheWefikus 29 дней назад

Yeah Im perplexed as to what they think contenders means?

@Antsoner1 29 дней назад

Exactly

@GogoVictoria Месяц назад

@5:38 - Gianni Vio was an offensive set-piece coach. He didn't do defensive set pieces. The issue is defense where 14 goals have been conceded in some form. Still not the worst team in the league and even Villa have conceded more... Just needs to be much better.

@guy4375 Месяц назад

I agree with much of what is discussed in this pod, its very measured. You bring up a good point about Gianni Vio, I think as fans our set-piece defending is appalling (3rd worst in the league before Sunday and 3rd worst at attacking from set pieces) and where our biggest frustration lies. If we just improved in this one area (not even to an elite level just mid table improvement on set pieces) then we would have potentially 10 more points, that makes us outside challengers still!!! There is still much to be done on building the squad but everything I've seen in the big picture is very, very positive.

@juz882010 29 дней назад

@@guy4375 whats bizarre is when he was coaching the socceroos... set-pieces were one of our weapons... Jedinak scored many.

@ZPSBestProfileName Месяц назад

Maybe if Arsenal had 2 weeks to prepare and Spurs had 4 matches in the preceding 2 weeks with lots of pressure on this game, maybe Spurs wouldn't have looked so good. Why do you think Chelsea looked so good against an exhausted City last weekend?

@chrishalious8194 Месяц назад

As a player 2 weeks without a game is not that good for a team rest is not what you looking for

@chockingninja7676 Месяц назад

Remember when the athletic voted kai harvetz as worst signing..😂 how time flies

@conorgray6883 Месяц назад

Some of their journos were tipping spurs for the league after the first 5 games 😂

@00dude3 Месяц назад

That was football agents surveyed. Who clearly don't know much despite working in the game

@USER06584B Месяц назад

they have an anti arsenal bias.. look how long it took them to finally admit that arsenal is decent. then with spurs from the beginning of the season they were so convinced by ange and the quality of the team, meanwhile since matchday 11 they have displayed midtable form.

@Ryan-ys2bq Месяц назад

The Athletic in general are hipster picks the NFL guys are just as bad.. analytics analytics analytics without knowing the game

@nickfenn Месяц назад

Aren’t spurs forever stuck in a limbo state of always being in contention for top 4? Isn’t that the issue?

@crayontom9687 Месяц назад

I think Ayo is an Arsenal fan? Very professional performance in the circumstances 😂

@skim7221 Месяц назад

Could see the arsenal pov creeping out but keeping it in as well.

@stephenphilipps3360 Месяц назад

Ah makes sense aha he was finding it difficult at some moments so far, Im a fair way through the pod and seeing it now aha

@guy4375 Месяц назад

Really enjoyed this, just very ballanced from two of my favourite football people (Seb & Jack).

@richardjames123 Месяц назад

When you perform well for just 10 games at the start of the season, it's called a New Manager Bounce. They never last and aren't indicative of any long-term progression.

@leomac3464 Месяц назад

The two weeks off doesn't help spurs. The lack of games during the season has gone against players searching for consistency. The terrible first half starts seem to be symptomatic of the lack of sharpness and match conditioning. You can see the players trying hard to find form and second guessing themselves, hence the lack of bravery. I'm skeptical THFC can finish the season strongly.

@bahatig562 Месяц назад

As an Arsenal fan, Ange has been class. I have found myself respecting Spurs slightly because of him. I look at Liverpool with admiration because of Klopp, and Ange carries the same level of Charisma that makes me appreciate even little things like derby day pettiness. If Spurs get rid of him, it would be laughable but the man is certainly class and has them playing in a manner that even I am weary of, dare I say even entertained by. Urgh, that felt horrible to write!

@alexkcchung Месяц назад

Same here, but Ange just made them look so much better than what they are, play a high line and roll the dice

@juz882010 Месяц назад

@@alexkcchung the big problem he has is no tricky wingers... in all his squads he had weapon wingers who scared their defender to the point they wouldnt go forward... he desperately needs that in his team atm. Teams are happy to sit off spurs as they cant score. They arent scared of them.

@calumjunior7748 Месяц назад

Funnily enough it’s the main reason I don’t like Arsenal. Arteta is weird.

@JLaw012 Месяц назад

I agree they are better to Watch, that being said I’m not sure he is tactically inclined enough to be able to push his team to the top. He plays his way and teams are working him out. If he does not change then he will be found out.

@TheWefikus 29 дней назад

Word. If I were Jim Ratcliff, I’d try and poach Ange from Spurs. Even if it costs millions and selling a first born to Levy. And if that offer does come, Ange must take it. Spurs are going to chew him out. Their level of ambition is measured by wanting to stick it to Arsenal. It’s in the DNA. He can’t do anything, and they don’t deserve him.

@jackh3071 Месяц назад

Postocoglou had a much better team in his first season compared to klopp and arteta so it’s not comparable

@USER06584B Месяц назад

was the league in this same state when arteta took over? chelsea in disaray, united as a mess, newcastle unable to build on from what they had last season, brightons collapse, west ham being poor etc. the middle of the table has had sheningans this season, spurs could easily be 9th had some of their opponents been less injury riddled and generally less poor.

@homelessdude5705 Месяц назад

@@USER06584B ??? Arsenal finished 5th, 2 points behind 3rd place Chelsea the season prior to Arteta's arrival.

@USER06584B Месяц назад

@@homelessdude5705 and why did he arrive? were arsenal looking like they were about to have an amazing season? this is legit is first season with a squad mostly of his own desired players, arsenal had done a massive clearout, and the prem was more top heavy back then. look at the state of chelsea, united, and even honestly spurs right now verses spurs back then.

@noname-ju5gn Месяц назад

had klopp had this squad in his first season he is reaching top 3.

@homelessdude5705 Месяц назад

@@noname-ju5gn Sure buddy

@snowman01 Месяц назад

If that game was replayed 10 times, Spurs are winning more than 5 times. If you watched the game, reviewed the stats and xG, there is _no_ _way_ you can say Arsenal weren't lucky and Spurs were unlucky. Credit to Arsenal, I'm just saying quit this basic narrative of "Ange needs another way to attack". Please analyse matches with more depth logic and less about "outcome bad, therefore team bad".

@mavrayne 29 дней назад

lol the copium is exquisite !

@healthymindhealthybody9324 Месяц назад

Impressive discussion, great to hear football discussed in such a cerebral way

@DoFi12 Месяц назад

So..can Ange take them to a place they find themselves every year?

@fonejacker0 Месяц назад

What about last season?

@teamgb1587 Месяц назад

Seb talks all the sense! 7:33 … it’s a process and small pieces added to the puzzle will enable progress

@joeparker6774 Месяц назад

100% agree, seems like the only one that actually watches spurs

@homelessdude5705 Месяц назад

Gotta love how gooners rush to watch videos about Spurs here faster than genuine Spurs supporters do.

@DeanoTHFC 28 дней назад

This was a terrible Chelsea team with 70% of their first team out injured and we hardly laid a glove on them!.. A pathetic performance…. It’s so obvious that the team are now struggling to buy into Ange’s tactics. There’s not creativity in attack, the midfield are nonexistent or tripping over each other because they don’t really know where they should be, and the defensive play it quite literally Sunday league stuff!.. And all this with what is in my humble opinion a good squad of players!.. Especially defenders!.. Ange keeps telling us they don’t have many matches, well why the hell isn’t he working with the team to irradiate the most basic of issues?.. I’m sorry to say and obviously would love to be proven wrong but I feel the Premier League is a stap too far for “Ange-ball”!..

@Ledanielooo Месяц назад

Spurs sympathy session!

@juz882010 Месяц назад

He will need a tricky proper world class winger... maybe the young swede might come through... but he needs a 20 goal striker, needs new FBs, another 6 who good on the ball. He should go for Sancho.

@skim7221 Месяц назад

Ryan mason in charge of set piece; ben davis not remembering saka can only shoot with his left foot; hobjberg trying high risk passes and giving the ball away. We’ve seen those three for too many years. They have given a lot to the team but we need to see new people.

@jonathanwalser8343 Месяц назад

4/15 with his right foot.

@billgray2862 Месяц назад

Ryan Mason does attack set pieces only.

@skim7221 Месяц назад

@@billgray2862 he’s not doing a very good job then

@joeparker6774 Месяц назад

@@skim722111 or 12 scored so far this season from set pieces mate, not that bad is it? Vio, who is held up as a god of attacking set pieces only got 5 or so more than that. Still 5 games to go as well

@billgray2862 Месяц назад

Mile Jedinak works on defensive set pieces amongst other things.

@danogunner Месяц назад

As an arsenal fan, this is the first spurs coach that I like. They’re lucky to have him. He’ll get them up again

@USER06584B Месяц назад

you didn't like harry redknapp? for selfish reasnons AVB is one of my favorite spurs managers... absolute banter era for spurs.

@zavtradnem Месяц назад

3:0 of course you like him.

@danogunner Месяц назад

@@zavtradnem I like that he doesn’t make excuses. He acknowledges where his team and he failed and he praises where the opposition outclassed them EVEN though he could easily have pointed to both the offside VAR and possible pen issues as excuse (see Ten Hag as exhibit A - that mofo is STILL talking about Garnacho SA’s offside goal against arsenal 😂 what a noob)

@TheLizardKingC Месяц назад

He's not actually lamenting about Romero's red card against Chelsea right?

@Minyvan66 29 дней назад

With time Ange’s Spurs will come good.

@careyfreeman5056 Месяц назад

Here's a better question: what if we come out if the Chelsea match with a draw or close loss but NO injuries and suspensions? THAT'S what killed the momentum, not outsized expectations.

@threadboi2300 Месяц назад

I don't know, but you know what? You should keep having the exact same discussion every month.

@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418 Месяц назад

Its not that Spurs are too structured and need mavericks, its that they only have ONE structure. You're blaming the players for not being spontaneous like your Center back recing to be a striker, leaving a massive hole in your back line isnt a a good thing and could've gone horribly wrong. There's no helping spurs fans honestly

@Fpl8646 Месяц назад

Tottenham fans peak achievement since birth, is hate watching Arsenal. Must be cold in that trophy room

@zavtradnem Месяц назад

oh so you're a trophy fan. must be american burger boy.

@kingofdogshite4163 Месяц назад

So Villa who don’t have FFP issues would sell one of their better players to a team that will probably finish below them? Very hit and miss with the analysis at times. So contradictory.

@USER06584B Месяц назад

have you noticed their spurs bias. it makes no sense. they are convinced by the ange project in a few games, with arsenal and arteta even last season they didnt believe it, even as this season started they were so quick to dismiss arsenal until like february. its very bizzare. even their analysis on united is very like eh, i find united fans are actually more insightful, or just watching the games.

@zavtradnem Месяц назад

Unlucky yesterday but we surely on downward spiral with big Ange. His limitations are becoming too obvious.

@tzetv Месяц назад

Myopic

@DidYaServe Месяц назад

Lo Celso is a bizarre one. He's potentially world class but he needs to be backed.

@markbranigan Месяц назад

A bit of a silly tagline. Spurs are already "contenders" for 4th place. Whether they finish there or not does not change that fact

@thegreenfingers6766 Месяц назад

I DONT THINK SO AS LONG AS THEIR PRIORITY TARGET IS "ARSENAL". OTHER TARGET IS ONLY SECONDARY

@Untold-Football Месяц назад

Can you please ask Jack if Arsenal are back?😅

@gtr5973 Месяц назад

They are literally contending for top four already.

@RandySnortin Месяц назад

There not really they blew it

@Ryan-ys2bq Месяц назад

@@RandySnortin7 points off 2 games in hand… unlikely but if win all but 1 they probably get it as Villa will drop points

@skim7221 Месяц назад

Son, maddison, bissouma needs to watch and play like romero.

@zavtradnem Месяц назад

maddison cant even play like madders

@noname-ju5gn Месяц назад

Stop comparing klopp first season which wasn't even first full season as he joined in november. liverpool squad was very poor compared to current spurs and we had european football which they reached final of. ange had full week rests for last 6 months

@simisuperstar4794 Месяц назад

8:00 (in the voice of Brian Clough) "Young man, Arteta won a trophy in his first season whilst the spud won nowt"😂

@Patrick-li7yl Месяц назад

Ange is so overrated out of both cups in first round and has no plan b

@USER06584B Месяц назад

not to mention that spurs havent been too great since like november.

@Patrick-li7yl Месяц назад

If we had beat Burnley only would have 4 points off them and were shit🤣🤣🤣

@tomeggleston367 Месяц назад

Amazing how much criticism Ange is getting…don’t forget Klopp or Arteta’s first EPL position. We lost Kane ffs, have a new GK, new defence and new midfield, and we are already competing for top 4, despite the video’s title… Klopp, Arteta & Pep have ALL benefited from having their own system and tactics developed over time (and persisted with!). Yet we lose and the media shouts our system is broken and we need a plan B 🤦🏻‍♂️

@stephenphilipps3360 Месяц назад

True it took Klopp a little bit and as an Aussie myself Ill back Ange for u guys, "mate" aha. Sorry stuck in the mind saying "mate" ehe

@user-Griezman Месяц назад

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@hnaku8748 Месяц назад

Title should be can he make them top 4 regulars. They've been contenders this season.

@Mark-99999 Месяц назад

Doesn’t matter what competition your jt did when they had a chance

@sah8956 29 дней назад

I don’t any spurs fans that want to win against Man City unless Arsenal have already bottled the title.

@Ryan-ys2bq Месяц назад

You mean the team that is 5th with 2 games in hand, that was in pole position for 3rd last year until the Conte drama started and finished top 4 the previous season…. Of course they are as Ange is god or the 2nd coming of Pep according to the pundits on the Athletic this season, if they aren’t then Ange isn’t that great…

@Thebearmre7 Месяц назад

Vio only did attacking set pieces by the way not defensive. Mila sucks at his o job he is one dealing with defensive cost us maybe 10 points we 3rd worst in league

@jmmeares Месяц назад

I emplore any one to find a Spurs fan who wants to make a "statement" win against City. The whole crowd will applaud City goals if it keeps Gooners from the title.

@jayLo28829 Месяц назад

Don’t get the narrative that spurs were unlucky. Arsenal literally gifted all their goals, and had more chances to score. Romero hit the post. That’s it.

@jmo4952 Месяц назад

Yeah Romero missed 2 free headers, a goal narrowly ruled out and a possible pen all in the first half. That's as many chances as Arsenal had in the whole game, they simply took their chances.

@Taecoconut Месяц назад

Tottenham also gifted Arsenal 2 goals as well

@craigosborne3260 28 дней назад

Not a chance of now Watch out as you could be dropped down to 6th or lower Come on Aston Villa

@WaniZame Месяц назад

It’s not better than Klopps first full season. Klopp came to a team in mid-table in late October, it’s not comparable stop peddling this fake narrative. Arsenal fans did it with Arteta and now you are doing it with Ange.

@Elite_Alpha_Male Месяц назад

Wait, spurs unlucky? No. Their goal was offside, and Kulu knew he wouldn't get the penalty. Spurs first on target was our error to their goal. We deserved to win, 3-0 first half, and errors were gifted.

@lukingforabettername8248 Месяц назад

High Line 4 Life Mate

@knutjonsson1816 Месяц назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@00dude3 Месяц назад

The mental gymnastics going on to say spurs were the better team is insane. They scored a penalty and a goalkeeping error ffs

@Amberle73 Месяц назад

Media darlings. Always have been, always will be. Probably because they're back to being entertaining without anyone being even slightly worried they might actually win something 😂

@USER06584B Месяц назад

all the videos they had about the NLD have been framed around spurs, even the one they released before the game. idk if spurs is paying the athletic or what. and also its often clear they dont watch a lot of the teams they may often talk about. i remember they were talking about johnson as if he isnt all that good which is absurd, especially given his age, and his numbers aren't too bad, especially considering the way they have changed around their frontline throughout the season.

@robbob1436 Месяц назад

HaHAha - good 1!!

@muhammadmurtaza6630 Месяц назад

SEB!!!!!!

@ijl-cy9pp Месяц назад

Spurs thinking they're signing Jacob Ramsey and or Connor Gallagher 😂😂

@joshconroy8268 Месяц назад

How have they glossed over the refereeing in this game so quickly, was a farce

@jaxyjoe Месяц назад

Nice to see them doing an equivalent pod for the team actually in 4th… oh wait. Big 6 bias yet again. Sort it out Athletic. Be better.

@dharris-rd2md Месяц назад

Bit insecure mate just enjoy ucl. Plenty of talk about villa if you look for it

@MindSurf248 Месяц назад

Bot drom Athletic, last pod discussing Villa was 50 minutes of them saying we had no chance against Arsenal. Then never to mention us again, even when discussing how Arsenal's chances were at risk of been derailed by the result @dharris-rd2md

@Amberle73 Месяц назад

@@dharris-rd2md He's right though, if any team outside the top 3 deserves a ton of praise this season, it's Villa all day every day over Spurs.

@dharris-rd2md Месяц назад

@@Amberle73 This wasn’t really praising spurs and there’s plenty out there bigging up villa. Either way, it’s still insecure to whine about it under a spurs video.

@Mark-99999 Месяц назад

Spurs had 2 weeks off!! Arsenal are miles and miles ahead of Spurs

@phillyflyboxing Месяц назад

Answer: NO THE END...

@Gunnercoops Месяц назад

Only top 4 I thought all the pundits feel he’ll win the premier league for them 😂😂😂

@NinjaBobPlays Месяц назад

He already has. What even is this?

@-VForValhalla- Месяц назад

‘Lads, it’s Tottenham’

@jamesmccreery250 Месяц назад

Will spurs lose to Man city on purpose?

@pauricmurphy5698 Месяц назад

All Spurs did yesterday was huff and puff 😮 got gifted 2 goals and only in the last 5 mins did they try 😮

@homelessdude5705 Месяц назад

What about Arsenal? One lucky own goal due to Højbjerg being thrown off balance by Tomiyasu and Saka's goal resulted directly from a Michael Oliver brainfart.